#this man gives me a headache

[umblrspectrum]

i love the craps

[ghostingcrows]

Okay because generally I’ve been seeing a lot of fighting a weirdness I wanted to talk about this for a second

Hobie Brown is not an adult

Please stop being weird about him!!

More explanations under the cut

I’ve been complaining about this a lot and for people that don’t understand this situation essentially in an interview one of the directors said that an early concept of Hobie design was that he was supposed to be like the cooler older kid and as the example used for this he stated the ages 19/20

Because of this many people took it as still being canon which has led to a large bit of debate in the community between people about his age

The people who have taken this reference to the early concept as canon have started bashing people who ship Hobie with others in the group (mainly Miles and Pav which is important and which I will come back to later) as well as used this as an excuse to sexualize Hobie because hes an adult

A barely legal one which even if this was true is its own separate issue

However the issue with this specific take is that its wrong

For a variety of reasons

1) For starters people say that since the director said he was 19/20 it must be true however another director/creator of the film has stated that Hobies age is up for interpretation meaning he doesn’t have a specific set age

However, it is very clear based off of everything else that Hobie was still meant to be in the teenager range in terms of age 

For starters the actual movie

Throughout the first half of the movie Hobie is referred to a couple times by both Gwen and Pav and later Miles

Every time he is talked about in this context it is always with the undertoned implication of him and Gwen supposedly having a romantic relationship with both Pav and Gwen treating it as a sort of thing that could potentially cause friction or other issues in regards to Miles and Gwens relationship

If Hobie really were 19/20 this would be, cannot stress this enough, incredibly weird and creepy on the writers part

Unlike Hobie Gwen does have a confirmed age and she IS a minor and the movie imply that she had a relationship with Hobie whether she actual did or not and treating it as a joke would be weird and out of place if he was an adult

Not to mention that a lot of people referred to Gwen, Hobie and Miles dynamic as a love triangle which again weird and gross and uncalled for if Hobie was an adult

2) The art books both in the english and Japanese translation refer to Hobie in a way that either implies hes a kid or outright uses terms that mean hes a child

In the English translation of the book Hobie is referred to as the cool slightly older boy the girls want to date

Meanwhile the Japanese translation literally spells it out

3) I’ve heard a variety of different deflect in regards to all the above mentioned stuff

“Hobie doesn’t look like a kid” people age differently. I’ve met kids in high school who were the same age as or younger than me with full ass beards and mustaches as well as people who are well into there 20 who look like they’re still 15 he simply just has a structured face

“He was bit at 16 in the comics and said he was spider-man for 3 years in the movie” We aren’t in the comics universe though and in this iteration Miles was bit at like 13 and Gwen at like 14 meaning that in actuality the kids are usually bitten really damn early and the actual facts are that we don’t know how old he was when he was bitten and since we very clearly aren’t in the comic universe as these movies are significantly different from the comics you can’t just go off of that

“Just because it was a concept doesn’t mean it was changed it could still have been kept” While it is true that yes sometimes things from first draft concepts are kept a lot of times they aren’t such as Hobies best friend Pavitr who was supposed to be 13 in his concept but very clearly isn’t in the movie (I don’t actually have solid evidence for that claim I just think it would be weird that they make comments about Pavs body and show him shirtless if he was still 13 in the final-) both Pav and Hobie had a shit ton of changes done to them  alongside basically all of the main 4 (Hobie, Pavitr, Gwen and Miles), except for maybe Miles but he was already an established character, so using his concept as hard and fast evidence when he very clearly was changed a lot and everything else points toward him being a kid just doesn’t work

“He mentions going to a pub so he has to be at least 21” first Hobie is British and the legal age in Britain is 18 also you don’t have to be of legal drinking age to go into a pub you just have to be old enough to actual order drinks which doesn’t even account for the fact that this is also Hobie we’re talking about who would not give the slightest fucks about the legal drinking age “But they show him with a beer in his montage and they wouldn’t encourage that in an underage character” Hobies montage is so fast paced and colorful that I genuinely don’t even know if thats true because you can barely comprehend the stuff that happens in that scene the first time you see it and not to mention that he also flips off the cops in that montage so I don’t really think they were too concerned about encouraging certain behaviors or not since half of Hobies speech in that scene was about overthrowing governments saying ACAB

So in conclusion

Hobie doesn’t have a confirmed age but based off off all the information we are given he is probably actually closer to 16/17 as his age

Now as a side tangent something else I want to address is the inherent homophobia and racism undertones that came with the initial spreading of his false age

Because when people initially heard that age they’re first instinct wasn’t to jump at the actual movie for imply a ship with Hobie and Gwen or even on the people make jokes about but was instead to jump on the people shipping Hobie with Pav and Miles

Both other male characters who are also characters of color

Odd that the first though was the (honestly at that time) relatively new and unpopular gay poc ships (Yes I know the ships are more popular now they had BARELY any content at the time of the interview)

Like genuinely the absolute giddy JOY I saw some people have at the idea that people who were minding their own business would have had a ship they liked ruined for them was insane and still is to me

[capn-twitchery]

it will never stop killing me how many characters dislike grace right off the bat & not even when he's working with the constables or the navy

he literally does Nothing and people are instantly like "fuck that guy actually." help. please he's just A Regular Guy (with really bad luck and unlikeable vibes apparently)

[bellamygate]

NO ACTUALLY PHEE SURELY DRUGGED JIN ON PURPOSE W THAT WATER BOTTLE

[edgepunk]

Sleepy baby.

[aimseytv]

the funny thing about doing minecraft lore with your best friend is how i just spent an hour screaming at guqqie and now we are just in the kitchen eating noodles and watching tv

[rhythm-of-space]

Why can't people just be normal

[ventiswampwater]

this is the funniest image to me I love it so much

edit: oh and THIS one too lmao good lord:

[creamiceandsugar]

sss class revival hunter is that doctor who episode where he goes "just this once, everybody lives" and i cry but then Also it's not that everyone lives all the time, it turns out, it's just that we are making the most satisfying ending. kim gongja went back in time a bunch of years and he remembers how miserable everything was and he said "right we're doing None of that and im not gonna be cool at all i really am just fixing things" it's a fix it fic of a story you dont know and it's making me so feral

like bro?? sir?? this was a philosophical debate on how to view the world, on how to approach making it better. this is where "starving children waiting for the sun" came from too i had to take breaks in between speech bubbles bc i was so overwhelmed i didnt expect this from a stupid action story!

like bro, bro we're past "are monsters evil and do we need to kill them or are they alive and have emotions" we're Past it we're talking about whether you should strive to fix the world out of anger at all the injustices, or because you have experienced happiness and see how beautiful the world Can be if you fix it im Losing it

[sophiethewitch1]

hey... when's part 6 of that Isekai batfam tfic ? 😞

When I can think through the constant crippling pain I'm in. Hope this helps!

[kulliare]

yippeeee the dices

[hostilecityshowdown]

the undertaker vs allan reynolds. broadcast on wrestling challenge, january 8th, 1991

[carmenpeach]

my meds still get sent to where i used 2 live and its like 5 hours away and i have until the 30th to get them so lets hope i can make it over by then -_-*

[jazz-kity]

is there anyway to make rejuv less like...... bright

[demonologistfucker]

Im double triple ducked with these coming hsr updates

Adventurine, loucha, boothill and Sunday eventually?? I’m-

I got one guarantee

But I would

Would Love supports so I don’t have to rely on the squeaky voices to keep my team alive

[jay-s-antics]

"Welcome to Nighbringer, with your new and improved DDD!"

Sir, I think technology isn't supposed to improve backwards.

In this week's episode of the writers messing up the timeline I present to you:

Levi being a human world anime fanatic back during his time in the Celestial realm, despite that being THOUSANDS of years ago (let's see what NB does with this);

The Dating Sim states that RAD was around before the Great Celestial War, however, NB retconned that;

Belphie loving human circuses as an angel. You know, THOUSANDS of years ago.

Is no one overseeing this? Feels like a school assignment that 6 different people worked on independently. Here's to hoping NB doesn't get the season 4 treatment at least!