#ttpd (song)

[walkscornelia]

“at dinner you take my ring off my middle finger and put it on the one people put wedding rings on and that's the closest i've come to my heart exploding” made me feel lots of things

[allamericanb-tch]

unpopular opinion (?) the clean version of the tortured poets department (song) is better than the explicit version

[evermoredeluxe]

Okay so when I first heard the Charlie Puth line, I thought it meant that Charlie should be a bigger artist THAN both of them not that he should be a bigger artist, period. And I feel as though the first interpretation is more in line with the self-aware track that TTPD is. We’re not Dylan Thomas or Patti Smith, we simply aren’t that good so maybe Charlie puth should be bigger than us both.

Does that make sense

hm i don’t see it that way. not to disrespect charlie puth, but i honestly think that lyric is said in a “you were high and eating seven bars of chocolate, we were doing dumb shit and talking dumb shit, and we said charlie puth should be a bigger artist” it’s like when you’re being silly with someone.

also, the very next lyrics are about her scratching his head and he falls asleep, and she then talks about what happens when he is awake. his head is killing him, he isn’t high anymore and he feels dreadful and mentally not-well. and then she’s like “i chose this cyclone with you.” so i take the whole verse as “im with you in the fun times and the tough times,” esp cause the chorus is all about “you’re gonna find no one like me, no one will understand you like i do, and vice versa. we’re crazy together.”

as for the dylan thomas & patti smith line, i take that as her tryna be funny, and also say that their relationship is not an iconic one for everyone to romanticize. “we’re modern idiots,” as in they’re dumb for choosing each other, but they don’t care because no one else is gonna hold and understand him like she does, and no one’s gonna hold and understand her like he does.

the whole song is about committing to each other from accepting self-sabotaging, drug use, mental health issues, dying if the other leaves, and promising marriage (even though she knows they’re being crazy).

[thetorturedpoetheadquarters]

The Tortured Poets Department Song Title Analysis

Similar Lyrics:

“Back when you fit my poems like a perfect rhyme” - Holy Ground

“Take me to the lakes where all the poets went to die” - The Lakes

“On the way home, I wrote a poem, you say, “what a mind,” this happens all the time” - Sweet Nothing (which Joe wrote with her apparently)

The title “The Tortured Poets Department” is seen as a reference to a group chat Joe Alwyn was in with some of his co-stars called “The Tortured Man Club” - which was revealed to exist in a Variety interview of him and Paul Mescal that came out December 15, 2022.

A source talked to The Daily Mail (which is believed to be the news source that Joe’s PR team talks to) and discussed how Taylor felt about it.

"It’s undeniable that the name of her upcoming album is in reference to Joe’s WhatsApp group chat. Taylor knocked him for the name of this when they were together. She didn’t want people to think that it had anything to do with her, so when he spoke out about it, she was, of course, bothered."

Apparently, Joe also had a Soundcloud account where he read poetry. It dates back to a little bit before him and Taylor met. However, knowing Taylor this fact most likely helped him in winning her over.

Often accidentally called the Dead Poets Society which is a movie that came out in 1989 and stars Robin Williams.

Synopsis: Maverick teacher John Keating returns in 1959 to the prestigious New England boys' boarding school where he was once a star student, using poetry to embolden his pupils to new heights of self-expression.

Taylor does have serious ties with New England, mentioning Rhode Island in The Last Great American Dynasty due to Holiday House residing there - which is Taylor’s Rhode Island Home. She has been residing in Rhode Island since 2013 and it's where she holds her well-known Fourth of July parties.

It's also giving, "I'm standing in a 1950s gymnasium," from Suburban Legends.

[junesuckerfamefucker]

me when i find a new fictional character to obsess over

[fearlessandless]

So I've been thinking a lot about "I chose this cyclone with you." Specifically, about "chose" rather than "choose"

Lyrically, it sounds better because of the assonance of the long O with cyclone.

SEMANTICALLY, it means this is a choice she's made in the past. She's here in the cyclone because she chose it once and she lives here now. Maybe not stuck, exactly, but who else is going to hold him like her? Where else is she going to go? She chose this cyclone, she doesn't get to go somewhere else now.

[messytop-lipkiss]

The title song is my least favorite 💀

[notapoetbutstilltortured]

I’ve seen so many people have ‘hot takes’ about the lyrics from the second verse of TTPD but I honestly feel like in the context they’re pretty clever. To me they sound like something you would hear on a 1975 album which when we consider who she’s talking about it adds another level of humour to it all.

obviously we can all interpret the meanings in these songs differently but this is just something that struck me when first listening to the song.

[wouldvebeensweet]

just wait til u guys find out charlie puth's middle name is otto

[swirlingyouintomypoems]

Fam she uses a typewriter am I cooked

[walkscornelia]

so that was the best album ever

[taylor-on-your-dash]

fave lyrics today?

"who else decodes you?"

I don't particularly like TTPD the song, but there's something intimate about this rhetorical question: nobody else decodes him, only Taylor does. they're in their world, a world that only them understands because they're crazy

[idkmybffjillyy]

title track has me SHOOK

[thetorturedpoetheadquarters]

Down Bad Title Analysis

Definition: in a bad state or condition - such as 1. a feeling or marked by strong and usually unrequited feelings of attraction, desire, or infatuation 2. Depressed, despondent 3. Badly ill or injured

“You’ll see me in hindsight, tangled up with you all night, burning it down” - Wildest Dreams

Taylor has many songs with the word "bad" in them. So for the sake of the length of this post, I will only put the most relevant lyrics for TTPD (but click this if you want to read all of them.)

"Mr. Insincere apology so he doesn't look like the bad guy" - Mr. Perfectly Fine

"I want you bad but it's come down to nothing" - Bye Bye Baby

"You said there was nothing in the world that could stop it, I had a bad feeling / I knew there was no one in the world who could take it, I had a bad feeling" - Dancing With Our Hands Tied

"Bad bad boy, shiny toy with a price, you know that I bought it" - Cruel Summer

"Gave up on me like I was a bad drug, now I'm searching for signs in a haunted club" - Death By A Thousand Cuts

"Half-moon eyes, bad surprise, did you realize, out of time" - Question...?

"You did some bad things but I'm the worst of them" - Vigilante Shit

"Storm coming, good husband, bad omen" - High Infidelity

Other songs with the word bad: Picture To Burn, Sparks Fly, Superman, Electric Touch, When Emma Falls In Love, 22, Blank Space, Wildest Dreams, This Love, I Know Places, Bad Blood, End Game, The Man, Miss Americana And The Heartbreak Prince, Soon You'll Get Better, The Last Great American Dynasty, Invisible String, 'Tis The Damn Season, Long Story Short, Evermore, Only The Young

Taylor has an unreleased song titled Down Came the Rain that was recorded by Deric Ruttan. The song discusses a relationship that Taylor thought was going well, but actually wasn’t. It ended up with her getting broken up with and her partner moving on quickly while she was struggling to.

With all this information, I don't believe this Down Bad is going to be anything like "down bad" means on the internet. I don't think it's going to be sexual unless it's unrequited sexual attraction or her being more attracted to him than he is to her (a theme barely touched upon in Snow On The Beach). My theory (which can easily be wrong) is that this will be a song where she's realizing her partner is falling out of love with her while she is not. So, she would be down bad for him but he would be mildly interested at most.

[imgonnagetyoubackk]

florida being the closing night song IN LONDON because IVE GOT SOME REGRETS SO TAKE ME TO FLORIDA and florida is the next show….. oh taylor swift you are THE MASTERMIND

[kingofmyborrowedheart]

The thing that is striking me the most about this album is just how messy and human it is. She’s not holding anything back or trying to appear one way or another. She’s just letting it all out regardless of what anyone might say. She found that trying to be polished and keep all the ugly, imperfect, human stuff in to be stifling and just said fuck it I need to do this for me. This album was an exorcism for her.