#vanitymoth

[animal-lord24]

I don't like that YouTube recommends his videos to me, dude always has like the worst take and interpretation of the show

[wayward-delver]

I'd say let's agree to disagree, but insulting our intelligence/taste for liking it AND endorsing hatred to the fanbase is so uncalled for.

(I can respect your takes, even if I disagree with most of them, but why are you making it personal?)

[lovely-cherubs]

Dear Vanitymoth,

Do yourself and favor and keep Murder Drones, the fandom, Uzi, V, and N's name out your mouth. As of now, your takes and opinions regarding the show and its characters have been awful to the point where my brain was making toast in the bathtub.

Let's not also forget that you're HEAVILY biased towards J and most of your videos are spent complaining about her and not about the topic of of the video to begin with. If I didn't know any better, I'd assume you got Chatgpt or even that toxic waste of metal herself to write your scripts. In case you didn't realize it, your ideal vision of what Murder Drones should be is NOT what Liam wants. Liam is an actual writer and Murder Drones is more than just being "edgy and dark".

Your misogyny towards Uzi and mischaracterization of N is ridiculous and lets me know that you didn't actually watch the show. N doesn't have an "obsessive savior complex". If he did, he'd have an inflated ego, something that he DOESN'T have.

Let's not also forget how you said that N and Cyn were a ROMANTIC COUPLE?! Sweet home Alabama! (I know that incest is illegal in Alabama, but I had to use that phrase for this situation). You're a perfect example of one who lacks media literacy and neurons in this fandom and I really hope we don't have more reviewers who are just as bad as you.

Your entire points lead to "if this show doesn't meet MY expectations, then it's bad.", which if you also didn't know, ISN'T a good mentality for a reviewer. Sincerely, please stop making reviews on this show if you don't have any ACTUAL good points. And this also applies for TADC, Hazbin Hotel, etc.

Signed, lovely-cherubs

[dorkynerd23]

Ah, he never changes..Vanitymoth is back with another shitty review and this video proves he truly doesn't understand or gets Murder Drones as a whole, say whatever you want about the finale as I've had a few issues about the finale myself and think it could've been a bit better but it was at least satisfying and entertaining. I'm not even surprised by this (in the slightest) since as I've said in my post about Vanitymoth, he's almost never positive about whatever he reviews, he barely has ANYTHING positive and praise to give when it comes to the pieces of media he reviews even though there are things you can praise but Vanity choices not to, it just feels like he has very high standards and if they don't meet up to his expectations then he just sees them as bad overall and sees his opinions as definite facts everyone should take to heart and listen to, this dude is just insufferable both to listen to and watch.

He also hearted this comment here...As someone who's in both communities I personally don't think the MD community is as awful and terrible as the Helluvaverse community can be, tbh. Yes, the MD fanbase has shown to be terrible and awful but that's all fandoms, all fandoms are toxic and terrible no matter how big and small, and just for the record the MD fanbase has been called out before by many people. And one more thing, although all fandoms are toxic, there's also good aspects to them as well too. There are good aspects to the Murder Drones fandoms as I've met and see many incredible people in there, despite its bad aspects in the fanbase it's still a fine enough fanbase with some bad and good apples but again, no fandom is perfect and you'll always have good and apples no matter what fandoms you're apart of.

But I'm overall tired of Vanitymoth and can't stand him for the life of me, he's very unbearable as a cartoon reviewer and just doesn't understand MD, this comment says a lot honestly and I personally don't think he's truly ever cared about the show because he gets so much wrong about this series and these characters and overall gets them wrong and mischaracterizes them to make them look worse as a result and to fit his own narrative and shitty theories.

Listen, if y'all want someone, a YouTuber who ACTUALLY understands and gets Murder Drones, actually understands the characters and gets everything right about the show and the theme of it itself, if y'all wanna watch a reviewer who gets MD, please go watch Sarcastic Chorus. Although I don't always agree with his opinions, he's always valid and positive with his opinions even when seeing the flaws in whatever he reviews, he's a great and much better YouTuber than Vanity. And just like @wayward-delver said when it comes to Sarcastic Chorus, SC genuinely understands how the show was meant to be understood and watched, he sees the hard work, love and dedication that went into the show and he's also able to point out flaws without being a dick and shooting down the fans of the show.

[bigtittiecomitte]

WHY IS VANITYMOTH BACK???

“The slow and sad death of the Murder Drones fandom ☹️😭🕊”

WE’RE STILL ALIVE GO BACK IN YOUR ICECUBE

[red-mage28]

“Uzi would hate N after finding out he killed Nori” believers need to watch the show again. Cause like

No the hell she wouldn’t???

Could’ve easily blamed V or J in episode two, but instead she blamed humans as that was the working theory for “who sent the disassemblers”.

Told Doll to fuck off when she mentioned “not being the only one who’s lost parents to the Murder Drones” in episode three

Hell, episode one, she’s standing in front of one of her mom’s potential killers and what does she do? She tells him “wow you’re getting mistreated also you were sent here to clean up the human’s mess and die. That’s fucked up, join my rebelion”

If anything, Uzi’d be trying to reassure N that it wasn’t really his fault and shift the blame to the solver (or JCJ, she still doesn’t seem to like humans)

[whimsimarion]

Have you ever seen a video on YouTube where you wanted to pause it almost every second and write a well-thought analysis in the comment sections about how wrong the speaker is on so many levels?

Happened to me with this:

I also found an interesting discourse on The Hazbin Hotel Wiki site regarding said video and pointing out the many flaws in its argument. Thank you so much, Lazy Skeptic!

If Adam just wanted to "set souls free" he could turn the Heaven embassy into a euthanasia clinic, instead of having a bunch of sadists fly around skewering people as they cry and flee. Or he could actually police Hell, and target tyrannical rulers.

"Historically what real life exorcists do is vanquish souls that are misguided or can't find peace. Exorcists historically don't vanquish souls out of malicious intent they do what they do to help souls find peace."

This is an extremely confusing description. Exorcists exorcise, drive away demons out of individuals or objects believed to be possessed. Demons being assumed to be malicious beings that must be banished back to Hell. They don't "help souls find peace", if the souls we're talking about are the demons they exorcise, they're supposed to be helping the person they're supposedly driving the demon out of. Which is nice if you assume they're right about all their beliefs, but even then, the doctrine usually says that banished demons go back to Hell, they don't die, and it has the obvious benefit of freeing the person who is supposedly possessed by a demon.

The exorcists in Hazbin are just called such due to the loose connection of them being related to removing demons, but they're not removing demons from possessed people, and they're not just banishing them, they're hunting and killing demons. I've never heard anyone argue that exorcisms are done out of a benevolent tough-love attitude towards the demon being exorcised, trying to make this connection is nonsensical.

He goes back to some arguments about how population-culling is probably good actually. We learned that the last extermination killed 16% of Hell's population, being an especially harsh one, that's not just stabilizing a growing population, that's shrinking it. Besides, it seems to be the case that more powerful Overlords have more access to shelters, and so the extermination probably does at least as much to kill those who might challenge established power, as it does to kill those currently in power.

He question if Angel's improvements "balance out a lifetime of sins" is pretty uninteresting to me, having a morality that is not at least primarily based around constructive thinking is - dare I say - just immoral in of itself. A person's past primarily matters in so far that it informs what to believe about their present and their future. The idea that there needs to be "balance" is more of a retributive emotional impulse, which should have a limited influence on your judgement, limited retributive punishments can have a positive symbolic significance, but punishments should mainly be restorative, deterring, incapacitating, and rehabilitating.

We don't know how divine judgement works in this setting. The idea that people could trick their way into Heaven through Charlie's program is questionable. Then again, Adam made it to Heaven, so divine judgement can't be all that great. We just don't know how a Hell-to-Heaven admission program would work.

As for the defense of the misogyny, or at least trying to put some nicer spins on his history, this overly charitable towards Adam. Adam lost his first wife because he wanted to control her, and literally had a new wife made for him. Sure, that may have been necessary to facilitate that the creation of mankind could proceed, but it's not exactly hard to see how having a new person made to be your wife could reinforce a sense of entitlement to women. It's at least as likely that his misogyny started kicking into full gear before or when he got Eve as a wife, than it happening after he lost Eve.

Now he says that maybe the story is lying, and Lilith didn't leave because Adam wanted to control her. Ok, maybe, but it's not like Adam as we see him give us reason to doubt this account, he's constantly acting like a cruel narcissist who all his bad behaviors enabled by the people of Heaven.

Judging Lilith at this point is pointless, she's said to be one of the most mysterious characters in the show, there's no reason to pretend to know her motives at this point.

Adam didn't become a celebrity in Heaven "against all odds", it's made devastatingly clear that he's a douchebag who has been surfing the clout of his honorary creation, and gets away with stuff that others don't. That's the opposite of getting something against all odds.

And what the fuck does he mean that despite everything Adam went through he didn't let it define him? This video is literally him coming up with endless speculation on why the things he went through made him who he is, and making excuses for it.

"All of the exterminators are female because of the love and admiration he was deprived of."

This take is just weird. Honestly, at this point, this guy, the youtuber is giving me bad vibes, I'm calling it, this guy is t least a little bit of a creep. Don't trust a person who will just weave some vague prettyfying bullshit description of something that is an obvious bad sign. If he can make some flowery description to cover up bad stuff for Adam, he can and probably does do so for himself when it suits him.

We don't know if the exorcists are made for Adam, or recruited. If they're recruited, we don't even know it's voluntary, since he apparently gets to rename them, which Vaggie did not like. Or it could be that he has so much clout he can have an army of custom-made people made to be his ass-kissing crew, it might even be the case that the exorcists are his wife harem, that the angels just kept making new wives for him, as they had before. Either additively, or that by him successively finding excuses to ask for a new wife, while still keeping the old ones around to be what appears to be his cult and unofficial harem. I know that might sound like I have an overly salacious imagination on the matter, but it honestly strikes me as being kind of probable, for what that's worth, given everything we've seen. Adam isn't exactly celibate, and the exorcists seem to adore him, you don't have to that horny to at least wonder what he sees them as good for when they're not killing demons for him.

Having a posse of uniformly dressed ass-kissers sorted by gender is a pretty bad sign, it's the kind of thing that is usually associated with possessive sexually abusive cult-leaders IRL. If we are to assume the thing in the pilot about Vaggie kind of hating men is true, Adam might be the reason for it.

Just today I made a post pointing out that Vaggie spared Lute's life, but looked overjoyed when she saw Niffty stab Adam after he had already been spared. It's not hard to come away with the impression she has some reason to despise him.

[p0rk-guts]

This video almost perfectly encapsulates my opinions on episode 8

[veelzebub-the-dingus]

I like Jessa because it opens up new ways to explore J’s character and why she could’ve chosen the side she chose in the finale (also her “she tricked me too” line) but NAH the only reason that people like it is because it’s gay.

The only thing Jessa has going for it is the fact it's gay.

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[corpsicle-1]

Knockout!

Commission for vanitymoth

[animal-lord24]

No youtube, I don't want his opinion about the streaming licensing,

Terrible thumbnail design too, looks like a 5 minute slapjob in photoshop with pngs

[dragons-hoard-of-fandoms]

My only concern about Gaslight District is that the comments section of every episode and replies of every Twitter/BlueSky announcement are gonna be filled with Gen Alpha iPad kids asking what happened to Digital Circus and when's the next episode of Digital Circus and if they cancelled Digital Circus and have they asked what happened to Digital Circus yet.

Well, that and whatever braindead balderdash Vanitymoth is gonna pull out of his backside to justify why he has such a visceral hatred of it for no actual reason.

[lovely-cherubs]

Yeah, I said it once and I'll say it again: I really don’t like vanitymoth and his so-called "opinions". There’s a reason why I don’t watch his videos. In fact when I tried to watch his videos, I ended up leaving like after a couple minutes into them.

Am I the only one who thinks that a good portion of the murder drones fandom lacks media literacy? Like some of these takes and opinions seriously make my head hurt. From people saying things like "N is obsessed with Uzi and vice versa" to "N had no character development" and even "Uzi ruined N's character", I'm seriously starting to believe that either people didn't actually watch the show or they watched something completely different.

[dorkynerd23]

My Problem With Vanitymoth/My Thoughts.

Hello guys!! Hope you're all doing good and well and you've been having a good and wonderful day/night. Now, this will sorta be a mixture of a critical/rant post, as this is someone I've been wanting to talk about as they're someone who's been criticized and talked about (mostly negatively) In regardless to the Murder Drones Community and I wanted to give my thoughts and opinions on this dude, as I don't think he's a very good cartoon reviewer but before I start PLEASE DON'T SEND ANY HATE!! This isn't meant for me to bash and send hate towards this dude, please don't do that shit as it's not worth it and doesn't make you any better, I just wanted to give my thoughts and criticisms about Vanity and his content, your allowed to critique him but don't send any hate. Anyways, the one I'm gonna be talking about is Vanitymoth and if you're not familiar and haven't heard of him, Vanity is basically a cartoon reviewer with about 12.8K subscribers and his first video which was uploaded back in 2022 (around the same year his channel was created) and was about Panty And Stocking and his channel wasn't as popular when he first started out and I discovered him around this time and thought his videos were decent and fine enough at the time, especially as he had a small following around the time but I honestly think it wasn't until he made his first MD video is when he really started to get more popular and I subscribed to him once he started making MD reviews as I was a huge fan around the time.

In the beginning I thought Vanity was a fine and decent enough reviewer and he seemed valid and gave some interesting points in his videos, but I started to notice some changes once he started putting out some more negative videos with one of the ones being his trashfire of a review on Lackadaisy and most of the time for his review he's just complaining and nitpicking as some stuff, (even though I do think in some aspects he can be valid) being negative most of the time, the only thing he really praises in Lackadaisy is the animation but doesn't bother really giving any more positive thoughts even though there is so much to adore and love about Lackadaisy, even if you aren't 100% familiar with the source material I think you'd still be able to follow along fine and enjoy the Pilot. But with Vanitymoth, it seems just didn't seem to understand and get the Pilot or what even the concept of a Pilot Is..the whole point of a Pilot Is to introduced you to the world, the setting where the story is taking place in and introduce the characters we'll be following along, and although Lackadaisy isn't perfect at all, no piece of media is, but I think they did a good job. Another thing Vanitymoth is that in his reviews for most of the time he thinks his opinions are the definitive answers to the direction the show is going and bashes people who actually know to have fun with the show and sees his opinions as definite facts.

He also constantly whined and complains about TADC getting more attention than MD, like he's complained about it a lot, he mentions it at some points in his "The Slow Death Of Murder Drones Fandom" and it seems he had an issue of another Glitch having another show going on that was more popular, like...you don't have to enjoy and like TADC but you don't need to put one show down to praise the other, why not enjoy both shows?? Also, the thing about the MD fanbase dying after the show ends, which I don't think will happen as the fandom has gotten bigger and popular since the Pilot's release and the show will still be rewatched and beloved by fans and others even now the show's over and just because a fandom doesn't interact 24/7 doesn't mean it's dead, that's like saying the Gravity Falls fandom died after the show ended..like the show is still popular and the fandom is still huge even years after the show's finale, besides Glitch has expressed that they wanna do more with MD in the future so we'll probably be seeing more of these characters in the near future, so that doesn't make sense and it seems Vanity only wants Glitch to favor MD only and it's just frustrating.

Now, let's discuss his MD reviews..alright so first let me started off my saying that I'm fine with being critical and being criticism and there's many things you can critique about MD as it's NOT a perfect show but as I said the thing with Vanity is that he seems so damn negative in almost all his MD reviews even though some points can be valid, but most of the time to me..his criticisms just seems in bad faith, not valid and just him pulling stuff and random theories out of nowhere to fit his own narrative. Let's point out and start on how he just doesn't understand and gets the characters in the slightest, he doesn't shy away or even try to hide in the slightest that he's got hatred for both N and Uzi, Nuzi especially as a couple..but is totally fine and ships Cyn and N together and then got pissed at the fanbase and acted like a baby because nobody liked the ship, like jesus dude..

And he's also mischaracterized the characters like most in the fandom do unfortunately but he's done it the most to both N and Uzi especially, like I said he doesn't shy away that he hates them with a burning passion. He's shown his hatered for Uzi (not even surprised in the slightest as he commissioned some hate art of Uzi getting beat up by J) and mischaracterized her and saying how her whole character is only involved around N and is blaming her just like some haters of Uzi and it's just frustrating..like UZI DIDN'T do anything wrong at all and characters can be characters on their own and have a love interest, I'm really sick and tired of all the Uzi hate is annoying as hell and frustrating, even after the finale Uzi is still getting hated and it's just so unjustified, Vanity and others need to realize that Uzi has gone through something called..."CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!!" ✨💜 Y'all seem to NOT understand and get it and just wanna say certain things to make characters look worse and awful and overall don't get these characters, oh and don't get me started on his video about N's character analysis..and similar to Uzi, he doesn't understand and get N and called him "obsessive" over Uzi and and killed "Tessa" without a second thought and seems to see N as some yandere or something. And he's doing this all because he hates Nuzi, like you don't have to like this ship but acting this way and getting this mad and acting the way you do over a FUCKING ship is childish as shit, and another thing is that he literally pulled something from non-canon and called it a "pattern" because of Liam Vickers or some stuff like that and reading Vanity's so-called theories and analysis just reminds me of "Analysis so bad you don't even know what it's talking about anymore" thread over on Twitter, his video and the way he analysis N's character by ignoring his feelings and trying to paint him as this savior lunatic that's so obsessed with Uzi that he'd sacrifice the universe and loved ones just to have her is just...mischaracterization is an understatement, a straight-up bastardization of his entire personality and arc, Vanity doesn't understand or get any of these characters and gives these bad takes to make them look worse.

He's currently working on his review on the finale and I'm not looking forward to it in the slightest like as I said, I'm all for giving criticisms and you're allowed to love and be a fan of show I'm the same way, and I'm sure others are the same and don't blindly praise whatever they like 24/7 and see them as perfect, you're allowed to feel how you feel and you're valid and allowed to not like the finale. But most of the time in Vanity's videos is that it's mostly negative and he complains about almost anything, even nitpicking the smallest things and he barely discusses the positives about he reviews and uses his opinions as definite facts. It sucks because I really did enjoy and liked Vanity as a reviewer in the beginning as he did bring up some valid points and was decent as a YouTuber but as he kept on putting out more videos, getting more popular he just seemed to get more and more negative and I saw a quality drop in his videos, he's barely positive in his videos and it just makes him unpleasant and boring to watch and hard to fully enjoy his stuff.

Really hope this little rant sounded fair and was okay, I don't really do these type of posts anymore and don't wanna be mean as the intension of this post was to give some opinions on this person. Once again, this isn't me trying to send any hate to Vanity and I'll say once more, please DON'T send any hate and bother him, I just wanted to give my thoughts and opinions about him and his content as I've had some issues with his content since 2023'ish and wish he could improve as an reviewer and just be more fairer when it comes to what he reviews, along with seeing that people are allowed to enjoy and love more than one show and just because one show is getting more popular doesn't make another show any lesser, both TADC and MD are great and incredible shows made by talented and amazing people, Meta Runner is also another good (very underrated, btw) show and I know Gaslight District will probably be a great too, nobody shouldn't be holding and putting these shows against each other, bashing and praising different shows, please support all shows and indie animation as a whole. ❤️

[yushirosblog]

So like two days ago - thanks to "Vanitymoth" on YouTube, I actually found out two new angels named "Polyester" and "Polyurethane" are showing up in season 2 of panty and stocking.

At first glance, I thought they mostly look like k pop idols or a member of a boy band, and the fact they refer to themselves as "new gen angels". Either they're younger than panty and Stocking, which I doubt - or they just became angels. Albeit, the latter seems much more believable. Overall, I'm looking forward to their appearance in season two

[chaifootsteps]

Vanitymoth's latest youtube video on Mastermind presented an incredible point: Andre's evil scheme of using Stolas' affair and the crime of lending out his grimoire to Blitz as a way of bringing his downfall and seizing his estate SHOULD HAVE BEEN STELLA'S PLOT LINE SINCE STELLA ACTUALLY HAS A PERSONAL INVESTMENT IN THE STORY! Instead, Viv made Stella TOO STUPID to come up with the scheme herself and added on Andre as an UNNECESSARY character who got the estate instead because Viv's sexist.

Just when you think the incredible points have to be running out, someone comes up with another one!