reviewinmyway

[bitteralmondsartportfolio]

vivziepop art study

[geekgirles]

I'm getting some real Kesha (Duh) meets Jay Jay (Double Duh) meets Lola Bunny The Looney Toon Show Version vibes from her and I. Am. Here. For. It!!!

[songjay-ay]

DR season 2 pt 2 comes out and agent walker looks like this wyd

[imsleepy-aaa]

the evil urges won. Emo Alastor

[popr0cks]

JAY JAYYYYYYYY

I was crazy abt her back when I first found out abt her when I was younger actually you have no idea how many times I watched that one die young music vid actually

[nebulabunnyarts]

Im curious

Why do you not support Vivziepop anymore? Did she do smth bad?

There's tons upon tons of records of employees that spoke out against her. She was very shitty to a lot of people, mostly animators and artists. Look for them, they're not hard to find.

A lot of these people were also now employed by Tracey- from Lackadaisy, and are in a much healthier workplace. Which, good for them honestly, they deserve it.

Viv has done a lot of sketchy stuff, but these are the reasons why I chose to leave the fandom.

I used to not believe these people, because.... I don't know, I guess I was stupid, blinded, thought that "Viv would never do that!". But then things became very obvious, I left the fandom, and now that I'm able to look back at it without the rose tinted glasses .... Yeah her business practices are obviously not good. And I really dislike her attitude, the way she tries to control the fandom, and how much people suck up to her in result.

I don't see anything wrong with being in the fandom itself. You can't control what makes your brain go all ooga booga, but I just choose not to support it anymore.

[ideahorrid]

Jay Jay - Zoophobia Vivziepop Fanart

[bmboog]

Jay is so much fun to draw <3

[katzesofi]

Primal + Glamrock Freddy and Jay Jay + Roxy

[blueshinefox]

To all Hazbin and Helluva fans, I dedicate this music video mashup, and I'm VERY excited for the new Hazbin Hotel TV series, which is coming out in Summer 2023.

Cheers to both Your Favorite Martian fans and VivziePop fans!

[madebyteenagefury]

let the record state that the only reason stayed gone from the hazbin hotel soundtrack is on the top of my repeats is because christian borle fucking cooked in the recording room and thats it.

[geekgirles]

[avasq89250]

Die Young

watched Vivziepop's animation of Kesha's Die Young https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBpGs_aGa8A

and a crossover with Jay Jay as Loona's older sister and Loonie is not happy to see her.

Moxxie is crushed by the door, while Blitzo is just wondering who is going to pay for it.

[winterspellsfrozenkit]

Oh God

Their are other ways is out

I was really hoping Jay wouldn’t go the route he did but he did :(

I love the music behind the part where Odysseus turns Searcy down but on the other hand… He completely completely erased the part where Odysseus was straight up SA’d

I… Jay I love you, BUT WHYYYY

So I listened to ""There Are Other Ways" and I have three theories to WHY Jay changed it to Odysseus breaking down and turning down Circe. 1. The year long timeskip was difficult to explain, 2. Sexual coercion/abuse is NEVER a comfy subject and he might've been worried about not handling it well, and 3. It helps ensure people understand Odysseus LOVES Penelope. Let's me explain:

Reason 1. The year long time skip is difficult to explain: In the Odyssey, we don't know what happened while Odysseus and his men stayed on Circe's island for a year, just that they were resting and recovering, but the men have to remind Odysseus about going home which makes me think something happened to make Odysseus either forget or become wary to leave, which is odd because Penelope and Telemachus are his big drive, so not wanting to leave immediately is out of character for him OR the men weren't going to move until they were ready and he was waiting for them.

Reason 2. Sexual coercion and abuse are really difficult to handle: When Hazbin Hotel snippets got leaked, everyone flipped out on Vivziepop for part of the Poison song that got leaked. Keep in mind that Vivziepop was a victim of abuse and parts of Angel's story with Valentino was pulled from her past with her toxic ex. Even so, people flipped out on her on social media for the leak, saying she was making light or not showing how awful sexual abuse is, but when Poison came out in full, people saw it really was showing the ugliness and horror of the situation. Circe's situation is more coercive and coercive situations are awful in their own right because they give the illusion of choice to the point people will blame the victim because "Well, why did they say yes? They could've said no." because people don't see or recognize the coercion. As a result, Jay might've been wary about handling the situation poorly or how fans would react. It does show the insidious nature of coercion, having Odysseus is agreeing there's no puppet, but he has to say that to get his men back and by having him breakdown and say "I can't!", it shows how much this is actually hurting him. Epic doesn't have accompanying visuals in the way Poison does, so showing how much being pushed to sleep with Circe had harmed Odysseus is really difficult with just dialogue alone.

Reason 3. It helps ensure people understand Odysseus LOVES Penelope. If you go around Tumblr, you'll see SO MANY PEOPLE BLAME ODYSSEUS FOR CIRCE AND CALYPSO. They claim Penelope deserves better than Odysseus, ignoring the sexual coercion and rape that happened to him. They shame him and say he claimed to love his wife, but slept with two other women the first chance he got. By choosing to have Odysseus breakdown at the idea of being pushed to sleep with Circe, it attacks that idea that Odysseus would choose to cheat on Penelope. It shows the true heart of Odysseus: the man who went to woo Helen of Troy, but decided her cousin, Penelope, was who he wanted to marry; the man who risked becoming an oath-breaker to stay with his wife and infant son when he was called to war; the man who didn't stay with Circe and refused immortality and staying with Calypso to go home to his mortal wife.

Adaptations are difficult. I wouldn't say it was a complete erasure, because it leads up to it, but just has Odysseus breakdown before anything happened. Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about it, because Odysseus was a victim and that shouldn't be forgotten, but I do think the song drove home that emotional impact this situation had on Odysseus in that this situation was harmful to Odysseus and that he wouldn't choose to cheat which is important. I'm a writer, not a song writer, but a writer and the idea of tackling the complex emotions of that situation and all the effects it has on a victim in one song is daunting. It's why a lot of people choose to avoid depicting situations of coercion and abuse. There's so many complex emotions tied up in situations like this and how do you accurately depict that in one song that has no visuals and is only dialogue? How do you explain the emotional pain and feelings of helplessness a victim is going through? What emotion is going to be the main one coming from the victim? Grief? Guilt? Rage? Fear? Which is more important: the event itself happening or the emotional impact?

Jay might've not gone fully into the event, but he did show the emotional impact and how much this situation hurt Odysseus with him breaking down and begging Circe to grant him and his men mercy. He showed Odysseus struggling with what he had to do to save his men. Comparing to most adaptations, this one actually does show some of the emotional pain Odysseus must've had in the situation, rather than painting it as Odysseus romancing Circe or cheating on Penelope. It's not perfect, but it gives Odysseus more understanding in the situation than most adaptations do, so I'm relieved and grateful for that.

[popr0cks]

Fake Summer Jay Jay merch design, Strawberry Lemonade!! might get it as a custom acrylic charm 1 day when I have money lol

[nebulabunnyarts]

I like Hazbin Hotel but like... I hate vivziepop. I found out she's a disgusting person after what i found on tumblr.

It's okay if you like it. There's ways to enjoy shows without supporting their shitty creators. Wink wink. Nudge nudge 🏴‍☠️

Don't buy official merch. Buy from fanartists instead!

And if you're worried about those who worked on the show, take this in mind: they were already paid (even if it was like. Minimum wage from what I've heard), they already have been credited for their work, and they are already working at a studio, the only ones who will benefit from you paying for the streaming services are the higher ups, NOT the artists. So yeah. 🏴‍☠️