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I've been thinking about the time post-canon where WGXN break out of the honeymoon phase because LWJ gets hurt. Maybe protecting WWX; that'd be the worst.
It's not a break-up; it's just LWJ realizing that WWX isn't acting quite the same. It's the glance LWJ's side when WWX brags about his husband. It's the bragging being less hyperbolic and LWJ not being sure if WWX's laughter is fake. Not relying on LWJ as much. Not mentioning details relevant to their night-hunts to LWJ. The more it goes on the less LWJ is being trusted by WWX, and LWJ is unable to find a way to change this. When LWJ grabs WWX and insists upon his devotion to WWX, WWX replies that of course he knows! LWJ tells WWX that he'll never let anything happen to WWX, but he's not sure WWX believes him.
Anyway LWJ is feeling some kind of way about being frozen out of WWX's confidence, not that he's put it in those words, and then they find themselves on a night-hunt with YMJ - it's a night-hunt with an investigation part so it takes them a while, and SLJ is there, which LWJ usually hates but isn't even his least favorite thing about the endeavour at the moment. LWJ isn't paying as much attention (glaring) to SLJ as usual, he's too busy with trying to regain WWX's trust being sad being focused on his relationship with WWX.
WWX and LWJ do spend some more time than usual with JC, ostensibly coordinating the night-hunt, really because spending time with JC is easier than WWX remembered (not least because it means not being alone with LWJ). Huh! JC has changed. No longer quite the pathetic, petty, weak boy WWX enshrined in his memory.
At the end of a conversation, when WWX has flit away and LWJ is brooding, and for some reason JC didn't leave yet and is still with LWJ, JC gives a little sigh. "So it's started, then."
LWJ looks at him. He wants JC to shut up and go away - he always wants JC to shut up and go away - but he also wants to know what JC means.
"He's started walling off. What did you do that made him lose confidence in you? He couldn't talk your strength too high and now he's finding excuses not to let you investigate on your own."
LWJ bristles. "You dont--"
The denial dies off on its own. What would he say? SLJ makes what is happening into a bad thing. But isn't it a bad thing, isn't it something LWJ wishes would go away? But he makes it something LWJ's did, but LWJ didn't mean to - but does LWJ's intent matter, when the result is letting WWX down? It feels unfair; it feels deserved. Would LWJ rather JC make it into WWX's fault somehow? Simply imagining JC casting WWX as the culprit makes anger swell in LWJ's belly.
He stares at JC, mute.
The corner of JC's lips twist in something that's not quite a smile. "Did you think it would never happen to you?"
LWJ hears the echo of the question he's thought about JC for years. Did you think you were good enough for him?
I've been thinking about it a lot.
The isolation and alienation of your loved one denying you the acknowledgement that there's something wrong; the loneliness of carrying a relationship with someone who's neatly slid you out of the people he's willing to be vulnerable with; the unbearable kinship with someone you hate, someone your loved one left behind, someone you're horrified to realize went through the same, like a mirror the future holds out to you.
#mdzs#zhanchengxian by virtue of lwj and jc pining after wwx#wgxn not-technically-a-break-up (yet)(give wwx time to push a break up into happening without uttering the words himself)#lwj does have both head and shoulders over jc's startingnposition AND he's more willing than jc to let wwx walk all over him#so he can cling to the hope that things will be alright and wwx won't treat him like he did jc#and he's probably right in that wwx won't leave him but he's certainly wrong about never losing wwx's trust
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Hot Takes that prove you've completely failed to engage with the worldbuilding and themes of the original work on basically all levels:
"jc didn't support wwx + the wen remnants because he only cared about his reputation. wwx cares about morals; jc only cares about his image"
"the jiang sect's position was actually super strong after the sunshot campaign"
#canon jiang cheng#canon jc#jiang cheng#kings mustve closed their eyes for all the non wgxn parts lmao. god bless
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Thank you MDZS Japan for the three course XiYao meal today 🙇🏻♀️🙇🏻♀️🙇🏻♀️
#jgy looks so classy he's putting everyone to shame#they're babysitting the juniors with jc at the festival because wgxn are already busy flirting somewhere else#and they're waiting for the perfect moment to leave them all to jc to leave and make out behind the cotton candy booth#jgy is holding a lantern because he's the light of our (and lxc's) lives <3
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brb i need to assign artistic movements to mxtx couples
#i started thinking about this on the metro#So Many Thoughts#mxtx#maybe have to be back after class#and after lib#but i want to find examples to illustrate#rn thinking wgxn are baroque#and bingqiu are hear me out insular illuminated manuscripts#my opinion of hualian will obvs be less well thought out#bc idk them very well#but ill try my best#svsss#mdzs
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Honestly I find it narratively satisfying that many of mxtx's secondary characters have mixed to downright tragic endings, even though there are so many of them that I love to bits and want to be happy.
It makes the happiness of the leads feel so much more hard-won, emphasises that life goes on despite it all. Gives the ache of tragedy alongside the bliss of the happy ending, sharp and sweet, raspberries and cream.
That's totally fair!! It's just that what I want as an Appreciator Of Literature and what I want as a Fan Of The Blorbo are two very different things, and it feels like MXTX gives us Blorbo Fan endings for the main characters and Literature endings for the side characters. It makes sense though!
#asks#helendamnationx#bee-gcf#yunmeng bee posts#that's just my pov#like in mdzs the wgxn cottagecore fantasy is Not suited to the characters imo#so it's not very satisfying for the opposite reason? if that makes sense?#idk
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found out one of my mom's middleaged woman friends is a cqlhead by having them visit my apt and her seeing my huge wangxian figurine iam not gonna lie it's feeling a little Too revealing in here rn
#j.txt#if she tells my mom those men are gay its OVER for me. like i cannot come back from that theres no way😬#I showed her the soundtrack booklet I have and she goes “dont you just love their chemistry” about wgxn so like. Does She Know ???!?!#but I Did confirm she's never read the books at least thankfuckinggod. she did see all my unambiguously romantic fanart prints of them#in my collages and not say anything so? Perhaps it is fine..... idk man this is still too much perceiving for me >///< !!
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Wangxian and vintage love songs belong together argue with the wall
#mdzs#my wgxn playlist is like 90 per cent old ass songs#the old scrathy sound#the intrumentals#the soft lyrics#its so them
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i'm wondering if mxtx hadn't planned for nhs's character to be a lil bit more expanded upon, because... it's word of god that he and nmj have different mothers. but they didn't have to! it's perfectly normal for one son to be Worthy of inheriting the sect/family business/whatever and the other to be a cringefail dandy without those differences being Justified by Different Mothers. and yet...?
#shrimp thoughts#gazes at mxtx carefully...#iirc he was supposed to have his own sms/partner/? in the revisions...? mxtx it's fine. idc about other fans personally i'd Love to read#about people who aren't wgxn
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This post is out there to make me cry and @eternal-brainrot and @reblorzelska have teamed up to give me the final blow
it truly cannot be overstated how completely bereft lan xichen is of meaningful, supportive connections post-canon.
even pre-canon*, the number of characters in his life who seek out his company without placing any expectations upon him is very, very, very low. (in fact there is only one character who does this. you know who it is, i'm just not saying who it is because i don't have to.)
post-canon, what indication do we have in the text that anyone is making his welfare anything close to a priority?
he has been totally abandoned by both the jianghu and the narrative.
#lan xichen#I'm so so sad about him#taking up the duty of being the permanent peacemaker and diplomat and then being abandoned by all#INCLUDING THE NARRATIVE#even in terms of general presence which makes me so fucking crazy. I want more of him!!#head in my hands tears in my eyes#lxc defense squad#xiyao#yes#mdzs#also the fandom pipeline from 'haha he's just the nice big bro who ships wgxn' to 'eh that guy doesn't deserve anything'. SHAME ON YOU ALL#sorry for taking 3 business days to actually read posts it's just that there are so many interesting ones on here
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Do think it's very crunchy that WWX only defends his new flavor of the month in the ancestral hall. Not himself. Not WN, to whom JC did arguably have a life debt and for whom WWX did dump JC. Not any of these old things; just the shiny new hot powerful protective dude that he doesn't have any meaningful preexisting bond with and that he's been falling for since returning and running away from his previous life.
Just the perfect, serene blank slate of novelty (and the guilty undercurrent of once again feeling something that isn't socially acceptable and won't be welcome).
#i love him so much he's so awful#it's always like that he's always taking it allll upon himself when it comes to whoever is the new person he's decided to be stupid for#so that's something that's gonna go the way of all of wwx's previous relationships#wgxn replacing ningxian replacing chengxian#out of ego and because he thinks no-one is smart and competent like he is#wwx's canonically shitty taste in men#etc#and bc it's been thrust very firmly upon him to be The One Who Does Impossible Things#without anyone asking him to#and then he starts to resent and/or avoid them because he's the one doing all these hard terrible things without ~expecting anything back#but of course he does!!!!#and it's so sad#it is good that at least lwj provides a distraction and wwx at least gets a hot and emotionally undemanding rebound out of it
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Sometimes, someone will like a few of my Jiang Cheng posts and then follow me so I go "oh cool, mdzs blog I'll check it out" and then their pinned post is about how much they love wgxn and how much chengxian sucks...
I don't think this blog is for you darling 💜
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Allow me to be mean and salty for a second. Sometimes it seems like there are clear correlations between certain types of fans of certain characters/ships and a certain way of interpreting (= completely exaggerating and twisting) canon scenes (= one quote).
#nebulathundertalks#I am being MEAN >:((((#it's too late for me to discuss it further but I may or may not do it tomorrow#for now I'm going to color some wgxn!!!!! duh!!!!!!!
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But if you acknowledge the canon and the plot relevance what's left for the main couple, huh????
The fact that JC antis were crying, pissing, shitting over a tiny, pixilated image of Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian on a magazine cover is exactly why I can't take any of y'all seriously like omfg 💀💀

The tiny image in the top corner I've circled is what they're whinging over and threatening to boycott btw because Lan Wangji is not with Wei Wuxian in it or whatever 😒
You'd think that the image was of Chengxian having hot gay sex by those complaints, but oh no. Here is the close-up version, instead depicting a very integral scene in the book that kick-started the major events in the first place..
No romantic undertones, nothing.
I think JC antis just need to admit to their insecurities at this point. Because it seriously sounds like they feel threatened by JC's huge mistress energy. It honestly explains all the obsessive hatred for him now!
#laughing and laughing and laughing#talk about a self-own#disclaimer i think it's really cool how in the book wgxn is a thing that happens in wwx's second life bc wwx wants out of the drama!#ok but did people actually complain or are we just laughing because it's funny to imagine
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actually, it is not surprising at all that, for me, jiang cheng and wei ying’s relationship is the one that stands out, that pulls at my heartstrings, the most in mdzs. complicated, estranged siblings with severe communication issues and wounds that won’t heal, but who still despite everything despite not being able to say it, still care so much for one another? well if that’s not my m.o. exactly i don’t know what is
#i just didn’t know jiang cheng existed#blinded#for years#by all the wgxn edits#also i’m still only on s2 of the donghua about to start s3 so idk where they go from here but#this is my read on their dynamic so far#and if it continues developing in this vein… well#i really am so predictable#mdzs#jiang cheng#wei ying#also adopted siblings are still siblings#also also i do like their relationship with jiang yanli ofc i do but that’s a bit more straightforward#if still just as tragic
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sometimes I wish Jiang Cheng actually had done all the stuff that people accuse him of so I could defend my enjoyment of him the same way Xue Yang fans do ("sometimes your blorbo is simply a fucked up guy who tortures people for fun and likes stabbing his loved ones in the back ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ what can i say I love a villain"). Instead I have to put up with wgxn stans who think JC killed WWX, beats his nephew every day, and tried to murder wgxn for touching their pinky fingers together while in his house
#the untamed#mo dao zu shi#cheng qing ling#mdzs#cql#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#jiang cheng#mo xiang tong xiu#and then they accuse ME of having no reading comprehension...#???#haterade#yunmeng bee posts
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speaking of buying merch I got my first ita bag recently and unforch it's just a little too small for my usual sketchbook which means it'll have to be a bag for when I Don't bring my sketchbook w me but that leaves me torn on how to decorate it... bc I dont want to use up All my good pins/charms when I'll only have it with me some of the time.....
#j.txt#my usual bag is an old backpack that has tons of room both storage and display-wise so I keep a good balance of nice merch and fillers on i#but if I move some of those to the ita bag I don't have anything to replace them... I need to figure out if I'm doing like. one cohesive-#theme to the stuff on the ita bag too or just my usual mix and match whatever I have strat...#if it were just like 3in bigger in each dimension that would fix All my problems ahhgk😓#it would match a lot of my wgxn merch really well but I don't have a Ton of that and I have some hl+dv pins I want to be able to take out#that i keep on my indoor pinboard rn bc I was too scared of losing them. so it'd be nice to put those on the ita bag#but then the color scheme wld be gone</3 i'll just keep using the old bag until I figure it out ig sigh...
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