#haterade

[yunmeng-jiang]

sometimes I wish Jiang Cheng actually had done all the stuff that people accuse him of so I could defend my enjoyment of him the same way Xue Yang fans do ("sometimes your blorbo is simply a fucked up guy who tortures people for fun and likes stabbing his loved ones in the back ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ what can i say I love a villain"). Instead I have to put up with wgxn stans who think JC killed WWX, beats his nephew every day, and tried to murder wgxn for touching their pinky fingers together while in his house

[oh-good]

Not to be a hater but absolutely to be a hater Stanley cups are some of the ugliest cups I've ever seen and people only want them because they've been told that they should

[mitskijamie]

Particular genre of TL fans I cannot stand is people who have like this made up version of Roy in their minds who is a perfect boyfriend and has never done anything wrong in his life and so whenever Roy literally does something onscreen that they don't like they're like "this was so out of character. Roy would never do this". As if that's not literally the character right there

[gaynfl]

I recognize that by simply being a lemming and rooting for Red Bull I could enjoy these races a bit more but the thing about me is that I refuse to root for a team that employs Christian Horner and has Max "not my problem" Verstappen as a driver 🫶🏻

[metamatar]

you know when you're only sort of aware of some public intellectual so you don't really have a first hand opinion? well. amia srinivasan's essays in right to sex: feminism for the twenty first century, specifically conspiracy against men and talking to my students about porn are terribly boring, poorly organised and liberal in the most pedestrian sense. she can't even bring herself to condemn mackinnon and dworkin's role in the anti porn wars properly i have to read her engage with them like a wide eyed ingenue which if its an intentional tonal affect is a horrible choice.

[petshopbibliography]

Hate: Neil Tennant on the power of negative thinking. Select Magazine, October 1992.

Text of the essay below the cut:

If not for hatred, I wouldn’t be doing what I do now. I became a pop star because I hated football at school. I hated that whole attitude of being one of the crowd. Becoming a pop star was my revenge. Revenge for being bad at football. For not being athletic. For being mocked.

That’s the thing about negative energy, about hatred. It can be positive. It throws into relief all the things you know you like. It tells you, by elimination, what you’re about. Sometimes you can only define yourself by what you hate. Hatred becomes an inspiration; it makes you think, “What I’m doing now I totally believe in, and I don’t care what other people say.” Guided by hatred, you don’t have to follow the herd.

I hate the way people all like the same things at the same time. I’ve never understood it. When people are told about Coke – “It’s the real thing” – they should think, “No, it’s a hideous soft drink that is fantastically unhealthy to drink, full of sugar that turns into glucose that turns into fat.” They should look around America and think, “God, there are so many fat people here! Why? Because they all eat hamburgers and drink cola.” And they should hate the people who represent that. They should hate Michael Jackson for trying to foist Pepsi onto them, to make them fat victims of their own society. They should hate more. Hate Pepsi, hate Coca-Cola, hate Michael Jackson. Hate George Bush. And think about the alternatives. That’s another good thing about hatred. It makes you think about the alternatives.

Of course, these days it’s more fashionable to be positive. I hate positivity. The problem with positivity is that it’s an attitude that’s decidedly about lying back, getting screwed, and accepting it. Happily. It’s totally apolitical. It’s very, very personal and one-on-one. It’s not about changing society, it’s about caring about yourself. In fact, it’s totally about ignoring one’s economic role in society, and so it works in favor of the system. Just look at work years of personal consciousness theories have given us: those icons of the status quo, George Bush and John Major.

Positivity is fundamentally middle-class. It’s about having the time, the space and the money to sort out where your head is at. Therapy is just another side of positivity. It’s a leisure activity, a luxury for people who don’t have any real cares. It’s new age selfishness, the new way of saying that charity begins at home.

And positivity makes the world stay the same. Hatred is the force that moves society along, for better or for worse. People aren’t driven by saying, “Oh wow, I’m at peace with myself.” They’re driven by their hatred of injustice, hatred of unfairness, of how power is used. That’s as true for pop music as it is for politics. I always feel the reason so much music comes out of Britain is because there’s so much hatred. You see or hear something and grow envious. Whereas if your positive reaction is, “Wow, that’s great,” you just sit back and think how great it is and you don’t do anything. You relax.

Luckily, I’ve never been a very relaxed person. When I look at pop music, I immediately hate things. I look at singers who say they are taking two years off to work for charity when, in fact, they’ll spend two years working on their album, and I hate them. Right now I really hate performers who make a big deal out of playing benefits and donating the proceeds from the sales of their records to charities. They could give plenty of money to charities and not tell anyone, but instead, they cash in on the fact. That’s not charity, it’s marketing. It’s about selling albums under the guise of a moral imperative. They say they’re trying to raise consciousness, as if being a celebrity gives them power and endows them with the answers to the world’s problems. But really they just want to be seen as heroes. I think it’s breathtakingly cynical and I hate it.

Another thing I hate, and another inspiration for what the Pet Shop Boys do, is the way people misunderstand pop culture. It annoys me that after more than twenty-five years, Top of the Pops, Britain’s most important pop-music TV program, changed the rules so that you have to sing live. Why? Because the people in control are the kind of conservatives who think that in the ‘60s, everything was much more talented than they are now. It’s all about Rolling Stone rock culture, which is essentially a fear of the new. Rolling Stone’s idea of a musician is Jerry Garcia, from the 60s. Look at all the ‘new’ artists – Curtis Stigers, Michael Bolton, Lenny Kravitz – all of them living in the past. I think you have to live in the future. Or at least in the present.

The Pet Shop Boys have always hated most of the prevailing attitudes and tried to do the opposite. Our hatred of what other people do has always helped us redefine our actions. To hate a lot of things is tantamount to really caring about others. If you like everything, you deal with nothing. When people hear Chris and me talking, they’re sometimes shocked by how negative we are. We’re constantly critical of everything, including ourselves. But I come from a generation that liked its artists to say what was wrong with our lives. I retain the old-fashioned belief that pop music is meant to be a challenge to society as well as an affirmation of it. And so I consider it my duty to hate things.

[oflights]

now i'm curious why do you have a blood feud with emerald fennell? what has she done to you?

asdlksadjd oh anon, what HASN'T she done to me!!

her sins:

killing eve season 2

the promising young woman bait and switch (what do you mean the thing that ruined her life was actually seeking revenge and not rape culture?? this is feminism??? it's actually wrong to seek justice and you must be Punished for it?)

her class politics are suspect as hell. the talented mr. ripley did saltburn without validating ruling class paranoia that the middle class is constantly scheming to steal their wealth and property and that's the only way they can be upwardly mobile. i feel like she read some henry james and walked away from it not understanding anything but wanting to write something about it. also i want to know what jewel heiress emerald fennell took from parasite. quick.

i just think she's a crappy writer who strings twists! and shock value! and style! and aesthetic! all together with poor underlying narratives that surround a conservative worldview that you'd walk into an intro to lit course with and think was very impressive, except she walked out of it with the same worldview because i'm not entirely convinced she can read.

[kuntya]

Blue Eye Samurai Gripes

I mostly like it! But like Mizu, I have hate in my heart. So..

Bullets aside, NO WAY is Fowler physically a threat to Mizu. Most of their fights was him bonking her with the gun or grappling. Literally 2 minutes before, she wrecked a fucking giant. ????

Akemi is my wife and I love her. But she keeps acting surprised by the culture she grew up in.

Not gay enough.

I don't buy that Mizu's husband would betray her that fast. (And if he didn't betray her, he would have backed her up.)

The action jumps the shark in the claw army fight.

Why is she a dick for not saving Akemi? Is she responsible for literally everything?? They talked for 5 minutes, and Akemi tried to poison her.

I hate the concept of "women can have power by fucking men". A lot of women fucked a lot of men and didn't get any power out of it! Like, that has ever happened, and it's an ok strategy for Akemi. But as a girlboss aphorism, I actively hate it.

There is no way Mizu cares what Ringo and Taigen think. She met them a week ago. And they're both pretty dumb. NO way can they make her introspect.

After all that flimsy sad shit, she burns down a whole fucking city. She doesn't care! Let her not care. I'm not Catholic. Skip the guilt thing.

Taigen does not just want to be happy.

[bluestockingbaby]

tired of the posts floating around about Two-Face being a fun uncle to the Robins. It’s kind of a cute non-canon idea, but they do all hate that motherfucker and they’re right to do so.

[theshippingnews]

I can't believe Folklore & Evermore tricked me into liking Taylor Swift when almost everything since has been lazy vocals on the same 3 Jack Antonoff beats.

Maybe I will like her again in 20 years when she has had several ego deaths and is making weird sound art instead of trying to be the most famous person alive

[yunmeng-jiang]

My problem with x!cheng is that the only time I really care about it is when it's a deep-dive into their characters postcanon when both of them are deeply fucked up in somewhat similar yet different ways and it's a long process that happens over a significant amount of time where they form bonds of friendship first and help each other identify and work through their issues almost accidentally through talking over things which of course is pretty difficult and intense for both of them, but they also respect each other's need for space to process stuff on their own as well, and neither of them leaves their sect because in canon their sects and responsibilities are very important to them. And it feels like the vast majority of content in that ship is random fluff that mischaracterizes both of them in extremely weird ways.

[proustianrevelry]

"Haha, it's so cute when German Shepherds bite men :)"

"Aww, Genocide Joe's cute little gshep only bites secret service members :))"

"My friend had a german shepherd that loved her and bit her filthy adulterous husband"

This is not breed-specific behavior. It is extremely common behavior among ill-socialized dogs to single out males (men and boys who've hit puberty), Black people, and people wearing big floppy hats.

German Shephards cannot smell if your husbands have been stepping out on you, you've just failed to train it to a standard where it can exist in human society and not risk being destroyed. (My family's first dog was put down for biting a teenage boy who approached my sister's pram with permission.)

German Shepherds can smell weed, and maybe even bombs idk, but that's not what cops condition them to bark and bite over.

[mitskijamie]

I feel about some “Ted” fans the way you feel about some “Roy” fans: “Oh he would XYZ!” well actually he. Didn’t. I fucking love Ted as he is and wish people did not project whatever their perfect dad/boyfriend/boyfrienddad onto a guy who has literally never been shown to do that stuff.

The struggle is so real....when a complicated and multifaceted character gets flanderized into some shit fandom pulled out of their ass <<<<

[gaynfl]

he didn't even play a full percent of snaps

[metamatar]

Indian muslims also practice caste discrimination (if you want to say that this is somehow the fault of vedic religion, the first caliphates were explicitly founded on notions of arab supremacy lol). Even Sikhs have caste despite opposing caste discrimination. I think as an historical materialist it's silly to say that caste society was created by vedic texts rather than the other way around

Being critical of Hinduism gets you sooo many anons willfully misstating your position so they can do apologia! Vedic texts formalised a hierarchy so evil that it makes Christianity's commitment to all equal in the eyes of god look merciful.

Tell me dear anon, why would Muslims and Christians practice caste only in South Asia? Does it have something do with proximity to a religion with a brutal formalised caste system? "Wahhhh nothing is ever Hinduism's fault that is the real historical materialism!!!" You're a coward even ideologically.

[petshopbibliography]

Interview with PSB, Gay Times, June 2002. By Steve Pafford.

Includes: bitchiness, Chris showing up late, interviewer ponders Neil's shoe size, "going rock", a possibly dwindling fan base, "showbusiness chords", Chris Is Eating, Chris "quite liked the idea of bankrupting him. You could waltz into the Groucho Club and he’d be sitting outside in a cardboard box and you could piss on him", ghastly radio schedules