#which like would not be that bothersome if it didnt obviously have a really different voice director

[moonsidesong]

this would probably be really impractical and i doubt they'd ever do it (if puyo games even continue getting dubbed...) but sometimes i kinda wish you could switch between eng and jpn voices on individual characters. like i'd say generally? i prefer jpn? but man megan taylor harvey and zeno robinson just knocked their performances out of the park sooo much as marle and squares and i always miss them when im playing in japanese

[lunarlagomorph]

Ok this time i actually wrote out what i thought of tsukihime. Im readmoring both for spoilers and length

First off, kohaku's route: really incredible and the way it builds off hisui's route flips a lot of things that seemed innocent on your head, and makes you pay attention to the parts of the plot you already know to understand what Kohaku is really doing and feeling. A good example of this is when Kohaku cuts her finger while cooking and says she can just imagine her hand as a doll hand; in hisui's route this comes across as weird and having more to it, obviously, but knowing exactly what she means makes it a lot sadder to hear.

In general, I think that's one of Tsukihime's strengths you are essentially hearing the same story multiple times, but it manages to recontextualize everything each time and never gets too boring. Certainly there is the difference between the near and far side routes, as well as among the routes themselves, but even those have so many similarities due to shiki's (and SHIKI's) backstory, shiki's connection to the killer, etc. But the timing of the reveals, what shiki does and doesn't know, and a bunch of other things keep the same information feeling fresh, and really lets the game explore all sides of the characters relationships.

Though btw that does remind me why is roa just. Not in the second half? Did he not reincarnate as SHIKI in those? We see Arcueid is in town so one imagines she is here to kill roa. I mean she could just be here to kill the vampire serial killer (SHIKI) but if thats the case she does a real shit job lol. It wasnr that bothersome but it was a little weird to have zero explanation about a major change to backstory.

Anyways i think the near side routes were fine, and arcueid and ciel are both really interesting, fun characters (though i liked arcueid infinitely more) but they definitely lacked the emotional depth the far side routes had. Honestly i knew id like kohaku and hisui as much as i do but i didnt expect to grow to love Akiha as much as i did. It is unfortunate her character is a bit weighed down by nasu's incest fetish or whatever was up with that but pushing past the weird stuff that i think she ended up my favorite character.

And pushing past the weird stuff is like. Required to read tsukihime. Though i will say the sex scenes were very easy to skip thanks tk nasu having specific music for sex lol.

I think besides the weird stuff, though, Tsukihime's major flaw is just the weakness of its themes and symbolism. Which is fine; it more than makes up for that in terms of character depth as well as entertainment quality. But after reading umineko, for example (wow bringing up umineko who would have thought) i really took away a lot of meaning and it's still something i think about in terms of symbolism and themes to this day. The lessons Tsukihime teaches are "killing is bad" and "being nice and forgiving people is good" from what i could tell (though as i let it simmer in my brain i may changs my mind) and those are the same themes as like. Stevens university lol. Again it does a grest job bringing emotional depth to shiki's decision to choose kindness and fight against his nanaya blood or what-not, it just didnt feel like i walked away a changed person like with umineko and similar works. All this does is stops it from being my favorite thing ever, but it was still really enjoyable. I don't do numeric ratings but i think id put this somewhere above steins;gate, and then lowered a bit to account for the fact that nasu was way too horny and way too weird. Which btw i loved steins gate so that means i really loved tsukihime.

Random other thoughtz:

Route ranking:

Hisui=Kohaku > Akiha > Arcueid > Ciel

Character Ranking:

Akiha > Arcueid > Hisui > Kohaku > Ciel >>> inui > yumizuka > nvnsqr chaos > SHIKI > roa(i guess).

This makes me feel mean ranking kohaku so low but honestly all of the route characters were incredible so its not that i didnt like her.

Oh right what the hell was up with sensei i thought shed be a part of the plot. Idk if its sequel bait or what but i was a little annoyed lol.

Ok i think thats it. Im sure no one read this lol but if u did thx

[teyvattery]

X1 When They're Mad at You/ When You Two Fight

Kim Yohan

Yohan being mad was a rare occurrence, so when he lost his cool and raised his voice at you during one of your misunderstandings, you walked out teary-eyed. He shocks himself as well, thinking he took it too far, and immediately follows you out of the room to apologise and talk to you calmly this time.

Kim Wooseok

He's already not that verbal, wait 'till he's mad. He'd be really really silent, but do a lot of jaw clenching. He'll be giving you the silent treatment, not really responding to whatever you say to him if he could help it, or at least use the fewest of words. He'd also probably leave you on read. If his anger's really intense he would go as far as to not see you for weeks (if you live together then he'd be staying at one of the members' homes). If you were at fault you should immediately apologise or else he would grow further from you, he doesn't like people who had a lot of pride in them, expecting him to apologise when they were the one at fault. If he was the one at fault though, he would probably give you the silent treatment but give him a day (or only hours, depending on the intensity of the fight). He'd eventually apologise and explain his side, also letting you say your side too, and come up with a solution to stop the misunderstanding/fight.

Han Seungwoo

It's probably either because of your difference in opinions or because of your immaturity. Those would be the only things that would make him mad and you don't like it when he's mad, because both of you would really feel bad of yourselves afterwards. Like, really, really bad. You both would be miserable until you two would make up, there would be no other solution because you two are responsible for each others' feelings.

Song Hyeongjun

It's usually just pouty fights, but when he gets really mad, he cries. He would try to throw an argument but then it would come out as gibberish because he'd probably be sobbing so you have no choice but to calm him down first or get out of the room annoyed. He'd try to explain himself as best as he could, and would be really frustrated at himself for crying later because he knew he was really hard to understand. After you two reconciled he would shower you with "sorry"s and hugs, and you have to assure him that you're not mad anymore or else he'll either hate himself or start crying again

Cho Seungyeon

Like Yohan, it was rare to get in a fight with Seungyeon because he was always playful, but when he does get mad, it was bad for you because you two would be so frustrated trying to get your point across each other. Because fighting was unusual for the both of you, you two would get so stressed immediately to the point he'd just say "let's just...drop this" and you would. He'd probably change topics and act like nothing happened, then once you two are relaxed and chill hours later he'd probably bring up the fight again and explain himself, letting you do so for yourself as well. You two would then smile or laugh at yourselves and at each other for being so lamely heated, resulting in even more thinner chances of getting into a fight next time.

Son Dongpyo

It wasn't hard to pick a fight with Dongpyo, you two would be consistently bantering. But when it becomes serious, Dongpyo would be someone you really don't want to be in a feud with. He'd be sarcastic and a bit mouthy, snapping remarks/comebacks at your way as often as he can—if he's really riled up you wouldn't even get the chance to talk. Obviously he wouldn't be discreet when rolling his eyes or huffing at you, especially when mocking the words you've just said or the thing you just did. Sometimes he becomes too much you end up crying and because of this, he'll feel guilty and stop. If it's his fault he'll probably go and apologise to you, saying how he "really didn't want to go that hard on you but he wasn't able to control himself(you understand of course, so you forgive him)". Says the line, "You know that I didnt mean those, right?" more often than you think

Cha Junho

Like Wooseok, he'd be terrifyingly silent throughout. In the middle of the fight, he'll try to speak of his side once but if he gets cut off, he won't bother explaining anymore and just stay silent until you finish and then leave. Will give you the silent treatment, but not to the point where he doesn't come if you text or call him for his help or whatever, or if he lives with you, he'll not go far as to leave the house for his friends'. He'll just ignore you, continue with his life like nothing had happened. This would cause you to get guilty/ticked off because he doesn't show hostility towards you, instead, he acts like he doesn't care. So in the end you'll be approaching him and apologizing, and when he thinks your apology is sincere, he will now explain his side calmly.

Nam Dohyon

(Do you really want to fight this child?)

Dohyon was your typical teenager. You two would probably have a huge fight because of something stupid(probably) and you two would both ignore each other for God knows how long. For him, it's better to ignore you when you two start raising your voices at each other, because one, you two might say words that you'll eventually regret saying later, and two, it's really bothersome and is causing him a lot of stress. Making up with Dohyon is hard and weird because he's really really vague and will come off as someone who'd be better off without you(when in reality, he isn't) because he preferred it if the one who'll apologize first is you. And then, it's weird because it's kind of like an unsaid thing. Like maybe, you'd be ignoring each other for three days and then he just messages you about a meme he saw and then you'll reply and y'all would be ok again like nothing ever happened, which of course, confuses other people a lot

Lee Hangyul

When he's mad, he'll stay silent while you throw your words at him, until maybe he reaches his breaking point and he justs snaps at you loudly, to the point where his voice overpowers yours so you won't be able to continue what you're saying and downright shut up. Because of this, you end up getting terrified to the point where when he scratches his nape irritably, you'll flinch, thinking that he'll hit you. When he notices this, though, he'll feel really bad and maybe apologize later when everything settles down.

Kang Minhee

He'd be mad but will never lose his cool. He's more level-headed than you think. While you two are in an argument, he'd be silent as you lash your side out to him(maybe casually chime in), and after you've had your fill, he'll then now start talking in a monotone about his side. Because of his way of arguing fights with him wouldn't actually last long, no matter how big. It's because it would also be a way for him to discuss the conflict and actually make out a solution. There wouldn't be no crying, hugging, or whatever because nobody got hurt in the first place, no one has said anything too bad about each other.

Lee Eunsang

Would be like Dongpyo, but like, less agressive/ruthless. Sure, he'd be rolling his eyes and visibly showing disinterest in what you're saying if he's feeling really petty. Maybe throw in a few sarcasm here and there but not to the point where he'll make you cry. He'll know when to stop, because he's only like this when he knows he's [right]. If he's in the wrong, then he'll not be too petty, he'll just say "ok sorry" after what you say and it's too brief and hushed you'll think that it's sarcasm, and that would result to misunderstanding and another fight. Making up with him isn't hard, it's either you or him approach each other with a [back]hug later, with words starting with,"I'm sorry baby, I--"