#which we know signifies transformations changes and endings

[drewmoll03]

Soo I finally got some time to read this and analyze a bit. I also used/worked with Chatgpt in the second part below to make sure I wasn’t missing anything since I never read these books.

1st thing I researched on was the room number *506* – here’s what I found:

“Angel number 506 provides you with a way out. It's an indicator that you will overcome your current circumstances as such. This is a symbol of balance, transformation, and new beginnings. "

"Angel number 506 means that you have to sacrifice your time and follow the right path as you commit yourself towards a great future. It encourages trusting the journey and maintaining focus, but also avoiding excessive attachment to material possessions."

"Breaking down 506 into its component digits (5, 0, and 6), numerology suggests that 5 represents change, freedom, and adaptability. 0 symbolizes potential and new beginnings, while 6 signifies balance and harmony.”

So obviously there’s a lot to uncover just for this bit, I'm not going to go into great detail… 

But obviously the greater journey/right path could connect to her actually surviving and then reuniting with Team family and what not. No idea about the bit mentioning ‘excessive attachment to material possessions’, if someone else does please join the analysis lol.

This number analysis lowkey also connects to what you found in the book. Particularly the Wise Servant finding something better— hence trusting the journey.

2. I have yet to watch S2 of Dead City, but yes the bear parallel to the book seems pretty suspicious to say the least. ALSO! I didn’t know this, but apparently a very commonly used dog name is…. Bear! 

3. The Glass Coffin bit of your analysis seems pretty interesting and there is definitely quite a lot of symbolism and parallels in there.. This is what I found about glass coffins: Argues that living in a glass coffin is like zombification; glass coffins were sometimes used for viewing the deceased; A glass coffin can symbolize being trapped or confined, unable to escape a situation or a state of being

Something that came to mind when I read zombification was maybe a cure or something, which is one of the most discussed theories around Beth, being on display and trapped could connect to her being left in the car.. but idk.

4. Also, the horse’s parallels are what intrigued me the most! It’s all so similar like you mentioned, to what happened with Beth, Dawn, and Noah. We also see a horse, a black one, shortly after Beth’s death. When Daryl is in Alexandria and they go out with Aron trying to look for people. “You used to be somebody’s huh? Now you’re just yours”. I’m sure someone already analyzed what that scene might mean. I mean he was obviously thinking about Beth, but yeah.

5. “After that they lived happily to the end of their lives,” (p. 28). A line also closely echoed in ‘The Glass Coffin’.

Sounds similar to something else, too.

“We can live here. We can live here for the rest of our lives.”

Yep that’s just super suspicious, I do not believe it’s a coincidence. 

So maybe I’m very much delulu, but I looked up the significance for the number 28..

''This number can represent a journey guided by intuition and the belief that everything works out as it should, even if it's not the expected outcome.''

''Matthew 28 follows the dark events of the crucifixion in the previous chapter and brings Matthew's story of Jesus to a close. An angel descends from heaven and rolls back the stone. The guards faint. The angel tells two women Jesus is risen and then Jesus meets them.''

So that’s what I got so far, now I’ll copy and paste what Chatgpt thought, and some connections it made:

Possession: A Romance” is a *literary mystery novel* about two modern scholars investigating the secret love affair between two fictional Victorian poets. Themes in Possession include:

Hidden love and forbidden relationships

Loss and resurrection (emotionally and metaphorically)

Dual timelines (past/present mirroring each other)

The power of *literature, letters, and artifacts* to reveal truth

Now, here’s how some of these could possibly connect to *Beth Greene* and *Team Delusional*:

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🔗 *Potential Beth Greene & Daryl Dixon Parallels*

1. *Hidden Affection / Unspoken Love*

In Possession, the main romantic relationship is hidden for years and only revealed through letters and clues. Many Bethyl fans argue that Daryl and Beth’s connection was *deep but unspoken* — a slow-building emotional bond that was cut off abruptly, never resolved.

This could parallel the Victorian lovers in Possession whose feelings were strong but separated by time, war, illness — or in Beth’s case, *death?* (or disappearance, per TD theories).

 2. *The Search for the Truth*

In Possession, the modern scholars go down a rabbit hole of letters and clues. *Team Delusional* has literally done this — hunting through *editing inconsistencies, interviews, symbolism, lyrics, and more — all in an effort to uncover a hidden truth: *Beth’s fate.

Just like the scholars in the novel, TD is saying: "There’s more to this story."

3. *Themes of Resurrection*

Beth's last scene involves being “lost” or “gone” — but not definitively shown dead (no burial, no aftershock). In Possession, there’s an element of emotional resurrection through discovery — *bringing the past to light. Many TD theories hinge on the idea that Beth could *resurface — through memory, twist, or literal return.

5. *Butterflies and Symbolism*

The novel Possession uses *natural and poetic symbolism* heavily (like flowers, insects, books). Team Delusional is famous for tracking *butterfly imagery, **keys, **clocks, and **songs* used in Beth scenes. Both groups look for *symbolic threads to untangle deeper truths*.

A.S. Byatt’s Possession unfolds as a layered narrative of discovery — At its heart lies the tension between what is seen and what is hidden, between *ephemeral moments of human connection* and the enduring silence that often follows them. This dynamic resonates profoundly when placed against the muted, emotionally charged arc of Beth Greene and her evolving bond with Daryl Dixon in The Walking Dead.

Beth, a character initially framed as fragile and peripheral, grows into someone defined by a quiet resilience. Her journey from despair to self-assurance mirrors, in many ways, the transformation of Byatt’s Christabel LaMotte — a poet who wrestles with voice, identity, and the limitations placed on her by external forces. Much like Christabel, Beth’s development is marked by the internalization of strength: in song, in caregiving, in moments of painful but necessary solitude. She becomes *an emotional anchor* during a time of fragmentation in the group — not through dominance or defiance, but through compassion, clarity, and calm defiance of nihilism.

In Possession, the two poets — Christabel and Randolph Ash — share a bond forged in brief encounters, letters, and the emotional weight of what is left unsaid. Likewise, Beth and Daryl's relationship is sculpted not by overt declarations, but by *subtext*: shared looks, moments of vulnerability, and rare, fleeting laughter in a world bereft of joy. Their connection is arguably the most emotionally intimate of Beth’s narrative — two survivors, each emotionally isolated in distinct ways, finding solace in each other’s presence without fully articulating its meaning.

In both Possession and The Walking Dead, there exists a narrative vacuum: a loss of female voice, a rupture in relational development, and a lingering sense that *absence does not negate impact. Beth’s exit, like Christabel’s disappearance, is not an ending in the traditional sense, but an **interruption* — a pause that invites reflection, reinterpretation, and, perhaps, a reassembly of meaning.

In this way, Beth Greene's arc can be seen not just as a tragic loss, but as a *fragmented narrative*, one that mirrors Byatt’s thematic preoccupation with the lost voices of women, the fragility of human connection, and the enduring hope that what is buried — emotionally or narratively — might yet be brought to light.

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There is quite a lot to uncover lol but yes there's definitely some great symbolism and parallels!

Grimms’ Tales, Team Delusional, A.S. Byatt

Forgive the mistakes, these are my notes for the rabbit hole I fell into.

Beth Greene is Snow White

I was clued into the parallel between the close up frame of Beth’s hand and the gun mirroring Disney’s Snow White’s limp hand and the poisoned apple after diving into Team Delusional (TD) research. A comparison you cannot unsee.

I had a copy of Grimms’ Tales from college, so I decided to read the original fairy tale of ‘Snow White’ (pp. 184-191). Unsurprisingly, tons of Beth symbolism. A huntsman sacrifices a boar, seven dwarves, three attempts on her life by the evil queen, falling down ‘seemingly dead’, and finally being put into a glass coffin only to be resurrected later.

Beth’s body being left in a car = glass coffin.

The glass coffin holds a character that is seemingly dead but not truly deceased. A theme reinforced throughout the flagship show and spinoffs with walkers in cars.

This was all happening while I was rewatching The Walking Dead (TWD), Coda (S5, E8), and I noticed they paused on Beth’s side of the hall before the exchange of hostages, and the room number next to them was clearly visible.

Room 506.

Thinking, what the heck, TD says numbers are important, I flipped my copy of Grimms’ Tales to page 506…

The page is shared between the end of ‘Snow White and Rose Red’ (pp. 501-506), and the beginning of ‘The Wise Servant’ (pp. 506-507), followed directly by ‘The Glass Coffin’ (pp. 507-512).

Well, all righty then. Coincidence. Why would TWD match a room number on screen to a book of fairy tales? 👀

Initial Notes:

Snow White and Rose Red

Snow White and Rose Red are two sisters who live with their mother in a hut. A bear, who is really a cursed prince, comes into their hut and ends up spending his nights by their hearth during the winter. A fire lit by Snow White. She will go on to marry the prince once the curse is broken.

The bear is a big symbol in TD, as far as I am aware, and @twdmusicboxmystery noted in her video about Dead City, S2, E7, how a bear made it’s way into the room with Maggie and Hershel. Then, during the action that followed, a knife was thrown, hitting the bear where Beth was shot. If Beth is Snow White, Maggie is Rose Red. There were more parallels, but I digress.

The Wise Servant

‘The Wise Servant’ is about a man who sends his wise servant, Hans, to find a lost cow. It takes forever—no Hans, no cow, so bossman goes looking for him. I found the dialogue interesting. But then, what really caught my attention, was when Hans said he didn’t look for the cow, and he found something better, “Three blackbirds,” said the servant. “And where are they?” said the master. The wise servant replied: “I see one, I hear one, and I’m chasing the third,” (p. 507).

Three Wise Monkeys reference. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

Emily Kinney’s three stuffed monkeys tweet during S5 secret filming.

The Glass Coffin

And finally, ‘The Glass Coffin’.

A tailor traveling in the wild finds shelter in an old man’s hut. A commotion between a bull (disguised old man/bad guy) and a stag wake the tailor, the stag kills the bull, then takes the tailor into the wilds, away from the world of men. He is taken to a tall wall of stone with a secret entrance at the base. When opened by the stag, the “flames poured from the doorway, followed by clouds of smoke that hid the stag from view (pp. 508-509).

Inside, the tailor comes upon two glass cases. One holds a castle, surrounded by farmhouses, stables, and barns. The other holds a beautiful maiden.

“She lay as though asleep, her long golden hair wrapped around her like a precious cloak. Her eyes were closed tight but the freshness of her face and a ribbon that moved to and fro as she breathed left no doubt that she was alive,” (p. 509).

The maiden’s eyes open, the tailor opens the case, and she uses words like prison and savior. She tells him her story.

The maiden lived in a castle with her brother. They loved each other so tenderly and were “so much alike in our thoughts and inclinations” (p. 510), they would not marry but stay together.

The maiden is Beth, but it could symbolize Carol, too, depending on the context. For Carol, the brother could then be Daryl, which is one part of my A.S. Byatt link.

A stranger comes along and was treated as a guest by the siblings. Things happen. So. Much. Symbolism. The stranger wants the girl, she says no, the stranger uses magic to turn her brother into a stag during a hunting trip.

Scared for her brother, the maiden rides out with a servant to find him, but the servant’s horse fell and broke its leg (thought immediately of Noah’s leg), and she was forced to leave him behind. She finds the stranger and learns what happened to her brother. The maiden flew into a rage “drew a pistol, and fired it at the monster, but the bullet bounced back from his chest” (p. 511), and into her horse’s head.

This is Beth and Dawn’s final confrontation. Scissors in Dawn’s chest backfired and Beth was shot in the head.

The horses’ fates parallel those of Noah and Beth.

“I fell to the ground, and the stranger mumbled a few words that made me lose consciousness. When I came to, I was in a glass coffin in this underground vault,” (p. 511).

TD’s car and resurrection theory.

With the tailor’s help, the maiden frees her home, her people, and is reunited with her brother. The girl marries the tailor.

A.S. Byatt

A.S. Byatt used Grimms’ ‘The Glass Coffin’ in Possession (1999) and The Djinn in the Nightingale's Eye (1994). These stories have really great imagery. In the old man’s hut there is a great grey dog, in Byatt’s version for example.

In Possession, two of the characters, Randolph Henry Ash and Christabel LaMotte, become intertwined to say the least. Without revealing spoilers, it could be argued that Ash and LaMotte mirror the tailor and the maiden.

In Daryl Dixon: The Book of Carol, S2, who helped Carol? Ash. His name is interesting for several reasons. Maybe Ash, in the part of the tailor, is the outside variable needed for Carol to confront her demons (to set them free so she can move on) and reunite with Daryl, ‘her brother’.

More analysis to come.

Faithful Johannes

‘The Wise Servant’ is not about Snow White but it is bookmarked between two stories related to Snow White. This led me to look up another story in the Grimms’ Tales, ‘Faithful Johannes’ (pp. 22-28). This story expands on the theme in ‘The Wise Servant’. I liked the last sentence. It ends with, “After that they lived happily to the end of their lives,” (p. 28). A line also closely echoed in ‘The Glass Coffin’.

Sounds similar to something else, too.

“We can live here. We can live here for the rest of our lives.”

-Beth Greene

Thank you for taking the time to read my post. Let me know your thoughts on my spiral into madness.

@galadrieljones @twdmusicboxmystery @wdway @frangipanilove @drewmoll03 @bookqueenrules @emsee22

[bibururokku]

Catching up with the manga during spring break after studying relentlessly only to see pairs in shambles. I feel like the community fire gif right now, LMAO.

[sunseed-fandump]

OH BOY TIME FOR ANOTHER TAROT ANALYSIS!!!!

Here's Shadow Milk Cookie's REAL cards before they were changed! Despite not having the numbers, the imagery is consistent enough and makes it easy to know which card is which!

First up we have XV - The Devil, in the upright position.

In summary, The Devil represents oppression, addiction, obsession, dependency, excess, powerlessness, and limitations.

"Getting the devil card in your reading shows that you have feelings of entrapment, emptiness and lack of fulfillment in your life. It might also mean that you are a slave to materialism and opulence and no matter how hard you try, you just can’t seem to shake off the feeling of wanting to indulge in luxurious living. You might be aware that this kind of lifestyle is leading you down the rabbit hole, but you have that feeling of not having any form of control over your actions or urges."

Second we have XIII - Death, also upright.

This card represents transformation, endings, change, transition, letting go, and release.

"Death is one of the most feared cards in a Tarot Deck, and it is very misunderstood. Many people avoid mentioning this card because it has that much power. Most times, people take the name of the card literally. However, the real meaning within the Death card is one of the most positive in the whole deck.

The Death card signals that one major phase in your life is ending, and a new one is going to start. You just need to close one door, so the new one will open. The past needs to be placed behind you, so you can focus your energy on what is ahead of you."

Lastly, we have XX - Judgement.

In the upright position it represents self-evaluation, awakening, renewal, purpose, reflection, and reckoning.

"The traditional Judgement meaning focuses on the moment when we reflect and evaluate ourselves and our actions. It is through self-reflection that we can have a clearer and objective understanding about where we are now, and what we need to do in order to grow as humans. The Judgement card appearing in a reading signifies that you are coming close to this significant point in your life where you must start to evaluate yourself.

To see this card can also indicate that you are in a period of awakening, brought on by the act of self-reflection. You now have a clearer idea of what you need to change and how you need to be true yourself and your needs. This can mean making small changes to your daily life or making huge changes that not only affect you but the people close to you."

When applied to Shadow Milk Cookie, an interpretation of these cards are hinting at a great event or change that will force him to reevaluate either himself or a decision he's made. Leading to some sort of renewal or reckoning. Now is this his actual fate? Is it hinting at a possible redemption or is he going to get hit with the karma stick in a future update leading to his demise? I'm not sure! It could swing either way.

But what about the altered cards? What was the fate Shadow Milk Cookie wanted?

Our first card in this reading is X - The Wheel of Fortune.

Upright, it means change, cycles, fate, decisive moments, luck, fortune, and unexpected events.

"The Wheel of Fortune turns evermore, seemingly to communicate that life is made up of both good and bad times, and that the cycle is one that we cannot control. It is something that is subjected to both kings and workers, and that nobody on earth can avoid what is fated. When you have good moments in your life, make sure that you enjoy to the fullest, for what comes up must always go down. The same is true in reverse - when you are in a bad situation, things will eventually become better again."

Next we have Black Sapphire Cookie as IV - The Emperor.

This card represents stability, structure, protection, authority, control, practicality, focus, and discipline.

"It’s all about control when it comes to the Emperor, for this card means authority, regulation, organization and a fatherliness. The Emperor represents a strategic thinker who sets out plans that he must see through. He is a symbol of the masculine principle - the paternal figure in life that gives structure, creates rules and systems, and imparts knowledge. Where the Empress's desire for their kingdom is to create happiness, the emperor desires to foster honor and discipline. He guides with a firm hand, following the calling of the crown above all else. Though he is a ruler, he understands that to reign is also to serve - thus he acts rationally and according to what is for the greater good of the kingdom."

Lastly we have Candy Apple Cookie, one might mistake her card for the Empress, but don't be fooled! Due to the distinct symbolism of the black and white pillars behind her, I firmly believe that she's actually II - The High Priestess!

This card represents unconscious, intuition, mystery, spirituality, higher power, and an inner voice.

"The meaning of the High Priestess is related with inner knowledge. Her appearance in a reading can signify that it is time for you to listen to your intuition rather than prioritizing your intellect and conscious mind...

The card itself shows a night-time scene, meaning that the world in which she protects and guards is one that may at first seem frightening, but has the potential to lead us into the growth of the self. When she appears in a reading, she is calling to you to listen to her message, and follow her into your own depths. There is searching within yourself to be done for the answers that you seek. The answers to the questions you have are within, not without."

What do these cards mean when put together?

An ever shifting troubled fate leading to the establishment of a ruler or mentor figure followed by listening to this mentor's message and guidance towards a new outlook/enlightenment.

I think, with this reading, Shadow Milk Cookie is sort of hint-hint nudge-nudging at PV again. Basically more of his "join me and i'll lead you to a better world. i'm destined to guide you." sorta gaslighting BS.

Sorry for the long post. All and all, these are both very interesting readings!

[hot-astrology]

The Aqaurius Mind: Pluto in Aquarius, Age of Aqaurius, and 2024

The recent events surrounding Katt Williams have stirred my interest, though this event barely scratches the surface of the cosmic workings. The year 2024 portends a great unraveling, as deciphered through its numerology (8) : the influence of Pluto looms over this year, with its placement in Aquarius.

This year's fixed energies signal transformation (Aquarius and Scorpio) and raw power (Taurus and Leo), with Uranus and Jupiter in Taurus and Pluto in Aquarius. The impact of the fixed signs will be significant and profound.

Saturn's presence in Pisces heralds a great awakening. ;I am reminded of my own natal Saturn in the 12th house, which imbues this area of spirituality with discipline and authenticity.Saturn brings discipline and realness to this area of spirituality. And this is what we will see happening for those who are already tapped in. For those who are not this is another great chance similar to 2020 to awaken.

Turning to Vedic astrology, Saturn is positioned in Aquarius this year. In 2020, this was such a huge alignment the only difference is there won't be a great conjunction. But I could see similar potency already. With certain things being spoken about, and if you haven't heard. It's because the government (Saturn) is trying to hide (pisces) a lot of this information away from society. We are fully in the age of aquarius, and things will only continue to get exposed. And no matter how much certain authorities try to hide or stop it. It won't stop until the FULL truth is revealed. No matter how many people are killed, and etc. More and more will keep popping up until the mission is done.

Now switching to tarot, because this is how I connect a lot of my dots. The 21st card (The world card); This card consists of a lion (leo), an eagle (scorpio), a human (Aqaurius), and a bull (Taurus) We see all of these energies being pulled towards us. The world card is the very last card in the tarot deck and represents completion. Now, I would like to turn this over to venuz because he knows more about the cycles and years and stuff. But, I do, I want to also talk about the 10th card in tarot. This is the wheel of fortune. This card signifies karma, destiny, and fate. The cycle of life. This card also resembles the world card but not in a way where things are ending. It shows how life goes on & on. This card also has The Lion, The Bull, The Human, and The Eagle. The four corners of the world/ The angels of the four directions. We see how that number 4 is so significant. These are cycles, and fixed is the last stage. Beyonce was right, America really does have a problem...... The Seal has been broken. ☺ Now, to you venuz.

Cycles......Yes, cycles! Everything evolves in cycles and changes, it's only so long you can stay in the same scenario or comfort zone without chaos knocking at your door. Aquarius is all about change and revolutionizing its surroundings and its people. This energy is at its boiling point. Every 20 years there's a recurrent cycle of same-aged groups with specific behaviors that change. So, if you add 3 more cycles to that it will be a 4 cycle switch, which every generation would affect the other. When the 80-year mark comes around it is a crucial period. Everything is done in cycles, it doesn't matter what it is. Saturn in Pisces will materialize everything you think of, or focus on. This will also bring about what you have been hiding, and not speaking. Thoughts of your subconscious will be brought to the surface, and some will have to face those fears. For Example, Katt Williams has known all of these lies, secrets, backstabbing, cheating, phony, and false allegations, so it's being materialized. All his thoughts, dreams, and deep-rooted issues about other comedians came out to the forefront without any care. As he spoke and exposed their behaviors in front of millions (mass 11th house) and demanded a change (pluto). This calls on the energy of Pluto in Aquarius.

Pluto in Aquarius loves erratic behavior and unexpected scenarios. Pluto comes with a punch and is at full throttle here. Many people are outspoken now and about change and freedom. Aquarius is all revolutionary and Pluto is a generational planet so change is bound to come. This is just the beginning of this world being destroyed and reconstructed into a new and profound system that isn't in line with these new powerful souls. This makes an 80-year period. 10 more years from now will make 90 years which is energy 9 which will be the completion of a major cycle. 8 is just the transformation period and reconstructing period, everything and everyone who wasn't living in their own essence and misusing their fortune, fame and financial abundance in a non conducive manner will reverse roles and be exposed for their inequality.

Like gorgeous Moon Devi said they're trying to hide what they're up to but Saturn in Pisces is revealing everything they have been hiding. So everyone wakes up to all those lies, takes off the rose-colored glasses, no more fantasy land, and is in a delusional state of mind. Pluto in Aquarius will allow everyone to have a voice and speak up, change what's not right, and stand for something even if you never did your whole life. If you were born in this era or if you were born to still be alive in this era get ready for the showdown. If watched in Living Color, this movie promises to be a captivating experience, delivering the answers to long-standing questions and revealing hidden truths. It has the potential to evoke personal fears, making them tangible and forcing introspection. It's a crucial time for everyone, not just celebrities or elites, to focus on self-healing, purification of the soul, and actualizing personal aspirations. Astrologically, the influence of Aquarius, which rules the 11th house of hopes and aspirations, and Pluto provides the necessary impetus to transform negative situations into positive ones, for oneself and the greater good.

However you envision your world to be, you will get the results in this transit. Imagine yourself as a kid at the art table, and you have a box of crayons, an blank piece of paper. The teacher tells you to draw your new world. How would you create it? Would it consist of peace, prosperity, and love? Then she says," Stand up in front of the class, and explain what your world looks like." You say it out loud in front of the class with conviction and power. Then you close your eyes and watch it manifest right before you, VOILA!!! 

From two aqaurius/uranus dominant spirits, ~ Prinz Venuz & Moon Devi

𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐭

𝐎𝐮𝐫 𝐏𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐏𝐨𝐬𝐭

𝑶𝒖𝒓 𝑷𝒂𝒈𝒆𝒔: 𝐏𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐳 𝐕𝐞𝐧𝐮𝐳 𝐌𝐨𝐨𝐧 𝐃𝐞𝐯𝐢

[eueuphoriaz]

This is something I have been thinking about after watching a video of a Japanese fan analysing if Eren had told Hange about his Rumbling plan. There, they made reference to this panel in the manga.

So apparently, these memory shards from Eren (Chap 130 if I remember correctly), are what he saw of the future when he kissed Historia's hand.

Now, we can match these memory shards in Eren's perspective with the events that happened after that, except for the one with Falco and Hange.

I had been very curious why the perspective of Falco is that of the bird flying across him, which was the opening scene for Season 4.

There, Falco had some memories of the Survey corps in the Paradise.

Of course, anime-wise, it could be a bridge for story continuation. But if I think of possible intention from the author in the manga, it could also mean some form of contact with Eren, whether it is in human form or via the Paths, or some form of contact that is not shown. I do not think that he transformed into the bird and thats why the perspective of Falco is as such, but likely he made contact with him via the Path while Falco is lying down injured.

So, what about the one with Hange. In that video, a few points were brought up:

1) Hange was wearing her cape, meaning she was in combat state when the contact with Eren happened

2) She was depicted with the eye-patch and without goggles or glasses. Now, the analysis shared that it could be an emotional meeting (cos Isayama did mention that Hange view the world via her glasses which acts as a filter to her inner emotions), one where Eren told Hange that she is going to die. And Hange, knowing Eren's helplessness and what is going to happen gets emotional.

3) The video then conclude that Eren did meet up with Hange in the Paths and discussed his plans with her. It was also observed that both Eren and Hange concluded that the Rumbling happen because Eren is an idiot (not because he wanted to save Humanity, Paradise Island or his friends).

So, when did Eren possibly met up with Hange?

This question has been bugging me for a while, and here are my take on Eren's memory shard of Hange.

1) Suppose he met up with Hange via the Path, like with Falco, then the timeline would be when she is wearing the cape.

2) Now, we know that Hange was taken by Floch and the Jeagerists to see Shadis first. She was not wearing the cape then. Thereafter, when she led Floch to find Levi ans Zeke, she was in her cape. And glasses.

Now, it is likely that she didnt get to change to her goggles, or that after being Commander, she started to wear her glasses more. But I thought it was significant because the glasses kind of signify the non-combative side of Hange in this situation.

Anyway, thinking in terms of the timeline, there is this cut of Eren which caught my attention.

3) This scene was after the scenes where Eren pushed away Armin and Mikasa, Zeke screamed and Levi commenced his fight with him, and Hange on the way to bring Floch to Zeke after Shadis got bullied by Floch.

One can also think that he is just waiting. But I feel that at this moment, Eren know that his end is inevitable.

If I think on a very broad perspective, Eren has already laid his chess pieces for both the Rumbling and the Alliance to stop the Rumbling. He has:-

- Keep Armin, Mikasa and the 104 safe by locking them in the cell

- Separated Levi and Zeke cos he needed Zeke to activate the Rumbling.

So, the unknown factor here is if Levi can survive Zeke's suicide explosion. Because Levi is also important in ending his life towards the end. He needed Levi to be alive, and the only thing he needed to make sure is that someone can find and save him.

4) So this is where I think Eren connected with Hange via the Paths and let her know about the future. I also believe that he wanted to know the determination of Hange to find and save Levi, while putting her life at risk, similar to how he may have connected with Falco, who also played an important part in the Marley arc of the story. He needed these important pieces to move his next step.

So I think that Hange and Eren had a heated discussion and that is where we see an emotional Hange in the memory shard. And I think that is why both of them concluded, he is just an idiot who is helpless against all the things that will happen.

(Levihan lens is on!!)

So I do think that Eren, once knowing that Hange will go all out to save Levi, then erased her memory and the sequence of events followed as what was depicted. This is because he knows that when Hange sees a mortally wounded Levi, she will make a decision that is driven by her feelings that she hide deeply, or not even aware of until she realises it. It could also be her response knowing that Levi could die because of the explosion.

5) So, why do I say that Hange's intention is important? Why didnt he let Hange know when he was in the cell and doing his very cool hairdo? I feel that he is waiting for triggers that would signify the next steps. And all these are not in his control. Like Floch is the one making sure his plans work, so he can only rely on Floch when he is in jail. Same thing, he needed to rely on Hange to reach the final scene that he sees in the future memories, whether it is saving Levi or forming the Alliance.

6) I believe that he wanted to make sure that Zeke is alive. But with Founder Ymir repairing the Titan that Zeke ripped apart and then sending that Titan to revive Zeke, I think this is something he realised that his future's death may not happen because if Zeke is alive and Levi died, Eren will not die at Mikasa's hands without Levi's help.

That memory shard of Hange could well represent something else totally. But it will be so interesting to think, what did happened in that memory of Eren's with Hange that she is so flustered and emotional.

[eowyntheavenger]

Ram’s costumes in RRR, part 2

(You can read part 1 here.)

When Ram tortures Bheem, he’s still wearing the red uniform, which is SUCH a powerful visual choice for this scene and had to be 1000% intentional.

It really stands out against the tans, browns and greens of the background. It draws attention to Ram in what ends up being an extremely pivotal scene for him.

I also think the red could signify a lot of different things here.

The first is danger. Ram is a danger to Bheem.

It could also be a symbol of Ram’s heart, his emotional pain.

Blood: the red uniform visually links him to the blood on Bheem’s clothes.

Guilt: Ram literally has Bheem’s blood on his hands.

I just have to say THIS SCENE BRINGS ME SO MUCH PAIN! BHEEM! MY GENTLE SWEET BELOVED BHEEM

THIS BREAKS MY HEART

And it breaks Ram’s, too, but he goes through with it anyway. Then he finally sees that he was wrong: the people rise up even without guns. They become weapons. AND IT’S SO AMAZING AND IT GIVES ME CHILLS EVERY TIME I LOVE KOMURAM BHEEMUDO

As the men carry Bheem away, Ram’s red uniform ties him to Bheem and sets him apart from the other police. Now it signifies both Ram’s change of heart and the bloodshed that he’s caused.

In the next scene, he’s wearing the white shirt that we saw before.

It symbolizes his rejection of the uniform and what it represents, although he has to keep wearing it afterwards to carry out his plan to save Malli and Bheem.

This CANNOT be my imagination. The red is linking him to Bheem!

But Bheem doesn’t know about the change he’s undergone—for him, the uniform is a visual symbol of Ram’s allegiance to the British.

The red and white make such a powerful contrast in this scene! Ram, the torturer. Bheem, the innocent man he’s harmed. But Bheem spares him anyway!!!!!

THE GRIEF, THE LONGING IN HIS EYES!!!!!!!!!

In prison, Ram is in plain clothes again. His beard and hair growing long takes away another visual cue linking him to the British. He finally knows who he is—there’s no internal conflict anymore.

But he’s also injured, covered in blood and in visible pain. It works so well visually, as well as in the story, for him to be broken down like this before what comes next.

Because OF COURSE Bheem rescues him. I’M SORRY. JUST. THIS MOMENT!!!!!!!!! THE LOVE IN BHEEM’S HEART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holding hands as we escape the British

And then we come to the reason I wrote this entire post in the first place: because after Bheem carries him to safety, heals him, dresses him and marries him for a second time, we see THIS:

THE MOST AMAZING TRANSFORMATION OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!! Ram is free. Everything’s been leading up to this. No Western clothing to be seen. Bheem has literally deified him as the god Rama. The holy thread is back. He has a strap across his chest, which in some ways echoes the uniform, but it’s to hold his quiver. He’s wearing orange, the color of fire, symbolizing how he’s finally becoming who he’s supposed to be! This scene would NOT have had the same impact without this visual design. The long hair and beard are so different from how he first appeared in the movie, and they were NECESSARY for this to work. And he looks incredibly, jaw-droppingly sexy.

You might even say drop-dead gorgeous, because he and Bheem start slaughtering the British AS THEY DESERVE.

I don’t make the rules, THAT’S JUST HOT.

My favorite thing is that Bheem literally created this look, because he has excellent taste. Is it gay to dress your friend as the god Rama?

HUSBANDS

[youryurigoddess]

Maggie’s pendants and good omens

Yes, you’ve read it right. This post is going to deal with some literal good omens, not just title drop! But first things first, let’s take a closer look at the topic of this analysis.

A toucan

The top necklace is a lovely design involving a crowned toucan — believed to be a messenger of gods able to travel between the spiritual and the physical world, often associated with rain and rainbow (a Christian symbol of divine love, grace, and mercy, a reminder of the covenant between God and humanity to spare the latter from future trials like the Flood) — encircled by a gold band (a symbol of infinity, eternal love and promise) spun by a small butterfly (a symbol of transformation, hope, and rebirth). All three symbols combined seem to deliver a divine message of hope for rebirth, possibly resurrection, and the eternal life. Very fitting in the context of the Second Coming.

The fact that toucans were revered by the native South Americans as rainbringers strengthens the symbolic meaning of another type of bird we can spot on Maggie’s clothes in the very first episode, as her character introduction — a swallow. Swallows flying low are also believed to be harbingers of rain and bad weather. If you see one close to Earth or a building, it means that there’s a storm — or a certain biblical tempest — on the horizon.

In Ancient Greece and Rome swallows were representing Aphrodite, goddess of love. In Christianity they were considered to be of God and symbolized hope, awakening, and revival of life as messengers of spring and protectors from winter colds. Also helped Jesus on the Cross — according to a Christian legend, a group of swallows was supposed to take out the thorns from the Crown of Thorns and alleviate His Passion on the Cross. Humans banding together in the name of good have been a big theme in the series ever since The Them made an appearance, and from what we already know about the unpublished Good Omens sequel, we can assume that Jesus is going to take the spotlight in the upcoming season.

Maggie definitely attracts sudden inexplicable weather changes, like a thunderstorm with weirdly localized lightning strikes or a sudden downpour. And we’re still waiting for some vavooming (and the following happy ending) to happen in S3.

A heart with an eye

Now, the more nuanced clue hidden in the bottom necklace. I know that some of us were trying to tackle the concept of Maggie’s eye in a heart pendant suggesting her Masonic connotations, but this symbol (or the Eye of Providence in general) isn’t strictly Masonic, it isn’t even limited only to Judeo-Christian art. And while it is used a lot in Christian iconography, we should focus on a very specific example of it already referenced in the show.

Buckle up, we’re making a parachute dive into S1.

It seems like our old friend, Agnes Nutter, still has our backs.

Prophecy 4020:

Let the wheel of fate turne, let harts enjoin, there are othere fyres than mine; when the whirl wynd whirls, reach oute one to another.

If you look closely at the bottom right corner of this frame, you will see that as an illustration for the above prophecy the production team chose a 1611 engraving titled The Minde should have a fixed Eye On Objects, that are plac’d on High first found in Gabriel Rollenhagen’s Nucleus emblematum selectissimorum.

In 1635 it was published in A Collection of Emblemes, Ancient and Moderne Quickened With Metrical Illustrations, both Morall and Divine, Etc by George Wither with the accompanying hymn:

A Heart, which bore the figure of an Eye

Wide open to the Sunne; by some, was us'd,

When in an Emblem, they would signifie

A Minde, which on Celestiall Matters mus'd:

Implying, by the same, that there is nought

Which in this lower Orbe, our Eyes can see,

So fit an Object for a manly thought,

As those things, which in Heav'n above us be.

God, gave Mankinde (above all other Creatures)

A lovely Forme, and upward-looking Eye,

(Among the rest of his peculiar Features)

That he might lift his Countenance on high:

And (having view'd the Beauty, which appeares

Within the outward Sights circumference)

That he might elevate above the Sphæres,

The piercing Eye, of his Intelligence.

Then, higher, and still higher strive to raise

His Contemplations Eyes, till they ascend

To gaine a glimpse of those eternall Rayes,

To which all undepraved Spirits tend.

For, 'tis the proper nature of the Minde

(Till fleshly Thoughts corrupt it) to despise

Those Lusts whereto the Body stands inclin'd;

And labour alwayes, upward to arise.

Some, therefore, thought those Goblins which appeare

To haunt old Graves and Tombes, are Soules of such,

Who to these loathsome places doomed were,

Because, they doted on the Flesh too much.

But, sure we are, well-minded Men shall goe

To live above, when others bide below.

And hey, guess what 4020, i.e., the number of the prophecy, symbolizes in Strong’s Concordance? Periergazomai, a Greek word meaning “to waste one's labor about something” — to meddle, going beyond proper boundaries (where a person doesn't belong); to fixate on what others are doing, instead of doing what the person himself is supposed to do.

It appears only once in the Bible:

2 Thessalonians 3:11: We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies. Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat. And as for you, brothers and sisters, never tire of doing what is good.

To make things slightly more interesting, in the Hebrew version of Strong’s Concordance 4020 has another meaning — migbaloth, meaning “twisted things, i.e. cords”. Which doesn’t make much sense until we read the actual passage:

Exodus 28:24 and two chains of pure gold, twisted like cords; and you shall attach the corded chains to the settings.

And compare it to the most recent post on the topic published directly by Word of God:

What if all these clues didn’t apply to Maggie and Nina, but Aziraphale and Crowley instead? What if Maggie served as a messenger — consciously or not — just like the toucan, delivering the prophecy to those who need it most?

“When the tempest comes and darkness and great storms, and the dead will leave their graves and walk the Earth once more and there will be great lamentations for the end is near, don’t lose hope, hold hands and look up.”

Basically what Aziraphale and Crowley already did when they performed the 25 Lazarii miracle, only with no interference from Gabriel this time around.

And, if both Strong’s Concordance and Maggie’s personal addition to her second pendant are to be believed, with a wedding band somehow involved in the process.

[numinously-yours]

How will you get through this difficult time? Pick a group tarot reading

This week we will explore how you can make it through the difficult time you may be experiencing right now. Choose which group calls to you the most and see your reading below:

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Group 1:

Cards - The World reversed, Nine of Pentacles reversed, Queen of Cups with Eight of Wands as your overall energy.

Starting with the overall energy, the main theme of moving through this difficult time is to stop resisting. Go with the flow. Things feel like they’re moving too fast and you can’t get a handle on them, but sometimes there are things you can’t grab onto. Focus on a single goal at a time to prevent too much overwhelm.

The other cards reiterate this. In reverse, the World signifies that you are looking to complete a big goal. All these moving parts feel like they’re getting in the way of you accomplishing this goal. They’re distracting and frustrating which fogs up the purpose of your end goal. Take a breath, reimagine your goal & ways to get there, then push forward. Thinking through the nine of pentacles reversed, the distractions may be making you feel like reaching your goal is pointless. “Maybe I’m not meant to achieve good things.” YOU ARE! Finally, the queen of cups reminds you to practice some self-compassion and empathy. Going with the flow will intrinsically slow your mind and create some clarity. Take as many breaths as you need to to feel at peace.

Group 2:

Cards - Five of Wands reversed, Four of Swords reversed, The World, and an overall energy of The Hermit reversed

You are resisting something and I’m not even sure if you know what’s being resisted. You have been frustrated, stressed, and burnt out. You have this overall feeling of “BLAH”. You just want to withdraw, take a nap, and hope that the feeling is gone when you wake up. This probably isn’t the insight you’re looking for, but the best way to get through this is to really pin-point where the feeling(s) is/are coming from. The first step is to create space and time for yourself to do some introspection. Don’t just take time to yourself and do mindless tasks. Actually take some time to figure out what is going on internally. You can start this by doing shadow work question or pick up a piece of paper and write down everything you’re feeling. It doesn’t need to make sense, just write. Sometimes as you start writing things out, you also start seeing the connections you didn’t know were there. Something else that could be important to write down is all of the ways you’re enjoying your life. These gross feelings can be so overwhelming that we forget the small bits of sunshine. Reminding yourself of these more often can help keep the bad feelings at bay and the good ones at the forefront. Doing this type of soul searching will put your, well, soul at ease.

Group 3:

Cards - King of Swords, The Tower reversed, The Hermit reversed, and Queen of Swords reversed for the overall energy.

The very first thing that I want to say it “Be the bitch you think you’d be if you took care of yourself instead of others.” Soo that might be an overall feeling you’re having right now lol All of these cards want you to take care of YOU. Do what is good for YOU. Make changes for YOU. It’s probably nerve-racking because you don’t want to lose people you love. You don’t want anyone to think you’re abandoning them. But, the cliché is true: the people meant to be in your life will be with you every step of the way. If you lose anyone, they weren’t supposed to be a part of this next chapter. I definitely feel like your transformation has been underway for a little bit and up next are some of the bigger steps you need to take. That also makes sense why it is scary right now! Per the reversed tower, growth and transformation are going to make their way into your life whether you do the work or not. Once you take this leap of faith, you are going to feel SO powerful. Your path is going to become clearer – or at least less scary because you have the courage to keep pursuing it. It’s going to feel so amazing.

Group 4:

Lots of cards! Six of Pentacles w/ Ace of Swords, Queen of Wands w/ Three of Swords, the King of Wands, and finally the Page of Cups for an overall energy.

Unlike the previous groups, your difficulty feels more positive. I don’t mean this in a way that says, “Why do you find it difficult?” . It’s that there is a good opportunity presenting itself to you and you don’t know how you’re supposed to decide what to do with it . You’re in a comfortable place in your life. You are secure, you have a good team on your side, and you’ve always had a vision for where your life would be going. This new opportunity is throwing a wrench in a plan you’ve had for a long time. But you know that it’s not a bad opportunity, should you take it. So how do we work through that? I think the very first thing to do is take others’ emotions out of the decision. Think about what will make YOU feel that you’re on the best path. Looking at your current situation next to the new opportunity, ask yourself: which prospect makes you feel more alive when you think about it? Which gives you a chance for creative liberty? Does one provide more success (however you define it) than the other? You hold the power to make your vision a reality – whether it’s the vision you already have or the vision this new opportunity shows you.

[chirpsythismorning]

Still going down the Surfer Boy number rabbit hole and it's getting fucking weird.

Basically I wanted to confirm that the number was visible on merchandise that is still dropping, specifically that Transformers collaboration because I heard about it vaguely, but didn't actually look at it myself to confirm.

And what I discovered is that the number changed...

Original number: 805-45-PIZZA

New number: 775-38-PIZZA

Now, when I saw this I was like SHIT this new number must mean that the original isn't important because apparently they had no problem changing it and leaving it unaccounted for.

But then I called the new number...

And low and behold it's the exact same voice. And mind you this voice is unrecognizable, like it doesn't sound like any automated voice I've ever heard before.

This is actually insane because tbh I did feel like I was reaching on that post yesterday where I talked about how the current message, which comes off like Netflix stopped paying the bill and the number is just unassigned now, could actually be a fake message with some sort of intention behind it.

And it appears that since these two numbers have the exact same voice and even use similar words... it is indeed intentional.

But what's even more crazy is the new message itself...

Current message for the original number:

The phone number you just dialed is available. 2499

Current message for the new number:

The phone number you just dialed has already been assigned to a customer and is parked at numbers dot m-e

Just for some clarity, if you want to check the message for the new number yourself please do. I am 97% certain that is what it says, but the very end I'm not as certain about. I would assume the word dot being used here signifies a period? But it sounds like after that is spells out the word me? So it's technically numbers.me?

I looked that up and it seemed like a dead end, just some telephone number solutions company.

Sort of leaving that part undetermined because I could be wrong about what it says.

What is noteworthy about this new message though is that it contrasts the original. The original number was referred to as 'available'. But the new number 'has already been assigned to a customer' and is 'parked'?

The message itself does sort of align with what people were probably expecting when they called the number after buying the transformer? Because they put it on there knowing people would call it and expect a message on the other end, and so it obviously had to match this idea of it being a pizza place answering. Which makes the customer and parking mentions make it seem like a pick up order or something?

But considering the original number's message has changed, and for some reason includes a mention of the number 2499 at the end, slightly off from the original 4992, I'm curious about what all these references to numbers being available vs. assigned and also changing could possibly mean?

We may know now that the original number is in fact a real (fake) message, and yet I still don't feel that much closer to cracking it.

What the hell is the original message hinting at? And what does this new message maybe add to it?

[letmeoutofthebasementt]

Heeseung Birth Time Speculation

Welcome back to pt.08392 of things I’m oddly passionate about: Heeseung’s birth time!

I will preface this by saying I’m not Heeseung or any of his affiliates I don’t know his rising this is my very passionate speculation. If I see anyone trying to push this as fact like “Oh Avina said” I will find and choke slam you.

Also this is highly unserious but also highly serious.

Now, this isn’t me trying to push “Heeseung x rising” agenda. No, this is me trying to push Heeseung Libra sun, mercury, moon, Venus agenda. Or at least Sun, Mercury, moon agenda.

So, if you step into my office you will find it he’s born at any point past 8:43 PM he’ll have full libra big 6 except his mars and rising. And at any time after 2:27 PM he’ll have the same but a Virgo Venus.

Now, you may be wondering, why are you so convinced he has these placements?

BECAUSE I myself have and have known many many people with a Libra sun, Venus, Mercury, and moon. And from what I’ve seen Heeseung fits the vibes very very well.

Now, Heeseung isn’t someone I follow very closely if at all. BUT, every time I see him I get this vibe.

Is this me trying to manifest an idol with similar placements to me?

Honestly, probably.

But that’s not the point.

SO, if you look at Heeseung what sticks out to you?

His hair and his charisma.

NOW, what ascendant has good hair and charisma?

That’s right, Leo.

And I know many Leo risings who present similar energy.

Now, what time on his birthday would he have a Leo rising? That’s right, PRECISELY 11:59 PM and no earlier.

Heeseung has 7 letters. 7 is a prime number, often associated with spirituality and mysticism. Heeseung is also associated with the “rising star”. 11:59 is a time that signifies the end of a cycle, a transition point. Perhaps Heeseung was born at a time of spiritual renewal or a new chapter in his life, marking the end of one phase and the beginning of another. CONVENIENTLY, this could be 11:59 because of the fact that he was born right before the time change into another day.

7 is often associated with perfection and luck. If we add the digits of 11 and 59, we get 1+1+5+9 = 16. 16 is a number that symbolizes harmony and balance. Being born at 11:59, a time of transition and new beginnings, aligns with Heeseung's destined path of balance and perfection. And you know what rules balance? That’s right, Libra.

What’s associated with the 7th house? LIBRA.

What is the 7th house associated with? Partnerships. Who’s in a boy group with many close ties? HEESEUNG.

Coincidence? Probably. But maybe not.

If we flip Heeseung we get Seunghee which loosely means bright victory. What’s bright and victorious? LEO.

If we switch 11:59 around we get 91:51. If we subtract those we get 40. What’s one of the meanings of 40? Transformation. 11:59 is the transformation into another day. If you add 7 to that, what do you get? 47. That represents your hard work aligning with spiritual growth.

He happens to be an idol. What do you get when you add 91+51? 142. What’s 142 divided by 2.2903225806? That’s right, 62. It’s a Libra lucky number for your career. Heeseung has a successful career.

AND SO, as you can see, Heeseung clearly has a Leo rising born at 11:59. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, he has a Libra sun, moon, mercury, and Venus. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

(This was so stupid)

[loveroflolth]

i was thinking a bit this morning how zero was born in a dying broken world and so her mother taught her to close her heart off to survive it because that’s all you can do when you only have the ability to survive! and all she knows is how to kill, really. she’s a fighter. all she is is violence, to herself & others, though parts of her kindness still live which you can see through her interactions.

i don’t think she likes violence at all it’s just all she has and even in zero’s domain & toward ciriatto/friend (i forgot name) she displays this restrained passive curiosity.

are we not as WoL also seeking love despite despite despite. zero’s expertise is in death that is what her mother taught her and all she knows but she wants more and that is so fucking mortal! she’s death but death is change, in arcana. it’s never an ending, but a change.

i love zero final fantasy (the very specific version that exists in my head as a symbol of the death arcana signifying a spiritual change, transformation of selfhood, a severance of the rot in you).

[twilightofthesandwiches]

My homie I have amazing news. In one of Finn's past lives he was a butterfly. Fionna is probably dreaming of one of her past lives. Like yeah I know dream analysis and stuff and the shwo is very deep. But maybe it's just a cute easter egg.

Okay, I was actually totally planning to add a lil thing in the tags of that post that I was like "hmmm or maybe it can also be related to Finn's past life as a butterfly" but then I, like, had a brainfart and forgot about it lol??? I literally don't know what happened there, honestly.

But also, there is a reason I only meant to leave this idea as a little-side-addendum in the tags - because I don't consider it very likely at all right now. First and foremost because, yeah, one of Finn's past life was a butterfly - but that doesn't necessarily mean anything about Fionna.

I mean, we know that the F&C verse sometimes flips around characters' species. For Glob's sake, literally the second-most important character in this universe is a cat whose Mainverse counterpart is a dog! As far as we know, Fionna's past life could've been a maggot or a Kiwi bird!

Also, an important thing to remember here is that Fionna isn't having this dream alone. Cake is ALSO dreaming with her

While it's been kinda implied that Finn and Jake keep reincarnating as best bros throughout their lives and maybe you can extrapolate that would be true of Fionna and Cake as well. But there's nothing in this little visual that could be a 'companion' to the butterfly so I think it's worth asking.... why is Cake dreaming of Fionna's past life as well?

Also, I would buy the idea this was just "Fionna dreaming of her past lives" more if, like, the first episode's title sequence showed her dreaming of a shooting star or a pink slime or a genderswapped version of Shoko or anything else also related to Finn's past lives. But instead what we had was this:

What seems to be a simplified version of the Hotel from her dream sequence at the start of the episode (note the little beach chair on top). I mean, if Finn has a comet I guess Fionna's past life could be a building but... yeah I'm pretty sure that's just the hotel from the dream. It seems like the emerging pattern is Fionna dreaming about a location from the episode at each Ending Title Sequence.

Because the most important thing is that Fionna in the EP2 ending isn't just dreaming of a random butterfly....

That Butterfly is sitting on the MASK WORN BY THE 'EVIL BEAR' FROM THAT SAME EPISODE.

So Fionna is dreaming explicitly of a butterfly flying around in the Heart of Ooo. So if THIS is her past life that actually has far more Lore Implications than if the dream is just symbolic of the series' themes.

And you know, I was just kinda spitballing with that "Zhuang Zhou Dreams of Being a Butterfly" thingy. I still think there's something there especially with Fionna dreaming of Ice King and Ice King dreaming of Fionna but... there's a lot of interesting thematic meanings you can take from the butterfly if you don't insist on refusing to engage with it for silly reasons.

The aforementioned 'Butterfly Effect' concept is one. But you can also look at more general symbolism associated with butterflies. Such as Freedom (which is, when you get down to it, what Fionna is dreaming about more than anything) or Change and Transformation. You know, kinda like how the ending of this episode signified an important Change in the status que of both of our main leads?

And Transformation is a HUGE theme in this particular episode. You know, Simon's struggle of having being transformed into Ice King and now back to Simon again and how much it messed up his sense of identity? Or how his trauma Changed him? Or how he has a hard time coping with the Changes in his life and the world in general?

We'll probably need more than two episodes to really see what the pattern is with the ending titles and thus more reliably speculate on What Could It Mean. But with the information we have, I don't think it was just Fionna dreams of her past life. And even if it is, I think it's silly to totally discard all the thematic possibility of the butterfly. There's a reason why didn't just dream of being a Pink Slime, after all.

(edited to remove a factual error because I made a point about Fionna's surname not being related to Finn but forgot that was Minvera's name lol)

[ichinoue]

"Well guys, it's 2023 and here's another dolt ranting about pronouns in the lust arc, just like the IH Fail essay that ended up being a fail in and of itself."

No its 2023 and people are deciding to keep ot real with you instead of deluding themselves and changing fhe narrtive to cater to a ship.

Respectfully, lets not speak on a language we dont know shit about, lmao.

Ichigo omits the pronoun when he tells rukia 'i've come to save you' in soul society that's because he was literally speaking to her, had been bickering with her from the previous page and had already told her he was there to rescue her back on the bridge - so he didn't need to specify to her 'who' he'd come to save: this is a typical example of "japanese omitting pronouns because they're obvious"

in the lust arc, ichigo is quite literally unconscious and unaware of his surroundings: in order to make it clear to the readers that ichigo recognized orihime, a pronoun (actually not even, he should have used her damn name like ichigo always did when he thought about rukia in ss) **needed** to be there without it, especially coupled with the fact that he speaks in broken japanese from that moment to the end of his transformation (i.e. he uses a mix of kanji and katakana, the latter of which is only used for foreign words, robots or - in bleach's case - hollows, and usually to signify that the speaker is just muttering sounds and doesn't understand the actual meaning of what they're saying), and the fact that he literally quite literally proceeds to throw orihime off the dome with absolutely no care for her well being, it's damn obvious that he had no idea who was yelling at him, he was only aware of the fact that someone was asking for help and got triggered by the word 'save'

"I mean this is just hilarious to me. Here's Orihime and Ichigo, literally placed together in side by side panels as Ichigo continues to chant about protecting...And ichiruki shippers are like, "hmmm well, it's not super clear who he's talking about because there's no pronoun so...I guess we'll never know 🤷‍♀️."

So being places together in panels side by side means he's referring to her? May I remind u he's just raised from the dead, and orihime is shocked as she processes what's happening. Those panels were to emphasise that. Not only have u attempted to educate me on the Japanese language and failed, you've now tried to say side by side panels somehow equates to the fact that he's referring to her? 💀.

"You think Kubo drew this^ entire page, at such a pivotal moment, to show that Orihime's...wrong? Like some sort of gag? She's just *imagining* that Ichigo rose up for her, but it's not actually true? That's...certainly an interesting way to interpret things lmao."

This was orihimes own perception of the situation. Orihime isn't a fact page, she's her own charecter with her own dialogue and thought. The fact she perceived it that way doenst mean its the case. She didn't imagine anything, it jsut looked that way too her, may I remind you she was the one screaming. She knows she's the person the screams belong too, ichigo doesn't. So of course she's gonna think it's here fault, common sense people.

You also proceeded to bring more asspulls and try and say how the databook confirms its about orihime when it was in third person.

"The readers aren't the ones who bound Ichigo to Orihime's screams (especially not you, anon, since you keep insisting it had nothing to do with her lmao). Kubo did that. That's how he meant for this scene to be interpreted: that Ichigo was bound to Orihime's screams. But you're still here fighting against it for some reason lol."

Did kubo tell u that he meant for the scene to be interpretated this way? Or did some angel come to you in ur dream and tell u that? If thats true, kubo wouldve simply added confirmation that hes talking about orihime by adding pronouns or her name. Instead he doesnt do that and has ichigo propell her away

He was bound to her screams, it's just that he didn't know the screams belonged to her, as long as those screams belonged to someone, he's gonna get up... that's who he is. It could've been anyone else screaming there and he would've stood his ass the fuck up, that's his charecter and what he does. Lmao you think this would go without saying, but the lengths ppl go for shipping is hilarious.

"Ichigo did know she was calling out to him. It was part of his internal monologue, as she's screaming, before he hollowfied. Whether the pronoun is there or not (because again, the pronoun for her doesn't *need* to be there to make it clear who he's talking about when she's clearly the only person screaming, placed directly next to a panel of him rising him up...) he could hear her voice. He could hear her calling him. He ruminated over ORIHIME'S screams and was bound to ONLY that purpose. Only her. "

He could hear her voice, he just didn't know it was her. Just that it was somebody, it's not that hard to grasp. There's nothing wrong with ichigo not knowing it's orihime but since shipping has rotten yalls brains, it has to be about the Princess hime, and not about ichigos own charecter, because everything has to be about orihime, right? (💀).

Your opinion on this probably won't change, that's granted as a deluded shipper. What also won't change, is the fact that this isn't an ichihime moment. U attempted to educate me on the japanese language and failed, I recommend doing more research time. I also reccomend not bothering to reply to things like these if ur arguement is just gonna end with "well ichihime is canon, deal with it" because it makes u look silly to say the least, and has nothing to do with the convo.

how i sleep knowing ichigo literally rose up from the dead for his future wife 🥰

[starsreminisce]

I saw the painting in my mind: the lovely fawn, blooming spring vibrant behind her. Standing before Death, shadows and terrors lurking over his shoulder. Light and dark, the space between their bodies a blend of the two. The only bridge of connection … that knife.

From the fury rippling from Cassian, the cold rage seeping from Azriel … I didn’t think so. Lucien, to his credit, didn’t back away a step. From Rhys, or me, or the Illyrians. The Clever Fox Stares Down Winged Death. The painting flashed into my mind.

I'm not sure why the top quote is supposed to be a pro-E/riel image, since any sort of superstition or metaphorical meaning behind a knife predominantly signifies a severing of the bond between the giver and the recipient.

I also interpret it as representing backstabbing or betrayal, which was the first thing that came to mind when Azriel offered his weapon to Elain.

A knife as a bridge symbolizes someone being stabbed.

Moreover, there were two significant instances where weapons were given that ended in betrayal. I don't consider Cassian helping Lucien arm himself to be in the same category, as Lucien needed to be armed for his journey and Cassian simply offered to help.

However, we saw Lucien gift Feyre a dagger as a form of apology for his hesitation, and he specifically said:

He jerked his chin at the knife. “It’s yours. Don’t bury it in my back, please.”

Feyre and Lucien had a complicated relationship in ACOMAF and ACOWAR. While most of it was from Feyre's perspective, where she felt that Lucien didn't do much to help her, we also get a sense of Lucien feeling betrayed by Feyre, which led to their confrontation as they traversed through the Autumn Court. We also know that Rhys gifted Tamlin a set of Illyrian blades, and Tamlin's family being responsible for the death of Rhys's immediate family.

Currently, while there hasn't been a complete severing of relationships between Lucien and Feyre, as well as Rhys and Tamlin, circumstances between these two pairs have changed, and there is a tense atmosphere. Feyre and Lucien no longer have the same friendship they did in ACOTAR, especially with their fight in ACOSAF, where Lucien wanted to live with people whom he considers as friends rather than staying in the Night Court. We are also seeing Rhys changing his perspective of Tamlin as a High Lord who aligns with his vision of a better Prythian.

I wonder if this means that Elriel will undergo a similar transformation, especially considering Azriel's desire for Elain to use the weapon and how Elain returned it to him. I can only hypothesize that it means Elain will betray Azriel sometime in the future, whether she realizes it or not, or Elain rejecting Azriel in a personal way, considering that Truth-Teller is a significant part of his identity.

There is also a second instance where Elain returned something Azriel had given her, and given that it occurred in a bonus chapter, this theme will likely make its way into current canon. What Azriel wants for Elain, Elain doesn't want, and she puts her desires above his.

She refused the knife Cassian handed her, and Azriel forced Truth-Teller into her hands, which she then forced back the same way. Azriel presented her with a necklace that Elain returned without seeing his reaction. Both times, she refused to acknowledge his reaction when she returned something of his.

Considering that Lucien is willing to stand up to death, it means that Lucien will stand by his mate when it happens.

[inkedwingss]

What does “metamorphosis” mean to you?

Short answer is rebirth. To be born again.

But I also have a long answer because I really liked this ask:

If I say "tree", we both know what "tree" means, but we see different trees in our minds, right? I love the idea that language is the common ground of understanding. That's why it has rules: it's a convention. Otherwise, we won't understand each other. You say dog, I think tree and answer: soup!, and you bring me a flower. Imagine.

That makes me think of Saussure, who defined a sign as being composed of a signifier (significant) — the form which the sign takes; and the signified (signifi ) — the concept it represents.

But anyway, this was a very long time ago, and it's a crazy subject to do in-depth, I just want to use this idea of two layers: physical (material, visible) x abstract (spiritual, invisible).

So my brief interest in etymology and Latin will tell me the word metamorphosis is composed by the very cool word meta (change) + morpho (form).

To be transfigured? To be changed? But at what levels?

Rebirth fits. It sounds very poetic. It's the old "the caterpillar has to die in order to become a butterfly". But honestly, I think we take this meaning too lightly. In the sense that we might want to change a sign, but we change only its form, and forget its concept — which might be immutable as well. In order for the metamorphosis to happen, I guess both must be changed. It's an all-in game.

If you smash a caterpillar, it will never become a butterfly. If you take a butterfly's wings, it will still be a butterfly. And if we verify the reality that brings the words to life,

"Once a caterpillar has disintegrated all of its tissues except for the imaginal discs, those discs use the protein-rich soup all around them to fuel the rapid cell division required to form the wings, antennae, legs, eyes, genitals and all the other features of an adult butterfly or moth. The imaginal disc for a fruit fly's wing, for example, might begin with only 50 cells and increase to more than 50,000 cells by the end of metamorphosis. Depending on the species, certain caterpillar muscles and sections of the nervous system are largely preserved in the adult butterfly. One study even suggests that moths remember what they learned in later stages of their lives as caterpillars." (Ferris Jabr)

Interesting to point that "imaginal discs" or "sections of the nervous system" will be preserved. In the sense that you can't have something coming out of nothing, ever! A fish can not go through a caterpillar's metamorphosis. So even to disintegrate and be fully transformed, we also need a solid basis.

Sometimes we want to be changed, but we don't want to digest ourselves like the brave caterpillar. We want beautiful wings, but we don't want to die for ourselves. Refusing nature's design that is intrinsic to our core, maybe we will die as silkworms, when we could have been brilliant butterflies.

[melliotwrites]

Hi! My brain has been going on and on and on about this musical and I’d love to know some lore about what happened to the Adamandi characters in freshman year! It’s hinted at and talked about a couple of times and I’m really curious.

Hi!! I'm really glad you're enjoying Adamandi! Thanks for the great question as well :)

Disclaimer that this is from a writing perspective, and also a snapshot of how we thought about the characters at the very beginning of the production process (when we wrote this draft of the script). Our actors, director, and designers for the Princeton production all came up with ideas about what happened to the characters, so if you're interpreting the choreography or costumes or acting choices or something, you might get a different takeaway (which is part of the magic of a collaborative art form like theater!)

(Stage directions and info about the characters is under the read more!)

The primary source of information in the script for what the characters are doing freshman year is A Word to the Wise; the characters enter as freshmen and then age up to seniors throughout the course of the song. This is the stage direction we wrote for the beginning:

The costume descriptions are meant to signify that when each of the characters begin their education at Address, they don't quite fit in. Quincy comes from an affluent family but is expecting to be met with prejudice by the rest of the student body, so they overcompensate by overdressing. Vincent is an international student from China, and they doesn't have the money or the knowledge of cultural norms in the United States to dress exactly like the other students yet, but they're trying their hardest. Ambrose hasn't found his niche with the sports extracurriculars and spends his time doing pottery instead; Beatrix doesn't care about fitting in yet, so she isn't consciously branding herself as a journalist (and hasn't yet changed her name to an Anglicized version). Portia isn't there because she is a Sophomore in the current day so she hasn't arrived at Ardess yet!

As the song progresses, their costumes change to signify their transformations into the jaded Seniors we know and love: Quincy dresses down to fit in, Vincent gets his long coat to show that he *isn't* trying to fit in, Ambrose and Beatrix get the signature clothing of their school clubs which are also their primary social groups, etc.

The first verse of A Word to the Wise (in theory) encompasses their freshman year, so the stage directions during the song show their social situations and relationships to other characters:

Vincent and Ambrose gravitate together, as roommates and fellow visual arts enjoyers (I also have adopted Tobias' headcanon that this is because Ambrose is trying to "teach" Vincent about being a guy and wants to bond with him over gender things, since he's never met another trans person before). Quincy and Vincent haven't met yet- Quincy, excluded by their year for both their intellectual airs and their race, hangs out mostly with older students who indoctrinate them into Ardess' toxic achievement culture.

Student 5 was played by the same actor as Adrian in the Princeton production, which fit this moment well; initially, Ambrose is trying to use his privilege to protect Vincent from the Marmorei's bullying, but it just means both of them are excluded. Beatrix gets invited but not socially accepted into the Newspaper club.

At the end of their freshman year, Ambrose gets drawn in by the Marmorius Society and slowly stops hanging out with Vincent, leaving Vincent alone.

The second verse of A Word to the Wise loosely covers their second year at Ardess. Beatrix joins the Ardess Daily, and Ambrose officially gets tapped for the Marmorius Society (they're specified here because of the lyric about secret societies- the Marmorius Society is intended to be one of those secret-but-not-secret societies at Ivy League universities that people join by invitation.)

At the end of their sophomore year and the start of their Junior year, Vincent is officially alone, as is Quincy, since both of their friends have more or less abandoned them. Beatrix is fighting for recognition in the Ardess daily, but she remains a Ghost Writer- unrecognized officially but used for her journalistic talent. Ambrose has decided to imitate the Marmorei as much as possible, and is carefully crafting his appearance to that aim- a harbinger of things to come.

The rest of the song covers Quincent meeting, the arrival of Portia, and Ambrose becoming the leader of the Marmorei, but I'll leave it there since you just asked about freshman year! The most significant things that happened Freshman year are Vincent and Ambrose being roommates and Beatrix getting headhunted for the Ardess Daily. Thanks for the question and I'm glad you're enjoying the show!

~Mel