#why is hannibal gaslighting will into being a dad

[piercedmysoul]

watching hannibal for the first time feels so dramatic and artistic and then u watch it again and realise how crazy and unserious it can be

[eldritch-elrics]

memes of 2021

[memes of 2020]

almost forgot! here is my casual list of memes i saw crop up on tumblr (and sometimes twitter) in 2021. it’s more a measure of what memes are floating around in my sphere of the internet than anything else, but it’s fun to compile!

bean dad

“my child is fine” your child x

grubhub ad

opening heart locket gif

eminem penis rap

damn shawty

bernie sanders sitting on inauguration day

“sometimes i can still hear his voice” “gay gay homosexual gay”

shrimp colors/shrimp x

the return of morshu

gaslight gatekeep girlboss

eeby deeby

so true bestie

your x looks gnc af / YOURE INSANE

overly specific dnis

lawyer with cat filter on zoom

tally hall ruler of everything

seeing lil among us dudes in everything

what is x if not y preserving?

american boy by estelle / fortnite parody

ever given getting stuck in the suez canal

lil nas x pole dancing into hell

to the joker, [“crazy” thing] is just normal

yahoo answers being shut down

trade offer

tramp stamps

josh fight

i could fix him

kinda gay to x. what are you doing, doing y to other men?

cognitive restructuring textbook example

miitopia customization

diversity win!

gotta be one of my favorite genders

the cdc just announced

hannibal fanart in the us capitol

spike traps on the dashboard

leaked powerpuff girls script

dalmatians killed cruella’s mother

lady dimitrescu on the phone

bts meal

mmmm no very unwise / catboy confucius

count dracula haha jonathan

anakin and padme talking

the highest honor i can bestow upon you

batman pussy eating

submissive and breedable

why as a man are you x

ao3 title lyrics videos

mushroom wojak

hersheychocolateworld manhunt

saw traps

mordecai and twilight

girl looking at guy with huge tits

15 signs you’re a x male (SUPER RARE)

by talos this can’t be happening

how to decorate a children’s hospital

did it hurt? when x?

there are many benefits to being a marine biologist

nonbinary people have to eat oysters

wow, okay, unfollowing now

post-sniffing rats

kris get the banana

excuse me mommy, sorry, mommy,

where the fuck are we kris

finding classical art pieces in halloween candy

creepy or wet

evil x be like

robert downey junior looking surprised

neuralblender

wizard with orb

the feminine/masculine urge

the queen transforming into her final form

couple texting in bed

happy and sad guy on a bus

you want me to x? the thing that killed y?

little german boy

nancy reagan throat goat

jorts the cat

the gavle goat burning

the war on #girl

squid games!!

horse plinko

[brave-clarice]

“Clarice” Liveblog: Episodes 5 & 6

Since these are extraordinarily late, I tried to keep them more concise/focused than before. I’m sorry for how long it’s taken me to (almost) catch up. And to the handful of you who’ve enjoyed these and encouraged me to do them: thank you!

Episode 5, “Get Right With God”

the music at the beginning of this episode might just be in the maintenance guy’s headphones(!) but it was still a…Choice.

there’s something so tragic about watching Clarice be unable to use her legs… :’(

this whole scenario feels like a twisted parallel universe version of the end of Hannibal.

glad to see Ardelia finally has her priorities straight and is going to fight for her best friend! let’s forget her Episode 4 subplot ever happened.

good: the warrior finding a weapon even in the direst of circumstances!

bad: those damn moths are back. at least this time they might be drug-induced.

“she worked Bill alone” no, she didn’t. not really. (Hannibal: I’m right here.)

stop trying to make Likable Paul happen, it’s never going to happen!!!

I HATE the “Reesey” nickname, y’all. HATE. IT.

plus, we know that her dad called her “Baby”?

her father’s appearance doubles down on the end-of-Hannibal vibes...Not Sure If Want.

wow, Clarice is being literally tortured? thanks, I hate it!!!

really doubt that Clarice’s Pinto used to belong to her father (who drives a truck in the books??)... weird flex.

and how would she even have gotten it? her mother would either have driven that car into the ground out of necessity or else have sold it for the money the Starlings needed so desperately.

Pintos also weren’t super high-quality cars and were definitely not built to last ~20 years.

Clarice already being able to chat with her father whenever she needs to really undermines the therapy Hannibal will eventually give her, but…I guess they’ve already accepted they’ll never make it that far?

“you’re trying to get in my head” yeah, and she’s doing it, too–’cause she learned from the best!

“you get an answer, I get an answer, Felker.” she’s Hannibal’s girl all right.

this episode’s had flashes of brilliance before diving back into…whatever tf watching one of your favorite characters of all time being tortured is.

I really wanted Ardelia to say that no, but Clarice was like a sister to her.

it took FIVE episodes to get some lamb imagery, but we’ve been looking at moths for the entire season?!

oof, Clarice voicing her own insecurities about her childhood abandonment and using them to twist Felker’s arm...painful but smart.

HANNAH!!!

I would die 4 baby Clarice

after all that, Clarice is going to apologize to Ardelia about last week? this episode SUCKS.

Good: Clarice playing mind games with Felker like Hannibal did to her; Ardelia going to bat for her bestie, lamb flashbacks, baby Clarice, and HANNAH!

Bad: So much. Clarice being medically tortured multiple times, moth hallucinations, the several-years-premature (imo) Daddy-as-Guardian-Angel plot device, “Reesey”...did I mention Clarice getting repeatedly tortured?!

Ugly: Krendler backstory + making out with his wife. Ew.

Wow, this episode was a hot mess, and I kind of hated it. I loved Clarice’s really Hannibalesque approach to Felker, and I’m so thrilled that Hannah got mentioned at all (tho...did they need to be so heavy-handed with the helmet and gun and everything?) Also nice to see Ardelia behaving much more in-character. That said, it was sickening and imo totally unnecessary to further traumatize Clarice the way they did. To make her almost helpless.

Clarice, and by extension Rebecca Breeds (who is fantastic and deserves better), has been given very little range so far. She’s frequently been shown as miserable, afraid, desperate, traumatized, angry, resentful, but I also want to see her joyful, laughing, silly, relaxed...something else that will give her depth. Her life wasn’t miserable 24/7, 365. It was just unfulfilling. We got glimpses of this in the first two episodes. PLEASE bring it back!

And rn I’m questioning how Clarice’s career can possibly drag on for another six years after this. Her apparent PTSD is already interfering with her job performance as it is--this experience is only going to make it worse. Her “body count” in Hannibal was around five, iirc, and that was enough to slap her with the “Death Angel” moniker. In the show at least four people have died in close proximity to Clarice in the space of like...a week. How does she come back from that, even as the savior of Catherine Martin? It’s a PR nightmare for obth Clarice and the FBI.

They’ve also sort of forgotten that the Martins existed while continuing to flesh out Krendler’s (?!) character? It’s weird.

I almost don’t even want to watch Episode 6 after that. But here goes...

Episode 6, “How Does It Feel to Be So Beautiful?”

the freaking MOTHS again, I hate them!

frankly, yeah, Clarice should be on leave.

Clarice’s nondescript monochrome suits and constant ponytail are just so boring. in the book she’s described as never having to put effort into making her hair look good--so why is it always pulled back in this show?

I’m not sure it’s very in-character for Clarice, at this point in her career, to go over her boss’s head to get out of admin leave (one she really needs to take tbh) even for the sake of solving a case

lol what the actual hell @ AG Martin guilt-tripping Clarice, who was very recently tortured and almost died, for not calling Catherine back? Clarice is not Catherine’s therapist!

THIS is what my Vogue-reading heroine with burgeoning great taste wears for a night out? so disappointing.

never in my life did I think I’d be sitting through Krendler’s personal drama in a show ABOUT CLARICE STARLING.

her costume sucks and her hairstyle’s from years in the future, but dang does Clarice look gorgeous.

and I love thinking of her getting a taste of the luxury she’ll enjoy with Hannibal. :)

you know what? I think I was actually fine with them forgetting that the Martins were in this show.

whyyy is Krendler being made so sympathetic?!

now Catherine Martin “loved to sew” just like Frederica Bimmel? hmm. (tbf, maybe this is in the novel, and I’ve just forgotten.)

her gift for Clarice is sweet, though.

so beautiful, indeed

Christ on a cracker, that confrontation between the Martins was painful to watch (not a criticism). this show’s AG and her daughter are very much two of a kind in terms of emotional manipulation.

I stan one (1) doofus

now either Catherine’s gaslighting Clarice...or Clarice’s trauma (over BILL! again with this!) is so pervasive that it’s twisted her memories. either way, I hate it.

so Krendler’s lawyer is dirty and that’s why he’ll (probably) turn against Clarice? but WHY? why can’t Krendler just suck?

Good: Clarice looking gorgeous, Ardelia continuing to fight for Clarice, female characters in positions of authority everywhere

Bad: Clarice’s underwhelming costumes, Clarice’s primary/worst trauma apparently STILL being Buffalo Bill & having Clarice break down crying again (and NOT over what happened last week, which would tbh make a lot more sense).

Sad: Shaan’s backstory about his wife, everything involving Catherine

Ugly: Krendler subplot. Ugh.

I just don’t know how I feel about this installment. Wish I cared more about the overarching conspiracy plot, but I’m really only here for Clarice and Ardelia. And while no show can stand on the shoulders of a single character, for a show about Clarice, there seems to be quite a bit of screentime devoted to her bosses, Martin and Krendler, and even to her team members. And all without Clarice herself getting much character development. They don’t seem to be exploring much of her character other than her traumatic backstories, and I’m no longer very hopeful that she’ll be much more fleshed out in the last four episodes, either. It’s a bummer. I really think Rebecca could shine like Jodie did if she were given a chance.

Most of the scenes with the Martins were visceral and felt so real that it was hard to watch. That said...the AG Martin/Catherine content all strikes me as being somewhat detached from the rest of the show, as if the writers are making it up as they go along with no real end goal in mind.

Man...these two were rough going. Very little humor or warmth and absolutely no joy. Of course the source material is dark, so a somewhat dark crime drama is to be expected, but I really think the show needs a slightly less intense, bleak and (dare I say it?) unpleasant episode. But they writers have really dug themselves into a hole by zeroing in on Clarice’s PTSD. And unlike in Hannibal, there’s no love interest with whom she (and by extension, the audience) can flee her misery and pain. 

I'm cautiously optimistic about the rest of the season. A lot of the ingredients are there, and despite my many criticisms, it’s been great to spend time with a character I love. Fingers crossed that they finish strong!

[firespirited]

Clarice episode12 Spoilers under cut

I hesistated to watch this one without waiting for episode 13 as 10-11 were two parts of a whole and browsing the AVclub for something else caught a glimpse of a C grade review calling it "dumb" https://www.avclub.com/clarice-starlings-past-and-present-all-fall-apart-at-on-1847124928. I disagree.

Here's the basic of the episode: Agent Starling can't accept she's angry, she pushes back, reaches a breaking point, recognizes something very loud within her, names it: it is indeed anger, does the smart thing. She's in a job where you're supposed to gaslight yourself into working until burn-out, multiple characters say to compartmentalize or bulldoze on. She makes a choice not to. Not dumb.

*Adding the "you're a good father" line to Krendler leads to a messy surface read but that's where Clarice was at mentally (and where we are storywise): fathers and fatherhood. Her vicap crew had very slowly become family that have her back. Krendler has been a true mentor in the past few episodes: protective, trusting but honest about her limitations, not letting the punch slide.

*Catherine is fantastic, she knows her mother's flaws and strengths. It's good to see her healing in a psychiatric hospital. Can I just say how rare and precious it is to have a psych ward not shown as hell on earth but a safe haven for once, a place to rebuild yourself.

*The reviewer for the avclub seems to think we're in a normal crime procedural universe and the show has gone 'over the top' with the villain. Did the lack of name dropping Hannibal make you forget that this is the Harris-verse where serial killers become gods and monsters and make art from violence. DUDE. You really thought this was going to be about a bad guy who makes money off a bad medicine? LMAO. This is limb-sculpture, wolf-mecha, beehive-head and dragon who eats the sun territory. If CBS has guts, it'll end with a man eating a human in the style of that 'Saturn devours his son' Goya painting.

*Not mentioned in the review but adding the bad dad angle is new to the character and could be seen as cliché to turn the Clarice Starling into a "daddy issues" woman but that would be too simplistic: 1/ West Virginia lawman in the 70s who was a good father but also a bad copper - sanctified and cystallised into an ideal by early death and being sent away from home is not a stretch. 2/ Clarice isn't just driven by spite, empathy and intellectual curiosity there's always been something about needing to understand the nature of evil as a corrupting force beyond meat farming metaphors. Also I love that she gave Hannibal just enough to feel he was in but he was just one layer deep. He can hurt her but she's still protecting the core. 3/ Working a straight very white male institution is punishing, profiling bad men is punishing, working for the feds who are a very shady institution because it's also got quantico is morally punishing. Clarice engages in a punishing lifestyle AND risky behaviour: Krendler is right, she should never have gone in alone: repeatedly. Her actually listening to her therapist and profiling herself is good. Taking herself off the job is good. It doesn't fit the classic tropes but it makes sense that a smart woman finally listened to other smart women and made a change. I like this plotline far better than her soldiering on. It's intelligent. 4/ Her recognizing she has an empathy weakness and blindspots is probably going to allow her to pick up on something in the next episode that saves her life.

You build yourself on what you've got and then learn to build your own self when those foundations crumble, there was a sense there was always a little more to it than just losing a dad and being sent to live on a meat farm. My guess uptil recently was some unresolvable grief about something explaining why her mother couldn't keep her around, it was dad related instead. That's a 3 dimensional character. Sorry if that breaks your female badass ideal. I was really concerned with where they were going with the dad angle which is why ep10 gave me pause but it's been treated with a bit more subtletly; the perfect dad was a crutch she's been using that she needs to drop to be able to grieve what happened with Gumb but also how she was forced to sacrifice parts of herself to Hannibal for info and was thrown to that wolf by her mentor Crawford. The throughline the season has been drawing is parents and mentors: from Chronos and Alaster to Jame Gumb's mother to Catherine's mother to Clarice's father: what they give us, what we take and what we reject to build our own selves.

Of course the finale could bungle it all. pessimistic me says cliffhanger because they were told season 2 was guaranteed (it was but now it's not because streaming companies are fighting).

[xxgothchatonxx]

WE HAVE ENTERED UNCHARTED TERRITORY!!! Everything from here on out is new to me! (Except for the Bedelia scenes you sent me. & those DELICIOUS [pun slightly intended] clips & gifs from their little Florence trip)

Trou Normand:

* WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK???

* THIS IS HOW I START MY MORNING??

* AND THERE’S SKULLS TOO?? WITH THE BODIES?? WAIT SKULLS WITH SKELETONS!!!

* OH NO THAT HEAD!

* THOSE ARMS!!!! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK??

* This will break Will, I KNOW IT! And if it doesn’t, will this break me?

* Oh this is really some jigsaw (game not franchise) shit.

* Dedication.

* Well, that murder was succinct. A bit anti-climactic considering what that guy becomes in this podium.

* THAT NOISES! THE DRUMMING & CLICKING DOESN’T HELP ME AT ALL!!!

* HANNIBAL??? HE IS DISASSOCIATING!

* WILLIAM!!! WILL!!! POOR SHAGGY, CHOCOLATE LAB!!!!

* HANNI’S CONCERN FOR WILL!!!!!😭😭😭😭

* ABIGAIL?? BITCH, HOW ARE YOU NOT DEAD??

* IT’S ALL YOUR FUCKING FAULT, LAURENCE!

* Tonight will be filled with exclamation marks, in case you haven’t noticed.

* Freddie. Freddie. Freddie. FREDDIE.

* She & Abigail give me HEADACHES! But mostly Freddie.

* Oh Will, you should’ve called in sick today, babes.

* He’s really teaching this like A DAY AFTER! Current events fill up an ever changing syllabus.

* OH NO NO NO NO BABY!!!!!

* Alana!!!

* God, Will looks SO SAD & SO HURT & SO EMPTY IN THIS EPISODE & I HAVEN’T EVEN HIT THE 20 MINS MARK!!

* Honesty is the best policy, I guess

* “Just because you killed my dad doesn’t mean you get to be him.” JAW DROPPED! MOUTH AGAPE!

* What a fucking CHILD!

* You making another art project, Buddy?

* 40 YEARS??

* Oh, the whole gang is there. Hanni, you’re in trouble!!!!

* Once again, Laurence, SHIT DECISION MAKING!

* And they put Boyle right in the center of the room? For dramatic affect??

* Okay, but why does his chest have those little holes??

* Well, Laurence is right on one thing: She did gut him.

* ALANA BLOOM, YOU COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG!!!

* Prettyyyyyy sure Hanni’s gonna kill Abigail. She DID betray him, so it works. He’s killed people for less!

* He was waiting for them.

* He’s a very good monologuer!

* Hell of a legacy, my guy.

* He’s looking at Boyle!!!! OH MY GOD YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!

* I like it, Picasso.

* FOR ONCE, HANNIBAL IS BEING HONEST!!!

* Now why did they close up on his hand on his shoulder??

* Freddie DINNER!!!

* I love this Fathers Interventions bit.

* Yeah, WE KNOW, ABBY! Glad it’s all done, though! Finally off of her chest.

* AND A HUG!!!! Sorry, OC thoughts ONCE AGAIN!

* PATERNAL HANNI BEST HANNI!

AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BITCH!!! I AINT EVER GONNA STOP LOVING YOU, BIIIIIIITCH!🥰🥰🥰

Thank youuuuuu <3

Abigail I give a pass to because she's been through a lot of shit, but Freddie... honey, I love you but this was just selfish and bitchy.

Paternal Hanni is indeed the best Hanni... and the worst Hanni (no spoilers of course but.. yeah i think you can see where this is going)

I've got a feeling that you're REALLY going to be cheering for something that Alana says in... I want to say it's the final episode of this season? Anyway it's something that we all wanted someone to say to Jack.

Yeah this is when things really start getting juicy (in the "oh my god, someone please just give Will a hug and punch Hannibal in the nose for being an enabling and gaslighting douchecanoe" way)

[filthybonnet]

//I have an idea on why Fuller doesn't like the end of Hannibal as much as his own version. I know it's probably wrong, but I'd like to know why. // We spend Red Dragon seeing what a issue-filled, self-destructive wreck Will Graham is, while a great deal of SOTL and Hannibal has Clarice doing the sensible, upright thing. Running off into the blue with Hannibal seems, at first blush, out of character, wheras Graham loading up his kit n' bindle seems perfectly in character.

For a lot of people Clarice running off with Hannibal was out of character but it wasn’t. I actually have a whole series of meta I’ve written about how Harris sets everything to bring Hannibal and Clarice together. It’s not a snap out of the blue decision. You can read my whole meta series here: Death Angel & Her Devil. The big issue people had with Clarice (and it was the same issue Fuller had) they didn’t want to believe that this woman they had put on a pedestal as an example of integrity yet also a bad ass could fall from grace. We don’t like our heros to be human. And I kind of blame the SOTL movie for this. As good as it was, they never showed us the little snide parts of Clarice that the novel did. The parts where she was bitchy to her classmates or she had really dark thoughts.

Ironically Fuller claims Clarice is the one his brain washed in the end when all signs point to his “true love” being emotional and physical abuse. You can’t try to kill a man twice, frame him for your murders, figure out he has a life threatening disease and not do anything just to see what happens for fun, kill his surrogate daughter in front of him as revenge, date the girl he wants, turn yourself in because it’s the opposite of what he wants, send somebody to kill his family and then expect me to call that love when Will comes back to Hannibal. That’s gaslighting on steroids. That’s I gave away everything and joined a cult.

Book Hannibal’s I stalked you, dug up your dad’s remains for drugged induced regressions therapy sounds rather quaint in comparison.

TL;DR: Fuller is full of shit, let’s stop glorify abusive relationships and get back to enjoying Gothic Romance relationships for what they are.