My Joris Playlist - explained
Yet another self-indulgent post going into details on why I picked certain songs for my third playlist. Even though the Atcham playlist explanation was a flop and that made me sad.
1. Mother Mother - Mamma Told Me
Self explanatory 💀
2. nekobolo (aka Sasanomaly) - Synthesia Ghost
This one is a bit hard to explain. Because the Joris playlist is not separated into child/adult or any other categories, this song's first purpose in this playlist is to, in a way, signify that while the first song is about his childhood, the rest of the songs are definitely about his character after the movie.
It has a mature but vulnerable sound, and expresses a deep, but vague, sense of dissatisfaction with the entirety of one's life — and an inability to express it less vaguely. He hates Kerubim so much.
3. Inabakumori - Kimi ni Kaikisen
This is my top "Joris in Huppermage Academy" song. But also general teenage Joris song. I don't think the king of being homeschooled is good in traditional learning environments.
4. Inabakumori - Secret Elementary School Student
It's a song about not wanting to grow up, "My dream job is to be an elementary school student."
I think something Joris is mentally ill about is wanting to be a child but wanting to be an adult but wanting to be a child. It's a dichotomy he has been trapped in for six centuries.
There are also some lyrics that make me think of the dichotomy of hating and loving Kerubim, during the chorus. Hehe.
5. R.I.P - I'll Throw My Emotions Away
This song is definitely about Adult Joris in his "everyone around me is dying of old age" era lmaooo.
The "you" and "he" in this song is Kerubim though (and a little bit of Atcham, but he has a normal, healthy, and supportive relationship with Atcham, so 99% of this playlist is not applicable to him). I think Joris will stub his toe and think "FUCKING KERIBIM CREPIN."
6. PowaPowaP - Can't Even Age Normally
Unlike Kerubim and Atcham, he doesn't really "age" so he had to come to terms with immortality bullshit not at 70-90 years of age after dying, but probably at 30-40 years of age AND he has to keep coming to terms with it.
Also he hates growing older, because I think he'd like things to remain simple - the same way that was expressed in the "Secret Elementary School Student"
Basically, I think he really hates himself. Big Joris doomerism song.
7. Sohta - Stardust Girl
Years, decades, centuries keep passing, and Joris is just as passively suicidal and self-hating.
He just tries to make it into a good thing by applying optimistic nihilism.
8. Deco*27 - Coward Mont Blanc
There were some songs that referenced hating being a cruel person and a coward previously, but this one is the top "Joris knowing he's not a good person and feeling horrible about it." song.
One hc I have is that when Joris's friends - including Khan and Lilotte - die, he does Not visit them if they're actively dying even if they ask him to come; and he will NOT come to the funeral and he will not visit the grave for at least 3-5 years. There are exceptions, but mostly it's like this. And he feels SO bad about this. He's insane.
9. Meg Myers - Numb
We're progressing to more-immortal more-adult Joris issues with this one, and still there's a theme of him not wanting to grow up.
He's so desperate for approval of other people that he made himself into a tool for the Bontarian government and gaslighted himself into thinking he's making any difference in the world by participating in the system. Sad oh well.
10. Nekotanaka - Never
Once again, "Very positive sounding song about depression that is very Joris-core with him trying to convince himself he's normal and sane, using his love for Atcham and Kerubim."
11. K.Flay - It's Just a Lot
I'm fucking insane. In a way, yearning to be a child is about not wanting to become the person he is. He wants to care about people — he doesn't want to be cruel or cold. But he is.
Even then, it doesn't mean he will stop wishing he could be more carefree and innocent.
"I've done things against which I believe"
"It all amounts to no-one knows."
"I want to hold onto the innocence I've got."
12. Penelope Scott - Moonsickness
Imagine Joris during the Huppermage genocide. Lmaoooo rip bozo??! Rip bozo. Joris you are so fucking stupid why are you still Bontarian after what happened. I need to choke him to death.
I think the huppermage genocide was his first big political disillusionment induced depression.
13. Inabakumori - Heaven's Tears
More epic Joris self-gaslights. I think his thoughts on Bonta in the world are always "things will end well. No they won't. But I can't just fucking say that. So things will end well."
There's one bit of this song that is very Joris@Kerubim-core, and it makes me think of this song in the framework of "Joris's self-gaslight mental health preservation system is very much inherited from Kerubim."
14. Amanda Palmer - Trout Heart Replica
I'M INSANE. I'M CRAZY. I'M INSANE. This is THE Joris character song. This is his fucking theme song, actually.
There are so many layers of meaning to this song: on a surface layer, it's about the guilt that comes with the nature death: we are created to outlive most animals, seeing them grow up from little babies to adults in such a short time. And we are created to kill to survive and eat. The song's primary theme is the horror of hunt for the hunter.
Joris is someone who has been alive for centuries, and almost all of this time he spent in politics. He's seen and outlived thousands of people like Eva, Amalia, Yugo, and Tristepin. He's been friends with hundreds of adventurers that grow and die faster than he can blink, sometimes in wars, and sometimes because of Bonta.
And that's just normal, to him, for some reason.
The song's secondary theme is being unable to connect to other people emotionally; being a cold, distant friend. It's about killing people's love for you slowly, through ghosting, through silence, and feeling like it's the inevitable consequence of every relationship. Just like the relationship between predator and prey. And being just as condescending towards the people involved.
A very resigned position of doom towards every relationship that is in any way positive.
15. Mitski - Washing Machine Heart
This song was one of the three contributing factors to Fragile, handle with care being written.
Big Kerubim&Joris win.
16. Mitski - Working For The Knife
He used to want to be a photographer, an adventurer, an artist, a good person.
But he's working for the knife. :)
17. Mitski - Crack Baby
Another evil Kerubim&Joris win.
Petition to Kill Kerubim Crepin. Together we can explode the feline child neglector.
18. Ferry - The Mill
This (checks notes) song from a plot driven vocaloid song series really suits Joris. Instead of vulnerable emotions of love, I think this is a good "how Joris feels while travelling with Atcham and Kerubim" song, as well as a good "Joris in his usual mental state (repression)" song.
It also questions a lot of things I already talked about: his arrogance in trying to lead people despite being a mess, his reluctance to let go of his position in Bonta despite knowing that Bonta isn't really perfect; and his feelings on Keke and Atch.
"Oh, it's nothing new, the visionless leading the blind; It's easy to say "why don't you leave it all behind"; And this moral compass is forever misaligned;
All I need is that you'll be here by my side. But you can never know that; "Too strong to die" — or was it me again?"
19. Mother Mother - Body of Years
A very beautiful song about the process of someone rotting and turning to dust. Man I hope Joris doesn't have 47573838 dead friends.
It's also a song about wanting to make a mark on the world - and I really think it applies to Joris. Out beloved idiot idealist.
20. Mitski - Me and My Husband
Kerubim&Joris ass song.
I'm going to walk into the sea.
It's such a depressing song that just resigns to "I have nothing going for me, except for him."
21. weevildoing - Caliber Girl
Joris Quit Politics and be Reborn as a Lotus Flower. It's the right thing to do.
(This is a song about overworking overtime overnight overday overweek on your 10 hour shift IT job because Surely It's The Proper and Adult Thing To Do To Be Respected And Perfect And Responsible, and Make a Difference and Change The World. It is the right way, right? Right..!?)
"No meditation, medication, no doctor, no therapist; could cure me of the condition of the world that I have to live in; Working on my rest days. Never productive enough; Even on my best days. Will it ever be enough?"
22. Inabakumori - Rainy Boots
Another "yearning for the simplicity of being a child" type song. Hehe. It's really about trying to do things that used to make you happy when you were young, and it just not feeling the same...
Also, I think at this point in the playlist, the Ogrest's Chaos has probably happened. I think he got pretty mentally ill during those years and clung to Atcham and Kerubim extra hard.
23. Inabakumori - Float Play
The same exact motifs and themes as the last song - trying to return to a more innocent time by doing something you used to, and it not feeling the same.
But it differs in being more aggressive at reclaiming that feeling - begging the person the song is being sang to, "you" to bring this feeling back. In a way it feels like a Joris&Kerubim song.
"A pacifist until yesterday...!"
"Starting today, I'm a victim."
24. Inabakumori - Sink Tank
[hacks up blood] hes been living with his dad, who neglected him to the point of 20 menta illnesses, for 600 years.
The "you" in this song is absolutely Kerubim.
25. Inabakumori - Hello Marina (Will Stetson cover)
IM CRAZY IM CRAZY IM FUCKING INSANE IM CRAZY. This is THE Joris&Kerubim&Atcham song. It's so loving and bitter.
"That scar that you see? It bound what we'd be — you gouged it in me! So, they remain, every ache binding us will stay."
26. Mafumafu - Hated by Life Itself
Big breakthrough in this playlist: the first Joriscore anti-doomerism song.
It's about Not wanting to kill yourself, and violently so - despite knowing that the world is Shit. It's hard to explain because the lyrics of the song are so fast and so dense with many themes, many of which fit him!
27. Pomme - Nelly
Listening to this song, before I kew that this song is about a writer, I thought "this reminds me of my mom," which turned into "this reminds me of Joris and Kerubim" which turned into mental illness.
When divorced of it's (sad, beautiful, very meaningful) context as a song about a wonderful writer, it can make for a good song about loving your mentally ill single parent who neglected and parentified you into having 20 mental illnesses and is your best friend?
Anyway this song is the Second Contributing Factor in the writing if the fic Fragile, handle with care. (And the third one is on the Kerubim playlist.)
28. Majima Yulo - Is This Kamaboko? Mahoro? Makoto? (Less Than Truth)
IM INSANE. This is the second Joris theme song. Joris self-gaslight stays winning!!! Every Joris fan owes it to themselves to give it a listen.
The happiest sounding song to ever say shit like "I'm talentless and powerless + GOD I LOVE CODEPENDENCY + I have 99999 regrets + I root out the sadness I feel for every tragedy + I really wish I wasn't witnessing history being made and I don't want to be alive during most of the ages! + I want to throw up."
29. Flëur - Be My Raison D'Etre
I really, really wish all english sub videos for Fleur songs weren't Yandere Simulator themed. Genuine anguish. Vile slurs omitted.
The thing about Joris is that all he has is Atcham and Kerubim, and they've been there all his life, and no matter how chill he acts, he IS needy about it, and it IS poisoning his brain.
30. Mitski - Happy
[instead of explaining anything, I pull out an image of Kerubim and Joris cannibalizing one another, from my artblog @atchamcrepin]
does this make sense.
31. Iyowa - Leave you on The Back of the Earth
[points once more to the art of Kerubim and Joris cannibalizing one another]
i actually drew it while listening to this but the lyrics on the last song were more striking:)
Imagine being a child and you were adopted by the guy who killed your mom and he had the audacity to neglect you to the point of developing 20 mental illnesses. AND neither of you can die or escape your relationship.
Also this song has a lot of cat puns and Nyas
32. Ano - Chu, Tayousei
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Also this is the third song in the "I listened to it wile drawing Joris&Kerubim cannibalism." and —
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Anyway, what I'm talking about is: Joris feels a mixture of hate and love towards the man, and he both wants to be his own person and just Be Told what to do by His Dad. This song literally going "vomit kiss! Vomit kiss!" Is so "positive feelings mixed with negative" it's crazy.
Also I do think Joris kind of disgusts himself with his own desire to Not be his own person (hes an adult man and it's weird to live with his dad for centuries and—) as well as his mixed emotions towards Kerubim (the man doesn't deserve to have all this baggage pointed towards him) which too, is kinda reflected by the vomit part of the song.
It's very manic.
33. Hanyuu Maigo - onomatopoeia
A less insane "joris hates and loves kerubim" song.
34. Mitski - Love me More
Man i dont evem know how to explain this without reiterating the shit ive already said.
He doesn't have anything going for him save for two catboys, man. It's his main hobby and lifestyle.
35. Wowaka - toosenbo
This one's on the more "hate" side of the codependency ordeal. For all his issues, I think he haaaates it when Kerubim speaks over him and treats him, an adult man, like a child.
36. Red Vox - Better On The Outside
For a turn, a warm song about making each other better, and helping eachother heal. While the maddening and controlling part of the codependency is very compelling to me, it's not all gloom and doom with the jurgencrepins! (Especially when taking Atcham into account XD)
37. Mili - 奶水 (Milk)
RISE UP FOR THE CREPINJURGENITE NATIONAL ANTHEM.
The knowledge of this song is required for all Joris, Kerubim, and Atcham fans because it's our fucking catboyliker national anthem and flag.
We romanticising caramelizing mythologizing idealizing codependency-to-the-point-of-becoming-a-singular-being in this mothafucka!!! Get your sensitive ass back to wakfu series fandom!!
38. itoki hana - as you are
Another song that portrays the good side of the trio's relationship. They're cringe losers, ugly, and morally ambiguous failures... TOGETHER! And they LOVE each other for it!!!! Fuck!!!!!!!!!!
(singable translation by the fansubber known as "toby fox". Idk who he is but the subs are cool!) -
"I'm really not — the savior you wished I'd be; the hero you said you always saw in me"
"I know that I can't, so don't be surprised; Just hope the one I am 's still the one you love."
39. Hanyuu Maigo - Thank You, Emptiness
It's a very optimistic song, and I don't like ending my playlists on a sad note if the character has a good ending or isn't dead yet. I think that by 600 years of age, Joris has found some meaning in death and life.
40. Flëur - Someone
One of the only english subbed Fleur songs that don't have Yandere Simulator art on the sub videos 💀😭
It's about being forced to care for someone — and growing to love caring about them. While it is unfortunate that Joris's childhood was... yknow, who are we to deny him the right to Enjoy parentification and want to call himself Kerubim's dad?
Like
"he needs to move away from his father and live alone and a conventional romantic relationship with some random character he interacted with once in canon even though he would never fucking do it and it makes no sense for his character"
"no! Independent life and being shipped will kill the patient."
"he needs parentification to live."
41. PinocchioP - Nobody Makes Sense
Another one of those "i think by 600 years of age, his immortality angst has calmed down, and he found some meaning and peace (but not Too Much)" songs.
42. 4o (tadanoCo) - SentO
Wait 5-6 more months for my animatic and then all will be explained. Or listen to it and see my vision.
But to be serious, it's once again about finding meaning - and aggressively. It's about knowing everything about your job is bullshit and useless and you're making no difference; it's about knowing you're a bad person, an idiot, and an egoist the same way everyone else is, and not caring; it's about knowing you can't change the ways the world exploits you, and other people, yearning to be able to do more, but mostly wanting to just live well with the people you love.
And it's about growing up.
43. PinocchioP - I'm glad you're evil too
Crepinjurgenite nation rise up for our second anthem.
Ironically, Joris has built himself such a stoic public image that the only people he really can be himself with are Kerubim and Atcham. And I think he likes it that way.
44. Faded Paper Figures - Relatively
This song is shared with the Kerubim and Atcham playlists.
The first verse is Atcham; the second verse is Kerubim; and the third verse is Joris.
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