#arrowverse ships

[arrow-v-flash-polls]

Following the results of the first poll which of these two already winning ships of Barry's is your favourite?

[msanonny]

Iris + sitting on Barry's lap

[gothamite-rambler]

Roy: Hey.

Donna (hands on hips): Heeey. You got some time off today?

Roy: For what?

Donna (posing): Me.

Donna smiled flirtatiously then posed more like she was a model showing off her new outfit. Roy chuckled at her proposal.

Roy: I have time for you no matter what I'm doing.

Roy took Donna's hand leading her away as Jason and Dick watched from a few feet away. Dick cackled seeing Jason's jaw drop in shock.

Jason: How the hell did he not panic? What the hell?!

[voidfalcon]

[kathrahender]

"If you don't ship X ship you're an asshole"

"If you ship X you're an asshole"

"If you don't like X character you're the worst"

"If you like X character you're the worst"

"If you like this ship you're an abuse apologist"

"If you like this character you're a genocide apologist"

"This is a toxic ship, if you like it you support toxic couples irl"

"This is an evil character, if you like it you support abusers/murderers irl"

"If you like X character you support/like/accept what X does irl"

"If you like X pairing you support/like/accept X kind of pairing irl"

I'm tired of making posts about this topic but it seems like people don't understand it. Maybe If I continue making them people will eventually understand it. For the love of God. Stop with the toxicity. Stop with the harassment. Stop with the death threats. What do you think you will get harassing someone? What do you think you will get sending death threats? No, like, I'm seriously asking. What. the. fuck. do. you. think. you. will. get. A reward?

Because you're not gonna get a reward for leading someone to suicide.

First, if you feel the need to harass someone or tell them "kill yourself" for a fictional thing, your. opinion. is. invalid. "It's not invalid because I'm right!" "Oh, I'm right" "Oh, I'm the best" "Oh, I'm awesome" "Oh, I'm the best person here" "Oh, I'm the best human because I have morals unlike other people". Stop. Please, stop. You're so cringe. You are the "moral" person but you're telling a real person to kill themselves. Oops- my bad. Yeah, I realize now. That's actually the most moral thing in this world. Telling someone to kill themselves. How I didn't notice before? Tell someone "kys" is the best thing ever, it's not like you can break their heart, it's not like you can harm them irreparably, it's not like you can damage or shatter them, it's not like you can bring back their trauma (if they have), it's not like you can destroy completely a person for your unconsciousness and stupidity.

As I was saying- if you tell someone "kill yourself" "die" or harass them, you're opinion is invalid because no one with the ability of using reasonable arguments would act like that. It's the same as insulting someone. If you feel the need to call people "idiot" "asshole" "dick", that only proves you're not an intelligent person. If you were, you would be capable of talking about a topic without calling the other mean nicknames and/or without being rude to them.

Secondly, you have the right to like whatever ship you want. And you also have the right not to like a ship. But there's a difference between posting things like "You're fucking ill" "They have chemistry, you're an asshole if you don't ship them" "They're the best couple in this book/show/movie! You're the worst for not shipping them!" "If you like/don't like this couple is because you're a fucking idiot" "If you ship this, kill yourself" and posting things like "I don't like this ship because X, Y and Z" without being disrespectful to the people that like that ship. There's also a big difference between not liking what people ship/hating the ship and actively going into people blogs, into their asks, and into their posts, to harass them. You have the right not to like a ship. You have the right to like a ship. But people also have the right not to be harassed for a ship. And I don't understand why I even have to say that HARASSING SOMEONE OR TELLING THEM "KYS" is VERY VERY MUCH WORSE than liking a fanon/canon ship- WHEN YOU PEOPLE SHOULD FUCKING KNOW THAT ALREADY.

Thirdly, "If you don't like X character you're the worst" "If you like X character you're the worst". As well as you can ship whatever you want, you can like whatever character you want. You have the right to like whatever character you want without being called out, without being harassed, and without being told to kill yourself. And you have the right to like them BECAUSE IT'S A FUCKING CHARACTER. It's not real. Liking Voldemort or Vecna, for example, doesn't make you a murder apologist. Liking Endeavor doesn't make you an abuse apologist. Liking Darth Vader doesn't make you a genocide apologist. And I don't care about why you like them, but you can like them. Because again liking a FICTIONAL villain is not the same as liking a REAL villain. We would have a problem if you defended/supported REAL fascists, REAL murderers, REAL abusers, REAL dictators.

Disliking a character is also okay. Because guess what? Everyone has the right to have their own opinion about a character without people being rude at them. You have the right to dislike Harry Potter. You have the right to dislike Ginny Weasley. You have the right to dislike Draco Malfoy. You have the right to dislike whatever character you want. But of course it's not the same disliking a character for their personality or their behavior (or a similar reason) than disliking them because of their gender, their race, their sexual orientation, etc. If you dislike them because their personality annoys you, it's okay. It's not okay if you dislike them, for example, for being black. Above all things, you have to be a respectful human. And disliking a character for something like their race, gender or sexual orientation it's disrespectful.

Fourthly, if you don't want to see posts about the ship you dislike in Tumblr, there's something called FILTER TAGS. You know what I do when people post things about Percabeth / Hiccstrid / Jlaire / Adrinette / Westallen / Naruhina? You think I harass people who like those ships? You think I tell them "kys" because in my opinion they're not good ships? No. I FILTER the tag like a NORMAL, MORALLY and RESPECTFUL person would do. I don't go into Percabeth / Hiccstrid / Jlaire / Adrinette / Westallen / Naruhina blogs/posts to tell people "you're an asshole, why do you like this fucking ship? It's trash". And If I find a blog and I don't like them for what they have in their bio or because I can't stand the ships they like- I just block them. Because THE BLOCK BUTTON also exist. If you don't want to interact with someone, block them. But don't go into their blogs to harass them.

And you ALSO can do these things in AO3. You don't want to see works of a certain pairing? You don't want to see the works of a certain user? Then filter the tag and mute the user (1) instead of whining in other social media. "Why there are so many works of this couple? It's disgusting 😭😭😭" "The fandom worries me with this ship" "This ships is disgusting, why people like it so much?". Stop. Please stop. No one cares about what you're saying. You hate X ship? Then exclude the tag "X character/Y character" and search works of your favorite couple. It's so easy. (Yeah- I know I made a post about Ereri and Jeaneren, but with the post I meant I wanted more Jeaneren works, I didn't mean I wanted all the Ereri fics to dissapear or that I wanted people not to ship Ereri).

In fifth place, I have to say that your actions are very -like Palpatine would say- ironic. Yeah, it's ironic how you criticize people for liking "toxic/abusive" ships (like Catradora, Bakudeku, Reylo, Dabihawks, Zutara and Darklina, when they aren't even toxic because most of the times they're enemies to lovers ships) (2), while not worrying about ACTUAL canon toxic ships (like Jarley, Hannigram, Maiko, Anidala, and more) and while getting to the point of harass people for that """""toxic""""" ship. I don't know, but I think the only toxicity here comes from you.

"They're toxic" "They're abusive" "Their dynamic is horrible, it's so toxic and abusive" "I used to ship them but now I see how morally wrong is the ship" "If you ship this you're normalizing abuse" "I hate when people make it seem like a healthy ship". No. You're the toxic person here. You're the abusive person here. You're the wrong one here. You're the one normalizing abuse by not allowing people to like the ship they want and by making excuses to harass people. And btw- we don't make it seem like a healthy ship- because Catradora and Reylo, for example, only ended up together AFTER villain's REDEMPTION. It's not a toxic ship if we don't see the toxicity in their romance. I repeat it: in their ROMANCE. And like I said in a previous post, even if it was a toxic ship, no one has the right to harass someone for it. "No, they deserve to be harassed because they are toxic and that means they support toxic couples in real life". WHAT YOU LIKE IN FICTION IS NOT A REFLECTION OF WHAT YOU SUPPORT IN REAL LIFE, AND AGAIN, I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVE TO SAY THIS WHEN YOU ALREADY SHOULD KNOW IT. And you aren't the most appropiate person to talk about toxicity-

And to end this post, it's funny how you throw hands the moment someone criticize your ship or your favorite character, acting like you're the morally superior person here. Acting like you're the best. Acting like you deserve good things because you're "right" and everyone else deserve bad things because they're "wrong". You know what? If your favorite characters were here, if Harry Potter, Ginny Weasley, Ron Wealey, Hermione Granger, Percy Jackson, Annabeth Chase, Katara, Aang, Marinette Dupain-Cheng and Adrien Agreste (and other characters) lived in this world, trust me, they wouldn't treat you with "respect" for defending them and defending their ship (Hinny, Romione, Percabeth, Kataraang, Adrinette and other ships). If you were/are respectful, sure, they would treat you nicely. Oh, but if you told someone to kill themselves, harrassed them, or doxxed them for their ship- they would be SO disappointed with you and your fandom. And trust me, they definitely wouldn't be on your side because THEY are HEROES and GOOD PEOPLE unlike you.

If you're against something I said, if you're against me being against harassment/being against sending death threats, block me now because I'm tired of people defending something so disgusting.

(1) If you silence a user in AO3 their works don't appear in the Search. You see this:

(2) I made a post about the """""toxicity""""" of some enemies-to-lovers ships (which is none), if you want to read it, read this and this or search for the tag "enemies to lovers" in my blog.

[allthebestnamesweretaken]

OliverxFelicity will always be one of my favorite couples!! I mean just look at them🥹

Felicity Smoak they could never make me hate you

[kingoftheu]

If I had a nickel for every time a blonde tech girl who wasn't in the orginal comics wound up a love interest for Oliver Queen in a CW show I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

[lapetitechatonne]

fun fact, bi/pan people exist, and saying that a character that has shown to have real interest and feelings for both men and women are exclusively gay/lesbian is in fact ✨bi/pan erasure✨ and is a shitty thing to do

[lukas-dusk]

Barry : What are you in the mood for?

Snart : World domination.

Barry : That's a bit ambitious.

Snart : You are my world.

Barry : Aww...

Snart :

Barry :

Snart :

Barry : OH!

[a-mess-of-a-nerd]

This is a rant that I’m not sure whether or not to post but I just need to get my thoughts out of my head.

Fandoms are so disgustingly toxic now! It is such a shame, especially as someone who has interacted with fan content since the early 2010s where people were having fun and just being creative and kind. Yes, there was flaws back then, I’m not saying there wasn’t, but ever since covid lockdowns in 2020, more and more toxicity is flooding fandom spaces. I have been through many fandoms but slowly they’ve all been ruined by toxicity. There are obvious ones like marvel fans being horrible to any non white cishet males, but then even in fandoms like the stardew valley fandom is toxic as they hate on anything that they don’t view as canon like shipping and crazy headcanons or even just not liking certain characters. I’m constantly losing my love for so many things because of how fandoms are now days. There’s no creativity, no etiquette, no kindness, no love. It’s so heart breaking to witness places that used to be full of kind and creative people turn into places full of gatekeeping, hatred and cruel people.

Not everyone in fandoms are toxic, I have met some kind and lovely people through fandoms, but I am generalising because there has been such an increase in toxicity that it feels 90% of people in fandoms are. People in fandoms now don’t know the etiquette that was so important to the spaces that were carved out. It’s as if the dude bro fan mindset has spread like a parasite. Fandoms used to be an escape to discuss and create based on mutual interests and not feel judged or made fun of for their interests, but now that escape is disintegrating and it’s hard to find fandom safe spaces anymore.

If you don’t like it scroll, you don’t need to start fights if you don’t agree or have a differing opinion. If you don’t like it, don’t interact. I try and uphold this when I interact and view fandom content, but it’s clear not many people do anymore. It’s just so upsetting to me to see places that I used to be excited to go and talk about headcanons and my favourite ships and any new content by fans or otherwise has now become a place I dread since no matter what fandom I always know there will be hate or arguments or plain old bullying.

If you write fanfics or create art and have received hate for no reason other than someone don’t like it, I am truly sorry, you are all so talented and brave, putting yourself out there is hard but you do it. Don’t let anyone make you feel bad for your work, keep writing fanfic for your crack!ship, keep drawing your favs cosplaying your other favs. Even if you don’t post things, your headcanons, opinions and ships are all valid. Keep enjoying fandoms despite how toxic they’ve become because your ships, headcanons, opinions are so valid and no matter how you want to interact with fandoms it’s okay, just don’t spread hate and everything will be okay.

Please, for the sake of fandoms, be kind, let everyone enjoy their experiences even if it’s different to your own, we are better than the hate, better than what we’ve become. Sending love to all you beautiful souls out their enjoying your fandom experiences 🩷

Tldr: please be kind fandom goers 🩷

[arrow-v-flash-polls]

When joining Star Labs Caitlin was the first person that Cisco became quick friends with and the two stuck by each other though every hardship they faced. But do you like to see the two together romantically, prefer them more platonically or rather not seen them together at all?

[msanonny]

Barry and Iris cuddling by the fireplace.

[voidfalcon]

[hmslusitania]

The Flash, 1.01

Ollie: you didn’t just run 600 miles to say hi

Barry: no

Okay so. Portland is used for the establishing shots of Central City which is whatever, it’s fine, but typically in DC lore, Central City/Keystone City tend to be where Kansas City is in our world.

So, if Star(ling) City, which has been established to be a coastal place in Arrowverse, is 600 miles or so from Central City, MO, that makes the options the Great Lakes generally. Chicago’s only 400~ miles away. Green Bay is about 500. Duluth, MN is about 550~. But! Toledo, Ohio is just about 600 miles from Kansas City. Which is probably the funniest possible place to put Oliver Queen imo

[ao3statistics]

This is self-made. Date: 06.12.2024

So many poly ships... Really thought there was gonna be more diversity?!

I assume no guarantee or liability for the completeness, correctness and accuracy of this chart despite my best efforts.

Includes fanfictions in all languages available, NOT English only. Includes all fandoms on Ao3 connected to Bartholomew Henry "Bart" Allen II.

Percentages were rounded up or rounded down to natural numbers for easier comprehension.

Poly ships were included.

More charts will follow. :) Want to have a chart for different pairings, headcanons etc. in your favourite fandom? Send me an ask

Also... Bart and Neville? :D

[beansbeen]

tell me why SnowBarry in the Arrowverse is shipped so much? And why do I like them