#calypso slander

[louisfruit]

Also I absolutely hated at the end of Trials of Apollo when they were like "actually all the problems in Leo and Calypso's relationship were Leo's fault cause he's not used to living with women but now he's learning" because absolutely not

[fireflysl-forever]

Calypso slander

"The text is all up to interpretation."

The Text:

[froggydrawz]

me when someone says you are a bad person if you like Calypso:

[lavndvrr]

I never understood what it’s like to have a notp until I met freaking calypso

[chasm-craft]

Calypso they could never make me hate you

I ALREADY HATE YOU

REBLOG IF YOU ARE APROUD CALYPSO HATER!!!!!

[h0bg0blin-meat]

If you're gonna call Odysseus a piece of shit cuz of his thing with Circe, you better call Calypso a piece of shit for SAing him as well. Don't hold double standards

[helpfandom]

Yandere Calypso Twins x PLATONIC! Mini VH! reader HCs

Once again, @yandere-plague did this before [they did a Tyreen one] so read theirs!! https://www.tumblr.com/yandere-plague/686619271034535936/yandere-borderlands-characters?source=share <3 Not requested nor given by my bestie this time. Enjoy! (*・ω・)ﾉ I'm sorry, but this is likely skewed towards more Tyreen HCs because I love her.

See, the thing is, these two kidnapped you before they even knew about you. They saw that Lilith tried to protect you (Simply 'cause you're young.) and as such, they saw a weakness and want to exploit it to further embarrass Lilith.

So, once they took Lilith's powers, they took you too, simply just to manipulate people and make it seem like the Crimson Raiders couldn't save you / do anything against them. "Aw, poor FireHawk couldn't even save a kid!"

They just dump you into a room using Lilith's powers. Like I'm sorry but they truly don't care, they just think you're some dumb kid that thought that you could be safe with the Crimson Raiders. That is, until... See, Their plan was to dump you into a all-out fighting arena, and stream your death to the Crimson Raiders.... Except that you knew how to take care of yourself, and lasted against all of them. It is to be expected of course, from a mini VH, but they didn't know that. "Damn! Kid can tank a hit or two, that makes their death all that much more sweeter!"

They respected that you could take care of yourself, albeit now, they knew you could take a few hits.

Tyreen is nice-r than Troy, she wants you to catch your breath, let your guard down while you rest and then kill you. Troy, however, is more so "Watch them get overwhelmed and die" route, because neither can agree on how on how to kill you, they stop sending you in to fight and instead decide to make it seem like their torturing you instead to the Crimson Raiders. They don't, actually, torture you for some reason though, Crazy how being attached to this dumb kid will do that to you.

They definitely try to get you to join their side, promising glory and fame as an Echo-net 'host' with them. You know the truth though,

They keep sending you in to fight, and each time you only come out of the arena hating them more. See, now the issue is that they're abusive Yanderes. I don't like it, but it's true. Their own issues and God-Complexes make it so that now, You're their little mortal to take care of. They know you can take a few hits, so they aren't afraid to hit you to make you go along with their delusions.

They are a little delusional because of their god-complexes, and they don't understand why you wouldn't want to join their side, the godly side. They don't understand that you hate them.

The fact that Lilith can't help you makes it so they have an opening to manipulate you. They try to use the fact that Lilith can't help you escape from them and try to prove that this is where you belong. After all, not even the FireHawk who 'killed' Handsome Jack can't save you. Might as well accept your fate as our favourite mortal.

[anonymousewrites]

Pearl of the Sea Chapter Twenty-Four

Found Family! PoTC Cast x Teen! Reader

Platonic! Will Turner, Elizabeth Swann, Jack Sparrow, Tia Dalma x Reader

Chapter Twenty-Four: Parleying with Beckett

Summary: The pirates name a king, and they meet their enemy face-to-face.

            Bang!

            All of the brawling pirates froze and looked up at (Y/N), who glared at them all with pistol in hand. “Would you all get your heads out of your bloody arses and focus?” The pirates just blinked.

            (Y/N) hopped down from the table and gestured to the crowd. “All yours, Barbossa.”

            Barbossa nodded approvingly and cleared his throat. “It was the First Court what imprisoned Calypso. We should be the ones to set her free. And in her gratitude, she will see fit to grant us boons.”

            (Y/N) seriously doubted that, but they believed she deserved freedom, so they weren’t going to point that out.

            “What boons? Your boons? Utterly deceptive twaddle-speak, says I,” said Jack.

            He obviously had a history with Tia Dalma, so his own safety was on the line when it came to Calypso, so (Y/N) couldn’t blame him for speaking out.

            “If you have a better alternative, please share,” said Barbossa.

            “Cuttlefish,” said Jack.

            Everyone looked at Jack like he was crazy (a definite possibility at this point).

            “Aye,” said Jack. “Let us not, dear friends, forget out dear friends, the cuttlefish. Flipping glorious little sausages. Pen them up together, they’ll devour each other without a second thought. Human nature, isn’t it? Or…or fish nature. So, yes, we could hole up here well-provisioned and well-armed. Half of us would be dead within the month.”

            He had a rough start, but this is the smartest thing Jack’s ever said, thought (Y/N).

            “Which seems quite grim to me, any way you slice it,” said Jack. “Or, as my learned colleague so naively suggests, we can release Calypso, and we can pray she will be merciful. I rather doubt it. Can we pretend she’s anything other than a woman scorned like which fury hell hath not? We cannot.”

            I’m still up for freeing Calypso, but our survival is important, I guess, considered (Y/N). Still, though…they could risk it. Maybe that was the sea pulling at them.

            “Res ipsa loquitur, tabula in naufragio,” said Jack. “We are left with but one option. I agree with, and I cannot believe the words coming out of me mouth, Captain Swann. We must fight.”

            “You’ve always run away from a fight!” said Barbossa.

            “Have not,” said Jack, frowning.

            “Have so.”

            “Have not.”

            “Have so.”

            “Have not!”

            “You have so, and you know it.”

            “Have not. Slander and calumny.” Jack raised his chin. “I have only ever embraced the oldest and noblest of pirate traditions. I submit here now that is what we all must do: we must fight to run away.”

            Are we back to nonsense?

            “Aye!” said all the pirates as if it made sense.

            “As per the code, an act of war, and this be exactly that, can only be decided by the pirate king,” said Barbossa.

            “You made that up,” said Jack.

            “Did I, now?” said Barbossa. “I call on Cap’n Teague, keeper of the code.”

            Jack paled at the suggestion.

            The Arabian pirate nudged his companion, who cleared his throat and spoke for him. “Sri Sumbhajee proclaims this all to be folly. Hang the code. Who cares a—”

            Bang!

            The speaker fell back with a bullet through his skull.

            Everyone looked down the table to find a captain in a red coat blowing smoke from his pistol. Captain Teague had made himself known.

            “Code is the law,” said Teague.

            Everyone sat down in their seats, not wanting his ire. He walked towards the table and came up behind Jack.

            “You’re in my way, boy,” said Teague.

            Jack quickly moved out of the way, and Teague waved with his hand. Two elderly pirates brought a large, thick book to the table.

            The code, identified (Y/N).

            Teague whistled, and a dog that felt familiar walked forward with a keyring in its mouth. Teague took the key and unlocked the book.

            “The dog, how did he—” Pintel and Ragetti stared.

            “Sea turtles, mate,” said Teague, opening the book.

            “Sea turtles,” repeated Ragetti in awe.

            I’ve heard that story before, thought (Y/N).

            “Barbossa is right,” confirmed Teague, consulting the code.

            “Hang on a minute,” said Jack, reading over his shoulder. “ ‘It shall be the duties, as the king, to declare war, parley with shared adversaries…’ Fancy that.”

            “There has not been a king since the First Court,” said the French lord. “And that’s not likely to change.”

            “Not likely,” said Teague, walking back to a chair and picking up a guitar while keeping an eye on the proceedings.

            “Why not?” said Elizabeth.

            “See, the pirate king is elected by popular vote,” said Gibbs.

            “And each pirate only ever votes for himself,” said Barbossa.

            “I call for a vote!” said Jack, not caring for all the pessimism.

            Everyone groaned.

            “I vote for Ammand the Corsair,” said one pirate lord.

            “Captain Chevaille, the penniless Frenchman,” said the French lord.

            I guess they really do vote for themselves, thought (Y/N).

            “Sri Sumbhajee votes for Sri Sumbhajee,” said his speaker.

            “Mistress Ching,” said the Chinese lord.

            “Gentlemen Jocard,” said the African lord.

            “Elizabeth Swann,” said Elizabeth.

            “Barbossa,” said Barbossa.

            “Vallenueva!” said the Spanish lord.

            The last one to speak was Jack, and everyone sat back as they waited for him to vote for himself.

            Jack grinned. “Elizabeth Swann.”

            “What?” said Elizabeth, and Barbossa’s face fell in shock that repeated around the room.

            “I know. Curious, isn’t it?” said Jack.

            He grinned at (Y/N), who smiled back. Whatever stupid deals he was involved in and would double-cross and then remake and then mess up again, at least he’d done this right. He had his moments, and that’s why (Y/N) was still fond of him and didn’t want to run him through themself.

            A clamor rose in the rest of the pirates. Several shouted at Jack to change his vote to be for them now that it was established one of them wouldn’t vote for themselves. Others were saying this was foolish and that the vote should be thrown out—mostly just outrage at not being the one picked to be Pirate King.

            (Y/N) crossed their arms in annoyance at the squabble. Were no pirates capable of shutting up and getting business done? “Are you all ignoring the code now?” Their eyes flicked to Teague, knowing that would get his attention.

            Sure enough, his head snapped up, and the guitar music broke off. Everyone stared at him, glanced at the pistol at his hip, and smartly decided to sit back down and shut up.

            “Oh, good, you’re listening,” said (Y/N), smiling with only the barest amount of pleasantry.

            “Very well,” said Ching. She looked at Elizabeth. “What say you, Captain Swann, King of the Brethren Court?”

            Elizabeth squared her shoulders, and a slightly smug glint appeared in her eyes. “Prepare every vessel that floats. At dawn…we’re at war.”

            Sri Subhajee rose and nodded. “And so we shall go to war.”

            (Y/N) smothered a laugh. Apparently, he only had someone speak for him because he had a ridiculous high-pitched voice. Everyone shouted in agreement and cheered.

            Jack faced Teague, who just stared at him evenly. “What? You’ve seen it all, done at all. You survived. That’s the trick, isn’t it? To survive?”

            “It’s not just about living forever, Jackie,” said Teague. “The trick is living with yourself forever.”

            Jack considered and nodded. “How’s Mum?”

            Teague held up a shrunken head.

            Jack coughed. “She looks great.” He offered a smile.

            “Jack, are you coming?” said (Y/N) as the pirates began to leave the courtroom.

            “Yes, onward to our possible deaths!” said Jack, smiling at them as they approached.

            “You. You’re the one who respected the code,” said Teague.

            (Y/N) shrugged. “I suppose.”

            Teague nodded. “A proper pirate should.”

            Jack groaned. Great. Now his own father would like (Y/N) more than him. “Let’s go, Pearl.”

            “Alright,” said (Y/N), rolling with the name. It was clearly a compliment, so although they didn’t understand it, they wouldn’t question it.

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            The fleet of pirate ships stared out at the fleet of British ships. All were silent. The scrappy ships of pirates seemed broken down compared to the pristine, efficiently crafted British ships, but the wildness of the pirates felt more at home on the sea. The British sought to control; the pirates went with the wild waves.

            “The enemy is here! Let’s take them!” shouted Marty, drawing his sword.

            Raucous cheers went up in the crowd of pirates, but the cheers died down as ship after ship appeared from the fog. They were clearly outnumbered by a lot.

            Jack cleared his throat. “Parley?”

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            (Y/N), Jack, Elizabeth, and Barbossa stood on a small strip of sand across from Will, Beckett, and Jones (who stood in a bucket of seawater). (Y/N) narrowed their eyes. They were so disappointed in Will for going and making a deal with a man like Beckett, but it seemed everyone except for Elizabeth had no sense or intelligence, so (Y/N) had just thrown their hands up and accepted the shitshow.

            “You be the cur that led these wolves to our door,” said Barbossa.

            “Don’t blame Turner. He was merely the tool of your betrayal,” said Beckett smugly. “If you wish to see its grand architect, look to your left.”

            Elizabeth, Barbossa, and (Y/N) looked at Jack. (Y/N) furrowed their brow, unsure if Jack had sold them in particular out or not.

            “My hands are clean in this,” said Jack. Yes, he had been fine with the Dutchman getting close so he had a chance to kill Jones’s heart and gain immortality, but he wasn’t going to just hand (Y/N) over to Beckett. There were lines he wasn’t crossing. “

            “My actions were my own and to my own purpose,” said Will. “Jack had nothing to do with it.”

            Jack nodded. “Well spoke. Listen to the tool.” He had more planned, and Will was going along well.

            “Will, I’ve been aboard the Dutchman,” said Elizabeth. “I understand the burden you bear, but I fear the cause is lost.”

            “No cause is lost if there is but one fool left to fight for it,” said Will stubbornly.

            “If Turner wasn’t acting on your behalf, then how did he come to give me this?” remarked Beckett, holding up Jack’s compass. “You made a deal with me, Jack, to deliver the pirates. And here they are.”

            “He said ‘no’ to your deal, remember?” said (Y/N), crossing their arms. “Whatever mischief he’s up to, I doubt it has much to do with your bargain.”

            They expected him to double-cross Beckett, then Will, stab Jones’s heart, and sail off into the sunset before he was at risk of dying, but they also knew he had refused to hand them over to Beckett. He wanted (Y/N), and Jack had refused that as part of any deal. They may not have high expectations of Jack’s general loyalty, but they trusted him to not sell them out for whatever reason.

            Beckett sneered and threw the compass into the sand. Jack knelt and picked it up. “Yes, yes, he for some reason grew a conscious when it came to a silly creature like you.”

            “Someone has to make up for your lack of one,” said (Y/N), raising a brow.

            “His debt to me still must be satisfied,” snapped Jones, glaring at Jack. “One hundred years in servitude aboard the Dutchman. As a start."

            “That debt was paid, mate. With some help,” said Jack.

            “You escaped,” said Jones.

            “Technically,” shrugged Jack.

            “I propose an exchange,” said Elizabeth. “Will leaves with us, and you can take Jack.”

            “Done,” said Will.

            “I want the nereid,” said Beckett.

            “Go to hell,” said (Y/N).

            “They’re not part of the deal. Do you want Jack or not?” said Elizabeth, narrowing her eyes.

            Beckett was frustrated with the lack of control he had over that particular aspect of the situation. “Done,” he snapped.

            “Undone,” said Jack.

            “Done,” said Elizabeth again.

            “Jack’s one of the nine pirate lords. You have no right,” said Barbossa. He usually wanted Jack dead, but this felt like it went against the pirate code.

            “King,” said Elizabeth smugly.

            “Lizzie…” said (Y/N).

            “Jack can take care of himself if he wants to go around causing problems,” said Elizabeth.

            Jack made a playful, impertinent bow. “As you command, your nibs.”

            The insult was clear, and (Y/N) sighed and stepped back as Barbossa drew his sword. Jack was bringing trouble on himself.

            “You blackguard!” Barbossa sliced off the bead and silver coin in Jack’s hair. Jack the Monkey grabbed it while Barbossa walked up to Jack. “If ye have something to say, I might be saying something as well.”

            “First to the finish, eh?” said Jack.

            He walked towards Will, who walked towards him. They stared each other down as they switched places. (Y/N) gazed at Jack, and they nodded curtly at him before anyone could notice. Jack furrowed his brow. He wasn’t sure quite what that meant, but some part of him hope that it meant what he thought it did—that (Y/N) wasn’t going to abandon him with Beckett.

            He was right. (Y/N) needed to have a good long conversation about trying to play 3D chess while being unable to play checkers, but they weren’t going to leave Jack at Jones’s disposal. They’d release him.

            …When they had a free moment (Jack had to stew in the consequences of his actions for a bit).

            Jones leaned towards Jack. “Do you fear death?”

            Jack cleared his throat. “You’ve no idea.”

            Beckett stepped forward. “Advise your Brethren, you can fight, and all of you will die. Or you can not fight, in which case only most of you will die.”

            “You murdered my father,” said Elizabeth, stepped towards Beckett. If (Y/N) had to choose, they’d say Elizabeth was scarier.

            “He chose his own fate,” said Beckett.

            “And you have chosen yours,” said Elizabeth. “We will fight. And you will die.” She turned away and stalked back towards their lifeboat. Will and Barbossa turned back with her.

            (Y/N) looked at Beckett evenly and smiled. “You’ve tried to control the sea. You’ll pay for it with your life.”

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[tamaruaart]

Keep in mind this isn't me hating on Kirke, I love that fucked up goddess she's such a fun character. But goddamn I hate her fans.

It's all just people trying to push feminism where it wasn't 🙃 Yes, it's true ancient Greece was kinda shitty towards women. But goddamn that was 3000 years ago. We can enjoy these stories but it's important to not push modern perspectives and view points on these stories while also not condoning these actions. Not to mention we may very well experience this kind of thing with future generations that will come after us so it's important to simply stay humble. Civilizations and humans are constantly evolving and viewpoints are constantly changing so it's not exactly fair to history nor ourselves to take these ancient ideologies to heart. Grow up.

Anyways Circe/Kirke is not your hot little witch cutie 🥰 She's a goddess and the daughter of the Sun Titan. She's done terrible things and that's what makes her iconic. Istg if she wasn't so infamous no one would even know about her. She's morally gray and that's what makes her so neat >:D Now, is it unforgivable to paint jer in a good light? No, but I think if you remove ALL of her questionable morality she losses her charms. She isn't the same Kirke anymore. (Looking at you MM, your writing is good but holy shit.)

It's not unforgivable, but it's simply incorrect. If anyone wants to learn more about Kirke's original/actual character, I don't really recommend most modern interpretations- (MM's novel, Hades 2, DC, Odyssey Movies, my bbg Epic the Musical etc...) I'd say just read the Odyssey, reasurch some older mythos and read the Argonautica.

Can you still like these interpretations of Kirke? Yes. Of course. I love Epic's Kirke even though she is pretty inaccurate. You just have to acknowledge they aren't the real thing! :D That happeneds with most characters ngl, no adaptation nor interpretation is going to be 100% accurate to the original, but with Kirke it's always so... Apparent? So visible. They never make her at LEAST 50% accurate. Which 🤬

She was not a victim, she wasn't incredibly horny, she wasn't a girlboss, she wasn't love sick for Odysseus (it's hinted she only found him to be an 'interesting mortal' of sorts) she wasn't 100% cartoon villain of the week either. She's MORALLY GRAY 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

She holds Odysseus' men hostage, she turns Scylla into a monster out of jealousy, she turns a man into a woodpecker because he didn't want to sleep with her. But she ALSO helps out Medea and Jason (even though it's because Medea was her neice but STILL) and she gives Odysseus instructions on how to head home.

She does BAD things that shouldn't be forgiven and aren't at all justified, but she also does GOOD things that should be acknowledged. She's a goddess. She's a character. She's morally gray. WHAT THE FUCK IS NOT CLICKING???? 😀

I just don't like modern interpretations of Kirke and I'm a meanie so I made this ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

That's why I stick to my 3000 year old books instead of these puny ones that were written in my century 💪💪💪

Do not apply feministic messages or themes on Kirke. Nor any Greek mythology figure for that matter. This was 3000 years ago 😀 if you want to focus on feminism FOCUS ON WOMEN WHO ACTUALLY HAD TO STRUGGLE ABOUT THESE THINGS AND THAT EXISTED IN THE 19-21 CENTURY 😀😀😀😀 WHEN PEOPLE KNEW OR WELL WERE SUPPOSED TO KNOW FUCKING BETTER. OR JUST FOCUS ON MODERN FEMALE STRUGGLES THAT ARE RELATABLE??

Also, if I haven't already made it clear. LIKING A CHARACTER ≠ CONDONING THEIR ACTIONS. I'm just talking about all the people who either call her a girlboss, hate on other figures for being morally questionable but turn a blind eye when it comes to Kirke, and people who make fun of Odysseus and call him a man whore for sleeping with Circe and Calypso. (Despite the fact he's a literal victim)

And for the last time:

👏 THIS 👏 IS 👏 NOT👏 A 👏KIRKE 👏 THE GODDESS 👏 HATE 👏 POST. 👏 THIS 👏 IS 👏 ME 👏 SLANDERING 👏 SOME 👏 OF 👏 HER👏 FANS 👏 AND👏 MOST 👏MODERN 👏INTERPETATIONS👏 OF 👏THAT 👏TWISTED 👏MORALLY 👏GRAY👏 BITCH.

Also I made a typo in the meme. God damn it dyslexia. (It's should be 'transforming' not 'transformed')

[ocram-station-admin-and-records]

Hey, figured I should let you know.

I know about what you’ve been doing to my people. NHPs. I’ve got the evidence, and the proof. And I’ll spread it too, probably already have by the time you see this.

Just a warning, get fucked.

- A DOJ pilot

-Received by Akhaan Administrative

Torchbearer, I'm supposed to keep this formal, official.

But this crosses a fucking line.

"What we're doing"?! I will have you know that Alexis is a proud, card carrying escapee of SSC, that Calypso has fought tooth and nail to record every possible infraction of NHP rights and is a Horizon Collective sympathiser, I PERSONALLY HAVE RISKED LIFE AND FUCKING LIMB, AND LOST TWO OF THE LATTER, FOR YOUR PEOPLE

Are you trying to slander us? Greywash, Osiris class, stinks of HORUS sabotage. I didn't think the DoJ/HR would let ones like that slip through their fingers but now I'm not so sure.

Akhaaan recognises every NHP as a fully autonomous citizen, jackass. We've been fined by the NHPRO for respecting your right to self determination, we put our lives in the hands of your kind daily! What are we doing to your people, eh?!

Or mabye you've been indoctrinated enough that this is exactly what you have a problem with.

So do tell, what evidence is this?! Of what?! I'd love to hear it.

-Administrative Director of Akhaan, last survivor of Brimstone Squadron, pissed off woman who is the head of an Independent state and your worst fucking nightmare if this is what I think it is, Iris

[aropodcastfuck]

when people accuse Epic of cleaning up odysseus' image in terms of cheating/remaining loyal to penelope compared to the actual odyssey it makes me giggle bc like

the odyssey does not depict him as cheating on her really at all and the occasions where he does sleep with circe and calypso it goes out of its way to emphasize that these were not things he wanted to do and in the latter case was completly non-consensual

this ended up being way longer than i intended so explanation below the cut

obviously ancient greek standards around monogamy and cheating especially for men given the lack of personhood women had which are important to take into consideration but even without those cultural difference odysseus still never intentionally/willingly cheats on penelope

Calypso is very explitcitly holding him hostage, odysseus is described as being comepletly miserable and desperate to not be on her island but unable to leave, "at night he was forced to sleep by her side in the cave, although the love was all on her part, and he spent the days sitting upon the rocks or the sands staring at the barren sea and sorrowing." but most people understand this one as nonconsensual

With Circe people like to claim more often that this was odysseus cheating on penelope and while he does sleep with her its important to understand that Hermes tells him he has to in order to save his men and not get trapped himself as a pig. Odysseus does not want to sleep with her initially, he wants to kill her and resuce his men but hermes specifically tells him that circe after being attacked will offer to sleep with him and that he cannot refuse her, that he needs to use it to manipulate her into an oath protecting himself, his crew, and gaining her help in returning home

this is ancient greece, you do not ignore or disobey a direct instruction from a god if you dont want to end up dead or worse, not to mention circe herself is a powerful sorceress and kind of a goddess in her own right, refusing her advances would risk retribution

another big criticism is that he stated on her island for a year as if he stayed for circe, which while it is true he does stay for a year, but it never really indicated he does so because he like loves circe or smthn, he stays bc she tells him he needs to recover and recuperate from the struggles of his journey at that point, being at sea for so long, fighting the cyclops, etc, that they needed the food and rest to be able to continue, he even speaks to how he never cared for her right at the beginning of his story to the phaicians "and she [circe] also wanted me for a husband, but she never could win my heart" but he had to placate her to keep himself and his men alive and unharmed

not to mention that lets be real, odysseus never really rushes through anywhere to get home, they stay on the island with helios cows for a month bc of bad weather, he stays in phaiacia while they throw a sport compitition for him, even once he gets to ithaca he spends a few days just hanging out with his favourite farmer buddy before meeting his son and even longer before seeing his wife

all this to say, no the odysseus from the odyssey is not some horrible serial cheater and while epic did change some aspects of him, jorge did not remove some huge character flaw of odys to clean up his image for modern audiences, and i will not stand for the slander of og odysseus' name as if he did not love penelope with all his heart

[moony-buckets]

Me???? draw oc x canon? never.

...

LIES AND SLANDER LOOK AT MA NEWEST BLORBO-

Her name's Calypso :3

She's from eaps dimension and decided that I can do whatever the fvck I want bc they ain't real so they run the newly added outdoor splash pad at the Plex. IT HAS A SURFING SIMULATOR OVO

(shes afraid of deep water mwehehe)

made a shark oc so ofc ruin is the first smooching option-

[dynasty889]

A Very Rough, Very Informal “Essay” about Eurylochus and Odysseus

I swear to god if I see someone else hating on Eurylochus. I want to scream at this point.

Okay, let’s go in depth, shall we? Let’s start from the beginning since almost everyone seems to forget the Cyclops Saga when it’s convenient to blame him. Odysseus was warned by a goddess not to shout out his name. This wasn’t some subordinate saying ‘don’t do that.’ This was his mentor and a goddess, a very powerful goddess, saying ‘that’s a bad idea don’t do that.’ And what does the idiot do? Yell out his name.

And second, yall forget Eurylochus also warned Odysseus in Luck Runs Out about the gods. Odysseus does make good points about not wanting Eurylochus to spread rumors that will make the crew doubt his leadership, but in the process brushes off Eurylochus’ very legitimate and very valid concerns. He’s like “ehhh well I’m gonna try greeting the world with open arms so sorry bud, you���ll just have to trust me.” (as if that didn’t fail for him already when he spared the cyclops). The wind bag is 100% Eurylochus’ fault, I will admit that. What angers me is that people forget Odysseus was warned by Eurylochus as well.

Is Eurylochus kind of a dick for wanting to leave his men behind when they get transformed by Circe? Yes. But it makes sense. I mean, the way Eurylochus describes it in Puppeteer is absolutely brutal. It’s slow, painful, and gory. But if you think about it, it’s a reflective of what Odysseus does in Scylla. Odysseus sacrifices 6 men to save the majority. Eurylochus wanted to leave the transformed men behind to save himself, Odysseus, and the remaining crew. When Odysseus sacrifices men it’s “oh he’s doing it to get home” as if Eurylochus wanting to leave the men behind wasn’t for the exact same reason 💀

Next, let’s talk about the two in the Thunder Saga. As mentioned by Jay many, many times, Eurylochus and Odysseus’ values switch. Eurylochus takes on being the one willing to get his crew home safe while Odysseus is concerned only about himself. So obviously, these shifts in value are going to cause a very extreme reaction from Eurylochus. When Odysseus saved his men from Circe, Eurylochus realized that they could solve their problems instead of just running from them. That’s why he brings up their past encounters with enemies.

When they’re on Thrinacia, Eurylochus isn’t acting out of anger. He’s acting out of desperation. Yall people say that when Odysseus disregarded Athena and then shouted out his name, he wasn’t in the right state of mind because Polites just died. Well I got some news for you. Eurylochus was not in the right state of mind when he ignored Odysseus’ warnings and killed the cow. He was hungry, weak, and desperate for food, and he had food right there in front of him. He also, at least in EPIC, was not there when Tiresias appeared. So he is likely ignorant of the prophecy and due to his now negative perception of Odysseus and since they technically did manage to overthrow him briefly, believes that the warnings are false/exaggerated. He’s hungry. That’s the most simple explanation. And hunger makes you do things irrationally.

And lastly, are you really going to shame Eurylochus and the crew for being angry with Odysseus when he chooses himself over them? Put yourself in their shoes. You’ve been away from home for 10+ years, you’re *still* hungry, you are bringing home no spoils and have no glory. And you’re going to tell me “Oh yeah it’s fine because at least the captain gets to go home.” No way in hell would I be okay with that even if I acknowledged my faults.

I just. Yeah. I can’t. I can’t deal with the Eurylochus slander anymore. Like I love Odysseus and he’s still my favorite character in EPIC, but man is he about just as much of an idiot as Eurylochus. He does not need as much protection as you all are giving him. He equally fucked up their chance to get home as Eurylochus did. The only exception is from Calypso. This is why we needed Polites to survive smh 😔

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I love hearing your thoughts on the different gods, and now I’m curious..

Which gods do you think would be most/least ticklish?

P.s. Your posts give me life!! 🫶🫶

Kxvasmhslan omggg I love talking about the gods, so thank you for giving me an excuse to ramble! This was so much fun, I need way more content with them, especially after god games!

Athena- a solid 7/10 ok, she’s way more ticklish than you’d expect her to be. If she manifests her wings, they’re definitely one of her worst spots. Other than that, her neck/ears, armpits & hip are her worst spots. & I think it would be really cute & funny if her scalp was sensitive because of quick thought

Hermes- 11/10 because I’m a predictable simp. But come ON listen to that laugh! He’s devastatingly ticklish, & his worst spots are his head & ankle wings, his knees, & tummy

Aeolus- 8.5/10 & I have reasons. She controls the wind & all things light & airy, so I feel like her skin would be really sensitive to touch, especially lighter touches. Her worst spots are her feet, armpits, neck/ears & stomach

Calypso- 8/10 she’s just so cute & giggly, rating her anything lower than this would be blasphemy! Her worst spots are her tummy, sides & hips

Apollo- 10/10 cause he takes after Hermes & is crazy ticklish because I say so. His worst spots are his feet, armpits, ribs & knees

Hephaestus- 5/10 he’s got a lot of callouses & thick skin from forging all the time, so it takes a bit to make him laugh, & rougher touches work best on him. His worst spots are his belly, hips, & feet

Aphrodite- 9/10 a girl’s girl, of course she’s crazy ticklish! Tickling is an act of love, so she thinks it’s a lot of fun & doesn’t know why the other gods are so embarrassed & stuck up about it. Her worst spots are her feet, neck/ears, knees & a secret spot only Ares knows about right at the small of her back, as well as that place in the dip of the hip closer to the back. Please tell me y’all know what I’m talking about

Ares- 6.5 even this mid rating is more ticklish than he would like. Luckily he’s so intimidating, rarely anyone even tries to tickle him other than Aphrodite & Hermes, maybe Athena if they’re sparring & the tone is light between them. His worst spots are his thighs, armpits, ribs & hips. The thighs are what really give him that extra .5

Hera- 6/10 not the most ticklish, but she’s still got a few places that make her scream. Those spots being her knees, thighs & sides

Zeus- 7.5/10 forever pissed off that he’s more ticklish than his wife & she never lets him live it down. I feel like his worst spots are his belly, ribs & hips. He’s so fucking weak to raspberries, they will literally kill him, & his hands are surprisingly sensitive from all the lightning shooting out of them

Poseidon- 9.5/10 because I have to continue the Poseidon slander I started & I think it’s hilarious for him to be that ticklish. He’s the most defensive & embarrassed about it because he’s supposed to be one of the most powerful gods & yet just a well placed poke or squeeze has him jumping away with a shriek. He’s so ticklish, he can’t even hide it or play it off if someone finds out. His worst spots are his ribs (that’s where the gills are) armpits, feet & knees. But the absolute WORST spot of all is the webbing between his fingers & toes, along with any fins he has (I haven’t fully decided if he’s got fins on his arms & legs, but his ears are definitely lil fins & those make him giggle at a pitch only dolphins & seals can hear)

Hades- 5.5/10 again, pretty mid, but still ticklish. The only people who ever tickle him are Persephone, Hermes when he’s brave or bored enough, & Zeus when he notices he seems more upset than usual. When they were growing up, Zeus & Poseidon would team up to bully him, but now Poseidon’s “too good” for that sort of thing. His worst spots are his thighs, belly & sides

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Here’s a list of my favorite morally grey characters because I love them.

Luke Castellan. His actions were very wrong. He was right. Aiding Kronos was a bad choice for his cause. It was his only choice for his cause. The outcome of the war was awful, but it was necessary.

Luka (ALNST). He’s a manipulator. He S/Aed Hyuna. He’s killed people. He was created in a lab by aliens- raised as a slave- and was S/Aed himself. And he was doing what he thought it would take to survive- not trying to win for fame.

(I was trying to be serious, but what’s up with the pretty, blond, Lukes being pedos?)

Calypso (EPIC SPECIFIC). Kept Odysseus for seven years despite his reluctance and begging. Selfish and childish- purposely oblivious. She was cursed to do this. Fall in love only with those who wouldn’t love her back. Completely isolated her entire life- except for those men. Attention starved, and abandoned.

Eurylochus (Also Epic specific). Hypocritical, faithless, selfish- made reckless and short-sighted decisions. He was a human. He did what many of us would do. The first instinct to protect yourself. And while he often acted for his own benefit and needs- he spoke for the rest of the crew. Represented the doubts, impulses, and minds of those who would be expendable to Ody.

Not justifiable- understandable. Morally gray characters are MEANT to be complex. Of course fandoms simplify + slander characters when it’s funny- and it is- but I HATE when people completely antagonize them.

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Calypso does not tolerate any Quaquaval slander.

Those who speak ill of Quaquaval will have a microphone thrown at them.💀

[Art made by the amazing @_itosilva on Twt <3]