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Then what's the point of listing triggers and warnings in the first place if you're claiming it's not your responsibility to begin with. I understand the argument but it doesn't negate the fact we have filters, tags and labels. Why have them in existence if nobody should have the responsibility of putting them into action. There is people who make the effort to list triggers etc and there are those who don't. Is one superior than the other for implementing a system that's setup for such use? You yourself have listed triggers etc. If you didn't list them, then what. Ofc we are responsible for curating our own space but then again we are supposed to be also respectful towards one another in shared spaces which includes tagging appropriately
Hmmm...ngl I forgot I reblogged that post (it was queued) and I was totally lost about this ask until I remembered.
Listing triggers or squicks isn't anyone's responsibility. It's a courtesy.
Personally, I do it because I want to be kind to my readers and offer the information necessary to make a choice, especially since some of the stuff I write can be pretty dark, but it's not a necessity. Like the original post said, you as a reader have the choice of whether or not to take the risk to read something. You can choose to not read something that doesn't list warnings, just like you can choose not to watch an R-rated movie that doesn't list anything but a summary.
I don't know if you're completely aware of how much effort it takes to consider everything that could be considered to be an issue to others. I know I assume some things are common sense (like the fact that a relationship in a dark fic was obviously unhealthy) but I've had people tell me to do better in my warnings because people will think it's an ideal one. As if my readers aren't aware of it or are lacking that common sense. Personally, I thought that was a little insulting to my readers, but I agreed that things got darker as the story progressed and from when I first started posting, so I updated it and added a warning for their benefit. I didn't have to though. I made that choice.
If I didn't list triggers or squicks, I would hope that my summary would be enough to make people hesitate, but then again I also hope that when it comes to things like obsession, people use common sense and understand that it's not something to strive for in real life.
I don't think one is better than the other. Sure, it's about being respectful to others, but that goes both ways. If it's lacking a warning, make that choice and don't take the risk that you might be exposed to something you don't like. It's not only on the writers. You don't have to continue. It's not just about curating your own space, but about taking responsibility for your own well-being. If something you're reading does twist into something that you don't like or want to read, close it.
Listing warnings about what's in your fic is a courtesy by the writers, and if they choose not to spoil what's going to happen in it, the readers can choose not to read it. Backtrack if you have to, but don't take it out on artists. Respect and courtesy go both ways.
#why do we have to keep having this conversation#in general i mean#asks#anon#triggers#squicks#tagging triggers or squicks#fic writing#long post
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Right, okay, Iâve thought long and hard whether to write this:
A squick (even a strong one) is not the same as a trigger.
Emotional discomfort, even emotional discomfort that leads to low-level physical symptoms like e.g. mild nausea, is not trauma. Unfortunately, TikTok pop psych has done nothing to help people understand the difference, because the trend to perceive (even strong) emotional discomfort as equivalent to a trauma response is worrying and neither helps people with nor without PTSD. I donât wish it on anyone to actually find out the difference if they havenât yet (disclaimer, since this is unfortunately necessary these days because everything gets misconstrued: I am not talking about individual experiences, because only you can know about those. Iâm talking about wider trends in an often young audience with not enough background info to be able to tell apart sound medical/psychological info and viral BS created by âinfluencersâ for some kind of personal gain).
What people in the current fandom spat want to have tagged as âtriggersâ are overwhelmingly squicks. And weâre probably all guilty of quickly saying âthat triggered meâ, myself included (and Iâm a licensed psychotherapist, shame on me). It has become somewhat of a shorthand for âextremely annoyed or grossed outâ. But when it gets used in the context of tagging, itâs good to remember that no one owes us a tag list the length of our arm just because we donât like certain things. Even if we strongly dislike them.
And even on the occasion someone elseâs yuck or yum is an actual trigger for us, it is impossible to cover for every possible trigger, because in theory, EVERYTHING has the possibility to trigger someone somewhere.
E.g., a certain smell in a supermarket holds the rare possibility of triggering someone, but do you see disclaimers at the supermarket door that say, âMay smell of 484 different things, which are in detail [list of 484 things] and might be different tomorrow. Plus, we might have a customer today who smells of that perfume that brings up your triggering childhood memories. Or maybe we wonât, but just on the odd chance we do, we thought weâd rather cover itâ.
There might be one person with a very specific trigger that does literally nothing to the vast majority of people. Do we expect everyone on Tumblr to tag for âeyebrowsâ or âwhite T-Shirtâ because of that? How about that person just puts âeyebrowsâ or âwhite T-Shirtâ in their content filter instead?
Do we really suggest to put that type of responsibility on creators? More importantly: Who are we protecting that way? All we do is put people into bubble wrap and shift responsibility for our mental wellbeing away from ourselves to others.
We are trying to tell other people what to do for our own comfort. Thatâs controlling.
If weâre squicked out by something, there is a simple solution: we can stop looking or reading. We can use content (not tag) filters. In the worst case, we can block. We donât have to put that type of responsibility for our personal sensitivities on creators (or people who reblog, for that matter).
We can tag for certain things as a courtesy, Iâm all for it. I love being able to filter out stuff Iâm not into, and I sometimes wish people would tag better or not tag a certain way (getting ship tags for a ship youâre not into slapped on your character-metas is annoying đ¤Ł). But I donât die, neither does it cause me unbearable distress, if I see cows where I donât expect them. Scroll past or block. And if Iâm worried about mature topics like nudity or violence: Tumblr has a community label for mature themes you can (and in my view should) use if in doubt. Funnily enough, many people donât do that thoughâmaybe because they worry about reach?
Of course we should include content warnings where they are due, no one says we shouldnât. Itâs also fair if a creator doesnât wish to do that beyond general warnings (no specifics) though because they might give away, say, major plot points that way. In that case, general disclaimers like âcontains depictions of violenceâ, or whatever it might be individually, are a good idea. And if thatâs not specific enough for us despite knowing that âviolenceâ in general might also contain our personal trigger, we might need to make the decision not to read it to stay safe, but we shouldnât have a go at the writer for not tagging very specific things that might be considered spoilers.
Long story short: If we assume people are âtriggeredâ by werewolves with vulvas or non-human characters, it might be worth thinking about whether weâre just talking about squicks that very much fall into the category of âpersonal responsibilityâ. And there are plenty solutions to that at our endâwe donât need to put that on creatorsâŚ
#fandom problems#fandom entitlement#fandom stuff#squicks#vs#triggers#tagging#being grossed out or strongly disliking is uncomfortable#but itâs not the same as being triggered
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Would you guys still love me if I started posting more general Nicktoons (Unite) content along with general DP stuff?
#I am not normal about it#also ofc ill tag anything thats needed for like triggers/squicks or just something you arent interested in#you dont even need to explain why i get it
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Okay but for real if just seeing the tags on a fic triggers you and leaves you in a state of distress so bad that it ruins your day and you end up thinking about it for several days, then you should seriously consider searching for a therapist and looking into trauma therapy. Ruminating (instead of using a healthy coping mechanism to calm down and manage your emotions) is incredibly unhealthy and maladaptive.
#mine#proship#profic#redacted audio#redacted asmr#yeah ill put it in the redacted tags even though this has been in the drafts since january#some people are going to make fics that squick you out or arent your thing thats normal we all have tastes#or even make fics that would trigger you if you read them#but if seeing the word ârapeâ in the tags of a fic leaves you extremely distressed thats abnormal#dont even get me started on the maladaptive behavior thats been normalized in antiship spaces.#you just cant live a healthy life like this.#i have a therapist stamp of approval for this post by the way so nobody try it
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So, the next thing I may end up posting in the coming days, may be my dark!Fadel fic. So, I'm just going to put this out here, if dark stuff isn't for you, please don't read it. Even if you like all my other stuff, don't try to force yourself to read something that isn't for you. I will tag the shit out of it, but I have seen it happen in the past that someone really likes my writing so they will make themselves read my darker stuff too, thinking they can handle it, but it ends badly. So, please, please, please don't do that. Ok?
#the heart killers#thk#darkfic#dark!fadel#fadelkant#i will tag it#and it will have it all laid out#now if you can handle it that's awesome and we will all have a good time#but if it's not for you just skip it#it will most likely be dead dove territory#but i always list out exact squicks in the tags or in the author notes#gotta take care of my community#i am a content warner#i believe in trigger warnings so i will never jump scare you guys
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I thought Armand's amnesia only applied to what happened before being captured but nope. Literally doesn't remember the first time he was raped.
More evidence for my "Armand being run down by slavers in Dehli happened after he was already enslaved", but jesus
#lemon liveblogs#lemon reads tva#I will say for anyone squicked or triggered by this the topic comes up so frequently for this book that you should just block the tva tag#because it's never not going to be there
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#a small lesson in commenting#when you want someone to tag minor things (not triggers but squicks)#like say for instance who is the alpha and whoâs the omega#do NOT lead with an insult#like say âyou need to learn how to tag correctlyâ#also keep the interaction positive#something like âhey I love searching for omega Harry fics so I would love if you would tag who has what secondary gender!â#âthat makes things so easy to find!â#do NOT say something like âtag whoâs the omega so this bs doesnât even show up in my searchâ#it turns out talking this way will not get you the results you want!#hope this helps!#(I know the people who would benefit from this are probably not on tumblr and certainly not following me)#(I knoooooow)#Iâm so sorry to the people who WOULD benefit from those extra tags on my fics#I am⌠not feeling charitable to mean people unfortunately
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i have "pregnancy" "give birth" and "mpreg" blacklisted how do i keep seeing posts about/art of men being pregnant when i go on my special little guy's tag.
#blacklisted as keywords btw not (just) tags. like i've had informative posts abt abortion hidden for example. but not the mpreg art?? đđđ#lately been seeing ppl be spicy and flip it around. genderbend them then get them pregnant. which is equally as gross to me#(*not the ppl who do it or them doing it at all. tbc. this is no judgment abt anyone involved. other than tumblr's blacklisting system ig)#(i'm just very grossed out by anything pregnancy related đđđ like i can only tolerate jokes maybe)#(is squick the word for that?? smth that makes you extremely uncomfortable but isn't like a trigger? yeah that)
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btw y'all if there's any tags you'd like to suggest I add as content warnings for various mw posts, please lmk. I've never gotten into a piece of media with quite so much explicit gore before so idk the proper tagging considerations..
#mouthwashing#like for a lot of this 'gore' is accurae#but then for the more simplified styles or like cartoonish joke doodles it feels like that might not be as triggering?#i mean its certainly less uncomfortable for me - someone who generally prefers my media gore free bc it squicks me out#but i imagine it could still be bad for someone to stumble on some of this stuff without warning yk?#maybe mouthwashing Is the warning tag im looking for lol#going post
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âfr3sh....is it a squick or is it a trigger??â yâall rlly think âm gonna tell ya that????
#ask to tag#fr3sh's barkings#dpdr tag#âwhats youer squick slash trigger fr3shâ GET AWAY FROM MEEERE#why do ppl think theyâre OWED what sets me off !!!!!!! i only trust my homiez with that info !!!!!! NOT the general public of tumblr#like bro. thats for me to know and for you to fuck off about
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So annoying that people donât tag my NOTPs so that itâs harder for me to avoid them đ
 Iâm guessing itâs because the ships in question are somewhat rare-pairs so people think nobody will be bothered by seeing them...?Â
I donât want to dump on any rare-pairs as rare-pair content is rare enough (and I totally understand the pain of that, believe me), but it makes it hard when everyone says âyou should curate your social media experience!â and itâs getting increasingly hard to do so because people wonât tag things đ
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Anyway, if people could tag the ships in their posts so that the rest of us can curate our experience better, that would be great. Thanks!Â
#tagging this as#carver hawke#merrill#for Reasonsâ˘#obviously ship what you like (and i will always tag my own carver & merrill content for people who want to avoid that ship)#but#for those of us who want to avoid ships (or characters) that squick/trigger us#it really helps if you tag them so we can filter them out#thanks!#sorry to be a bitch about this#it happens a lot#and#i'd prefer to avoid unfollowing or blocking people over it#unless i really have to#anyway#sorry again about this#hollyand rants#NOTP
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"This post makes a great blocklist" has done awful things to my psyche. Why do I keep wasting what builds up to hours of my time reading all of this dumb shit just to block people?? It's block and move on, not black and move and block and move and block and move and-
#'if you have an alt account that's because you have something to hide'#'why would you put your gross stuff with your good stuff???'#pick one bitch#'seeing that is triggering to me' okay valid me too#'but if I interacted with someone who happens to like it on their down time I want people to bring it up to me asap'#good for you I guess?? if you bring up my triggers when I am talking about something I like I will bite your head off!!#'fictional gross stuff is gross' 'kill yourself irl'#do#do you hear yourself?#the idea that people genuinely believe it's fine and okay to harass and bully people irl but it's not okay to quietly Make Weird Art is so#o.O#I don't want to see it so I block tags! I filter! I mind my own business!#'I happened to stumble upon an alt account that triggered me-'#I mean this lovingly (no I don't)#where were you that you accidentally found an account with content that triggers you and it JUST SO HAPPENED to bear similarity to a#completely different account...?#assuming that the alt accusation is in good faith- that's a lot of research to put yourself through just to make yourself uncomfortable#assuming that you just saw it and clicked away like anyone seeing trigger/squick content would how would you even KNOW that's an actual alt#and then it just goes back to the 'people put stuff you don't want to see somewhere you don't have to see it'#if they put it somewhere else they're hiding it but if they put it alongside their other stuff they're promoting or glorifying it#I don't need to touch grass I need to touch that unfinished fic I left in the summer of 2019
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I donât know what ship youâre talking about but people calling shishido/nishi3 shippers freaks is what converted me into shipping them
THATS THE ONE. It was instantaneous. I hadnât even thought about them as a ship until I saw what folks were saying đ like I love toxic ships and I missed that one entirely, thanks for pointing it out! The whumper/whumpee dynamic alone is to die for! And them both being forced into the daidoji together??? Oh man, that shit hits. Two men who could not have been on more uneven footingâ one who tortured the other, who turned the other into a monster by making his life a living hellâ suddenly thrust into a situation where they need each other to survive, because thereâs no one else around them they could ever trust? Itâs like the jock and the geek he bullied both moving to the same new school and becoming friends because theyâre the only familiar thing they have to cling to, but turned up to eleven. I dig it, man
#she speaks#like obv I have my own squicks and I donât begrudge folks having theirs#but being nasty to people just for shipping two lines of code?#nah I ainât about that#ship and let ship my friends#and use the filter function if you see something you donât like#I donât often write these ships because I donât think I have the chops to really commit#but thereâs nothing better than reading a fic that hits the dynamic right on the money#yakuza gaiden spoilers#spoilers#toxic relationship#and now#Iâm the interest of tagging my shit#in* the interest of tagging my shit#and hopefully#with enough tags ahead of it to keep#it out of#the main tag if one even exists#but so the filter will catch it because#I donât wanna trigger folks who#donât like the ship#for their own reasons#because Iâm not about that either#and again I donât begrudge folks their squicks#I just think itâs dumb to be nasty to folks for shipping pixels#shishido/nishi3
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i am reminded of the time i was told "boundaries are something you make in response to other people's actions that upset you. it is not expectations you can place on other people to control their actions. "
#are your boundaries really being ignored or are you just not being catered to in a totally benign way#not liking something does not mean it's like morally wrong lol#like if you're legit triggered by something or squicked you can just ask people to tag
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"Rating system" is insane. Btw. Commercialism has rotted yalls brains
Ao3 does not need an algorithm, you're just lazy
Ao3 does not need a 1-5 star rating system, you just want to bring down authors writing for FREE
Ao3 does not need automatic censorship, it is an archive, therefore anything can be posted
Writing or reading about something illegal does not mean the author nor the reader condones it, if that were true, you could never read a story involving anything negative
Purity culture is ruining fan culture and you all are fucking annoying
#the only change id make to ao3 are permanent personal filters#so i could filter out a tag forever and never have to do it again#kinda like tumblr has#itd be way more convenient#and i could avoid consistent squicks and triggers
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My heart is with everyone who enjoys x reader smut fics but is also seriously repulsed by extremely common things and ends up not being able to read the majority of smutty fics on tumblr btw
#and I can't even ask people to tag it so I can avoid it because it's so insanely ubiquitous and I think people would be kind of pissed#what's the female equivalent of an anti boner?#let's bring back the word Squick#it's not as strong as a trigger but I can't watch it or read about it#and I would rather rip all my hair out by the roots than ever do it in real life
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