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You know I realized Yuri trying to speedrun life and was him trying to stop being a burden to his sister, but I never realized the reason he did a 180 on her dating may have been partially because the guy she ended up with had a kid and he was of the mindset of 'noooooo she just got free from raising kids and the horrible burden we/they are'

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This page from an Artbook from Rwby that was released around V4/V5 is pretty interresting to me. It Says that Arryn Zech (Blake's VA) Talked this about Illia: "that's something a Lot of gay Kids Go through, pining after their Straight friend". She was talking about Blake. If that's the case, Arryn thought that Blake was a Straight girl. Which tecnicly means that Arryn didn't knew about Bumbleby or Blake sexuality, só everthing About them knowing Bumbleby since the beginning it's Unlikely.

"Oh but maybe she lied"

Does that mean that people who brought this book recieved a Straight up Lie?? They spent money Into something that isn't true? Isn't this lack of Profissionalism?

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to be frank arryn has always been far too vocal on how she shipped bb , so I couldnt imagine her being able to lie like this and say that

CRWBY Made a excuse saying that Sun was suppose to bê Just a crush for Blake. BUT Jesus Christ you don't Work and Focus on a character for 5 Years If he is Just a crush

you don't give years of mutual attraction teasing and development for just a crush ( while bb got nothing until a while after sun left

at which point they had been teased harder then

not to mention bb got nothing until v6 finale at best v7 at worst ( to be honest given the nonexistent stuff from v1-v6 its okay not to see v6 finale or the plane scene as romantic. ( some bb shippers argue that if you saw the renora scene as romantic you need to see the bb scene ignoring the subtle differences ( head on shoulders scene song about noras love, and a scene focused on them. yang holding blakes hand can be seen as her comforting . ) and renora getting years of buildup).

from v7 onwards they started pushing it harder than Blacksun without having the time to have romantic moments without happening at some inappropriate moments

its literally nothing more than a deflection

For perspective, Belle and Edward from Twilight was planned from the beginning and that romance is memed about how bad it is

vice versa, Dana Terrace from Owl House admitted she didn't initially plan for Luz and Amity to be a thing, but felt that was the naturally progression of her story. And it became a well received lesbian romance

The one and only reason the "Bumblebee was planned from the start" take is echoed so constantly is because it so obviously wasn't. Deep down even the bee fans know it wasn't, they know it was woven into the story because the fans obsessed over it so much. So when you criticize elements of the show where Bumblebee made things worse because of how unearned and shoe horned in. The gaslighting take was that "Bumblebee wasn't shoe horned in, it was always meant to be a thing"

I have no other reason than to believe it was solely because the characters were attractive together

I mean I've heard so many Bee fans, literally so many, claim they "knew" with so much certainty Blake and Yang were gonna hook up as early as volume 1 when Yang and Ruby went to go talk to Blake the night before the emerald forest

and it baffles me for 2 reasons. 1) Yang and Blake barely even had any kind of chemistry in that scene. Or even the volume general

and 2) There was far more chemistry building up between Ruby and Blake.

Now obviously I'm not saying the writers intended any sexual or romantic connection between Ruby and Blake

but when you look step by step. How Blake stood up to Weiss for Ruby prior to that scene, Ruby kinda low key admiring Blake saying "That girl", calling her all mysterious in the Emerald Forest

its at least something

Frankly volume I felt like Blake and Yang were kind of the 2 kids in class that didn't have a partner so the teacher partnered them up together. But ever since volume 1, I remember very vividly how absolutely certain Bee fans were of these two. And I remember Barbara talking about Bumblebee when it was only volume 1 and how big the ship was even then

And I can only surmise it has to be because people found them attractive.

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WE'RE DIPPING OUR TOES INTO THE NIGHTMARE AREN'T WE? CAN SOMEONE JUST PUSH ME INTO THE WATER ALREADY?

Endeavor was trying to stop him, but it was too late. He was set into doing what he was born to do, nothing could make him change his mind.

Ironically, it was Endeavor's fault in two fronts: one by making him focused into that objective, and the second by passing down to him the stubbornness.

Wonder if he also gave him the vendetta against roads.

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I think that a lot of the notions I had about what happened in the past weren't exactly as I thought.

Dabi says how Endeavor throw his away when he was no longer useful, when he couldn't fulfill his dreams, and yeah, to Dabi this is exactly what happened. He was a child, he couldn't understand what was going on. And now, we know the actual details of what he claimed, that is, Endeavor aimed at having a child with the mixed quirk, but it seemed like his real reason wasn't to surpass All might. his actual focus was to make Toya give up, because otherwise he would die trying to achieve something that was impossible.

Natsuo was the next one, and he doesn't have the mixed quirk, so they tried again, and got Shoto, who has it. And Shoto wasn't born to fulfill a destiny, but to save his brother. But, as we know, things didn't go that way, and it looks like after Toya "died" Shoto got handled the original burden, and we get to where the story started.

I think this is honestly far worse than "Endeavor is a monster and he abused his family for his own gain." That is simple, straight to the point. The truth was far harder to explain, even if in the end the results were exactly that.

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I feel we're approaching the final moments of Toya. It was during winter, wasn't it?

And Endeavor really tried to save him, but it was already too late. His words had already poisoned his mind, ingrained deep into his heart. He couldn't put out that flame that he lit.

His attempts to fix what he begun only made things worse, I mean

He made Toya for a purpose, and now he was saying he couldn't do it, and he would try with another kid.

Even with the context, even knowing he was trying to stop him for his own good, it does look pretty messed up.

BABY SHOTO SPOTTED

I'M TRYING TO DISTRACT MYSELF FROM THIS HELL

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Are you ready for a world of pain? No I'm not talking about forcing you to read my writing, that might come later, what I actually mean is, it's time for BNHA. And considering last time we just had the hellish family join together after so long, we can assume things are only gonna get more and more painful from now on. And would you look at that, there's no chapter title available for me, this does not bode well. Not one bit. So get ready for Chapter 301, which might as well be the Todoroki family not good terribly bad reunion for all I know.

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Oh boy

Ooohhhhhhh boy. I see how it is now...

So this is the farthest that we need to go back to understand the domino effect that lead to where we are now. And it looks like it is right as they met.

...met for an arranged marriage that is. Okay, so Rei's family was a really traditional one, with all the unfortunate parts that would entail for us that are used to modern customs.

I'm already picking up a bottle of vodka if you don't mind

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Starting immediately with Chapter 302: The wrong way to put out a fire, part 2.

No time to waste, we need to see it through. We need to find closure.

And so, the way down to hell continues...

wait- WAIT WHAT

WASN'T THAT WHERE HE DIED? DUDE HE FUCKING TRIED TO KILL SHOTO THERE, AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT EVEN MORE HAPPENED AFTER THAT?!

BABY SHOTO SPOTTED AGAIN

Also, I think that's exactly where you went wrong Endeavor. You tried so much to keep him away, rather than showing him that you loved him regardless of him not being able to fulfill your ambitions

Honestly, what the fuck dude.

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Some people were upset when this chapter came out, saying that Hori was character assassinating Dabi. I think they were confused Canon with Fanon

That particular distinction causing arguments is a pain shared between most fandoms. Especially Christianity.

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So, i went searching through Tumblr the response to mha chapter 293. Most people were talking about Bakugo's hero name, but here are some reactions to the Todo family drama.

• Calling Deku and Best Jeanist abuse apologist (Jean man for criticizing Dabi for exposing the family past for his personal goals)

•Saying that horikoshi ruined this plot thread by making Endeavour a "good guy" by making Dabi be worse and Shoto, who still undecided a "good victim"

•Some People (Dabi simps, most likely) just cheering Dabi on as if he's not trying to kill Shoto and anyone else, really. And defending him by just throwing all the blame at Endeavour.

Oh so it was even funnier than I expected, I see.

God, can't really understand people who want to erase the bad actions of a character so they can feel like it is morally right to like them. If you truly loved that character you would be in the frontlines saying "yes they did all that. And even worse!" cowards!

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One time in highschool our teacher said that it was never under any circumstances okay for a boy to hit a girl and I asked “not even in self defense?” and he said “no” so I pointed to the kid next to me and said “so if I just started whaling on this guy then he’d just have to take it? What the hell” and he was like “you two have had the same homeroom for three years do you not know his name” and I was like “that’s not the point right now” and Mr. K if you’re out there reading this I’m still mad about it

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Its not been planned. Arryn even admitted this. And she's quite literally THE main driving force behind BB happening because she was so hellbent on getting Blake in a wlw relationship.

Yang wasn't even her first intended target.

It was Pyrrha. She even mentioned how Jen was on board for it, and, there's literally a recording of her being shot down by Miles and Kerry about it. It's where she admitted to such ON Tumblr on her well since deleted account.

Yang, only became her next focus afterwards.

Not only was it not the original goal, she wasn't even her first pick

Arryn wanted to use Blake as a vehicle for her own devices, it's why she also wanted to promote Ilya so much, which, ironically screwed all of this even further, since ARRYN literally promoted Ilya as "The Gay friend pining over her STRAIGHT Friend."

Arryn Zech, the person who wanted Blake to be gay so badly before the show even aired, confirmed Blake as STRAIGHT in V5.

Meaning, that not only is Bumblebee something that spits in the face of what was previously established in the show, but also, tears down the entire point of the actual concieved from the get go, gay characters already in the show.

No. Bumblebee was not planned. It never was, it was just wished for in the backround by a wishywashy woman that didn't even remotely think about how her wants would screw over the writing integrity of her self-insert, because she had wish fulfillment she wanted really badly.

Bumblebee was never planned, it just kept getting in the way of things and derails the canon of things that were previously established, because people just wanted it so bad that they didn't care about the ramifications of it happening.

Imagine having the Titanic have an actual normal smooth sailing cruise, and then the ship literally makes a gigantic, sharp heavy 180° just so it can go back and forcibly hit the iceberg. It makes the tragedy of the sinking significantly less impactful.

That's Bumblebee.

it did ruin the shipping development blake had actually gotten

You know something Funny? There are Many evidênce that proof that Bumbleby wasn't something Planned since the beginning.

But Barbara Just saying this make Many shippers Crazy and Attack Everyone who disagree. BUT... Barbara NEVER presented evidence more than her words...

Which means... Empty words, without Foundation.

I remember that unlike with bb white rose doesnt have the benefit of multiple members of crwby shipping it

if anything they are more with white knight and ruby being ace.

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I'm really wondering if there's any real reason to believe that Weiss has a romantic interest in women. Or is it just the fans raving?

this tweet thread above is dumb

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Honestly as a white rose fan myself I am glad they didn’t write it. Their romance stories seem to be absolutely garbage. Could they still throw it in and say oh they took a long time to find their feelings for each other? Yes, and it could be semi realistic, but there is never any hints of it being anything more than really close friends in the show

Lol, that last comment… the context can also be Weiss has shit taste (Neptune) or is like the people (gold digger and leeches) she dislikes (Invincible Girl and the Rusted Knight, fame and fantasy).

So Weiss could be bi, but she isn't interested in boring or plain people. Ruby doesn't have the fame.

So even her f/f relationships can be shit. Especially with someone like Pyrrha.

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MercuryBlack98 • 1 day ago With some of the insane ravings in the community, i wouldn't discard these posts being the work of some incognito alt account of Canonseeker or any other like minded individual. Remember that there's many more freaks out there like him with a lot of fringe and extreme opinions. Though i never understood why RWBY attracted a lot of literal schizos when it came to these discussions

Also, Twitter being Twitter, nothing new

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Competitive_Act_1548 • 1 day ago I choose to interpret that Weiss just has shit taste cause it's funnier

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DiabolicToaster • 1 day ago • Edited 1 day ago Meanwhile, Pyrrha knows where to find the perfect partner/husband. She just can't take the step or will only act if she knows Jaune gives up on Weiss.

Everyone actually has questionable tastes or relationships. Basically, Jaune's parents and the Belladonnas are two only theoretically healthy couples.

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u/MarioWizard119 avatar MarioWizard119 • 23 hr. ago Don’t forget Jaune’s sister

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DiabolicToaster • 22 hr. ago The Tera-Arc family is not theoretically a good family. They are defacto a happy and normal family.

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Ashamed-Bluebird-940 • 1 day ago That last comment in the OP actually comes off as pretty bigoted. Implying her going out with guys leaves her disappointed because of the need to go out with woman, she's not half gay or half straight, in this context she'd be 100% bisexual. People don't need to justify their gender identity or sdxuality. If Weiss is bisexual. Its gross to imply her relationships with men are bad because she is secretly wanting woman because men can't satisfy her

the fact she has only shown attraction to men says to me that weiss is straight

( a character is straight till proven otherwise and when they have shown no attraction to the same sex I am saying they are straight

my comment I personally dont agree with the whole weiss having shit taste or being like the people she dislikes stuff

Lesbian definitely not. Bi? Maybe, unlikely, but maybe. But man I think RWBY and Overwatch have the most obnoxious "my head cannon about their sexuality is 100% true" fans out there.

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Visual_Awkward • 1 day ago CUSTOM Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter I doubt that she is bi, because If you see the Main show, Weiss NEVER showed interrest in another Woman, NEVER Blush or Anything and as i Said the show IS running for more than 11 Years

and given that I feel like bb was nothing more then a direction change and that blacksun ( which was a good romance ) then in the og plan there would have been no evidence to claim blake was bisexual period

I would say that she was straight

(to be frank in my fantasy of a rwby remake by a guy with guts blacksun happens

and they outright state ( after finishing the v9 except with instead of bb happening blake and yangs friendship fully healing and them stating they are like sisters

that even if blake and yang were both bi they wouldnt have romantic feelings for each other but blake is straight ( to emphasize how he doesnt care about the hate he receives

( I feel like blake was intended to be straight given what I said about blacksun

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why do you think theres evidence to renXnora I mean there is no evidence to them having anything more than a close friendship they dont seem to have any romantic interest in the other its like blakeXyang. and the song boop isnt evidence

How is Boop not evidence? It’s true that it’s extra material, something that isn’t in the show proper. But unless you have paperwork or a written statement or some video from some rooster teeth member (that actually gets to make decisions regarding rwby) saying that boop isn’t canon, then it is.

If you mean that the song itself does not explicitly state that it’s about Ren and Nora, then you’d be wrong.

Here are some lyrics of the song that I think are quite relevant.

1)“Hold Magnhild, I think I’m gonna faint”

I shouldn’t have to explain this first part. Magnhild is Nora’s weapon. Who the hell else would have the weapon in their possession.

2) “I just bite my tongue and when I want to say I love you I say, Boop.”

Well we know this is about Nora AND Ren now. Because the only person who has said “boop” is Nora. And who she said it to was Ren.

If you’re looking for evidence that is not Boop, then we’ve got this from Nora’s side. From a post of mine: 

“1)This point is pretty minor, but this is what first caused me to raise my eyebrows in suspicion. In “The First Step” I had been content to just see these two as friends, but then, Nora says the fated words: “Well, not ‘together-together’… Not that I’m not saying that you’re not handsome; you are handsome, but that’d just be weird, right?”In case you still don’t understand, I’ve bolded the prove-y parts. There was no reason for her to say any of this. She could have left it as “What are the odds we’d still be together?” Ren knows exactly what she meant by that, he wouldn’t have corrected her. Now that she’s realized the implications of what “together” meant, she feels the need to correct herself. After that she’s just fumbling for words, and reveals more about how she feels about Ren. She didn’t have to say anythinggg. But she did, and now we know that she thinks Ren is handsome (well, duh). If her feelings for him were completely platonic, she wouldn’t have said anything like that. There’d be no reason for her to. Like seriously if I was writing two characters that were only meant to be platonic, I would never write a scene like that. The implication of those words are too strong.”

I can understand feeling fuzzy about Ren’s side of this, as he is quite quiet and subtle. But to quote myself again from this post:

“On to Ren now. His feelings on the matter are a bit more complicated, since he’s typically very quiet and composed. We really shouldn’t take this to mean that he doesn’t feel anything though. I can be quite introverted myself (I’m somewhat good at hiding it), and anyone who is introverted can attest to the fact that silence doesn’t mean that we don’t care. The tricky part is that all of Ren’s thoughts and feelings are in his head. We can’t really tell what he’s thinking or feeling because he doesn’t say or act out much. A lot of the stuff he does is going to be subtle. Anything regarding his feelings towards Nora is going to be even more subtle because he has a reason to hide it.”

“Now my friends, I didn’t bring you here to this lovely post to just be all “I guess Ren loves Nora bc I dunno”. I’ve got my reasons.”

“We were given evidence in a conversation that was prompted by dear ol’ Jaune in “Burning the Candle”. Jaune asks “Well, how did you and Nora… y'know…” He clearly thinks that Ren and Nora are a thing (when the oblivious guy can figure this out u have a problem). Ren picks up on this quickly. And you know what he does? He in fact does not, calmly correct Jaune like a person that has no attraction to their friend would do. He stammers. Lie Ren. The basic epitome of cool and collected, stammers like an idiot. Umm whaAT?? He never directly responds to Jaune’s question. Nora does it (with another use of “not together-together”) And after that, he changes the subject! (”Jaune, what is this all about?”). Why would he do that if he only had platonic feelings for Nora? There’s literally no reason for it unless….. maybe….? He has…Romantic feelings for Nora….????”

If you don’t like renora as a ship, that’s fine. You don’t have to like it. 

But there is evidence. I just wasted 15 minutes typing it out for you. As far as having actual evidence, it is nothing like Blake/Yang. That is a horrible comparison.

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its so annoying how bb shippers will try to use burning the candle scene to carry their relationship

It's incredible that people use this simple scene of Blake and Yang to Carry their "relationship" when it's simply Yang being Yang and helping her partner that she didn't EVEN interract in V1.

"“Sun’s semblance is meant for helping others while Adam’s is meant for hurting others. Or how they have the Sun and Moon symbolism with their semblances’ names ( Via Sun and Moonslice). Or how their hair and parts of their bodies glow when they use their semblance. Or the White and Blue VS the Black and Red clash of colors—“"

Also his name is Sun

Sun was Blake's literal ray of light that guided her out of the dark

I have seen people go well as adams opposite it makes sense for him to stand aside for bb while Adam didn’t (when Adam is yangs foil it would make more sense if yang stepped aside for blacksun (

(my addition: if you want to keep yang having feelings for blake though I feel it would be better if yang and blake never hadromantic feelings for each other though yang still carried negative feelings about blakes abandonment and some jealousy over how much sun helped her etc

Those who cannot conceive Friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a Friend.

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Let's not forget Sun is the first, and most consistent person Blake actually bothered opening up to.

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Because it’s about framing and context.

Sun’s wink is accompanied by a slow-mo pan of his expression, followed by the camera focusing on Blake’s slack-jawed attention, along with a literal choir singing in the background while she stares at him. This is his introduction— to Blake, but more importantly, to the audience. This is the first moment we properly meet him, and it’s through this very particular gaze.

Yang’s wink is precipitated by her trying to convince Blake to come to the dance for her own mental and physical well-being. There’s no attention given to any other motivation on Yang’s part during the exchange, or what Blake’s reaction was following.

One of these has clear romantic intent. The other does not. If I were to present these two scenes to a random bystander and remove the names from the samples, and if I asked them to tell me which scene they thought was meant to be a romantic one, my guess is that they would go with the Sun and Blake scene. Because again, it’s about the framing of the scene, and the context of the situation the characters are in.

I see nothing romantic in Blake and Yang’s relationship, the wink doesn’t change that " (nothing until v7 ( nothingin v6 finale was inherently romantic but you can say the writers intended it to come off as )"