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Claudo-loquor: An alter whose role is to hide or conceal information to keep them safe when other alters are not willing or unable too due to conditioning(this also includes ITBC). This can be considered the opposite to the term Claudo-Revelare

Flag meaning: The yellow line represents the information wanting to be revealed, the blue lines represent water separated that information, the grey lines represent walls blocking information spreading. The black lock represents secrets.

Term translation: Latin

claudo: to shut up, close, lock

loquor: to say, speak

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Thank you, Mod Fishtank, for the face alter flag. It's super helpful for our system :3

Aww Thank you! If you ever need more flags, I’m right here! This actually means so much thank you! Here are some awesome indigenous music for you to listen to!



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Ah. I forgot to add this. For the blue and silver userbox I requested i'd like it to just be long. Thank you ^^ /gen

Posted!

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ID: A 'This system's alters all have different stances on endos. Do not assume anything." userbox that's dark blue with silver text. The image is a stylized question mark. End ID

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Heyoo sorry about thenhate you've been getting recently, it looks like just one thing after another and you mods have my respect for dealing w these kindsa things!

On that topic thougu, may we request another endo stance userbox? One of our parts is endo neutral and we would really appreciate if you could make a set of boxes for that stance but a little different if you dont mind! Could it be green (roughly 6CF662 for the base and 15990B for the outline), small sized, with a sunflower (or related) for the picture? Also if you find a gradient that works well with this userbox id love to see more of those from you but thats completely up to you mods, along with all spec8fics if you think something else mighr work better, you are the artists after all and i always love how your boxes turn out :3 hope y'all have a good day!!

Please specify the size ^^ You can find them in our pinned!

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Attention!

Due to the extreme influx of hate anons we've been receiving, the mods discussed it and decided that I (mod Hollow) will deal with the majority of them. Reasons for this are personal. If hate, dis/syscourse, or just general assholery triggers you, please block our new tag: #hollow laughs. This will be the tag I use when responding to hate. Thank you!

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[ note — this is directed to Mod Hollow, because I do not wish to trigger people, and I apologise if I do. I am a bad person but not a horrible one, at least I like to think so. I only want to argue / discourse with people who enjoy it. So, half trigger warning for that here, I guess]

Hello, again. I have thought over it and decided that I should apologise I suppose, for hating on the pro endo userbox. I guueessss maybe it could be useful as a warning, though the fact they seem to be allowing pro endos to interact gives the idea of, yk, promoting it. But I guess if ableists have a big, "hey I'm ableist" userbox that makes them easier to avoid

So, that's the best apology you get. However I wanted to ask a question actually. Not really here to argue because you've said it's triggering to the other mods, and as mentioned above that is,, not what I hope for, it's not nice when people are triggered. But, do trigger warning tags / blocked tags not working if the post is on ones own blog?

I would check myself but I don't know how to use Tumblr really. Outside of asks and posts, I'm not too sure how to block tags

— Hater Anon ( or AM — question here, are you generally up for discourse? Or just, arguments, you mention it giving you highs, and I know it gives me highs too. So perhaps you would be willing to continue through one of your other blogs, so the mods and people following here do not have to deal with it)

I'll answer your question first. No, trigger tags do not work on your own blogs, and no we are not open to discourse. Other than me (host M) several of our parts (including host L) are severely triggered by discourse and the only reason we were semi okay with it here is because I am the only system member who uses this blog. I don't want to risk my systems health over a high I can get somewhere else.

A half assed apology is not an apology. I explained my thoughts. I theorized as to other nuanced reasons that Fox could have posted it. I gave you reasons as to why being anti/pro endo may differ between alters and why those boxes might help. If you don't like the answer, that's on you.

A pro endo system might have anti endo parts, and would use the relevant boxes to state that. An anti endo system might have pro endo parts and would use the relevant boxes to state that. I don't know how I can make it any clearer. Userboxes are not just an "advertisement," they are a disclaimer.

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I agree with the other Anons. And the thing that makes me feel like it wasn’t just for a pro-endo alter in an anti-endo system is both the wording and how that mod made “this system/collective is pro-endo” boxes as well. I understand that you don’t control what other mods do, but that doesn’t mean you have to defend them.

I agree, maybe some of the anon’s were being maybe a bit too harsh, but I understand where they were coming from. Pro-endos support ableism. And there are definitely some user boxes for them that say “this ___ is pro-endo”.

I want to point out, I’m not angry, and I don’t mean to come off as hateful. I’m just confused. Why make user boxes for someone that supports/promotes ableism?

Also, don’t y’all have the boundary for the blog of no pro-endos/endos allowed to interact with the blog, so wouldn’t someone requesting a userbox like that breaking the DNI? (I could be wrong, I apologize if I am)

Again, I don’t mean to come off as mean, rude, or hateful. Sorry if it come off like that

-Quicklight from @the-star-cluster-system (we’re on anon because we aren’t out as a system our main/of account)

So here's a question. Did you read the whole post?

I said that it could have been use for a pro in an anti system AND vice versa. For that to happen, a pro userbox has to exist. It wasn't a request it was self indulgent and/or made JUST IN CASE someone wanted it. I don't know the details because I can't read minds.

Yeah, some people think pros are ableist, but unfortunately we live in a world where people love to be dicks. And idk about you but if someone had a big flashy sign saying "IM A DICK!!!" it would be kinda nice because I could avoid them entirely instead of accidentally treading on turf that makes me wanna die. If I see someone using a pro endo box/tags, it makes it that much easier to block them.

Jfc.

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This [noun] is stuck in a cycle of "almost okay"

Like or reblog if using please. Free to use without credit but credit is appreciated. Want a userbox, term or flag? Request one!

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Looks like someone isn't having as much of a high from these asks as you claim, hm?

But yeah, I'm leaving now I guess. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole warning thing, so I guess I'll go think on that

- hater anon (pretty obviously)

No i'm actually still pretty high off of it. I just don't want the other mods to get triggered because I care about their feelings :)

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Glad to know the high is mutual, because this is ALSO giving me supply. I'm not as angry as I feel like I should be

While I do understand opinions do differ within systems, there's a big difference between "this alter likes dogs" and "this alter hates dogs" compared to "this alter is against ableism" and "this alter supports and likely even encourages ableism"

Like by making userboxes for that it's just kind of promoting it. Same way you probably wouldn't want to make a pro contact paraphile or pro transID/Radqueer userbox because they're harmful

It seems like you don't understand or simply are not acknowledging the true harm being pro endo can and often does cause to both the system itself and others in the community

— hater anon (don't count this as a sign off, I probably won't be back.. actually I probably will idk)

trust me, anon, i do know. our pro endo parts are SEVERELY shunned and majorly disliked by the rest of the system. userboxes can have multiple functions, though--if I put "this part is pro endo" on a part's profile, that serves as a warning. that's what pro and anti userboxes do. they warn people of their stance.

seriously, fuck off. yeah, you're not nearly as angry as you should be, and I'm about to block your anon

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Maybe you wouldn't get "dumb hate mail" if you didn't decide to just you know, become ableist one day? Like, that was some fuckass decision making there. I don't know what goes through someone's mind to think that "oh yes, promoting ableism and people straight up spreading harmful misinformation about disorders that most people are commonly already misinformed about is sooo cool" like what the fuck.

anon. holding your hands very gently as I say this.

one mod's decision doesn't represent the blog as a whole. anti endo systems can exist with pro endo parts. pro endo systems can exist with anti endo parts. they're not mutually exclusive. the point of those boxes were probably for that exact reason. my system would use the anti boxes and we still have several parts who would use the pro boxes. it's not up to you.

also, we're not gonna take shit from someone hiding behind anon. that's honestly laughable. (by the way you're not doing anything by responding except for feeding my ego and giving me a supply boost. so go ahead. keep doing it. I'm getting high from this.)

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"wall of fame" as if promoting ableism is something you should be proud of. That's pathetic. Y'all know by making shit for it you're endorsing it. But sure, act dumb about it. Just don't call yourselves anti endos if you're just gonna be as ableist as "endo neutrals" or pro endos

wall of fame as in wall of fame for stupid hate mail, hope that helped

we make userboxes regardless of the boundaries based on individual needs, and besides, it was made in contrast to a matching anti endo set. yeah, maybe you don't agree with it but it was robin's choice and even if other mods don't agree with it it says in the pinned that we will make ANY userboxes

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Right so we're making userboxes for ableists now. Wonderful decision guys. So educated and awesome, I'm sure promoting ableism isn't at all a bad idea !

wall of fame? anyone?

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This [noun] is pro endo

My DNI for pro endos does not apply to this post, feel free to reblog if using. Free to use without credit but credit is appreciated. Want a userbox, term or flag? Request one!

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This [noun] is anti endo.

Like or reblog if using please. Free to use without credit but credit is appreciated. Want a userbox, term or flag? Request one!

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OCTOCON BEWARE

TLDR; A pedophile that has admitted to abusing a minor is in the Octocon servers, and the creator of the bot and the moderator team for the servers have stated they will not do anything about it. The Octocon servers allow minors and have minors active in the server.

If you are in a server that uses and has ever recommended a member go to either of the Octocon servers, I ask that you please notify the mod team so that they are aware there is a predator in the servers they are recommending their members to.

A second post with evidence of the discussion with the moderators as well as the pedophile admitting to abusing a minor is linked at the bottom of this post.

More details about the situation below. Content warning for a slightly more in depth discussion of pedophilia.

The creator of Octocon and the moderators of the Octocon discord servers were made aware of a pedophile that sexually abused and traumatized a 14 year old when he was 18 years old. The evidence submitted into a private ticket with the moderators was the pedophile admitting to doing so in a private message with a user that I will keep anonymous.

After over a week of inaction from the Octocon mods, where the pedophile was allowed to talk in the servers with minors and staff members, the moderator team came to the decision that they will allow the predator to continue to use the servers as "The situation is too old and complex for simple moderators on a discord server to judge." I found the inaction of the moderators and final decision disturbing. The fact that this was all handled quietly and server members were not made aware of this decision at all was extremely discomforting to me. I personally have decided to move away from the bot/app and ended my support for it due to the complete lack of care the owner and staff has expressed in regards to member safety by letting a self-admitted pedophile chat with minors in their servers. I reached out to the user who had initially brought up the concerns to the moderator team for permission to make a post about it so people are aware of the situation. Link to evidence post: https://www.tumblr.com/octoconbeware/775057200100065280