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You think Kai is the type of guy who would smoke?

Yes. Not often, but I can definitely see it. I can see him with a cigar, or one of those ornamental pipes, expelling the smoke from his nostrils. I think he smoked only occasionally when he was mortal (tabacco during his time being something extremely rare) but afterwards, as a Spirit Warrior, when he came back to the mortal world, he didn't mind partaking in a little hedonism- makes it easier when it's now much more available, and no longer poses a risk to his health.

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How would Yuelong get along with Kai’s parents?

He would have gotten along with them really well- Bingwen especially. Khaltmaa and Bingwen would have spoiled that boy. He looks like his daddy and granddaddy but smaller and cuter (and more well behaved than Kai ever was as a calf).

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On that idea of Oogway meeting Kai's parents: Bingwen and Khaltmaa hold no punches when it comes to embarrassing their son in front of him. They definitely bring out the baby pictures, tell stories of Kai's most embarrassing moments, and gush over how much he talked about Oogway in his letters home.

Kai thinks it can't possibly get any worse, but then it does- because Oogway starts sharing a few embarrassing Kai stories of his own. This eventually leads to Kai getting so fed up that he has to escape the house to go "clear his head" at the pond, which is really just Kai sitting on the little dock looking into the water like:

Big bad warlord can't handle his parents and supposed "brother in arms" betraying him like this. He'll never recover from the emotional damage of their bullying. 😔💔

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"In ancient China, long and silky hair was a representation of beauty and high status, both men and women wore extravagant hairstyles to show off their long hair"

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From the concept art of KFP 3, it seemed like the film was gonna be darker but it seemed like Dreamworks wussed out (I heard somewhere that Tigress was gonna lose an eye during her fight with Kai and there was also a deleted scene where Kai beats the living mess outta Po to the point that he kill’s him and sends him to the spirit realm).

Yes! I have the art book and I've seen the deleted scene (thank you people of youtube!). And in the original final battle Kai was supposed to get a piece of his horn broken off! There's even a rumor from a while back that Kai was supposed to have "darker" dialogue that they axed.

All in all: Dreamworks could have had an awesome movie and an even more awesome villain on their hands. Alas we got fluffy cutesy pandas and jokes galore. 😔

But genocidal peacock is a ok I guess. The point being: I will take my pen and "fix" the Kai. >:)

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THOUGHTS ARE BREWING ABOUT REWRITING KFP4

Brace for impact cause I’ve been ruminating for weeks on how to redo it because like, there’s so many directions you could take it. BUT IM THINKING OF AN INTERESTING WAY TO REWRITE THE CHAMELEON AND AUGHHH I MUST BLAB

Cause obviously it’s a bullshit thing that her excuse for being evil is that she wasn’t allowed to know kung fu because she’s too small. We all know its dumb with Shifu, Mantis, and literally Master Chicken existing. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ISNT STUPID? The womanly coded rage of “I don’t need to be good, I need to be GREAT” and like sure its not like a characteristic of female rage but when that thought process is within a woman it takes on a whole different kinda tone compared to a man. Miss Chameleon who, while living in a universe where there isn’t really overt sexism, still feels overlooked by all the men around her.

In my rewrite of her story, not only would she have known kung fu, but she would have been a master herself. But her problem (like the running themes of all the kfp villains which ties her to the bunch we’ve seen already) is that she wants for more than is her lot in life. Her flaw is that she can’t live in mediocrity. She can’t accept that the skills she has developed are the best she’s ever going to get. Especially when it’s not garnering the same attention from others the way Master Ox or Master Bear have. It develops this intense superiority complex and innate jealousy within her that she feels she pales in comparison to her colleagues. Which leads to her trying to copy their styles. It doesn’t work, people shame her for trying to be a copycat.

So, she tries a different approach, and see if there’s any new skills she can develop. And wouldn’t you know, she’s heard of all the tales of Master Oogway and his spiritual powers and you know, he invented Kung Fu and is known and loved far and wide, so he had to have done something right! So, she tries to learn chi. She fails. Or, in her mind, she fails. It’s not as strong as she wants it to be, again, working but living in mediocrity. She wants to stand out, she wants to shine.

So, Master Chameleon disappears mysteriously from the kung fu world. Nobody knows where she went or what happened to her, but her village checked her training grounds and all of her pupils (the iguanas/lizards we see fighting for her) are just. Gone. Deserted.

That’s when she pops up in Juniper City. A place that doesn’t know anything about kung fu or its masters, a city she can make entirely for herself. She presents herself to the government/council, introducing herself as the solution to all the crime running rampant through the place, and proves herself by actually showing off her intelligence and skills at apprehending and beating the criminals. It’s not long before she’s hailed as a savior to the city and has the council paying tribute to her and building her her own fortress so that she can train others (in reality, she makes her training intentionally too cruel on the people in the city who volunteered to learn to discourage them so she could sweetly suggest she ask her pupils back at her side) to defend the city more strongly.

She’s basically the kingpin of the city now. She’s manipulated the council into doing whatever she wants. And all along she’s making deals with the criminal overlords for more money and glory and such. The only ones who don’t bow to her is The Den, due to their structure being more familial rather than hierarchal. They fought a lot because of this power struggle, and similar to that drabble you wrote, The Chameleon would be brutal, taking the lives of their friends and such, to the point where the neutral point is Han taking what’s left of his community under ground to keep them protected, and Chameleon considers them too puny to waste her time when she’s got bigger goals.

Namely, Zhen. Zhen was a consequence of all the fighting done, the last victim from The Den so to speak. Only, the little fox wasn’t killed. Similarly to the movie, Chameleon notices her drive and skill and decides she’s worth the time to apprentice, and she needs something to busy herself with, because in the meantime, she’s basically inventing sorcery.

Using chi the way it has been used didn’t work for her. But she heard through the grapevine about Po’s battle with General Kai, how he perverted chi for his own gain, which gave her an idea. She wasn’t going to do it the way Kai had, she didn’t just want the power of their energy, she wanted to take everything from everyone who thought they were above her. Their soul, their skills, their everything. This thought process leads to her true plans and motivations: to be the only kung fu master.

She’s still having some troubles working out the kinks of her sorcery while she trains Zhen, grows close to the little fox. Only, Zhen isn’t like her other students. She’s trained them to be competent, sharp and know their jobs, but Zhen was pushed farther, and took things farther. And once again, that burning jealousy took root in Chameleon as she saw her pupil flourish more than she originally thought capable. There was pride of course at first, molding Zhen to her ideals and image. But the fox turned from student to competition as she began to experiment with her own style. In turn, Chameleon experimented on her. Zhen wasn’t expecting it, but when called to her, Chameleon threw her beta tested move at her…and it worked. That trick we saw in the movie, only it took everything from Zhen, and by the end of it…there was nothing left of her. All of her spirit, skills and even appearance was given solely to the Chameleon. She can only shapeshift into the people she’s absorbed in my rewrite. She hadn’t fully expected it to work, and a small, miniscule part of her felt guilty for doing that to her dearest little pupil who trusted her so blindly. But it opened a gateway for her.

And yeah! I won’t go into everything because I’ve talked so very much but omg I needed to get this out. And it’s necessary, because there are two running themes with kfp villains: they are greedy for more in some twisted goal, and they end up hurting somebody very close to them, there’s always betrayal somewhere. Tying that into her story makes her feel like she’s an actual villain of this universe in my head.

(Sorry this took so long to answer I had to get my thoughts together because OH BOY-)

Holy smokes this is all genuinely so, so good and a hundred times better than what we ended up getting. Because first of all: you turned the Chameleon into a character, instead of just a villain. Not to mention you gave her a motive that gives her complexity and makes her actually interesting (and the audience can't justify, but understand why she's doing what she's doing!). AND YOU MADE HER SCARY! An actual, serious threat! That imagery the description of poor Zhen's fate this conjures is spine-chilling. I wouldn’t mind seeing this version of the Chameleon on screen!

Also the way it actually follows the lore and continuity of the previous movies in a way that makes sense! The running theme of "being the best you you can be"- in this sense, her version is a twisted version of Po's journey; wanting to be the best version of herself...at the cost of all others! I could go on, but yeah this is an awesome rewrite idea!!!

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"""MAKER WIDOW"""

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Hi hii thats me again reflexing on your Kai headcanons yayy

How do you think could Kai have identity crisis at some point due to him being a 'halfbreed'? Yeah I understand that kfp is a world of anthropomorphic animals and nations don't really work in our sense but still xd I mean, (back to one of your writings) in childhood he used to be not treated well because of his mongolian roots. Later I think he could have struggled a little if the side he choose to fight (on?by?with? -m not native srry) is the right one. His ancestors from both sides have been historical enemies for generations, Kai probably had a lot to think about

I have a lot of headcanons and thoughts about this specific topic, so I'll try to summarize it as best as I can: to answer it straight: yes and no- it depended on context.

Warning: racism, some foul language

In my headcanons Kai joined up with the Immortal Army (what the Qin state army called themselves), at one point trying to put an emperor Candidate named Lord Bohai into power.

They fought against not only enemy mongolian tribes, but also the huns and the other Chinese states with their armies and emperor candidates, as well as various warlords attempting to seize power at this tumultuous period in history.

Khaltmaa's herd wasn't apart of the coalition of clans that attacked China- they were just traders, a family of nomads moving place to place- they actually left Mongolia to escape the fighting that was going on at the time, and came to the Qin state because it's immense military strength made it relatively stable; however, because they were Mongolian, they were treated only a little better than the enemy clans- “painted with the same brush”, you know how ignorant people are.

Kai received a lot of discrimination and abuse in the army because of this, and they actually blamed his bloodlust and sadism on his mongolian blood, which filled Kai with shame, knowing his mother and her family were peaceful, kind, civilized people from a rich culture; but Kai rose up the ranks quickly to escape the abuse, and flaunted his heritage as an act of defiance. He and Oogway bonded over their foreign backgrounds, because Oogway also suffered similarly, especially from General Jiahao, who never missed an opportunity to make remarks:

To Kai: “Your father must have either been desperate or a sick kind of pervert, to mix good Chinese blood with that of a savage whore; and look what such an ill-fated mating created.” 

And for Oogway:

"What islander dribble are you speaking, now? You came all the way over the seas from your speck of dirt in the ocean, and you can't learn how to speak our language properly? Are all the tortoises where you come from slow in mind as well?"

It didn't help matters when they actually went to fight those mongolian clans. There was talk of Kai joining in with his "breathren", or feeling guilt for cutting down his "cousins" in battle; Kai had no relations in these clans, but it wouldn’t help to explain it. Of course, once Kai and Oogway became warlords, they never heard such talk again.

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Oogway: "Kai is round. Is fuzzy. Is sweet. Conclusion?- He is peach."

Kai: "I'm not sweet!" >:(

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Is really funny to me how everyone just agreed that Kai had loving parents and a good childhood

I can imagine that Oogway went with Kai to visit them, after asking him for an hour of course

And Oogway thought that they would be like Kai (cause Kai never really talked about them, not because he was "ashamed of them" or anything, he didn't for their safety, and because there was never a situation where he could mention them lol)

But when they arrived Oogway was surprised when he saw that Kai's parents were actually nicer (and shorter) than their son

And they treated Oogway as a 'special guest', doing parent stuff, like making dinner, asking him if Kai was behaving well, and showing Oogway ink portraits of calf Kai doing silly things like eating grass and stuff

Kai: This is my 'Brother-in-arms', Oogway Kai's parents: We thought that you would never bring one at home, congrats!

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They always go for the small ones 💀

source - by GlassCannon9

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I'm (not) sorry Kai's little hoofies are so cute!!!

Him little feeties! 🥺

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Yet Another (Rough) WIP

Kai chucked Oogway under the chin with a knuckle as he passed, then took a bite from the orange, peel and all. The juice dribbled down his chin, soaking his beard. He wiped his face with his arm. The view from the hilltop was striking, but offered only a small vantage point of their forces- just a valley full of tents between the trees, soldiers passing in and out of the shade like insects from this height. 

“We can let our main reserves continue to rest here, while we send out a smaller force to rout out what remains of the suppliers, and another from behind to cut them off,” Kai said, bouncing the orange in his palm. Then he took another bite out of it. A content munching sound followed. “Let’s see how well Caishen’s soldiers can handle starvation.” 

He laughed, then finished off his orange. Oogway smiled and tossed him another one from the cart they had pilfered from said rival’s orchards. 

“There will be a feast tonight for us, anyway,” Oogway said, peeling one for himself, “I think it will be good for morale. If Caishen is wise, he’ll see he can’t support a militia on a few grains of rice and surrender.” 

“I hope not,” Kai said, taking the discarded peel and eating it. “I’ve been itching for a fight. Things have been a little too peaceful lately.”

He munched thoughtfully, then snorted. “...Well, it doesn’t matter. We’ll get his lands either way- and orchards, I hope! These are damn good oranges. Think I’ll spare whoever tends those trees.” 

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Kai, the minute someone acts caring towards him:

...I might have to write a short drabble about this now.

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Need to draw him and the others more-

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I'm trying to take care of asks and replies and whatever but in the meanwhile I had to share this random thought:

Kai's reaction to a s/o (or platonic partner) that just wants to take care of him. I don't think Kai really would know how to properly appreciate and accept such a thing- not in a "he was never loved oh boo hoo his trauma" sort of way (that guy had a great childhood), but rather his pride, and just the way Kai is by nature (his being a brutal one). He wouldn’t be able to comprehend someone that's not his parents just...wanting to basically "baby" him and treat him that well.

Not that he would reject it. Kai would accept all of it, even if he grumbles about it at first- because it's the most sure-fire way to win his heart. However, it must be directed solely at him. Only he should recieve such treatment from them, all of their gestures of kindess and affection- he's an extremely jealous sort. They so much as make his lunch he's already making a mental note to claim them as his. His. Only. His.

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Khaltmaa, holding up a swaddled calf Kai: "The beast has been captured!"

Bingwen, relieved: "May the lands at last know tranquility."