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Been so long since I’ve rendered something but I genuinely love king Baldwin so much I’m loving this silly trend

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You said "which is a tragedy in its own right as far as my tastes are concerned, but I digress", but I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this. I hope it's okay to ask, but what kind of fics/pairings would you like/prefer to see emerge from the fandom?

Of course it's okay to ask, dear anon!

Personally? I'd love to see more variety. One of the chief reasons why I enjoy reading fan fiction is finding new things I like - perhaps some pairing I hadn't considered before, some batshit premise or crossover that turns out to be actually brilliant, or maybe a cool genfic that explores previously unseen sides of a character or character dynamic that people don't write about very often. I'm not really the kind of person who seeks out fic based on specific tropes. Once I've read a story with a certain trope in a fandom, it's pretty unlikely that I'll go and read another one with a very similar premise, unless I really enjoy the author's writing.

So what I'd be excited about seeing in the AO3 tag would honestly just be: something new. For instance, a sapphic Sibylla/OC fic would be such a fascinating read (as would be anything at all that explores Sibylla's character a bit more). Or a Saladin-centric fic - sign me the hell up. I'd adore finding something for Godfrey or Imad, and we all know a new Tiberias fic would have me foaming at the mouth. I'd also love an interesting and/or wacky AU (and I'd write one myself if I had the time). Make it Jane Austen and let Baldwin have a gentleman suitor, while Sibylla elopes Lydia-Bennett style with Guy, and Godfrey and Raymond grump about in the Navy. Write a daemon AU (as in His Dark Materials) in the canonical universe. Or throw them all into the 21st century and let Reynald send Saladin threatening messages via fax.

I know the KoH fandom is much too small to engender the sort of variety I'd ideally like to see, and it's only reasonable for writers to sort of double down upon the fic premises and tropes that have done well in terms of hits and comments in the past and write more of the stuff the majority enjoys. As far as taste goes, I'm aware I'm the complete outlier here, and I really don't mean to antagonise anybody with this post or insult their writing or reading preferences. I'm glad your fics are doing well, folks, I truly am - it's only that I'm very likely not the target audience for them. Sometimes I just wish I weren't the only freak in the circus, lol.

(The post anon is referring to is this one btw.)

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I love teaching middle school. one student just insulted another by telling him he looked like King Baldwin IV of Jerusalem without his mask on.

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Hiiiiii! I get really shy with commenting on people's works idk why but I just wanted to say that I really really love your tiberias series! He's one of my top faves and you're the only person I have seen who writes for him! You're very talented! I can't wait for Isolt and tiberias to have some romantic scenes lol! Hope you're having a good day/night! 💓

Aww, thank you so much, kind anon - this really made my day this morning! 🤍

Yes, as far as I know, I'm the only one writing for Tiberias in the KoH fandom. Which is a bit lonely at times, but perhaps someone else will join me in my delusion someday, haha. I'm all the more happy you like my fic! There'll be plenty of romance going forward, I promise. Well, some more agonised suffering first, but then they'll move on to the wooing.

Also: no need to be shy about interacting with me / my stuff here or on AO3, I'm not in the habit of biting people :)) Have a lovely day as well!

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haha funny meme (brainrot)

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same energy

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Kingdom of Heaven

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Just a casual reminder that no matter how unhinged you think the smut you wrote is, it will never be as unhinged as 2005 livejournal KoH fics

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This is so random but I’m so excited to have found your blog! I can’t get over the movie and especially as a history student people who genuinely like something like it enough to make a blog are rare?! Also you’re german like me I think? Loving it

I'm glad you found your way here, then!

I started this blog a little over three years ago because, like you, I couldn't get over KoH and I was so sad there wasn't even a trace of its fandom left anymore. So I thought, why not try to revive it? And now here we are, almost 500 posts and 600 followers later, and this thing has long taken on a life of its own.

And yes, I'm also German : ) Es gibt ein paar von uns hier im Fandom, aber wir sind generell ziemlich international aufgestellt, haha. Freut mich!

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"[...] narrative interest in Kingdom of Heaven focuses not on the outcome of the conflict between the Crusader Kingdom and Saladin but on the way it was fought, on means rather than ends, performance rather than goals. In the end, how the hero performs is more important than the fact that he lost the battle and surrendered the city. [...]

"Scott perhaps best encapsulates the anxieties that surround hard-bodied masculinity and the mourning for its loss in his uncanny image of Baldwin, the leper king of Jerusalem, whose death precipitates the destruction of the Crusader Kingdom. Rather than focusing the audience's attention on the ravages of the disease of leprosy (at least until after his death), Scott depicts him in a funereal image of a male body swathed in white robes and veils, his face hidden by a beautiful but lifeless silver mask. Baldwin is beautiful but inanimate on the outside - a hard-bodied shell - living but hideous on the inside. His voice detached from his body, Baldwin becomes a ghostly acousmatic, despite his physical presence onscreen. His voice seems to issue from an inanimate shell, cut off from its origin in a human body. He is his own - and his kingdom's - funeral effigy. In this figure the hard-bodied masculinity of the crusaders in Kingdom of Heaven is exposed as a performance, a disguise that hides the rottenness within the kingdom beneath its beautiful but dead veneer. The image allows not only the crusaders but Scott's audience to mourn lost glories."

- Laurie A. Finke and Martin B. Shichtman, Cinematic Illuminations: The Middle Ages on Film, Johns Hopkins University Press, 2010, pp. 231f.

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im sorry i had to

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Tiberias: Whatever you ask, I will serve

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appears to be his now.

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if you like a piece of media that is good eventually youll more or less run out of things to say about how good it is but if you like a piece of media that is objectively pretty mediocre but also somehow deeply compelling thats how the demons get you

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It's so atypical too. Like, from what I've seen across fandoms, canon character x OC pairing fics were much more popular in the early 2000s and are generally kind of derided now. Yet in the KoH fandom, we see a completely opposite development that went from shipping various male canon characters to basically just Baldwin x OC fics. Which is a tragedy in its own right as far as my tastes are concerned, but I digress.

All in all, I can't really explain it either. The only thing one might observe is that the Baldwin x OC shipping seems to have started when the fandom moved from livejournal to ff.net, and then later the same trend continued on AO3. ff.net seems to be a bit anti-slash and also famously anti-smut, which is what most of the livejournal stories contained, while most of the KoH fics on both ff.net and AO3 tend to lean towards 'clean romance' with very little (if any) sexual content. So perhaps the websites' differing content policies may partly account for the fandom's shift in focus around that time - along with an audience on ff.net that, in the mid 2000s, probably skewed a fair bit younger than the folks on livejournal.

I was looking at some fanfics and like, has anyone else ever wondered what caused the gradual change from Baldwin x Balian slash with Balian being the most popular character to Baldwin x female OC with Baldwin being literally the only character the fandom crushes on over the course of the past 19 years lol (Also for those who don't know there used to be a livejournal blog solely dedicated to Balian slash)

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Nahhh Hannibal Barca going undercover to give Phoenicians back their tyre 😭😭😭😭😭 it’s so over for Baldwin iv 😭😭😭😭😭 we are NOT doing the 4th punic war 😭😭😭😭