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Ok now I am able to elaborate why I do not like Andor. Between work and just needing time to process, I couldn’t immediately find the words.

So if you don’t like looking at Andor negativity I suggest blocking the anti andor and andor criticism tags. That’s what I do when I don’t want to see negativity on something I enjoy (instead of bullying people in the comments).

So to start with, the dialogue in Andor takes up way too much time essentially repeating itself and inflates the scene by a lot. In fact the very first episode literally has maybe 4 scenes in the span of 50 minutes.

Now my attention span is pretty good. I like a good slow paced show but things still need to be happening. Andor fixates on one thing for the longest time and it’s part of what adds to the boring critique of the show.

The scene with the Krennic’s meeting for example, I pretty much figured out what it was going for pretty quick since, the Empire being evil, it’s not hard to see the kinda shit they’d pull just from a little context. But instead this whole thing stretches almost all the way to the end of the episode.

When the essentials needed were already in place. Introduce Ghor, Empire wants to mine it for a mineral needed for the Death Star, use propaganda to dehumanize the Ghormans so no one stands in the way.

Now I’m not saying quickly go through that and be done, I’m just saying it did not need to use up so much screen time through the use of repeptitive and tiresome dialogue.

Also, I find that Andor spends a lot of time on obstacles that really nothing to the plot such as the rebels that killed Cassian’s partner.

As to the almost rape scene, that just really should have come with a warning. If Order 66 scenes in Kenobi get a warning, then a rape scene definitely should. I get what people say in that it’s not something the Empire would be above. But here’s the thing, that is pretty obvious given if genocide and slavery are ok, then an imperial officer is likely to use his power in such a twisted way.

But Andor did what Andor does and spent a long time with a drawn out fight where we see Bix forced into positions that the officer was definitely going to take advantage of. I would have been fine with the implication of what was going to happen. He gets too close, she says no, a fight breaks out but it could have ended much sooner.

Andor just seems to thrive on gratuitous suffering and personally that just aint what I watch Star Wars for. It’s the character choices AFTER the suffering that make Star Wars what it is. A New Hope, the movie from 1977, made the Empire’s evil pretty fucking clear for me, as did all the movies since and other media.

Star Wars has always been about the choices you make in harsh circumstances. When Owen and Beru were killed, the focus was on Luke’s horror snd his choice to join the Rebellion snd become a Jedi.

When Alderaan was destroyed, the focus was on Leia’s commitment to end the Empire once snd for all.

In Empire, Han being tortured and Leia’s pain, the focus was on Luke because he had to choose what he would do from the visions.

The prequels were all about Anakin reacting to the pain and loss around him and what he chose to do about it.

The suffering itself was never the point of Star Wars. But Andor just really seems to focus on that more than anything. Poor Bix seems to exist to get tortured and sexually assaulted and send messages in a panic. Cassian seems to exist to grt stuck in situations where the people around him hinder his goals. He does eventually get shit done but only after a painful long time of the people around him deliberating and starting pointless fights. And don’t yall even about the Rebellion infighting, that can be done without spanning 3 to 4 whole fucking 50 min length eps.

I guess the reason why I enjoy Mon Mothma’s scenes is probably that there is the most movement and character work there. We see her struggle to send funds to the Rebellion, we see her reaction to how her family feels about her as she is focusing on creating a better galaxy for them.

The focus is on her CHOICES and how feels about them. She doesn’t always feel good about it. She puts her daughter in an arranged marriage in order to secure money for the Rebellion. This kills her inside because she knows it is wrong yet it’s for the greater good. She knows her friend has to die because he is a loose end so she lets Luthen do the dirty work and she hates herself for it and hence the dance scene where we see who she is becoming and how she hates it.

Believe or not, I’ve been accused of being elitist for enjoying her scenes the most 🙄 same with enjoying Dedra, I’ve been called fascist for that one (misspelled as fashist I believe 🤣)

Dedra is an enjoyable character because she wants to move the plot forward in the slowness and corruption of the Imperial bureaucracy. She is the typical loyal Imperial officer with no mind to financial obstacles. Syril is her pathetic counterpart. The whole dinner scene with his mother was genuinely very entertaining because this is the most direct the dialogue has ever been.

The show tends to do the little trick with dialogue where it talks about things without being direct and leave the audience to figure it out. Now this is effective at times but honestly when overused it just becomes repetitive because I have long figured out the direction of where the scene is headed and I’m just having to hear about it over and over again for the sake of it sounding intelligent and indirect.

Where this type of dialogue thrives is with the Mon Mothma scenes where she is in public and literally cannot speak about the Rebellion too openly.

But when it’s between just two characters like Cassian and Bix, it’s just tiring and long.

So yeah, I find the boring and very gratuitous. And before anyone comes for me saying “you knew what you were getting into”, dude, it’s fiction, I’m allowed to try something out and want to review it for myself. If you love the show then good for you, but I’m sick of being told that anyone who doesn’t like the show is stupid. I literally have a degree in writing, I’m going off of what I know down to the theory.

But you don’t even have to have that. If I think the show is bad, guess what? I’m not fucking brain dead. I have reasons for that. I’m sick of the superiority complex that the Andor fandom seems to be stuck in.

All of Star Wars is about making choices right and wrong. Fascism is one of the circumstances that the characters are put in. So is the corrupt Republic in the prequels. So is the terrorist like First Order in the sequels.

Pain and suffering are part of it. But it never needed to be gratuitous for me to see the sacrifices the characters have had to make. Maybe for some like the Andor fandom it does add by being as realistic as possible, but for others like myself and plenty more, we get it. Real life puts us through enough, I would rather not see the nitty gritty crap be made gratuitous. For me it comes off as trauma porn especially having been through sexual assault and watching that one scene. Implication would have been fine.

Plus Andor is genuinely not what a lot of people enjoy Star Wars for. Fantasy and mysticism is a huge part of the franchise and Andor doesn’t have that. Yet when people bring that up as a reason they don’t care about the show, the fandom hits us with “well they never marketed themselves that way”. But why should that matter? We’re not blaming the show being different, it’s just simply not what we enjoy Star Wars for. And that should be ok. People enjoy different things.

I mean I accept that some people enjoy the realism in Star Wars. I can’t really argue with a difference of pure preference. But it needs to go both ways. I’m sick of this hive mind mentality where because so many people love this show no one is allowed to criticize it at all and you’re dumb if you dont like it. Since when does popularity mean something is good??

Like i said, if you dont like seeing criticism thats ok, just block. Thats the grown up thing to do instead of hurling insults and refusing to acknowledge that different opinions exist even ones you dont like.

Anyway, I’m tired and need to go to my real life job but just needed to further explain myself since apparently I’m “braindead” for making a post that simply stated I didnt like what I saw without elaborating because god forbid the show is on a work night for me and I can’t really get into fiction analysis mode when I deal with people all day. I guess I’m not allowed to simply post my opinion and feelings without making a whole ass essay these days.

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Basically every conversation between Luthen and Mon:

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average chandrilan man

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Ooooo this is fun! I love this idea and thank you @spacelesbiandisasterii for tagging me in this!

No pressure tags: @skygirlstars @murdersoup @mini-and-mighty @archduke42 @alexeithegoat @kaaragen @blitzzkat and anyone else that wants to join ☺️

Reblog game!!

You take the last 5 songs you've listened to and make a poll where people vote which song is most your vibe

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Bonus:

Andor S02E03 "Harvest"

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Hey!!! I hope you are well! 👍thinking of ya. 🫶

Hello there! Thank you for checking in, it takes me way too long to get to my inbox sometimes 😅 just the usual adulting getting in the way of what I really want to do which is all things fandom 😊 hope you’re doing well also my friend!

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Me, reading my fic drafts: Damn this is pretty good, when's the author gonna finish it?

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HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN celebrates the 20th anniversary of Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith

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I finally finished the 3rd chapter! Sorry for the long wait. I really enjoyed putting this one together even though my brain has been so fried. Just buckle up for this one y’all, it gets spicy.

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I’m just going to say it.

Andor is the Snyderverse of Star Wars… in that it is slow, boring, insists upon overly “realistic” and gritty storytelling that does not align with the origin stories it is based on but the fanbase treat it as though it were some holy gospel and any attack on it is sacreligious and try to insult ANY valid criticism as being unintelligent

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And here we thought we were crazy 😅

Will rewatch it as part of a marathon soon, here's hoping my opinions changes.

But as of now...yea, shit's not that good

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Seriously though 😒

Will rewatch it as part of a marathon soon, here's hoping my opinions changes.

But as of now...yea, shit's not that good

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Hello do you enjoy Barrissoka? Specially Barrissoka INTIMACY?! Then you must read my wife’s work she’s so talented 🥰

I finally finished the 3rd chapter! Sorry for the long wait. I really enjoyed putting this one together even though my brain has been so fried. Just buckle up for this one y’all, it gets spicy.

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Okay I’ve got beef with the Lucasfilm Animation 20 year poster, how is Krell on there but not Luminara 🥲

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TWO GIRLS CHILLING IN A HOT TUB FIVE FEET APART CUZ THEY’RE NOT GAY

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Yall remember my poster merge special with Barrissoka kissing in their posters for the Tales shows?

I present to you the updated version now with Ventress as seen in the Tales of the Underworld poster throwing shade at the useless lesbians

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I come forward with this Barrissoka one shot I’ve had in my brain in a long time since I’ve last watched Tales of the Empire. This is The Way Out and I sincerely hope y’all enjoy 🥰 I’m also almost done with the next installment of Luminara and Barriss so stay tuned for that soon!

https://archiveofourown.org/works/64292032