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Fic promo time :3
Tw: Violence, dehumanisation, mentioned/implied broken bone, implied decapitation, child death, death, mention of war, mentions of kinda cannibalism
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Guitarspear (i guess. there are negative implications in this drawing but its still Guitarspear. Evil Guitarspear. lmfao)
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"You can’t separate us, not unless we’re willing to do so."
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Pookie 😖

In honor of the new saga coming up, MORE SIRENS! and yes I was blasting Suffering the entire time while drawing :)



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The things hunger could make you do...
Do you have a favorite saint? :)
Hard to choose one. I like Saint Brendan the Navigator. He gave communion to a mermaid.
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"You can't ship Odysseus with anybody but Penelope!"
Meanwhile, Odysseus lowkey shipping himself with the Siren:

So I stumble upon a post on TikTok that someone talks about that everyone who ships Odysseus with anyone but Penelope is weird or creepy.
And I do want to talk about one thing regarding shipping and how y’all on TikTok act! First, there are the people who hate when anyone ships Odysseus with anyone but Penelope and make sure you know how strongly they feel about it. Then, one time I wrote, 'This is for all you Odypen shippers out there! :D,' in one of my posts and then I suddenly got a bunch of comments saying it’s weird to ship Odysseus with Penelope because they’re already canon, so what’s the point of shipping and making fan content about them?!
YOU CAN’T WIN. You just can’t win in there! LIKE, AT ALL!! XD
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You are so real for this, tho I prefer this one, she is so cute I wanna cry 😖😖😭😭
i would jump in the water for sireneople IN THEIR SIREN SELF
#epic the musical#epic the thunder saga#epic sirens#greek mythology#jorge rivera herrans#epic thunder saga#odysseus#sirenelope#epic musical#epic odysseus
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Just here to remember Odysseus does the same thing, he didn't spare the baby to save his family but he begged Poseidon when he first tried to avenge his son (whatever the reason), he didn't spare the Sirens but begged Zeus, and then he said "I'm gonna use ruthlessness" but expected mercy again from the guy whose mindset he adopted.
He keeps a foot in both camps just as everybody else, we only see him questioning himself more about it.
The way that Poseidon didn’t show any mercy to Odysseus when he begged, but then when he was the one at Ody’s mercy, he begged for mercy
And the way that the sirens wouldn’t have shown Odysseus and his crew any mercy, but they when they became the prey, they begged for mercy
So, it just seems like it’s okay to be ruthless until it’s you on the other end of the weapon, then you want mercy and even call the other the monster when you would’ve done the same to them
#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#epic the thunder saga#epic odysseus#epic poseidon#epic sirens#epic monster#epic just a man#what's the point of this songs and of the whole musical if everything is reduced to Odysseus is the good guy and can do whatever he wants#I've seen people compare multiple times Batman and Odysseus when Batman would have probably beaten the shit out of him#yes the point is exactly that when you are in charge you could dictate what's moral or not and Odysseus did it the same way others did
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This will definitely be my favorite animatic for this song
I've got the sketch down for my Suffering Animatic! So, yeah. Here, have the full WIP now on YouTube!
*Yeets the WIP like it is Astyanax*
I dearly hope y'all will like it as far as it is now o7
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#epic the musical#epic the thunder saga#epic odysseus#epic sirens#siren penelope#sirenelope#epic suffering#jorge rivera herrans
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Athena.
Goddess of W-A-R.
Apollo and Athena during god games
#epic the musical#epic athena#epic apollo#epic musical#epic fanart#epic the wisdom saga#epic the musical fanart
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And if I wish for a siren?
Then what happens?
why are there so many posts about asexuals being immune to sirens. people. sirens don’t lure you in with sex (necessarily). they sing about whatever it is that you want most. they could sing about mothman or cinnamon toast crunch and guess what then your asexual pirate is fucking dead
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Odysseus’s Mistake w/ Open Arms
After listening to a podcast featuring Jorge Rivera-Herrans. I am so fascinated by his explanation for why Odysseus revealed his name in his version of the story.
Obviously one of the elements at play is the fact he just witnessed the death of a friend so there’s a lot of rage and pain involved for why he wants to taunt the cyclops as they leave. And we all know that hubris was the other factor especially when he dips down into lines like “I am neither man nor mythical”. And Jay further went into this point by saying
“Odysseus in this moment is riding this high of thinking ‘I am so smart, that I don’t have to depend on brutality to solve my problems. I am so clever that I alone can carry along this philosophy of Open Arms because I can always find a different solution’”
That is such a fascinating display of his hubris while simultaneously trying to hold onto the memory of a dead friend. It shows just how flawed this interpretation of it at that moment, and how that carried forward for him. Because Odysseus was just introduced to this philosophy, one that he could have used to go forward. But the literal representation of it is killed in front of him so all he has to go off of are these vague concepts on top of his own problems muddying the waters
The biggest example of this to me, is how he approaches speaking with Eurylochus. Open arms or mercy, is not something that can only exist in terms of not slaying your enemy. It requires a lot of emotional intelligence that Ody does not really have. When eurylochus questions him on his plan with Aeolus, his fears and concerns are not being addressed. Sure yes, bad idea to do this in front of the crew and sow seeds of doubt in them. But if ody is going to dedicate himself to this ideology he has to go the full way and learn to communicate with people.
When Polites reached out to ody, he recognized that he felt troubled. That he was carrying s lot of guilt and was trying to ease his mind. Odysseus felt heard and understood, and he was willing to listen to his friend. By comparison he does none of this with eurylochus. He shuts him down and tells him to he devout. All he had gotten is for him to shut up and keep things to himself which only makes things worse.
It represents such a tragic element in this story because Odysseus is trying to fulfill this wish from his friend while having a broken version of it he never got to fully learn or understand. That Polites could have potentially helped him make the journey into leading a kinder life. But the consequences of his actions came knocking on his door and it became this nonstop effort of drilling ruthlessness into his head as the only option of survival.
The podcast in question if any of you would like to check it out
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Did anyone order a tragic Athena backstory that ties in thematically with the rest of the show?
(in mythology, he swallows Metis before Athena was even born, but in my au she was about 7 when it happened)
Bonus Metis:
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