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Oh I agree that the whoever the mage was would cause some sort of plot issue, i just think that having it be Viktor opened a can of worms that could not have been addressed properly in the time that the show had. I'd rather that missing piece be one that could be found later rather than something that won't be found at all. One of the things that was great about their relationship in s1 is that they would not be who they are without each other, but that was a matter of them choosing to build their dream together. Viktor's choices really sour my opinion on their relationship. I don't think their relationship had to be perfect in terms of how they treated each other. I just feel like the writers (and the fandom) didn't have a lot of care or respect for Jayce. Making him orbit around Viktor didn't really feel intentional or considerate, it felt like centering them for the sake of fan service more than anything else. If the other aspects of the show were better balanced I would probably feel differently. S2 had no room to breathe and properly develop the actions the characters took. Viktor's whole arc didn't feel like a natural evolution because it was way too fast and it used the arcane affecting him as a crutch to explain his actions away.

Also thx for sharing your take with me.

So I know I'm late to the discussion or arcane s2 but after a very long hiatus from league of legends proper i started playing again recently and it got me thinking about arcane again. I don't know how true this is, but allegedly the mage that gave Jayce the hextech runes was supposed to be Ryze, another character from legue, and then changed to be Viktor. Among all the writing decisions that I find ruined the quality of season 2, I find this one to be the most baffling in my opinion. Because, instead of having Ryze and the rest of runeterra be intentionally mysterious and something that is fleshed out and added to over time, it makes a plot hole.

There is no way that within two seasons we were going to get anything near a satisfying answer about the runes because answering that question would only lead to more unanswered questions especially if it were to be Ryze who has nothing to do with piltover or zaun. However if they are planning on creating a larger universe between multiple shows, which they are, it would be answered eventually in a much more interesting way than the ending we got Having Viktor go back in time to give Jayce the rune did such a disservice to both of their characters and to the rest of the plot. Aside from the implications that a time loop has on the rest of the characters, it makes Jayce's entire character revolve around Viktor. Hextech was something that Jayce had spent his life on, so from the time he was a child his whole life was leading up to meeting Viktor and working together, multiple times over. It makes them a matter of fate being tampered with, rather than two people who share a vision realizing it together. For me, this makes Viktor a lot more sinister. For the sake of saving the world he ruined, the only thing he could come up with to change, was to continuously strip Jayce of any autonomy. It makes Jayce his puppet. Unless there was something making it so that was the only point in time he could go back to, a character as smart as Viktor could have found another point at which to change things. The alternate universe/future that Jayce was trapped in, seems to be to be a much more direct result of Viktor's cult. Yes, Jayce had a hand in abusing the arcane and bringing Viktor back, however the turning point, was with Viktor's revival not with the rune that Jayce got.

Someone please point out of my logic is wrong, but it would have been impossible for the first rune that Jayce was given to have been from Viktor. If his whole purpose in going back in time was to change the rune, that means in the first timeline where hextech is invented Jayce was given it by someone else or found the rune on his own.

Characters who are close should be interdependent, there is nothing wrong with having some of Jayce and Viktor's motivations come from each other. However this makes it so Jayce's entire reason for being who he is revolves around Viktor. The parts of his life that gave him something outside of that were thrown to the wayside, his position on the council, his relationship with Mel, his blacksmithing, even his family. The broader ramifications of Viktor being this all powerful mage ends up making not only Jayce but the entire plot of Arcane revolve around him. Especially because they threw away the class conflict that was building and because we see what the world looks like without hextech in it. One of arcane's strength was that it was an ensemble cast of characters that were connected but not necessarily all entangled with one another. They ruined a series that was about systems of power and what they do to people within them, to place the actions of one person at the center. I sincerely cannot understand how no one in the writers room pointed that out

It did nothing for Viktor's character either, rather than letting him descend into madness, and use hextech to facilitate his trans humanism and on that path bring others who were in his same position with him. More similarly to his league version pre-s2, they do some fuckery with the arcane because?..... Anyway, these are my thoughts on that aspect of s2, if you want to here me pontificate on this more, please comment.

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So I know I'm late to the discussion or arcane s2 but after a very long hiatus from league of legends proper i started playing again recently and it got me thinking about arcane again. I don't know how true this is, but allegedly the mage that gave Jayce the hextech runes was supposed to be Ryze, another character from legue, and then changed to be Viktor. Among all the writing decisions that I find ruined the quality of season 2, I find this one to be the most baffling in my opinion. Because, instead of having Ryze and the rest of runeterra be intentionally mysterious and something that is fleshed out and added to over time, it makes a plot hole.

There is no way that within two seasons we were going to get anything near a satisfying answer about the runes because answering that question would only lead to more unanswered questions especially if it were to be Ryze who has nothing to do with piltover or zaun. However if they are planning on creating a larger universe between multiple shows, which they are, it would be answered eventually in a much more interesting way than the ending we got Having Viktor go back in time to give Jayce the rune did such a disservice to both of their characters and to the rest of the plot. Aside from the implications that a time loop has on the rest of the characters, it makes Jayce's entire character revolve around Viktor. Hextech was something that Jayce had spent his life on, so from the time he was a child his whole life was leading up to meeting Viktor and working together, multiple times over. It makes them a matter of fate being tampered with, rather than two people who share a vision realizing it together. For me, this makes Viktor a lot more sinister. For the sake of saving the world he ruined, the only thing he could come up with to change, was to continuously strip Jayce of any autonomy. It makes Jayce his puppet. Unless there was something making it so that was the only point in time he could go back to, a character as smart as Viktor could have found another point at which to change things. The alternate universe/future that Jayce was trapped in, seems to be to be a much more direct result of Viktor's cult. Yes, Jayce had a hand in abusing the arcane and bringing Viktor back, however the turning point, was with Viktor's revival not with the rune that Jayce got.

Someone please point out of my logic is wrong, but it would have been impossible for the first rune that Jayce was given to have been from Viktor. If his whole purpose in going back in time was to change the rune, that means in the first timeline where hextech is invented Jayce was given it by someone else or found the rune on his own.

Characters who are close should be interdependent, there is nothing wrong with having some of Jayce and Viktor's motivations come from each other. However this makes it so Jayce's entire reason for being who he is revolves around Viktor. The parts of his life that gave him something outside of that were thrown to the wayside, his position on the council, his relationship with Mel, his blacksmithing, even his family. The broader ramifications of Viktor being this all powerful mage ends up making not only Jayce but the entire plot of Arcane revolve around him. Especially because they threw away the class conflict that was building and because we see what the world looks like without hextech in it. One of arcane's strength was that it was an ensemble cast of characters that were connected but not necessarily all entangled with one another. They ruined a series that was about systems of power and what they do to people within them, to place the actions of one person at the center. I sincerely cannot understand how no one in the writers room pointed that out

It did nothing for Viktor's character either, rather than letting him descend into madness, and use hextech to facilitate his trans humanism and on that path bring others who were in his same position with him. More similarly to his league version pre-s2, they do some fuckery with the arcane because?..... Anyway, these are my thoughts on that aspect of s2, if you want to here me pontificate on this more, please comment.

Edit: Multiple people have told me their reasoning why the mage was supposed to be Viktor from the start. Thx for sharing, but my point still stands.

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Ao3 situation

I have never posted on this blog before but I have something to say. I heard that ao3 got scraped for ai training and the only fic that I have up there got stolen for it and I don't really have anyone I can talk about this with so I'll get my feelings out about it here. I'm not surprised by this in the slightest. I was already hesitant about posting my writing because of my own insecurities and this did not help in the slightest. The one fic I had up there, I wasn't the proudest of but the fact that it was stolen anyway is disgusting. I'm not angry because I'm not surprised. I'm more offended on the behalf of other people who have been using that platform for years and who have massive bodies of work that were so flagrantly disrespected. That being said, I only want to create more in the face of these soulless machines and their developers, I'm still getting used to posting on here but this blog will be used to house my further writing projects.

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symphony

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“what’s your writing process” i put a pathetic guy in a blender and blend blend blend