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Definitely nuanced, and it depends on the culture.

For example, traditionally Spanish names or English names would be considered fair game to anyone, as these cultures quite literally forced others to take on their names, and thus they are not gatekept on any level.

If I saw a non-Asian system using a traditional Filipino/Tagalog name (i.e. a deity, spirit, or culturally significant name such as a national hero) that wasn't gifted, I'd be pretty fucking pissed.

But, on the other hand, we are a SEAsian system, we are Filipino, and we have spoken to other SEAsian systems regarding using Japanese names, and, from what we've heard, it's generally acceptable for cultures that were colonised/impacted by Japan (such as the Philippines, feel free to research some basic Filipino/Japanese history if you're curious) to use Japanese names, as there is real cultural overlap.

This is as far as any authority I have on the topic goes, but I'd love to hear others' input.

1= I'm from another culture and/or a POC

2= I am not from another culture and/or a POC

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hey can we talk. can we stop it with the white savior pinkwashing queer paternalism that white libs always seems to hold when talking about queer people/gender-nonconforming people from countries where gay rights isn’t a legislated reality (i.e. often developing countries/countries where the majority ethnicity is non-white).

you haven’t been on weibo, you haven’t ever been to China. you haven’t walked the streets of chengdu which is the unofficial queer capital in the country, you don’t know what slangs and jokes we use to talk about queerness.

you read whatever your war crime aiding and abetting news sources spoonfeed you because you never went out of your way to befriend Chinese people in real life, you accept whatever reality is easiest for you to stomach—that Chinese people, well, “the government and the mainstream social media” at least, are ontologically evil and are intolerant to a fault; that Chinese people are so different than you (who are so liberal and tolerant and queer and punk) that these “special few Chinese people who are queer” need YOUR approval and YOUR protection and YOUR help.

I’ve spent a good portion of my life living in China, I have family there. I have queer friends there. My parents had colleagues and friends who are officially or unofficially out at work. I met my first butch-femme lesbian couple in China. I met my first trans man uncle in China. A large part of my middle school friend group turned out to be queer and have found people who they care about and who care and protect them in turn.

I only pity your willfully ignorant way of living. you see Chinese people as a sexless monolith, you see Chinese people in any position of power as a threat to your “democracy” aka violent imperialism disguised under a neoliberal facade. give me a break.

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hello can i message your blog to interview you in regards to your personal experiences with a certain tulpamancer on tumblr? i’m making a comprehensive post later this month on her and the damage she has caused others and would like to gain as much testimonial support from various individuals to better showcase her bullshittery 💛💛 you would remain anonymous on the final post for your own safety

I think I know who you're referring to, and honestly I don't have a lot of personal experiences with her, so I'm not sure I'd be very helpful. Additionally I've basically quit tumblr, so I'm sorry to say I can't help with this. I hope your post goes well though!

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It is really difficult for me to see the pro-endo arguments when time and time again, it's just misinformation after misinformation after harm after harm after ableism after ableism..

I believe that people deserve to live how they want. I want this post to be good-faith. I do not want arguments. Harassment. Threats. I know I will get these things, but I do not care.

I believe endos. I believe y'all. I believe that what you are experiencing is real and deserves to be believed, validated and respected. I genuinely do. I do not necessarily believe that it is "endogenic", though. That's my problem.

Every time I've tried to see y'alls side, I come out of it more and more concerned, constantly. I can see the research like 10, 20 years from now and it's going to be about how much horrific ableist misinformation there is in these Godforsaken spaces.

Y'all will say "these things can cause an endo system!" and then list off shit that causes DID or OSDD, claiming that they aren't traumatizing or traumatizing ""enough"" to cause DID/OSDD, when they are, and literally DO, and have been documented to countless times over. Shit like medical trauma and neglect, which are horrifically fucking abusive and traumatizing.

Y'all will say the most nastiest fucking shit about people with DID or OSDD. That we aren't human. That we're LESS than human. That we aren't as individual as y'all.

Y'all will cherry pick information and twist anything and everything. Y'all will call us lucky for being traumatized and abuse. Y'all will tell us we're "traumascum", it's fucking horrid.

I genuinely want to see this pro endo side. The arguments. But all I see is a generation of people who are being prevented from getting the proper help they need, all because they believe they are not disordered.

I've seen too many stories and met too many people who have gone into these endogenic circles and came out horrifically traumatizing, horrifically abused, battling horrific denial of their DID or OSDD, all because they spent years in these circles of pseudoscience and misinformation and 0 critical thinking.

I see these popular sources of endogenic misinformation, and not just endogenic stuff, but misinformation and horrific ableism towards DID/OSDD as well - I see things like "sophieinwonderland" and "The Plural Association" spreading awful misinformation, ableism and racism on a large scale.

It scares me.

It seriously concerns me how huge these things have become and how many people this is going to affect.

May or may not delete this post, depending on how much hate I get in my inbox.

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Honestly I agree with your tulpa post! I was raised Buddhist and would still kinda consider myself one and I always felt it was a little disrespectful. Good day! /gen

Sorry for not answering sooner! You have a good day too. I appreciate this a lot :)

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Us: Hey, we want to change the current usage of Tulpa, as a term, due to its racist origins.

Them: These people are trying to stop Tulpamancy entirely!

Us: Nope! Actually a lot of the people saying this either have created alters, support created alters, or are married to people with created alters.

Them: This is just sysmeds trying to break apart the community:

Us: Er, nope. Actually the majority of voices right now are pro-endo or unaligned. Mostly pro-endo.

Them: Well, it’s sysmed rhetoric.

Us: … How? If being a sysmed means believing systemhood is inherently medical, then wouldn’t we be arguing not to have thoughtforms at all? That’s not what anyone is saying here.

Them: Well, the document going around spreads anti-endo rhetoric!

Us: N. No. It spreads POC voices. That was the point. Why does it matter is… like, one or two voices were anti-endo? Also the majority on that list also were not anti-endo. What are you even saying here, being anti-endo as a label somehow makes your POC voice no longer matter? That’s even more racist!

Them: Sysmeds are just trying to make it so we can’t use resources with the word tulpa.

Us: Again, majority aren’t sysmeds, and even then… Ah yes. The sysmeds who use resources that refer to DID as MPD or Hysteria or even Split Brain Syndrome clearly mean you can never ever use a resource ever again with an outdated term. Bitch, you literally will be able to still use those resources, and everyone has been saying that, you’re just too racist to listen!

Them: We can’t say anything without being called racist anymore 😞

Us: That’s because everything you’re saying is racist!

Them: Well, what about all these various fandoms that refer to Tulpamancy?! Why haven’t you said anything about them? You obviously only care about breaking up the endogenic community.

Us: Wait, what? I’m not part of any of those fandoms. I’ve never even heard of that being a thing. But… yeah? That’s horrible?? Wait, if it’s so bad and racist that even you’re mentioning it, why haven’t you spoken out about it yet?

Them: Nobody white should be talking about how it’s appropriation. We should be listening to actual Tibetan Buddhists. And by that we mean people who live in Tibet who are ethnically Tibet and raised Tibetan Buddhist.

Us: … The people, in Tibet, who have limited to no access to the internet due to the political climate, who face actual persecution for speaking up? Those Tibetan Buddhists?

Them: In conclusion, Tulpamancy isn’t racist, and what we’re asking for isn’t racist. You should read more sweaty and maybe you would understand. 😌

……..

I’m so fucking tired.

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Pop quiz!

I know this is, like, TOTALLY random! I was just SO curious!!!!

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How do I reblog this to every one of my million sideblogs?

I'm sorry but too long has the DID community been predominately white, this is a hostile take over of the DID community by AAPI /hj

(While this is a half joke, it's only half in the "hostile take over" and not in the "its been predominantly led by white people" - if you are any percentage AAPI and have a CDD reblog / comment and I will inherently remember you because us AAPI need to unionize XD)

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i need white people to understand that racism is traumatizing. colonialism is traumatizing. cultural appropriation of sacred practices and beliefs is traumatizing. explaining over and over and over again why something is cultural appropriation is traumatizing. and yes, white people refusing to listen and continue to disrespect your culture is traumatizing!! it’s not just about listening, it’s about actually changing your behavior to make the lives of POC easier because otherwise you are Traumatizing Us. do you know what it’s like to be told over and over again that your culture and your voice doesn’t matter? or that you’ll only be listened to if you fit a very specific niche, only to watch the people saying that refuse to listen to people who DO fit that niche and argue with them? just because they don’t want to change a fucking word?

white entitlement is insane and it’s not an individual attitude that someone has, its an entire cultural upbringing you have to ACTIVELY UNLEARN by LISTENING. white privilege teaches you that you can take and take and conquer. you’re allowed to have anything that you want so long as you go for it. the rest of us are silenced and forced to live in your shadow while you do this.

if you reduce any of this to “just anti endo propaganda” then you’re too white to get your head out of your ass and you’re not safe for POC to be around. that or you’re too attached to internet discourse to actually care about the real lives and trauma of POC. this shit might go away for you when you log off but for the rest of us we have to deal with shit like this every day. just fucking listen for fucks sake. white pro tulpas can fuck off and stop acting like allies.

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Racists be like: I'll only listen to people from Tibet about Buddhism 😤

Also racists: can't point to Tibet on a map, circles COMPLETELY the wrong area

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The tulpa discourse is truly just flashbacks to my childhood of being rejected and being forced to hide my beliefs and culture, only for the same Westerners to turn around and steal it - bastardise it - for their own "aesthetics" etc.

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omfgggg. if the practice has literally 0 attachment to buddhism then why are y'all still insisting on using the appropriated term that came from the buddhist practice being bastardized? grow up, use a new goddamn word, it ain't hard, all the cool not racist kids are doing it

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I keep trying to see the pro tulpa (term) side in good faith, but honestly, it really feels like racism all the way down.

Like imagine if the counterargument for 8 different accounts of people for people saying "hey, this is kinda racist," had been "hey here's a couple of SEasian and buddhist voices that disagree."

But instead, we get shit like, "the anti endos are just trying to tear our community apart!" and, "Well, the majority of people aren't going to change their language, so why bother." And it's just so disappointing. People aren't even pretending to care at all what POC think.

Idk what I even expected, but I honestly expected better.

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This sort of rhetoric is seen everywhere in American racism and I promise it isn't a coincidence. It's really deeply embedded into white American culture to do shit like this. Always has been. Something very similar happened in the Philippines in which America decided that it knew better than the people living there and need to "intervene."

I wonder why this is familiar.

You know what, I was ranting about shit to a certain Chinese friend of ours and I'm directly gonna say it, its absolutely fucked up now that I'm actually thinking about it that @/sophieinwonderland accused me of being pro-CCP and pushing CCP propaganda

Like a while ago when I found out about it, it was so wild it was funny, haha chinese people this that assuming we are all CCP haha classic racist fucking bullshit

But its only when I started explaining the history of attrocities and shit situations my family's home country INDONESIA was put through did I realize just how especially fucked it was.

Cause back in the whole cold war shit Indonesia has a supposedly pretty good guy as the founding President and what with the whole anti-communist vs communist push, and HONESTLY at this point I don't even know if they were thinking of discussing allying with the CCP because of all the fucking American propaganda

But seeing as Indonesia was communist in ideology, America literally fucking assisted in staging a coup that pushed both anti-communist rhetoric AND SPECIFICALLY anti-chinese rhetoric that resulted in the fucking bloody massacre of Chinese citizens in Indonesia. Literally people who were BORN and RAISED in Indonesia that had Chinese blood and were just as indoneisan as everyone else born and raised there were literally hunted and killed for being fucking Chinese because America both supported and helped push the rhetoric that Chinese = Communist = Bad = Murder them

And so Im fucking sitting here, with my parents having LITERALLY BEEN CHASED OUT OF INDONESIA FOR BEING CHINESE AND ACCUSED OF BEING EVIL COMMUNISTS BECAUSE THEY WERE LITERALLY BEING CHASED IN THE STREETS, having this white fucking bitch from America saying that I am ACTUALLY a secret CCP fucking agent trying to push fucking CCP propaganda

I'm sorry, I'm not.

My dad also was not

Unfortunately fucking Americans pushed that anyone who is Chinese is automatically CCP and that literally resulted in the death of A LOT of people like my dad who BTW has a lot of trauma for completely unknown reasons

Anyways I'm fucking pissed off. And ya know what, if I didnt have the fucking bitch blocked and probably wasn't also blocked by her, I would just @ her directly cause fuck you and the literal rhetoric that lead to fucking massacres of a "third world country" that literally jsut wanted to be left alone

And FYI; the coup resulted in the placement of a heavily corrupt western-ideology leader which directly increased the sheer amount of corruption in Indonesia but ok.

Like theres a whole fucking book on it that I haven't read cause it pisses me off but my sister read it and was like "lol yeah the US admitted to it" and its literally called the Jakarta Method

I probably missed some details and got it wrong cause shocker, I'm talking from my culture's lived experience and passed down fucking cultural trauma but whatever.

It's really fucked up.

Don't quote me on this cause I probably again, got details wrong, but that fucking rhetoric undeniably - by americas own admission - resulted in the death of many Indonesians on the premise of Those Evil Chinese Communists. I'm hesitant to post this cause again, I am speaking from released American documents and my family's personal reports and peer's reports so there might be errors, but ya know what, white americans?

Fuck off. Even if I got the details wrong in some places, it doesn't fucking matter because dear white americans, you still killed millions of people in indonesia in your crusade against communism so please miss me with accusing me - a first generation child from an Immigrant from Indonesia - an Evil Communist.

The sentiment in Indonesia still persists, enough so that when I met someone who was from China (who had a relative who was born and raised in indonesia) heard I was Indonesian-Chinese widened his eyes and went "ohhhhh" and commented that his relative doesn't go home to Indonesia anymore because its fucking dangerous.

Its fucking stupid.

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Hey.

Someone being anti-endo does not discredit what they say in regards to any fucking topic. Someone not being "pro-endo" enough doesn't discredit what they have to say.

Same goes for pro-endos. Being pro-endo does not discredit what they have to say, and someone not being "anti-endo" enough doesn't discredit what they have to say.

I do not give a single solitary fuck what someone's discourse stance is if what they're saying is verifiably accurate. If a POC anti-endo says tulpamancy is racist, that is as valid as a POC pro-endo saying it, because it is verifiably true. If an endogenic system provides research on DID, then by golly, I am happy for it, so long as what they are saying is verifiably true! If an anti-endo traumagenic system provides research into endogenic plurality, then by golly, I am happy for it, so long as what they are saying is verifiably true!

I don't know, I just give way more of a shit about what the person is saying rather than what alignment label they use in a shitty niche discourse.

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Your community has some massive issues if you, as a pro/tulpa, believe that you can't be both pro-tulpa and anti-racist at the same time.

When the entire subculture was built upon racism and appropriation, you're going to have a lot of shit you need to work through as a community to counter that. In that sense, maybe you do view this conversation as an attack on the community, as it is very much targeting the racist roots of the community; However, to twist that into "anyone who is speaking out about this is anti-tulpa/anti-endo" is really just redirecting the conversation in an attempt to avoid addressing the racism the community was born out of.

It makes the other side seem much less reasonable - "Well, only anti-tulpas/anti-endos would ever say these things because it's targeting the entire community, so of course these things are only being said by anti-tulpas/anti-endos to attack our community and drive us apart."

When you make it seem like the other side is only speaking about the racism issues in the community because they are against and/or just straight up hate that community, it's very easy to just broadly disregard everything any of us have to say and avoid coming to terms with any community issues brought up.

Which, for the record, most of the people (including myself) who I have seen speaking on this are pro-endo.

And when this is a conversation about racism, it only adds to the racism issues you refuse to address when you ignore it and twist the conversation this way.

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So my understanding of the situation: there seems to be two issues at play here. There are those who have been hurt by the trauma-focused discussions surrounding CDDs and systemhood who see people arguing that CDDs are trauma disorders and associate its use by people who use it as a way to dismiss or downplay other people’s traumas or diagnosis. On the other hand, there are those who have been hurt by people arguing that CDDs and systemhood are not solely caused by trauma, oftentimes by people who are trying to demedicalize any type of plurality including CDDs. And thus the discourse surrounding the term “trauma disorder” has become about two sides of hurt people, often within the same space, lashing out at each other due to more perceived hurt being thrown their way.

Maybe if we stop focusing so much on the trauma aspect of these disorders, and instead turn our focus back towards the dissociative aspects, we could potentially solve both of these issues. This isn’t me saying to ignore the trauma aspects of CDDs, but me saying we should re-examine what kind of rhetoric we use when talking about CDDs and shift the focus from trauma to the dissociation. The trauma is still an important factor. But so are the dissociative symptoms.