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Also watching the cartoon short of Fiona and Edwin about coffee. Fiona has the red ribbon around her wrist like suns. Without the bells.

All this time Sun was Fiona, or at least the ai/spirit haunting the machine. Since Edwin mentions the first robot worked, and his wife spirit was able to control the bot. Though hope there is more dlc to either sotm or sb to explain how Fiona and Edwin ended up in the newer sb sun and moon bots.

Since the game basically confirms Fiona and Edwin are linked to sun and moon lore.

SOTM game lore be like:

Sun x moon is real

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Agree.

I think there was subtle hints in ruin, with longer eyelash on sun drawing, also there was plush toy of sun with longer eyelashes. which made no sense. till the sotm reveal lore. now revealed fiona clue.

also the picture has both edwin and fiona smiling together, so in the past they where in sync together. And later fixed when they became eclips in ruin, both them united again.

I wonder if the mimic that went to sleep in the true ending, is the one locked in the basement in sb we find in ruin.

Sun and moon lore in SOTM spoilers

After seeing the new story. spoilers below

and learning of Fiona and Edwin and the mimic.

and how Fiona is represented as the sun, light.

and how Edwin is represented as destruction, darkness.

= sun/moon dynamic reference back in sb, with sun/Fiona coming out in light mode, and Edwin coming out in darkness mode.

Edwin is revealed to have been violent to the mimic, where it learned that behavior. in sb people theory if Gregory was a mimic. if go based of Freddy upgrade eyes, seeing the inside of Gregory skeleton structure. So if moon is Edwin reborn, explains moon violent behavior to Gregory where sun/Fiona wanted the mimic fixed and not destroyed. Edwin would rather destroyed it instead.

back in ruin sb.

in the background ambiance you can hear the voice say "her end" while in the daycare.

her??? Fiona end?? i always thought that line was weird because who was her back then???

Moon comment "no more sun, take your nap" , eerily similar to Edwin behavior to Fiona AI/sun telling her she not the real Fiona and he does not want to hear her voice anymore. and to leave him alone.

And also sun singing there sad song, how no more sun, go away. Edwin rejection of Fiona ai.

This behavior is seen in sb/ruin sun/moon behavior that reflects back to Edwin and Fiona...so it leaves question did there spirit hunt the newer sun/moon animatronic or?

In the mini game in moon exe.? we appear to be the mimic building moon/Edwin a new body? so he can find peace and it starts to light up.. hinting sun/Fiona spirit has come back to him, and they are reunited together with Edwin/moon in the new body.

Did the mimic try to rebuild his parents? if he can mimic Edwin, perhaps he learned how to build things to.

and sun and moon animatronic are created based of his creator Edwin and his wife/Fiona?

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Sun and moon lore in SOTM spoilers

After seeing the new story. spoilers below

and learning of Fiona and Edwin and the mimic.

and how Fiona is represented as the sun, light.

and how Edwin is represented as destruction, darkness.

= sun/moon dynamic reference back in sb, with sun/Fiona coming out in light mode, and Edwin coming out in darkness mode.

Edwin is revealed to have been violent to the mimic, where it learned that behavior. in sb people theory if Gregory was a mimic. if go based of Freddy upgrade eyes, seeing the inside of Gregory skeleton structure. So if moon is Edwin reborn, explains moon violent behavior to Gregory where sun/Fiona wanted the mimic fixed and not destroyed. Edwin would rather destroyed it instead.

back in ruin sb.

in the background ambiance you can hear the voice say "her end" while in the daycare.

her??? Fiona end?? i always thought that line was weird because who was her back then???

Moon comment "no more sun, take your nap" , eerily similar to Edwin behavior to Fiona AI/sun telling her she not the real Fiona and he does not want to hear her voice anymore. and to leave him alone.

And also sun singing there sad song, how no more sun, go away. Edwin rejection of Fiona ai.

This behavior is seen in sb/ruin sun/moon behavior that reflects back to Edwin and Fiona...so it leaves question did there spirit hunt the newer sun/moon animatronic or?

In the mini game in moon exe.? we appear to be the mimic building moon/Edwin a new body? so he can find peace and it starts to light up.. hinting sun/Fiona spirit has come back to him, and they are reunited together with Edwin/moon in the new body.

Did the mimic try to rebuild his parents? if he can mimic Edwin, perhaps he learned how to build things to.

and sun and moon animatronic are created based of his creator Edwin and his wife/Fiona?

Update: side note, Edwin and Fiona family picture with there son. Edwin in moon colors, and Fiona in sun color. also Fiona does have a tooth gap in her married photo. and noticed sun has tooth gap to in the sb artwork.

Also Edwin was revealed to have humor/jokes. though he more twisted in sb moon version with his jokes.

In the sotm, there a secret boss fight underground, of a moon locked down there in chains.. I think that might been Edwin locked down there, by the mimic. and more likely dead, then later reanimated. similar to Afton?? also the moon has a voice of a older man, which probably Edwin's. he keeps saying sleep/hush. and that was Fiona ai goal to put the mimic to sleep, and told it to sleep and their parents loved them.

Checking the voice actor for sleepy moon, shows he has same voice actor as Edwin.

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you know how some traits can skip a generation?

(I just really like the idea of Shadow being Silver's dad)

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Rich and Patty hall- Husband and Wife=Huggy and Kissy update

(spoiler chapter 4 near end)

so far

Chapter 2 confirms Rich has a note with hearts to call patty hall.

Chapter 3 Rich mentions he has a wife, and he is trying to be better for her! So with the in game clue left for us. Small piece each chapter. This points to Rich and patty being husband and wife as a strong Possibility. The only two character who are married in the employee list that we know of from the documents/vhs tapes.. Also noted Rich last name is never revealed and his year date on vhs. So this could mean slow big reveal.

It's never confirmed why Patty was defiant against the company.. But if Rich is the first who goes missing.. Then his wife would most likely get frustrated with no one knowing where Rich went. and we know from chapter 4 vhs they confirm they cover up missing people who worked in poppy playco company.. So patty not gonna get any answers unless she get their attention.. and she did...when they sent her to storage B, where we know Kissy is stored.. As documents state Patty hall has been dealt with...

Though not fully- As even when she becomes Kissy she still helping us the player, breaking the rules against the company that took her husband and also turned her into toy.

I am not sure Rich-huggy is aware of his wife fate... notice in game. both the bigger bodies of Huggy and Kissy have not interacted all game.

Rich statement- he trying to be better for her, his wife who he loves.. I could see this might be the turning point for rich/huggy turning on the prototype.

Also interesting thing in chapter 3 Rich mention he feels like everyone out to get him before he promoted..

From the doey clue, I think he might found huggy and patched him up. As when doey sees kissy. He is shocked and mentions to get the medic. They are also short supply down there.

Though other strong possibility is rich repaired himself with duct tape. As we know he worked in shipping, and what do box need when closed? tape and lots of it.

What could be end goal for Huggy and Kissy fate though in probably the last chapter?

Well from clue it's possible Patty was thinking of adoption, and Rich was aware. As chapter 3 Kissy is shown looking at one the children picture-possible one of the kids she would adopted if not turned into kissy.

And we do have a child, that being Poppy.

Poppy is a child as even in recent vhs tapes she states she misses her dad. When poppy starts to have a breakdown. Kissy concern for poppy over her own fear shows. Showing patty care for the child breaking infront of her. In the newest tapes Rich is shown looking out for his younger employee. and calls him kid. So to me this shows rich and patty might have adopted a child if not what happen to both of them. As in chapter 3 kissy was shown aggressive when we neared the abandons orphanage area.. And she know what they do the children in here.

As kissy stays behind to follow poppy and protect her from the prototype. She shows concern like a mother looking out for her child.

As we see her hang on the cliff ledge after she looses her right arm. choosing to stay behind and go after Poppy.

kinda symbolic now both of them have lost their arm. Kissy right arm, and Huggy left arm.

The only thing left is to See if Rich realize his Wife is also down here with him... Maybe they threaten Rich to behave or they turn his wife like they did him.. Rich did escape to some unknown house.. probably his house.. where he and patty lived.. Trying to go back to her.. but probably realizing his appearance would scare her nor would she recognize him while she was still human at the time.

Would explain Rich anger issue/behavior doing 180 for the company. Better for his wife safety. once they realized. He was patient all those years and showed no mercy in the hour of joy..

I think in the end when they reunite, after learning the truth.. Could maybe get them fixed up by the player, and poppy is adopted by Rich and patty..

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I have found black knight to be canon since.

Sonic in generations mentions genies and magic books. and it's implied in unleash sonic missed his date with amy because he got sucked into the story book (black knight) so two canon games have referenced it.

So in the magic books alternate universe from sonic universe. There is a Shadow who is silver Father. He probably in his 30's to 40's for galahad to be in his teens. plus he not immortal like his counterpart in sa2. I do like how galahad is mention pure, because silver name also means purity/protection.

Also doesn't takashi backtrack on things he said, seen lot people point this out.

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HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

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The truth behind baby Silver

Just a quick silly doodle for no reason.

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Shadow awake in Silver timeline!? Gerald created silver hint!??

Since 2006 got erased, means shadows not trapped.

But Dr Gerald mention it takes two to open chaos portal/chaos control, sonic got retcon he can't do that in a recent interview.

So that leaves shadow and silver who can do chaos control...

Chaos control-power to manipulate time. As Shadow is shown to freeze time. While Silver shown to be a amped up version of this power as he can travel through time. imo i don't see him being born with those powers, unless he was engineered like Shadow. And Gerald already has experience working on Shadow creation.

Also time paradox Gerald if he had his memories... after seeing timeline messed with.... made me think did he create Silver!? Maria words there always a way for shadow and her to meet again.. but that would be time travel.....As shadow is destine to outlive everyone and watch them die due to his immortality which is sad.

Gerald dialogue in generations hinted he realized shadow would be alone and no family who long lived like him. plus the timeline being messed with. I don't see him sit back and let bad forced get away with it. thus Silver creation or set up. As silver could been in deep sleep after creation waking 200 years in the future. etc

This stood out to me for years on design traits between silver and black doom and shadow. and now with the reveal of black doom looking at shadow as perfect host...... but then noticed this.

1.black doom small head spikes on head, similar pattern on silver quills but longer . and the long side spikes on the side of the head......

2.black doom third eye,/the third eye is linked with psychic powers which silver has, as he can fly. Just as black doom does same as he levitates. so it is psychic powers.

3.The name Silver has meaning purity/protection also the meaning of Silver was used to fight curse/evil in myths with warewolves etc, and we got black doom race which looks like immortality/evil.

4. Silver concept had him as alien from a ancient race, Black doom is ancient alien race.

5. Silver eyeline color match with shadow markings, super form the black eyeliner turn red from his aura of super.. which found interesting.

6. Both shadow and Silver share chaos power manipulation of time, the portal hint it takes two. I think our shadow survive in silver timeline and is helping him travel back maybe??

7. Both shadow and silver have inhibiter rings, in project 2006 it is restored where original sonic 2006 it never activated, because game was bugged/unfinished. You can see silver restored inhibiter activate and close when his power switched on/off

I've noticed black doom chains have Silver theme color and some cyan...

I think Gerald if he did engineer Silver based of shadow dna but went full cleaning removing mutation genes. Making Silver immune to black doom mutation as seen with Doom shadow powers. Also silver psychic powers show he has strong mental focus, immune to hive mind manipulation that black doom holds over the race.

Basically gerald could made silver as protection for shadow beside family. (a fail safe backup) A way to fight black doom trying to control shadow or make connection to shadow. Since Silver would be immune from black doom mind control, and could help shadow stay focused.

We did not see much of silver in sonic x shadow generations, So am curious what going on. since this would been perfect to bring him into the story plot with the time eater, unless sega saving it for later.

Also side mention mephiles to back up shadow and silver connection possibility, he took on shadow form. his shadow correct. But here the problem. mephiles does not have black doom dna or red markings, instead he is silver/black color. So i do wonder if shadow would have had silver/black without black doom dna influence in his dna for red coloring, it might been silver original in the hedgehog dna make up.

Honestly could be maybe, plus Shadow would have family now who long lived liked him thx to gerald, A son. for the chaos control theory to open time portal.

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So that color theory with maddie shirt..Seems true.. Rewatching this, Notice the silver and cyan color chao!!!

Behind jeff fowler, there is a silver chao with cyan colors and stage 4 behind him, movie 4 has been confirmed.

With the reveal at sonic 3 end credits with characters shown.. I can see time travel plot.. and by that chao color hint.. Silver!!

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Star light

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The Hug

Amy hugging shadow just same as Maria hugging him! Shadow was very Calm when Amy hugged him, after seeing dark Beginnings preview.

and how later amy parallels Maria true words to Shadow to make him remember.

I just hope they show this and not cut Amy important role out like they did in sonic x. Where she made Shadow Remember his dear friend and her wishes in the original sa2.

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That is interesting detail, good catch.

This make me think more on shadow, chaos+ time stop powers.. and the confusion early with shadow being shadow, when it hinted two capsules fell to earth.... meaning maria saved two beings that day? why they think later if shadow is not shadow... but shadow is shadow.. so who was the other??

Also Silver power look to be inherited with chaos+time powers.. no one else can do that beside shadow..

and

new trailer for sonic x shadow generations has black doom saying his "latest creation" a new being? and he also shifting time, so either that the time eater.. or....

maybe silver has connection, though did not expect black doom to be the one to create... just have to wait..

I also heard they retcon sonic can't do chaos control..

so only shadow, and silver... am wondering if there gonna go back on what they said about shadow and silver related.

Silver's prototype profile says that he has "powers that draw from the Chaos Emeralds" and you know what else draws power from the Chaos Emeralds?

Not only is the energy of the Eclipse Cannon green/teal/cyan like Silver's powers but the electricity that it gives off is like the Psycho Shock that Silver uses on Sonic in 06.

While Silver can use his powers without Chaos Emeralds the bit about him drawing power from them is still made canon at the end of his Sonic Channel introduction story where his powers get super charged by one when he and Sonic are saving the bridge.

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SHADOW x SONIC GENERATIONS ‘DARK BEGINNINGS’ FIRST LOOK

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comm for @hishighnesstheprincess <3

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Relatively old unfinished Dadow art.