Adrinette BREAK UP in season 6.
And Cat Noir is again “a partner like any other!”
The problems of the main characters, which are likely to arise in season 6, have already been demonstrated to us in seasons 4 and 5.
First of all, the main problem in the relationship between Adrian and Marinette, Ladybug and Cat Noir will be the secrets of Marinette (Ladybug), as well as distrust. Cat Noir and Ladybug often quarreled over this in season 4.
Cat noir:
- And take my Miraculous back when you're done! I won't waste your time anymore, I promise. (423)
- Maybe because you never talk to me about anything! (426)
Cat Noir understood that Ladybug didn't need his help and was doing fine without him. This was the last straw for Cat Noir, after which he switched his interest to Marinette.
Lady bug:
- I didn't listen to you, I lied to you, I kept you at a distance!
Is everything going to be different now? I think not. Because Ladybug has more secrets now. She would never have told Cat Noir who the Monarch was. And, accordingly, she will have to look for a new Hawkmoth in hot pursuit without the help of Cat Noir.
The difference between the situation in season 6 and seasons 4 and 5 is that now there is a person next to Lady Bug who knows all her secrets, her secret identity and has a high level of intelligence. Such a person in the team is very important and necessary for her, he can replace all other team members with his presence.
How do you think knowing this, how will the Cat Noir behave? Of course, he will be jealous and angry at his opponent. From here, feelings for Lady Bug can also wake up. Is not it so? Jealousy and anger can provoke the Cat Noir and he can take out his evil on Argos. Because the Cat Noir is not good at controlling his anger. And he cannot come to terms with the situation when Ladybug replaces him with someone.
As for Adrinette, things are also not as rosy as many would like. In season 5, Adrien already voiced Luka about his problems in his relationship with Marinette.
Adrien:
- It's like there's something inside that she... can't get out, like a secret side that wants to remain hidden.
- I wonder also if you could love someone fully when you don't know them completely 💥. (513)
After Felix told Marinette the story of his and Adrien's birth and all the other secrets about Gabriel, Marinette has a whole carload of secrets that she cannot share with Adrien under any circumstances.
And all because this was Gabriel’s last request before his death, and also because Adrian will not be able to adequately accept this truth.
We have all seen perfectly well what distrust and secrets can lead to on the example of the relationship between Alya and Nino. Even the greatest love can't stand a lie.
That's why I think Adrinette can't have a future as a couple, and LadyNoir can't have a future as partners.
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i think the appeal of juri to me is that women do not often get to have the comically edgy, so-far-gone it loops around to being kinda cool again visual designs, like she has a dyed hair streak and a spider tattoo and heterochromia and one eye glows bright purple its really a lot.
but also shes just a really depressed angry person who lashes out at anyone around her, especially people who try to get closer to her. which is kind of an interesting place to take a design like that. its more understated than just “i look evil and i am”
i have a big soft spot for characters who try to compensate for the lack of control and/or security they feel in their lives with anger/violence and thrillseeking. i know i’m talking about fucking street fighter here but i really am just still thinking about how at the end of your master missions with juri, after she’s kind of opened up to you and spoken frankly to you a number of times with a lot less of an emotional wall up, she abruptly pushes you away and tells you to not bother her again. idk.
there’s nothing after that. that’s just the end. you finally take two rounds off her in a fight and she just tells you “I just thought if I could get some meathead to copy my moves… maybe, just maybe, that’d be fun. But I’ve had enough. I’m sick of it.” there’s no resolution here. in her arcade mode there’s also no resolution, even though she acknowledges the fact that she feels awful — she has no idea how to fix it. she resents chun-li for her ability to heal and grow and for encouraging juri to do the same.
idk.
she lies to you about how influential and powerful she is, lies to you about her friendly relations with others, tells you the truth about her family and childhood trauma then tries to pass it off as a lie, candidly expresses her dissatisfaction with life to you. and then that’s that. it’s over.
obviously, speaking in terms of real-world motivation, her visuals were made with horny/rule of cool first and tying in with that characterization second, but in the context of that characterization it feels more like a deliberate attempt to project volatility and unapproachability. it’s kinda interesting to think about.
i will not speak on the feet thing
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Newest vidoc reveled each card part of the new arsenal has a person who has influenced cayde on it!
We know Ikora (king of diamonds), Zavala (king of hearts), Maya Sundaresh/Lakshmi (queen of hearts), and possibly Elsie (king of clubs).
What is confusing, is that the top row completely eludes me. At first, I thought Shiro might have been represented by the queen of spades, indicated by the iron lord wolves that accompany the card, but im not quite sure the exo looks enough like Shiro.
My first thoughts about the warlock, hunter, and titan, was just significant experiences with each class as his time as vanguard. But given who these other cards are about? Im not so sure about that theory, they all seem to be relating closely to who Cayde is.
Elsie sort of makes sense, if that's actually her, given that the time loop she's stuck in starts EVERY TIME with Cayde becoming vanguard. But honestly, that's really all that comes to mind.
One thing that stands out to me, is there is one, significant person missing. Where is Andal?? Unless he is represented by the hunter with the helmet, I am thoroughly shocked, and honestly a little disappointed. With how big a role Andal plays in Cayde's story, I would have expected him to make an appearance.
Id love to hear your thoughts and theories on these cards and what they represent further, so please feel free to elaborate!
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ML Season 6 Wish Fulfillment Outline
This is never going to happen but its what I want to happen, so here's the gist:
Starts in media res like the first season, Akuma are causing trouble on Lila's behalf but are being easily handled by the team.
But if you look closely you can see a Red Akuma flittering in the background sometimes that fuses with the person post purification.
Marinette's life is basically perfect, old friends and new a boyfriend, no school bullies, its great.
We see that Lila's new identity has managed to weave her way into Marinette, Adrien, Kagami & Felix's circle.
When we see Lila operating its obvious she has an accomplice who is powering her up as Nathalie once did Gabriel for Heroes Day.
This person is Chloe, seemingly being controlled via the Amok-Bracelet from season one & described as "empty" by Lila.
Things start going off the wheels however when Lila 'finds out' about Kagami's Amok & questions if she really knows she loves Felix or not.
Kagami finds out that while Felix never commanded her to love him, he did make it so she had a rose tinted view of him. He offered to let her do the same to him. She Akumatized & thrashed him, causing his Miraculous to be taken.
To his nominal credit, Felix does accept he did a terrible thing and refuses to Akumatize over it to 'get his happy ending. This causes Marinette to realize that she can't keep hiding things from Adrien and reveals the truth.
Suffice to say, lots of drama, they are on break at best, Marinette does Akumatize but pulls out of it as she keeps getting flashes of stuff she feels bad about that undermines her sense of anger.
Lila delights in the suffering & its revealed she is actually Chameleon. Basically, Hawk Moth harassed her dreams with Akuma to prime her for Heroes Day but it led to an Akuma being born inside her that took over, now it wants god hood.
This is also where we find out, Chloe was the one who broke the Peacock when Audrey made her. Thank you @generalluxun which is also why her Amok doesn't let one command her, but merely makes her easier to Akumatize if one has it. Lila briefly freaks out but determines she & Kgamai who is now under her thrall, are 'empty. We see a gold & red Akuma vanish into her back.
Things continue to progress with escelating Kuma & Sentimonster attacks & also Adrien prodding into various bits of his life that confuse him.
He & Marinette are secretly attending therapy sessions, but the camera makes it seem like they are always alone rather than sometimes.
This includes finding out Jean cannot find where Chloe lives to send Mr Cuddles & Jean musing on caring more about her than either of her parents did given their Akuma to Zoe after she & Andre have their first fight from her acting overshadowing his film making skill.
We also find out after an Anance battle that Kim is indeed afraid of spiders & even Marinette has no idea what the hell the spider prank is about. Lila muses that was something she orchestrated in secret to further isolate Chloe & only she & Adrien had even been in that pool.
This is when the cast start putting together someone very deft is pulling the strings and there is likely more going on, putting Chameleon on the clock.
We see gold & red Akuma link with Caline, Jean, Sabrina, Felix, Marinette & Adrien in secret. Also Adrien via Plagg maybe discovering Chloe & Kagami have been captured in his own investigation, & while they get away its an important reveal.
Everything comes to ahead when Lila plans to reveal Marinette's lies about Gabriel to the whole world... & gets beaten to the punch by Ladybug telling the truth.
There's still enough anger to utilize but its not what she wanted, especially as hating Marinette/Ladybug is what keeps the Akuma going & without it she'll fade.
Lots of big battles with lots of Akuma & those with red & gold reveal themselves as basically harboring parts of Chloe & Kagami's psyche that are rebelling against Lila & want to help.
A big show of Marinette's growth is that she both trusts them and is willing to make a group plan, with a lot of emphasis placed on Adrien's contributions to the plan.
Especially as it involved him becoming Chat Blanc and attacking Ladybug to distract Lila & make her feel she's won. Though Rena is on back up with illusions.
An Akumatized & transformed Sabrina breaks into Chameleon's base with Lila's mothers when it seems like she's won & the Mega-Akuma activates, letting Lila split herself from Chameleon who is them protected by Nino.
We see the mothers searching for Lila in background scenes throughout the season.
Chameleon makes a last gasp attempt for the Miraculous, but the illusions drop & she gets sucker punched with Cataclysm the thousand butterflies that made her up being purified by a Mega Miracle Cure.
The final episode is basically falling action showing the next year taking place, covering stuff like:
Marinette & Adrien's therapy sessions & the emphasis on the idea of being happy on one's own terms over someone else's.
The Kwami all spoiling their finally returned siblings as well as a subtly resolution with Chloe & Pollen.
New shows demonstrating how Hawk Moth manipulated the likes of Chloe & Lila to help sway public opinion.
Lila re-integrating into society.
The rich kids with shitty parents divorcing them to thunderous applause.
Jean taking over the hotel.
Marinette & Chloe's resolution, with Chloe conceding it wasn't the other girls job to salvage her & Marinette saying she has a better idea of how someone could choose to do things they know are bad for love.
A lot of minor fun things showing emerging dynamics like study and gaming sessions ETC.
Finally it caps off in the park where the statue of Gabriel has been replaced by a giant glowing dance floor. XY, Nino, Jagged Stone & Kitty Section are performing at the first annual Kwami Family Reunion Celebration.
We see more stuff, like Chloe & Kagami seemingly being together & talking with Juleka. Zoe and Lila dancing to the music. Kwami celebrating and chilling with people. Felix & Sabrina engaging in a spirited debate. The Guardian Monks doing a choreographed dance.
Then cap off with Marinette & Adrien taking five away from the party to talk and decide to give it another go. No secret identities, no secrets and not no surprises as both reveal a present for the other.
& that's how I'd handle that!
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I just remembered the best thing to exist, SPOUSE ROOMS. Do you guys have them drawn out yet? We've seen the patios, but what about their rooms?
I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING SO LONG TO ANSWER THIS... We did have spouse rooms drafted up but... Interior design is not my forte! I hated them. These are my ugly first drafts from months ago when I had no idea what to do.
I wanted to move away from the whole office/work room look and shift it more towards their hobbies. So of course they should have a model railroad somewhere. I put off actually attempting to sprite a model railroad until yesterday and I did nothing but work on them all the livelong day. I ended up with two different layouts because I hated the first one.
I tried basing the first off of the actual Stardew map and wanted to sprite their respective sides of the tunnel so I put off spriting it until I was done with Emmet's 8 heart event. But... that ended up being too hard to sprite in such a tiny area! I can hardly draw a train on it!
The perfectionist in me did not like it not making sense so they wouldn't like it either. The point of their railroad layouts is escapism into their perfect little world so I scrapped the first and made a new layout.
Now their spouse rooms look like this!
I played a bit with the floor layout to reference their Japanese names. With Ingo's/Nobori's you make your way upwards to a higher state! With Emmet's/Kudari's room, you descend into... wherever his mind's at.
I wanted both of their rooms to feel cozy (so even if the rest of the house is ugly at least they can stay in their room 🥲 I'm bad at furnishing and Stardew's options do not help). Ingo's was supposed to feel more secluded and well, tucked in... because he's ingoing. For Emmet's, I had the mental image of him running around, getting supplies for drawing/scrapbooking/etc. and leaving space to set up lighting/different angles when he takes pictures of his model railroad. Occasionally his back hurts and he has to lay down on the couch for a couple minutes. Or maybe you force him into a break there.
Ingo's room is more focused on being a quiet space for him to read or write. Emmet's is where he goes to keep his mind busy with his various occupations outside of work. The railroad layout is the same (I don't want to sprite a third...) but I imagine that Ingo's is around more for the ambiance while Emmet is more hands on and actively working on maintaining it.
The trains are animated, too! I made the layout with animation in mind.
I did lose track of what I was doing despite that. It took so many frames to animate. I refuse to do that again.
I hope you like their spouse rooms!
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