#(jayce apologist)

[rogerrrroger]

stop the jayce slander hes not that bad let my man live

[superchaoticcollectionprince]

Lmao Jinx apologist? I'm not apologizing for shit. Not for Jinx, not for Vi, not Caitlyn, not Viktor not Jayce, not ANYONE. They did what they did. Cry a river build a bridge and get over it.

[weltraum-vaquero]

Just finished my rereading of Fuze & friction and came to tell you how fucking amazingly written it is, youre a very talented writer and these fics keep me alive till season 2. I love how you capture viktor as a character IMMACULATELY, as a reader it simply feels like you understand him. Nothing ever feels ooc for him n i die for that in fanfics. Convergence was what actually got me into Viktor x reader, its the first fic i found and gave a shot and i binged it all in one night. Also skimmed thru ur jayce fics and while i am not a simp i am a jayce apologist (you characterize him wonderfully btw) and will defend him at a moments notice. Last thing i wanted to mention is that i love ur portrayal of slav viktor, i wish i saw it more often but i cant really write it myself either as i am not slavic, but imglad to see the professionals have it covered. Ur books/fics are the gods gift to this earth

I am honestly so thrilled that you liked my writing enough to read stuff about a character you weren’t even interested in romantically. And it makes me so happy to hear that even after it’s been such a long time since I posted fics like convergence and f&f, they’re still getting so much love.

I feel pretty bad about never getting to finish those fics, but people like you, who find such enjoyment in them as they are anyway, make it feel like writing them was worth it, even if I never managed to complete them. Thank you for that!

Ps: if you like slav viktor, why not give portraying him a go? Representation can come from many places, not just the group themselves. I’d also be very happy to help out to the best of my abilities, and I’m always open to having a little chat, anon! If you ever want to give it a go, I’d love to see where it takes you.

[birgosaurus]

anyone else realise jayvik is just a slow and steady pipeline to becoming a jayce enjoyer.

you start out projecting onto viktor, because you like him more and relate to him more. fine and good. you kind of don’t like jayce or you hate him. all is well. then you start projecting more onto viktor. and suddenly you can tolerate jayce. and you go from, “yeah i hate jayce he sucks,” to…. “yeah i hate jayce he sucks, no i am not drawing him, no, i hate him. i’m not writing about him i HATE this man; no, SERIOUSLY, i’m telling you. yeah, i won’t shut up about him. it doesn’t mean anything”

you relate to viktor a little too much. the denial simmers.

“haha my lil himbo haha <3333 look at him and his lil crystal collection <33333 wow hes doing science ! <3333 awwe he’s so passionate about the things he cares about <3333 WHAT THE FUCK JUST CAME OVER ME”

and then you’re a jayce apologist.

[ghoul-haunted]

I spent a good chunk of time watching s1 of arcane waiting to hate jayce, but that didn't happen, instead he did a speed run of my favorite romantic tragedy motif, so for season 2 I will do the exact same thing----

[existentialdruid]

Catch me up at midnight being a Jayce critic.

[specialgrades]

˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ swathed in lace.

arcane men x camboy!reader headcanons

warnings: descriptions of sex work, praise kink, degradation, size difference, incel!jayce if you squint, mild feminization, belly bulge mention, breeding mention, marcus apologist content

a/n: back at it again with my (loaded) god complex (cock it and pull it) reader is a switch in this overall. all characters here are 18+

viktor

he is literally so nervous the first time he tunes in to your live

he refuses to get off to you even though that's the entire purpose

he feels like he's violating something by doing so

he eventually caves after he tunes in extra early when you're just talking to chat

and your laugh makes his heart melt

thanks the gods he's laying down because if he was standing when you thank him for a compliment he'd fall over

he doesn't spend money on you, not because he doesn't want to but because he's afraid to admit he gets off to you

(as if his presence doesn't say that already)

all in all he's very shy about the whole thing, if you want him to come out of that shell good luck

if you ever get off without touching and/or without toys (ie. pillow humping) he rewatches the vod whenever you don't stream

if you do special individual videos, he might order one. he's timid, but by god if he hears you beg for him specifically, a side of himself he didn't even know was there will come out

call him pet names he'll whimper a little. good boy or baby boy will kill him in a fun and sexy way

ekko

another sweetie 

scar for sure walked in on him watching you bounce on a dildo once

very sweet with his comments, and stern in his requests

if you tease him directly he's a goner

sends donations on occasion, especially if a toy is linked to them. he likes to watch you squirm and try to read out donations all breathy

if you wear lace he Will shamelessly mention how sexy you look

bonus points if you just pull aside the lace to get off

anonymously buys you things off your wishlist and almost cums without touching if he sees you wearing or using the things he bought

totally didn't buy a vibrator for himself after he saw how worked up you got with one taped to your body

jayce

literally got scammed so many times with those porn games. he's clumsy navigating the scene

ya know the thing of dominant personalities wanting a submissive outlet? yeah. yeah

one on ones where you direct him how to touch himself to you? he's all for it

if you degrade him even slightly? oh lord he's whimpering like a bitch

tell him you wish it was him fucking you like this. tell him how you'd bounce on his dick and he'll cum in record time

shamelessly spends money on you. he did not learn from his mistakes to do it sparingly.

he lives for when you mention he bought you the outfit you're wearing or toy you're using. basks in the praise and knowledge that he paid for you to look that pretty

almost bought you one of those dildos you can get in the shape of a real dick but realizes that would be weird right as he was about to order it

two words: belly bulge. i KNOW this man is packing and i KNOW the visual would go straight to his (dick) head

for special individual videos, he's 100% bought into it. hearing you moan his name is imprinted on his brain

silco

total fucking dom. degrades the shit out of you in chat

buys you things on and off your wishlist. will lose it if you wear wine red anything.

mans basically keeps your lights on

doesn't send you anything of him like others might, likes to keep you wondering

in one on ones he tells you what to do and how you're affecting him

will call you his little slut if you let him

cocky motherfucker. will belittle you for trying to get off with such a small toy, probably hinting that he could fill you much better than any of those toys could

sir kink. i make the rules. beg to cum while calling him sir and he'll most likely let you

lives for when you overstimulate yourself. shaking and trying not to cry? he eats that shit UP

vander

busy man needs to unwind at some point

found you purely by accident

soft dom. praising KING

loves delicate outfits. soft lace, the works.

knows full and well you'd be so small in his hands and learns something about himself when he realizes that

another sir kink enjoyer

spends money on you sparingly, always with sweet praise tied to it

enjoys the start and end of streams the most when you're just interacting with chat, telling them about your day and what not

he knows that he doesn't know you personally, but feels closer to you with these non sexual moments

anyway. use your words with him. full sentences. ask nicely to cum

if you don't tag on a please he might as well just had not heard you

prefers toyless streams, watching your fingers pump in and out of your hole is better than any toy to him

marcus (i am a marcus apologist)

gentle, enjoys it if you praise chat like they're getting you off and not a toy or your hands

also prefers the streams without any toys, just you and your hands

make sure you respond to his messages!! he needs the validation

also a busy man, but when he can be alone it's with your stream open

also enjoys your small talk, especially if you sympathize with him and praise him for doing a good job at work

cannot watch vods. especially if he's already seen it

if you mumble smth abt breeding he will combust

[bedknees]

Okay so I'm gonna preface this by saying that I am literally one Viktor's biggest dick-riders. My blog header "Viktor Apologist" isn't there for no reason. In both League and Arcane canons, I completely understand and empathize with him as a character and how the circumstances of his life led him to where he is. His intentions are ultimately for the betterment of society, no matter how misguided he is. Viktor believes he is doing the utmost good. He is unarguably wrong and shouldn't be blindly agreed with for any reason, but you can at least acknowledge that he isn't here to be malevolent and he is trying to make the world a better place in his own way.

But I am kind of sick of seeing complete absolution of his wrongdoings. For this, I'm focusing on Arcane canon only, because by and large that's my main point of concern regarding this line of thought that "Viktor did nothing wrong. It was the Hexcore's fault/it was Jayce's fault/It was his illness' fault that he did what he did."

So let's explore what's wrong with that general statement.

Viktor is viewed, incorrectly, as someone who had no choice. As someone who needed to take the risks he did. And that is so wrong!! Because the real tragedy of his character is that he did have a choice. He had the choice of seeking out his sociopathic mentor and acquiring an illegal drug for unethical experimentation on himself. He had the choice to, oh I don't know, fucking wait for the blockade to lift so he could get more Shimmer--which he proved worked in his experiment. Instead, he consciously chooses to say "fuck it, I'm carving runes into my body and going for it." He knew the risks and took them anyways. And it led to an innocent woman dying. (An aside, but it's clearly established in Act 1 that his reckless tendency to leap before he looks is a fixed facet of his character and not born out of his terminal illness or the Hexcore's influence. It's merely exaggerated due to the circumstances, but it was always there.)

Now, there is nuance there. There's, once again, the fact he was dying and the clock was decidedly against him. There's the fact that the Hexcore seems to have a degree of influence over him. That's the thing, though. For the first point, yeah he was dying and it's sad and his desperation is not hard to understand. But, he chose to be impulsive. He chose to seek out a questionable man that he ran from in fear as a child. He chose to be shortsighted and not properly consider the true risk to what he was doing.

As for the Hexcore, I loathe the idea that it's somehow controlling his actions. Aside from it preventing him from destroying it, it doesn't seem to have enough of an influence for him to have no control over what he does. And the show outright illustrates this! It's a way better take to equate the Hexcore to some form of mental illness. Having something like, say, generalized anxiety can make you predisposed to panicking and catastrophizing. But in the end, it has no real control there. You can consciously choose to stop, take a deep breath, and work through it. At any point, Viktor could have stopped and really thought about the implications and gravity of what he was doing. He didn't do that, though. Viktor made the choice to follow whatever influence it has. And, low and behold, he actively makes the choice to stop what he's doing and cease operations. If he was truly being controlled, he wouldn't have been able to do that.

Once again, there is nuance there. Viktor is at perhaps the most bleak and vulnerable point in his life. His mental state and desperation certainly played a part in making more reckless decisions and letting whatever the Hexcore holds over him take shape. But the idea he had no conscious choice whatsoever to stop what he was doing at any point is so unequivably wrong and contradicted by the source material.

In the end, Viktor is just a stronger and more compelling character if he possesses those key flaws. He has a good heart and wants to make people's lives better. He is impulsive and gets dangerous tunnel vision. He is empathetic and feels deeply. He recklessly pursued his goals without considering who it might hurt outside of himself. These things can and should coexist. He is far more interesting, far more fascinating to explore, when he has that complexity to his character. He has fucked up bad, will continue to make further fuck ups in different ways, but it doesn't take away from what he is at his core.

And if these faults and the realization that those were indeed his conscious choices can't be acknowledged, y'all are in for a horrible ride to be honest! You can simultaneously empathize with a character while also not agreeing with their actions. Remember that going into Season 2.

[aevallare]

on the topic of jayce is literally one of the best characters:

PEOPLE DONT GIVE HIM ANY CREDIT FOR BEING SOOO KIND AND RESOURCEFUL AND PASSIONATE,,,like yes ofc hes made mistakes whatever hes a fictional character and also he always does what he thinks is necessary for good?? and hes been forced into really precarious situations that quite frankly DONT allow him to sit and think hard abt what his next step can be and often his gut tells him to just keep on going and try to save people-- not to act at the cost of everyone else-- and thats fucking amazing!!! hes genuienly trying to be a good guy!!!!! and also if he hates viktor a little bit...well yeah no fucking duh hes a little easily misled and he was told the man was /doing unethical human experiments on zaunites/ after they (tragically) broke contact OVER HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION....like yeah no DUH hes gonna think viktor maybe fucked up. anyways i believe in jayce supremacy bc hes really trying his best at a time where he really should be thinking about himself and thats. so admirable

CONT: sorry for the long ask just. as a league enjoyer and an avid league reader and also a long time fan (been around since the beginning of ur fics + read jaycevik Since They Came Out On League) I cannot STAND this jayce slander

wahh! hi! sorry that this took me a second; i needed to be on pc to give this the attention it deserves :angel: i'm so glad you enjoy my work!!!

OKAY. OKAY. you came to the right place. this is a safe place for jayce sympathizers and apologists. i have cultivated a garden, a society, of jayce-lovers, and this sounds like hyperbole but truly i'm only half-joking.

okay. let's get serious. i'll put it under a read-more. sorry in advance, bestie.

i don't think any fictional character is above critical analysis. like actually, i think that's... kind of the whole point? not to be a pretentious douche with an english degree (which i am) about this, but my problem with analysis of jayce's character by people that don't like jayce is that it's performed almost solely through a lens colored by the critic's perception of viktor.

you can't talk about jayce without viktor, and you can't talk about viktor without jayce, which isn't a problem unto itself! they have to have each other to create any kind of satisfying narrative! unfortunately, many arcane fans don't appear to understand that viktor is going to fuck up a lot and that he's going to fuck up bad. to fans of league viktor, this is THE APPEAL. he wants to cut out all emotion, but he's infinitely more pathos-driven than jayce is, even though the tropes played straight would make us think the opposite. the point of this, because it might seem rambly and incoherent (and it likely is both of those things), is that many people who love viktor arcane seem to think he can do no wrong.

and what that means is that it's damn easy to rake jayce over the coals for doing things that, from my perspective, are simply choices made by a man who is doing the best he can with the information he has at his disposal. viktor-lovers look at jayce and call him classist (which. like. dude is middle-class at best. my man apologizes as soon as he fucks up and says something classist on the bridge!), stupid (jayce is prodigal; it's not his fault that he's surrounded by a cast FULL of prodigies!), and ungrateful (because he didn't have a psychic link with viktor and had sex instead of rushing to viktor's bedside without anyone telling him viktor collapsed).

jayce cares so much. he cares about every injustice shown to him. he has an unbelievably soft heart. that's why long-time fans understand just how bad this is going to hurt (affectionate) when talis gets a little more giopara-fied.

arcane does a damn good job showing us that monsters are created by other people. you can't have jayvik unless jayce and viktor end up hating each other a little. jayce and viktor don't become jayce and viktor unless jayce lets viktor fall when his work is stolen, unless viktor makes compounding bad choices in the name of his glorious evolution.

it's opposing ideology wrapped in parallels, a man forced into being a symbol and another man who made himself into one (never mind that that wasn't his intent).

[macsimoff]

officially outing myself as a jayce apologist. it’s not his fault he’s easily susceptible to the charms and manipulations of hot women. he’s just like me

[burningdarkfire]

listen. i am a viktor enjoyer and viktor is 100% just my type of little fucked up guy and i love him. but viktor has a million fans and jayce has like, ten, so despite jayce not even being on my like top three characters of arcane list, i spend all my time talking about him. i’m a jayce talis apologist. i think he’s one of the most interesting “complicated” characters to exist in the media that i’ve consumed recently. i enjoy thinking about what it’s like inside his head. this post is brought to you by every single conversation i have with my friends about arcane where i have to defend my atrocious taste in characters

[dubiousdisco]

I don't wanna sound like a silco apologist (though I am) but all of those things he asked Jayce for when they met seemed very reasonable to ask for idk why jayce was so upset he should have brought viktor and mel instead

[birgosaurus]

i’m a jayce apologist because jayce talis has an internal soundboard that only he can hear. i can’t stress this enough; he’s stuck in a sitcom.

mans will help some old dude on the street with his groceries and he hears a crowd “aww!”, followed by cheers and applause. he probably laughs at his own jokes because anytime he makes one he hears canned crowd laughter. any argument he gets into is met with a crowd GASP and quiet murmurs.

only he understands. only he hears it.

jayce talis is stuck in a sitcom.

[cantarella]

actually fuck it I AM a jayce apologist I don't give a shit anymore man's funny as hell

[existentialdruid]

I am nearly finishing Arcane! Only 25 minutes left... So far it has left me in absolute shock. I kind of knew what was going to come but still it was shocking.

I do understand now why so many people don't like Jayce. He is so ambivalent it gets on my nerves. Also he was fucking while Viktor was literally dying like, tf bro?!?? Can't wait for them to figth in the second season.

AlSO! I am a Silco apologist (/J/J). I just think he is a preatty neat character, not at the same level that Viktor tho, but still pretty interesting. Same applies to Mel's mom and to Professor H.

Pog!!!<- i don't say that alot so I mean it.

The last 25 minutes will put you back together just to break you again.

Yeah, Viktor is cool and his story and everything is really good. Especially it's cool to know that the scientist who young Viktor had met is the same I've that made the serum for silco.

And yeah i get it if you're a silco apologist. Especially in the last few episodes it's touching.

And like oh my god everything is so good like that scene with jinx and ekko on the bridge, my god.

And yeah prof H is pretty neat. Can't wait to see what he does with the firelights.

Fun fact: the twink with Mel's mom also had an appearance in the brothel. Turns out that dude is sort of important seeing that he has an actual name in the game