#Android 20

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Confrontation

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"The Red Ribbon is your family now."

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dragon ball + screenshots of despair

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[amelheth]

Imma gonna hate tagging this...

ENLARGED SIZE CHART OF FAVE CHARACTERS

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[chestnutisland]

Stop tempting me...T_T

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The Androids Appear

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Weird thoughts about Dragon Ball FighterZ's story

So, it might be that I watched too much of the team four star lets play of the story mode and how much they talk about fetishes, but one thing that stands out to me is the Link System, and how it connects, possibly, to Dr. Gero's plans.

The Link System was, supposedly, made by Gero, to link a soul to a body, to control that body, including the bodies of his androids. In the game, it's treated mostly as an excuse for the player to feel involved, and to explain why only one character is controlled at a time. At the start of the game, the player's soul has complete control over Goku, its only by science from Bulma that Goku regains his own personality and will, leaving the player in control in gameplay.

All in all, if Gero had ever gotten the link system to work when he was alive, which apparently he couldn't, it would have solved a lot of the problems he had of his creations being willful and rebelling against him.

And, we already know that Gero eventually put his own brain in an android body, so him previously attempting to make an android and linking his soul to it, but then resorting to the brain transfer when that didn't work. Makes a kind of sense, to me anyway.

It even makes the details of Androids 16 and 21, blatant attempts to recreate his seemingly lost family members (although the story of FighterZ is weird with 21, at some points implying Gero's wife Vomi was turned into 21 like 17 and 18 but also that 21 is a bioandroid like Cell created 10 years ago) make a bit of sense, if he could link his son's soul to 16, his wife to 21, and himself to 20, they could all be a family again and live together forever.

What makes things. Weirder. Is where Cell fits in. Like, for starters, the timeline makes no damned sense, because Cell wasn't completed in the future timeline until Age 786, and the events of FighterZ take place during Super in Age 779. Although, when Cell emerged, those were in timelines with very different pasts than the "main" timeline. For starters, Cell didn't emerge in a timeline after Cell happened. And while Buu was always on Earth, the Buu Saga hadn't happened, and the indications of the Super Manga and other material is that Future Babidi didn't try to go after Buu in that timeline until after Trunks already killed Cell.

Cell was an abandoned project worked on by Gero's computer after he gave up, and while in the Cell Saga Trunks and Krillin destroy the computer and the larval Cell. If Gero had other labs and computers working on projects, it makes a kind of sense those would adapt to changing circumstances.

But what's weird about Cell, is that, if we factor in the Link System. Was Gero intending Cell to be his new body? Before he gave up and let his computer work on it?

And, worse, Evil 21 has a special transformation when she absorbs Cell, like how Cell absorbs 17 and 18. So, like.

Was Gero's endgame to put his soul in Cell, and then get vored by his wife?

[dragon-ball-meta]

According to a rumor, Toriyama initially gave Future Trunks a sword due to 19 & 20 being the ones who were originally going to terrorise the future; and since they could absorb ki, Future Trunks needed a way to circumvent their ability by avoiding hand-to-hand / ki blast based combat. However, when Toriyama decided to switch to 17 & 18 who couldn't absorb ki the sword didn't have a story purpose anymore thus it was quickly broken and not used anymore in the Cell arc. Is there any truth to this?

Well, 19 and 20 were originally the only Androids, but I'm not 100% sure that's the sole reason for the sword. I've yet to see anything on that myself, but it's possible.

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DR. GERO'S ATTEMPT TO RECREATE HIS FAMILY

(This has been in my drafts since June 25th 2022. 😅 I hope you enjoyed it & sorry if I over explain things. I'm trying to do that less often.)

The Red Ribbon Army took photo ID of Gero, Vomi, & Gevo. The photos on file appear to be around a time before their death, relaying that Vomi & Gevo passed away when they were relatively young. And Gero loved his family so much so that his goal was to bring them back through science & technology. Oddly enough... you kinda feel sorry for Dr. Gero.

Key word, "kinda." You cannot forget that he conducted inhumane experiments on two kidnapped teens for many years until they forgot their names and were turned into living weapons with bombs in their chest. Gero's a evil sick bastard. But, even evil ppl can love their own family.

GEVO; ANDROID 16'S TEMPLATE

Dr. Gero modeled Android 16 after his late son, Gevo. He was part of Gero's experiment to see if he could recreate his family. And #16 is a completely mechanical android made to be extremely powerful & was by far the strongest of the numbered Artificial Humans that Gero created.

When #17 & #18 wanted to release #16, Gero said that #16 was so dangerous that he would destroy the world, so he deemed him a failure. But, #18 finds it interesting that Gero kept this extremely dangerous "failure" around when Gero destroyed all the other failures prior to #16. Then, Gero stutters & makes up more excuses. This makes you wonder why did Gero keep #16 around. 🤔

In a Q&A that is now common knowledge, Toriyama revealed that #16 is modeled after Dr. Gero's son. Then, Toriyama explained that Gero did not want the mechanical recreation of his son to be destroyed in battle, so he gave him a gentle personality. This gentle personality resulted in #16 being deemed a failure & Gero had him placed in a special chamber for safe keeping.

[Link to the Q&A here.]

But, why did Gero install a bomb inside a robot replica of his son? Because Gero placed explosive devices in all the artificial humans that he made. It was a safety precaution to assure that his creations/weapons would not turn against him or fall into the enemy's hand. The bombs were also be used as a last resort against an enemy that is too powerful.

I find it amazing that Gero gave the fully mechanical #16 his own unique personality & made him sentient. In a sense #16 was a living machine. Gero was an extremely intelligent guy to be able to create artificial consciousness.

GERO; MECHANIZED HIMSELF

Dr. Gero also decided to turn himself into a cyborg in the present timeline because he desired eternal life, becoming #20.

(Its unknown if Future Gero turned himself into a cyborg because it is not shown in the manga. But, the filler sections of the anime depict him as a cyborg.)

Gero wanted to live forever in a world ruled by the Red Ribbon Army, and he wanted to do so alongside his family. Thus, he began recreating them. But, Gero only progressed to creating a robotic replica of his son & mechanizing himself.

VOMI; ANDROID 21'S TEMPLATE

Vomi is canon to the main DB continuity.

Bio-Android 21 is only canon to the video game continuities. (Specifically FighterZ, but she appears in Xenoverse 2, Dokkan Battle, & DBZ: Kakarot too.)

The creation of #21 was different from converting a human into a cyborg, & far more advance than how #16 was made completely from mechanical parts. Bio-Android 21 was an absorption-type created by Gero's computer in a similar way that Cell was, but modeled after his late wife. #21 was created from the combined DNA of highly intelligent humans as well as the strongest humans. But, Gero's computer also added cells from Majin Buu for more strength, resulting in her Majin 21 forms.

Perhaps bio-androids like Cell were the next step in Gero's plan to recreate his family while creating himself a new bio-organic body after his cybernetic one.

THE IRONY...

Vomi & Gevo were not a good people (that we know of) & both worked for the Red Ribbon Army. Ironically, the artificial human versions of themselves ended up being good people. Dr. Gero's immediate family were evil ppl. Except for his other son...

- THE UNNAMED SON -

Although he had another son, Gero did not have a close relationship with him. His unnamed son resented his father and the Red Ribbon Army & disassociated himself from his father.

It is mentioned in DBS: Super Hero that the parents of the 24 yr old Dr. Hedo had died when Hedo was young. And Hedo was 7 yrs old when his grandfather, Dr. Gero, was killed by #17. This indicates that Hedo's parents may have died shortly after the Cell Saga. Meaning, Dr. Gero did not recreate his other son because Gero was killed before his other son passed away. And because of their strained relationship, Gero may not have even recreated this son if given the opportunity.

AN INTERESTING DETAIL + SPECULATION

Gero: A pun on the Japanese word for "vomit."

Vomi: A pun on the English word "vomit."

Gevo: This name is interesting. It combines the "ge" & "vo" of his parents' names, and Gevo's name pun is still on a Japanese phrase for "vomiting."

Hedo: Yet another "vomit" name pun. But, this one references the word "反吐" which is "anti-vomiting" medicine.

Haku?🤔: If ever revealed, perhaps this will be the name of Gero's other son. The kanji for Haku is "吐" & also means "vomit." And what makes this theory of mine interesting is that Hedo's name pun consists of this character, but in front of it is the kanji "反" that means "anti." If Haku is the name, then the father's name is within the name of his son.

[silverwoodwork]

Krillin finds the scientist couple up to something weird...

original meme:

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I just think he is neat.

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DBZ Thoughts: Absorption's Effect on Long-Term Power Levels

So Cell and Androids 19 & 20 had the ability to absorb people's power. However, does their base power level increase or do they just get a short-term boost? It makes more sense for it to be a short-term boost but canon seems to treat it as a long-term increase to their base.

How do Androids 19 & 20 recharge anyway? Would absorption be their fuel source? In that case, absorption would give a short-term boost.

As for Cell, there was a difference between how he absorbed the androids vs other organic beings. Absorbing the androids should result in a long-term increase in his base power due to his transformations but I think the humans, basically acting as his food, should only offer a short-term boost. Ugh, I hate Cell.