#Astrid. I say

[elshe]

I’m going to hop on the “what if Hiccstrid had Zephyr during rtte” bandwagon, and shamelessly contribute to what has caused my devastating brainrot these past few weeks, cause it’s just. so. good.

Can you imagine all the reactions and conflicts?!??

Not to mention the SCANDAL jk😩

my bebe boy Snotlout takes any opportunity to tease Hiccup about it, because, really, it is sooo funny.

might write a whole fic on it fr fr

That Hiccup angst is just— mmm… *chefs kiss* 🤌🏻

[saturnniidae]

[rosiethedragongeek]

the gang should've been able to say fuck, right, we all agree, we all get it, but i also think it would be funny if ONLY the twins got to say fuck the whole gang is reacting to something and they're all oh my thor :0 and tuffnut just goes well FUCK

[aardvaark]

im so glad that we never get a clear picture of sophie’s background in leverage & i hope we never do. however i also really like making up various, often conflicting backstories for her in my head. perhaps they’re all backstories for an alias of hers, ones she laid to rest back in season two.

[lilaccatholic]

I am once again thinking about the reluctant ruler whose arc justly and correctly includes assuming the throne and taking responsibility for the people set before them

[diamondcitydarlin]

'wow beetlebabes shippers have NO media literacy didn't they see how TRAUMATIZED Lydia was by her past with Beetlejuice????!? she's literally TERRIFIED OF HIm omg yall are SO DUMB'

I mean...she literally summoned him again to get his help and then brought up marriage within 10 secs of doing that and, at worst, just seemed mildly annoyed by the idea/him. See, I think if you actually have unbiased media literacy, you can recognize that Lydia's issues don't stem from Beetlejuice specifically, she isn't inherently frightened of him (and to suggest so is to completely misunderstand and infantilize her character imo, she never was frightened of him give me a fucking break lol) so much as she is by the reminder of her inherent connection to the afterlife, which ironically she's trying to fight against despite having a successful show about it. Like, again yall, it's fine if you don't like the pairing. It's fine if it grosses you out. What is wholly unnecessary is the suggestion that people who do like it are somehow media illiterate or just 'not as smart as you' or just not getting some elusive concept that only super intelligent moral people can for not also thinking it's gross. You aren't smarter, you just have a different preference for interpreting and enjoying the story. There was a time more people understood that concept.

And not for nothing, but despite your HIGH INTELLIGENCE some of yall still don't know how to tag your anti posts so they don't show up in the shipping tag- though I kind of suspect that's on purpose to try to start shit where there doesn't need to be any, but still, show me how so much smarter you are than me by censoring beetlebabes in a hater post just once challenge (level: impossible)

[c-kiddo]

obsessed wiht how cad was quoted in cr3 not even named or anything and half the cast immediately went

[1000dactyls]

so invested in my thoughts about trans hiccup right now that in the span of one night i’ve:

Written more of my httyd au/retelling where hiccup gets taken with valka and then separated from BOTH his parents and somehow manages to find his way back to berk anyway

Drawn 4 pages of a comic exploring t4t hiccstrid with probably 8 more pages to go

Started a whole other wip fic exploring tgirl hiccup during rtte-era (which i literally haven’t even finished watching)

and so in honor of my lack of self control and especially in light of point 3… here’s tgirl hiccup U_U

[spacenintendogs]

the little snotstrid side bit in this comic is adorable

[astrid-beck]

Do you guys ever think about how Archmage Astrid probably inherited a class of volstrucker trainees. Like that program was alive and well when she took up her post and even if she wanted to change it eventually you cannot end a program like that overnight. You still have to look at a teenager with rocks in their arms and decide what to do with an abandoned science project soldier who doesn't even have the consolation of being finished or powerful or old enough to drink

[puretopia]

Sunday

[saturnniidae]

What if Nadder's were even more like parrots, in the sense of being able to mimic human speech, and Stormfly just went around yelling at people like Astrid

[memoriamp4]

I hate that we never heard Astrid tell Hiccup 'I love you'. I was fully expecting her to tell him she loved him back in rtte 6x06 after he told her he loved her... but she didn't. Like they really made an entire episode about Astrid wanting a more lovely dovey relationship but then she never even said 'I love you' in the episode?? And Astrid has so many inspiring and loving speeches to Hiccup but I wish there was an 'I love you' included in at least one of them

[miss-galaxy-turtle]

I fucking loved Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. It was such a fantastic movie and fit in so well with the first.

But like...Beetlelyds shippers...did we watch the same movie?

Lydia's whole arc dealt with how the first movie's events traumatized her. If you pay attention to her expressions throughout, whenever Beetlejuice is brought up or they interact, she's either disgusted, terrified, or both.

Especially in the wedding scene. That's not romantic, it's creepy, and it's deliberately played as such.

"Oh but he kept a picture of her at his desk for 30 years!"

Yeah...a picture of her teenage self...

"Oh but Winona Ryder ships it!"

I don't care. I love Winona Ryder, but her stance on it doesn't change my opinion.

There are even parallels between Jeremy (who is explicitly a villain and tricks Astrid) and Beetlejuice: Jeremy's outfit color scheme matching Beetlejuice's wedding outfit, Jeremy and Astrid floating like Beetlejuice and Lydia in the wedding scene, etc.

I know I'm probably not gonna change any minds here, but like...media literacy is so important and Beetlelyds shippers are proof

[goblin-dogs]

Years of training have led to this perfectly captured gargoyle pose, finally her true form is revealed

[westwindy1]

Neither Hiccup nor Astrid would make a good Chief. Hiccup is an inventor and a wanderer; he's innovative but he's not particularly considerate when he's making decisions. He doesn't think about other people, he just jumps right into things and the other Vikings just have to tough it out and suffer the consequences.

Hiccup leading the Vikings away from Berk was stupid, he was displacing hundreds of Vikings and putting them at a tactical disadvantage, so was trying to befriend Drago in 2 and in HTTYD 1, he definitley was not thinking at all with the whole bola thing. It's really obviously implied that his inventing and trying to shoot down dragons caused problems before and his repeated efforts to the same end pre canon really shows a lack of thought and consideration for others.

Astrid is an amazing warrior; she's razor focused and determined and excels under whatever set of rules she's made to operate within, but being a good warrior does not mean having good leadership skills, expecially when part of being a good warrior means being good at deferring to other people. She leaves it to Hiccup to make the eccentric decisions, like in the first movie with the dragons.

When she takes initiative, things don't usually end up well, like when she was smack talking to Drago. She's not an out-of-the-box thinker; There's just not much sense to it.

Astrid also defers to Hiccup too much, even in the third movie where the decisions he makes are heavily led by her words; she never outright tells him to do something, just implies and implies and waits for him to get it, and the ends she's working towards aren't even for the best of the village; they are, in part, self motivated.

Neither of them listens to other people; Hiccup listens to himself and what he thinks is right even when it's not and Astrid listens to the lead. Everyone else just has to follow along.

Hiccup CAN'T lead.

Astrid can't, either.

A good Chief would consider the voices of the people, they wouldn't be trying to push people into working for their own personal motivations. It should be the opposite; they would instead take the improvement of the quality of life for everyone and their physical and mental health as their first priority.

A good Chief would WANT to do that, which is also why I don't think either Hiccup or Astrid would be great at it.