#BTY cd

[sunshineandlyrics]

Louis, the expert on all things vintage, calling the Back To You CD from 2017 vintage.

AOTV Global Screening, LA, 13 May 2023 x

[silverfoxlou]

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[dreamings-free]

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[shinylights]

do we still not have a proper ripped from the cd bty audio?….. what even universe are we living in?!?

[kissyagus]

liam drop a physical version of First Time challenge

[wifeylouis]

louie drama wld never happen if ppl realised no bty cd no opinion! 

[seasurfacefullofclouds1]

It really is amazing how when it’s Harry’s promo Louis is completely MIA/silent. Even when it’s right before his own tour :/ But not to worry! Harry just basically confirmed that Louis is the fish from Eroda 🙄🤬

Right? ... a mute rainbow fish whose lifeline depends on HSHQ... whether HSHQ decides to feed it... whether HSHQ decides to let it go free or let it suffocate. At least when only one HQ is calling all the shots, it reduces carbon emissions 😭😭

Louis wasn’t invited to iheart to perform after BTY was released (Bebe was invited), and he disappeared while Harry had one-hour BBC specials, started his small-venue tour, did Grammy promo concerts, did Nova Red Room, played at the Garage and Troubadour and Xander resurfaced (lolllll). Rinse and repeat 2020. Except Harry’s fandom is a bit different now— posted for Liam to kill himself, posted that Jay could never post solo concert photos like Anne can, goes to stores to physically destroy and hide other boys’ CD’s, gloats about Jeff’s liking that Harries are the best fandom on a day when bullying was particularly vulgar and vicious. Harry making innuendos about snorting coke during Kiwi last night and his fans thinking it’s cute. (Given people who are addicted, have been jailed, have overdosed but whatevs.) I get nauseated thinking about it all.

[sadaveniren]

Kpop “sampling” 101

Okay I’m really heated about this and this is a topic I’m super fucking passionate about so HERE GOES. Hopefully this will clear up a lot of issues.

WHAT EXO FANS ARE TRYING TO SAY HAPPENED IS BASED OFF OF MISGUIDED KNOWLEDGE FROM PAST OCCURRENCES IN THE KPOP INDUSTRY AND THE CONCLUSIONS DRAWN FROM THOSE ARE WRONG

Under the cut cause it’s long and filled with videos

Exo is from the company SM Entertainment and SM is fucking NOTORIOUS for this. So. Back in the early 2000s and hell up until the early 2010s there was this huge trend of producers (American, Swedish, etc) creating melodies and then selling the melodies to different artists from different countries because at the time the internet wasn’t as global, and trying to access anything that wasn’t in your native language was virtually impossible. The Korean industry at the time was in its infancy and was trying desperately to rise up to Japanese and Chinese levels of popularity. SM’s CEO Lee Soo Man trained in LA and he was obsessed with westernizing his artists because he believed that could help them become global leaders in music.

I don’t know the full legality of how this went but the best I can equate it to is like region coding DVDs (do people remember that it was a fucking bitch i really fucking hated being in kpop fandom in the early 2000s). Songs were sold to certain regions and legally weren’t allowed to be released in other regions at the time. A few (of the many) examples are as follows:

BoA’s version isn’t a cover. They are two completely different songs. The melodies were bought by both artists and the lyrics were written. My CDs are all packed up somewhere but BoA’s version credits the original composers and even gives a shoutout to Luis’ song in the album credits. Because it was a song that was bought legitimately by SM from the producers and used to make Spark. All legal all cool.

Corbin’s version of this song was released in 2007. This was roughly around the time Kpop started becoming more global with the introduction of youtube so a lot of the rules of buying melodies started to get muddled (we’ll get to that in a minute). But it’s the exact same thing as with BoA’s song. This isn’t a cover. SM (and Jonghyun) wrote new lyrics and just used the melody. It was properly credited from the beginning and hell it was marketing tool because SM was fucking basic as hell and trying really desperate to use western songs to make them appeal to the American industry.

Sometimes SM managed to release their version first!! (the hilarity of the top comment on SNSD’s video)

(Oh man I’ve hit the embed limit so I guess we’re just linking videos now)

Demi Lovato’s Mistake

Again. Producer sold the melody. Two different countries (in this case SNSD’s version is in Japanese but regardless). Two different artists. Two very different songs lyrically.

IS ANYONE NOTICING A TREND WITH THE VIDEOS I’VE LINKED SO FAR? YOU NOTICE HOW THEY ARE ALL BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME MELODY THE WHOLE VIDEO THROUGH??? AND HOW THE PROPER PRODUCERS WERE CREDITED FROM THE BEGINNING???

One more because I hear this song all the time and I get stuck in kpop panic.

SNSD’s Dancing Queen

Duffy’s Mercy

iirc this is actually the song that started there being a mess in the whole “same melody sold to different artists” that led to it not be so common now-a-days. Both SNSD and Duffy recorded the song in 2008, Duffy’s version came out first it was a HUGE HIT and basically SM got tied up in some sort of legal battle and weren’t allowed to release their song until 2012 because Duffy’s label didn’t want there to be any sort of competition/infringement. And SM did it! Because they had legit bought the song and it felt until the contract use of the melody I’m guessing.

Once again. Same exact melody. Totally different lyrics. The SM version is not a Korean/Japanese cover of the song. Proper credits out the gate.

Have we figured out the difference yet between all of these perfectly legitimate examples of SM buying melodies from western producers and making songs that seem to “copy” a western song? What happened with Back to You is in no way shape or form the same thing I don’t care what the LoveShot producer apparently said. All these songs have these things in common:

The whole melody is the same

The original producers were credited from the start and in most cases SM came out from the gate and said “this is based off of this western song” as a MARKETING TACTIC

NEITHER OF THESE HAPPENED WITH LOVESHOT. There are only two possible explanations: 1. intentional plagiarism 2. accidental plagiarism. As I am not a lawyer and I sure as hell didn’t sit in on these probably boring fucking conversations that went something like (”This section sounds like BTY” “What section? This section?” “Yes give us credit or we’ll take you to court” “Hmmm that sounds expensive and will away from our valuable exploiting our artists fund hmmmmm we’ll give you the credit” “Thanks”) SM crediting Louis and the writers of BTY now and not from the get go means they recognize the similarities regardless of the intent. That’s it.

Round up: the thing that Exo fans said happened (The producers sold two versions of the song to two different artists and Louis just released his first) does happen and quite frequently!! Enough that for awhile we’d play the game of “what song is this” before it dropped so we could hear what the song would sound like! But! This is not one of those cases. This is way too different from what that actually looks like.

[createdoutofnecessity]

$16,000+ raised so far for Harry’s birthday

@1dfansgive​‘s charity drive for Harry’s 24th birthday is currently at 68% with a about 3 2 days to go. Drop4Drop is a great charity that works to provide access to clean water. Harry, Robin and Anne have previously donated to this charity. 

Link to drive: justgiving.com/harry24

Raffles:

See Harry in Nashville - VIP: Thanks to @roseandbee​, you can win a chance to see Harry on tour at Bridgestone Area in Nashville on June 12, 2018 with a VIP ticket!! Entries are $24 and should be tagged as #HarryinNashville. See here for additional rules. PLEASE READ RULES CAREFULLY FOR THIS ONE.

See Harry in LA: Thanks to @oopshazzalou​, you can win a chance to see Harry on tour at The Forum in Los Angeles on July 14, 2018. Entries are $10 and should be tagged as #HarryinLA. See here for additional rules.

Embrace package: This gift set donated by @cher1808​ includes an Embrace tote, HS album, Louis’ BTY CD, a Treat People with Kindness pin and adorable stickers. Entries are $5 and should be tagged as #embrace. See additional rules and pictures here.

Pins by millypins: @millypins​ is giving away pins to 10 winners! Entries are $12.94 and should be tagged as #millypins. See here for exact pins.

Hand Drawn Card/bracelet by Pasmwa: @p-a-s-m-w-a is offering hand drawn cards of whatever you want and handmade bracelets. Entries are $5. See here for additional rules and card/bracelet examples. 

Nautical mug/MITAM CDs: @chelsea-frew has donated a Starbucks mug featuring a mermaid, anchor and rose as well as Target Exclusive Harry and Louis MITAM CDs. All items are brand new and no longer available in store. Entries are $5 and should be tagged as #mermaid. See here for additional rules.

Rolling Stone/HS CD: This raffle is for a copy of Harry’s cover of Rolling Stone as well as Harry’s album. Entries are $5 and should be tagged as #RollingStone. See here for cover and details.

Another Man: Donated by @louistomlinstonismypatronus, here is your chance to win a copy of Another Man. Entries are $5 and should be tagged as #AnotherMan. See here for exact cover.

See Harry in MN: Thanks to @jumpsuitsue, you can win a chance to see Harry on his tour in St Paul, MN on July 1, 2018. Entries are $10 and should be tagged as #HarryinMN. See here for additional rules.

Other ways to participate:

Cross Stitch: A generous crafter in the UK has donated pre-made cross stitches, some framed, some unframed. Each one is listed individually in our shop. Hurry! Many of them have been sold already! See here to visit shop.

*UPDATE* Matching Donations: We are currently caught up with the number of matchers/donors. If anyone wants to match donations, let me know.

Hidden Doodles: @lucystarkid has created a range of cards and prints featuring iconic images/tattoos. Only a limited number are available so don’t miss out. 25% of the proceeds will go Harry’s drive. Lucy will now also be including two A6 pen sketches with each order. See here for additional information and here to visit her shop.

#HarryStitchAlong: @lizloveslyrics created and donated a pattern of Harry’s album. Purchase the pattern here. Join the party and post your progress along with everyone else.

*UPDATE* Raffle/Giveaway by sometimesambroswrites: Win adorable handmade creatures by @sometimesambroswrites. She has generously changed her offer so anyone who participates will get an adorable creature! See additional details here.

*NEW* clevernessoflarry’s art stores: @clevernessoflarry is donating all proceeds from her stores from now until Harry’s birthday! See here for more details and links to her stores.

Link to drive: justgiving.com/harry24

[ssfoc]

Sorry Sea! English is not my first language: about you last answer: what do you mean with a “poor album reception” as in promo or imagine related?

I mean once the album drops, my guess is Louis’ team will do the barest minimum to promote it.

The recent positive articles tell me that SOMEONE is doing something positive to promote him, but it’s not his team (who have not acknowledged positive media in any way, and still have not promoted MY properly).

LT1 will rise or sink on fan support alone, and if it is not sent to radio stations and is not featured on streaming playlists, there’s little we can do. If the album does poorly, the fall guy will be Louis himself— at least that’s what it seems like to me. His twitter fight with Ash London, for example, shows that he’s a bad sport. It gives the label a good excuse to “give up on him.” They seem to be positioning him to fail.

A friend also noticed that the last gif on the LTHQ twitter is 0:41 in the BTY video, where Bebe sings, “You kill me.” She suggests, plausibly, that the LTHQ tweets could reflect Louis’ frustration with his current status, depending on who is behind LTHQ.

This is a good thought, too! I’m a little skeptical about who is responsible for LTHQ, but @Louis just came on to tweet that he’s working on good shit in the studio, which is all sorts of — yikes.

Was this tweet to counter the thread of the LTHQ tweets? Why is LTHQ tweeting BTY lyrics? Why did @Louis come online so quickly to tweet?

Shouldn’t all writing for LT1 be done, at this point? If 90% of it was done in July 2017, and we’re looking at a first quarter release, shouldn’t LT1 be recorded and on its way to distributors?

Isn’t Louis in the UK, as suggested by his IG? What studio is he in, writing, at 12 AM London time? Didn’t he go to LA for the purpose of finishing the album? Why is he back in the UK suddenly, “writing”?

This reminds me of the Wootton article saying that Louis was signed to RCA, and suddenly one week before BTY’s release, we found out he was with Epic. By that time, CD’s had already been printed, and negotiations with Epic must have taken place prior to Wootton’s article, yet Dan didn’t know. Louis left him out of the loop. That means that presumably Rusty left Wootton out of the loop too. How?

[bottomlouis]

LOUIS TOMLINSON & STEVE AOKI - Just Hold On

website | music video | itunes | spotify | bty cd single

[lhrry]

support back to you

(will be updated with links as i get them)

1. IF IT’S OUT FOR YOU 

Buy Back To You (sponsorships)

iTunes (or other platforms)

the CD bundle

Gift Back To You to your friends/family!

Stream Back To You (streaming faq)

15 hours long BTY playlist 

Spotify | you can also stream on platforms like Amazon Prime, Apple Music, Beats Music, Google Play, Tidal..

Shazam Back To You

download the app and let it recognize the song!

Tweet

“#NowPlaying Back To You by Louis Tomlinson Listen on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/album/4sBgGazGb7S9ZUQJu2Y0qa” OR if the song is already on the Billboard Trending 140 chart, find it, click on the link and tweet from there! 

Request Back To You on your local radio stations!

2. IF IT’S NOT OUT FOR YOU 

obviously can Stream with changed acc but do remember to change to UK/US once it’s out there so it counts towards the charts!

Tweet #BackToYou and to get it to Billboard Trending 140

Shazam the snippets

PRE-ORDER / PRE-SAVE BTY (so you get it once it’s out wherever you are) 

3. OTHER

subscribe to Louis’ YouTube

sign up for Louis’ newsletter 

[youfuckingloosah]

🎥 Louist91: #Backtoyou 😎 | 2 clips together

BACK TO YOU / LINKS :

Pre-order BTY on iTunes

Pre-save BTY on Spotify

Sign up for Louis’ newsletter

Pre-order BTY CD Bundle

[buscandoelparaiso]

Louis' merch is the same company (at least the BTY album was) so fingers crossed that they fix it for this tour bc everybody will want merch.

yeah im worried about that too. i didnt have problems with the albums/cds, i understand that shipping merch like harry’s is probably different or more difficult and they have thousands of requests but at least reply to an email or send an update…. all this because i cant wait to get it so hurry up!!!!!!! 

[louisfeatharry]

Supporting BTY Checklist

Here are a list of activities and links to help support ‘Back To You’. Feel free to like this post and have it on-hand for the most up-to-date information on how to support BTY.

One and done:

Buy the exclusive CD bundle

Buy the song on iTunes / Google / Amazon

From the US and can’t buy the song yourself? Send me an ask, and @imlouisaf and I will be gifting an unlimited amount!

Not from the US? Get sponsored!

Buy the music video on iTunes

From the US and can’t buy the video yourself? Send me an ask, and I will be gifting a select amount!

Join the Thunderclap to be held on July 26

Join the Thunderclap to be held on July 28

Shazam the song from different devices

Per day:

Stream BTY on Spotify: a minimum of 30 seconds counts as a stream

For UK streams: only 10 streams per account will count towards the Official Chart

Free users: use this playlist

Premium users: use the Repeat One function

Stream on Deezer

Stream on Tidal

Stream the music video

Tweet your support for the song for the Billboard Trending 140

Request the song at your radio stations and keep up with radio polls:

Request on Mediabase

Resources: beccasafan, TTD, backtoyoupromotion, backtoyouradio (radio polls)

Additional resources and FAQs:

TTD’s BTY support masterpost

TTD’s music video FAQs

appreciatetommo’s BTY promo masterpost

how to count your streams towards the US/UK

This post will be updated as more ways to support BTY pop up.

[fuchsiasea]

BTY Countdown: day 1 → Louis + songwriting:

❝ Hang on a minute. That’s – I wrote on that song. These are the references that I’ve said.❞

❤ Pre-save on Spotify ❤ Pre-order on iTunes (UK) ❤ Pre-order on CD Single ❤ Subscribe to Louis’ YouTube channel ❤ Sign up for Louis’ newsletter