#CHICON 2009

[detailtilted]

NEW Enhanced Edition - CHICON 2009 - Main J2 Panel

Direct link to video. Link to YouTube channel. (14 videos available.)

My latest video is finally up. 48% of the footage came from the video AgtSpooky sent me. Her video was already on YouTube, but not properly credited to her. My other main source (41% of the video and most of the audio) is shown in my comparison screen shots below. All sources, even if I only used a few seconds' worth, are credited with links on the video description.

This is a long one at 68 minutes! As usual, there were many funny moments. There were also two separate times when Jensen went into older brother mode and helped Jared with something.

I'll be working on CHICON 2010 next, which is the next convention that I have videos from AgtSpooky for. Those videos had also found their way onto YouTube, but once again were not credited to her.

Also I want to credit @j2spntranscripts who has truly incredible video-finding skills. They've found some lesser-known clips that I hadn't run across on my own. I've referenced the videos they've found to help refine my subtitles if nothing else, and sometimes to provide a better view of the action for small portions of the video. They also have some impressive playlists on YouTube that not only collect all of those earlier con videos they've found, but also put them in order. (It's still a work in progress, but they've done a lot already!) And they're not only in the order that the panels occurred, but all of those many short video clips are sorted in the order in which those clips took place within each panel!

Before/after comparison photos...

A recap for anyone not familiar with this project…

In December 2023, I started this project to enhance old convention videos. I'm upscaling the videos and making other visual improvements, adding extra content to clarify various references, and adding good color-coded subtitles so you can better understand the sometimes-chaotic audio.

My goal is to publish the best, most complete, and most watchable versions of these older convention panels yet seen, but this is only possible thanks to the fans who captured the footage in the first place and were generous enough to share it with other fans. My video descriptions on YouTube will always credit my sources.

If you have any old convention videos you'd be willing to contribute to this project, please message me! I can also be reached at DetailTilted@gmail.com. Even if your videos are on YouTube, the original files, if you still have them, may upscale much better. If I can get them to upscale, I'd happily send the upscaled files back to you for your own collection whether I use them or not.

[ironworked]

Scrolling through another fandom's tag a while back, I encountered a few anon asks warning people of the perils of bringing up RPF/shipping to the individuals who inspire it. While I agree with the sentiment, this person didn't choose a good example to go with it: Jensen Ackles and Misha Collins.

The gist of it was that this issue caused them to stop talking and even to refuse to do events together for a long time.

Which is blatantly untrue, for one:

2009 and 2010

2011 and 2012

2013 and 2014

2015 and 2016

2017 and 2018

2019 and 2020

2021 and 2022

2023 and 2024

Here's the Masterlist compiled by @/livebloggingmydescentintomadness

Jensen's @ Misha mentions on Twitter; replies.

Misha's @ Jensen mentions on Twitter.

Instagram:

Videos:

2009 (AHBL); 2010 (ChiCon, SDCC Syfy event, ); 2011 (JIB); 2012 (JIB, ComicCon); 2013 (JIB); 2014 (JIB); 2015 (JIB); 2016 (JIB, ComicCon, compilation); 2017 (JIB, HonCon); 2018 (JIB); 2019 (JIB, Arlington); 2020 (EW photoshoot); 2021 (DenCon, gishfest); 2022 (NJCon, JIB, VanCon); 2023 (JIB, JIB again, Liverpool, Charlotte); 2024 (JIBbit, SF, Columbus, Burbank)...

[I'd add quotes but I think that's quite enough]

And secondly, why would it cause such a rift between Jensen and Misha when it didn't cause it between Jared and Jensen? I think you might have been misled by someone with an agenda...

So. Anon, you probably won't see this but I'll give you my advice anyway: if you really care about the topic, I'd find another example because this one works against you, if anything.

[berezneva12]

Chicon 2009

[lets-steal-an-archive]

Chuck [aka God] is Kripke: the lore before 11.20

Dead Central: You mentioned the Erik Kripke character, but which major character on the show has the most “you” in it?

Eric Kripke: I would say it would have been Chuck. Chuck has always been my surrogate on the show. He is a writer with a really low self-esteem and spends a lot of time working in his pajamas.

Source: Creator Eric Kripke Discusses The Essential Supernatural: On the Road with Sam and Dean Winchester https://www.dreadcentral.com/news/39978/creator-eric-kripke-discusses-the-essential-supernatural-on-the-road-with-sam-and-dean-winchester/

--

Lynn: You were essentially cast as the creator, in multiple definitions of the word. It’s weird enough that you were cast as God, but you were also cast as Kripke! When did you realize that you were symbolizing both of these iconic figures?

Rob: When I first got the part, it was Prophet!Chuck, and I knew that I was representing the writers, because it was their chance to sort of speak on episodes they’d written that they didn’t really like, like oh my god I can’t believe you had to go through that! The ghost ship episode (Red Sky At Morning) was one I think he talks about -- they were like, I’m so sorry about that! I feel like it was the writers’ chance to apologize to the fans and it’s their commentary on their own show, which I love. I mean, what other show does that? So it was his way of going, these are the characters I created, and I’ve wanted to say these things to you. But I always thought I represented more the team of writers when I was the prophet. Then when I got that final episode I was in, I didn’t even realize what was necessarily going on until I got up to Vancouver and I was shooting it and it was kinda like, you know, is this what I think it is, that I’m God?? And Kripke called me and was like yes, it is what you think it is, and this is what’s happening, but he didn’t lay it out there that you’re me specifically. Then it was while shooting that last episode, and it’s called Swan Song and it’s his final episode, his love letter to the show, taking himself out of it in this sort of very poetic kind of way, and that’s when I was really like OMG, I’m Kripke, I’ve been Kripke this whole time!

Source: Playing God and The Fangirl: Supernatural’s Chuck and Becky Get Meta (Part One) https://fangasmthebook.com/2013/08/01/playing-god-and-the-fangirl-supernaturals-chuck-and-becky-get-meta-part-one/

[detailtilted]

I agree with the people who think it's a manip.

My reasons:

1. Jared and Jensen’s chairs don’t make sense. I don't think there's room for the left half of Jared's chair -- and his long left leg -- to co-exist with the back of Jensen's chair, even if Jensen is leaned all the way back.

2. Misha’s chair doesn't make sense. His chair is a different style than Jared’s and Jensen’s. His side of the pic with the table looks like it came from an overseas con.

3. The clothes Jared and Jensen are wearing in this pic look like they’re from CHICON 2009. How do I know? Because those are the very videos I’m currently editing and I’ve spent a LOT of time staring at those clothes while trying to do color corrections. There's also this handy post that shows images of their clothes at each con: https://www.tumblr.com/littlebeelife/701285083877900288/jared-and-jensen-in-conventions-throughout-the

4. There was no J2M panel at CHICON 2009. Even if someone were to claim the J2 part of the pic is real and Misha was the only manip, I have video sources covering the entire CHICON 2009 J2 panel from their entrance to their exit. This did not happen in their panel at that con.

5. There’s no identification associated with that text, nor even any indication of what platform (if any) it was posted on. Even if it had been posted by a known person, that wouldn’t make it true.

6. You can also search for this image and there are very few results. The ones that are found have people asking questions, but nobody answering them. If this had really happened, there would have been a lot more chatter and more people corroborating the story who had been in the audience.

So as a general reminder to whoever runs across this: people can say literally anything on the internet. If someone you trust tells you something is real, that person could have been misled themselves.

Can't say I didn't enjoy looking at it, though! 😂

Reminder that this was NOT a manip

[cherie-mon-cherie]

So, I’m watching old panels before work today and a fan asks the question about how they will feel if Supernatural ends after season 5. 

11 years later it’s finally gonna happen. And now I’m crying.

[detailtilted]

NEW Enhanced Edition - CHICON 2009 - J2 Breakfast

Direct link to video. Link to YouTube channel. (13 videos available.)

My latest video is up. 82% of the footage came from the video AgtSpooky sent me. Her video was already on YouTube, but not properly credited to her. I used a few other sources that are credited in my video description.

This video won't look as good as my others, for reasons I've already explained in typically wordy fashion in another post, but I do think it's still quite an improvement versus what's previously been available on YouTube. There are, as usual, some funny moments! I hope you'll find it to be worth watching.

My next video will be the main J2 panel. This is when they first started doing completely combined panels instead of having a combination of solo and joint panels. My turnaround time on the next video will be much slower than it has been up to this point. This is both because the next video will be twice as long as most of my other videos, and also because I have some personal chaos (buying a house/selling a house/moving) that will eat into a lot of my spare time over the next month and a half.

I'll be even less active on Tumblr than usual while this is going on. Whatever spare time I manage to find will probably be dedicated toward video editing rather than social media. If you don't hear much from me over the next month or two, it's definitely not because I've lost interest in my project or the fandom.

Before/after comparison photos...

In addition to these images, there's a 32-second comparison video in this post (the same post I linked to above). The original videos had very heavy flashes which I reduced in the enhanced version, and a screen shot can't demonstrate how big of a difference that makes.

A recap for anyone not familiar with this project…

In December 2023, I started this project to enhance old convention videos. I'm upscaling the videos and making other visual improvements, adding extra content to clarify various references, and adding good color-coded subtitles so you can better understand the sometimes-chaotic audio.

My goal is to publish the best, most complete, and most watchable versions of these older convention panels yet seen, but this is only possible thanks to the fans who captured the footage in the first place and were generous enough to share it with other fans. My video descriptions on YouTube will always credit my sources.

If you have any old convention videos you'd be willing to contribute to this project, please message me! I can also be reached at DetailTilted@gmail.com. Even if your videos are on YouTube, the original files, if you still have them, may upscale much better. If I can get them to upscale, I'd happily send the upscaled files back to you for your own collection whether I use them or not.

[a-longer-love]

“Oh yeah, fucker?” My favorite is swearing Misha 😂

“When I read the first script, Castiel’s voice is blowing out windows and people are practically going deaf when he tries to speak to them. So I thought, ‘well, naturally the guy should have a gruff voice’ which of course now I regret.”

[lailaphx-is-havin-a-crisis]

Princess Jared

Princess Jared. We should promote him to Queen status, huh?

Credit to this video on YouTube [Chicago Con, 2009]

[hudine]

One of the many reason’s we love Rob.

Rob panel screen shot taken from here

[jensmisha]

wait. what’s interesting to me is the above panel happened almost exactly a month before whatever dinner misha and jensen went on that they both felt was significant enough for them to take a picture together, then commemorate it ten years later with an identical picture in the same restaurant (maybe even at the same table?)

Chicago Nov/15/2009

[archivingspn]

Destiel?

Scripts

• 2014 - 9x22 Production Draft (cut Cas’ fake heaven scene) • 2016 - 11x17 - Production Draft (Dean isn’t thinking about Cas) • 2018 -  8x02 - yellow, 9x05, 9x23 - pink, 13x08, 13x21 (eyefucking) • 2018 - 14x01 - Studio Network Draft (Sam is described as surrogate dad not an uncle) • 2020-15x18 Production Draft and One Blue Page (not reciprocated)

Episodes

• 2011-06x20 - (family) (brother) • 2013-08x17 - (family) • 2016-11x17 - (It’s a Sam parallel) • 2016-11x18 - (family) • 2016-11x23 - (friend, brother) • 2017-12x09 - (friend) • 2017-12x11 - (friend) • 2017-12x12 - (family, I love you, I love all of you, family, family) • 2019-14x12 - (friend) • 2020-15x09 - (friend) • 2020-15x18 - (I love you)

Cons

• 2009: Asylum 3 Saturday- Misha • 2009: Vancon- Misha • 2010: Vancon - Jensen • 2012: Nashcon - Jensen • 2012: Jibcon 3-Jensen solo • 2012: Jibcon 3- Misha & Jensen • 2012: Comic Con- Jensen, Edlund • 2012: SDCC Press Room - Jensen • 2012: Edmonton Comic and Entertainment Expo - Misha • 2013: ECCC - Misha • 2013: Vegascon- J2 • 2013: NJcon- Misha • 2013: SDCC Press Room - Kripke • 2013: SDCC Press Room - Carver • 2013: TorCon- Jensen meet and greet • 2013: Chicon - Misha • 2013: Burcon - Amy Gumenick • 2013: Burcon Autos- Robbie • 2014: Vegascon- J2 • 2014: Asylum 12 - Misha • 2014: Jibcon Saturday - Jensen solo • 2014: Jibcon Sunday - Jared solo • 2014: Jibcon Sunday - Jensen solo • 2014: Jibcon Sunday - Jensen & Misha • 2014: Torcon - J2 gold • 2015: Seacon- Jared • 2016: DCcon- Misha • 2015: Jibcon 6 Saturday - Jensen • 2015: Jibcon Saturday - Misha & Singer • 2016: Seacon Saturday - Sheppard • 2016: Vancon SuperWiki’s Wayward Cocktails - Wanek • 2017: Jaxcon - Jensen • 2018: SPNUK - J2M • 2018: Chicon - Alex • 2019: Jibcon Sunday - J2M • 2019: Dallascon- J2 • 2020: Twitter- #DCOnline - Richard, Misha • 2021: WonderCon - Cas’ voice actor

Interviews/Articles

• 2007: TV Guide - Kripke (three year plan) • 2007: TV Addict - Kripke (rough two seasons outlines) • 2009: Channel Ten Interview with J2M - J2M (didn’t know if his character would stay) • 2009: Chicago Tribune - Kripke • 2010: Supernatural: The Official Season 4 Companion - Kripke • 2011: Zap2it - Edlund • 2011: TV Squad - Edlund • 2011: Zap2it - Edlund • 2012: Fangasm - Jensen • 2012: IGN - Carver • 2012: SYFY Wire- Misha • 2013: Supernatural Turkey - July - Jim Micheals • 2013: The Backlot- July- Misha • 2013: TV Guide Canada - Misha • 2013: HuffPost - Misha • 2013: Daily Dot - Kennedy, Chau, Bee  • 2013: Fail-fandomanon - needs source • 2013: Larry King Now - Misha • 2013: TV Fanatic- Misha • 2014: Fangasm - Misha • 2014: New York Times - J2M (no mention) • 2014: Variety - various (no mention) • 2015: ET Online- Misha • 2016: EW - Misha (outsider yet connected to both brothers) Highfill- (close to a third brother as one gets) • 2017: EW - Dabb (family) • 2017: EW - (Closest friend, Best buds, Family) • 2017: EW - (”now it’s Mom and it’s Cas“) • 2017: Hypable - Perez • 2019: MarySue - Dabb (no romance endgame) • 2020: Variety - Dabb • 2020: EW - (probably family and/or do anything for him) • 2020: TV Guide News - J2 • 2020: Daily Dot - internet reaction to 15x18 • 2020: Buzzfeed - internet reaction to 15x18 • 2020: Polygon - internet reaction to 15x18 • 2020: TV Web - internet reaction to 15x18 • 2020: PinkNews - internet reaction to 15x18 and DLCOnline • 2020: EW - Nov 26- rouge translators • 2021: London Screenwriters’ - Kripke

Social Media

• 2012: Twitter - Sep (Misha) • 2013: Twitter - Jan (Robbie) • 2013: Twitter - Feb (Adam) • 2013: Twitter - Mar (Misha) • 2013: Twitter - Mar (Wanek) • 2013: Twitter - Mar (Glass) • 2013: Twitter - Sep (Robbie) • 2013: Twitter - Oct (Kennedy) • 2013: Twitter - Oct (Glass) • 2013: Twitter - Oct (Osric) • 2013: Twitter - Oct (Bee) • 2013: Twitter - Oct (Misha) • 2013: Twitter - Nov (Robbie) • 2014: Twitter - Mar (Wanek) • 2014: Twitter - Mar (Misha) • 2014: Twitter - Apr (Jared) • 2014: Twitter - May (Robbie) • 2014: Twitter- May (Glass) • 2014: Twitter - Nov (Jensen, Robbie) • 2015: Twitter - Jun (Smith) • 2016: Twitter - Jan (Misha) • 2016: Twitter - Apr (Parks) • 2016: Twitter - May (Armstrong) • 2016: Twitter - Jun (Fitzmartin) • 2016: Twitter - Jul (Lee Rumohr) • 2018: Twitter - Apr (Official SPN Twitter) • 2018: Twitter - Aug (Williams) • 2019: Tumblr/Twitter - Feb (Jess, MonarchMish, Davy) • 2019: Twitter - Oct - (Williams) • 2020: Twitter - Sep (Meghan, Emma, Jason, NF, Davy, Jeremy) • 2020: Twitter - Sep (DSilza) • 2020: Twitter - Nov 5 (Berens) • 2020: Twitter - Nov (narwhalltime) • 2020: Twitter -  Nov (Buchanan) • 2020: Twitter -  Nov 20 (Jay Julier) • 2020: Twitter - Nov 25-26 (Williams) • 2020: Twitter - Nov 25-26 (Misha) • 2020: Twitter - Nov 25-26 (narwhalltime) • 2020: Twitter - Dec 11-12 (Williams) • 2020: Twitter - Dec 12 (Williams)

Misc.

• 2011: Supernatural Season 6 DVD Extra- Edlund (another brother) • 2013: Season 8 DVD Extra “Angel Warrior: The Story of Castiel” - Carver (talks of DeanCas as a humorous friendship dynamic) • 2014: A Very Special Supernatural Special - Kripke, Carver, Singer, J2M2 • 2014: The Essential Supernatural [Revised and Updated Edition]: On the Road with Sam and Dean Winchester - (the book kind of infers that Cas’ bond with Dean is a flaw? And that’s pretty much the only line specifically dedicated to it in there.) • 2016: Warner Brothers Market Research • 2018: Hot Topic - Dean Cas Shirt

[awarejust]

Panty glimpses

#PANTY GLIMPSES SERIES#

#PANTY GLIMPSES TV#

When anime and manga were translated into English by U.S. It is about "servicing" the fan – giving the fans "exactly what they want." Fan service can also refer (by means of text, symbol, image, sound) to other stories that contain visual elements. The term originated in Japanese in the anime and manga fandom, but has been used in other languages and media.

#PANTY GLIMPSES SERIES#

While SAXX underwear are designed for comfort with a patented BallPark™ Pouch construction and technical construction to reduce friction, fandom created the lore that they were designed for very well-endowed people, in keeping with the legend of the Padacock.Wikipe-tan, a personification of Wikipedia, wearing a swimsuit, an example of typical "fan service".įan service ( ファンサービス, fan sābisu), fanservice or service cut ( サービスカット, sābisu katto), is material in a work of fiction or in a fictional series that is intentionally added to please the audience, often sexual in nature, such as nudity. It even resulted in tweets from the company suggesting a modelling gig! When you're a tall guy like Jared, just lifting your arms up can reveal your undies! And Jared has revealed on multiple occasions the waistband of his preferred brand - SAXX.

Photos of Jared and his SAXX undies on Tumblr.

Jared is asked about SAXX underwear and how long.

#PANTY GLIMPSES TV#

"Grundies" is rhyming slang for undies (Reg Grundys=undies Reg Grundy was a famous Aussie TV producer) They're far too small - they're like a thong. "Sixteen? 18? I have no idea what size I am - we do small, medium and large. "I had to go buy clean underwear with the crazy Australian sizes that I didn't understand," he told AAP in Sydney. As a result his first stop when he arrived in Sydney was to pick up some new underpants, but for a guy who spends most of his time battling the paranormal on the Network Ten hit show Supernatural as Sam Winchester, buying grundies proved quite a challenge. The 25-year-old Hollywood actor arrived eight hours late in the country without his bags which had been misplaced en route, along with all of his clothes. Supernatural pin-up boy Jared Padalecki is feeling a little snug in the pants. Jared was a last minute replacement for Hayden Panettiere at Supanova Sydney 2008, at the tail end of the Writers Guild of America Strike "Something Strange is going on with Jared Padalecki's Underwear!" That was the new headline when Jared arrived in Australia in June 2008. Tweets between SAXX Underwear and Jared in August 2014

Misha's philosophy on underwear at Salute to Supernatural Minneapolis 2016.

On return from Europe on April 28, Misha posted a picture of himself with the underwear.īOXERS OR BRIEFS AND ORANGE UNDIES FOR LUCK explaining the underwear prank by cim4clam

Misha Collins & his undies by Saboteur73.

planning the underwear prank at the Welcome party, Misha Collins & the orange underwear Part 1 & Part 2, Misha Collins crashing the J2 panel by stagie

The Orange Undie Prank by rogueslayer452.

The underwear prank: from ChiCon 2009 to Jus In Bello by katwoman76.

One day he'd spilled soup on his pants and had to change and the only spare briefs he had were the pumpkin colored ones - a gift from a fan! The Wardrobe Department had later laundered them and put them in Richard's trailer by mistake.īefore the Jus In Bello Italy 2010 in April 2010, Richard encouraged fans to "show Misha how much you care by bringing him a pair of men's bikini brief underwear" He thinks its a prank by Jared and Jensen, but finds out that they were a Misha's. told the story of finding a pair of pumpkin colored briefs in his trailer. At Salute to Supernatural Chicago 2009, Richard Speight Jr.

[anotherneworld]

I’ll just say that the only off-putting convention interaction I’ve ever had at a con was with Mr. Collins, and I don’t ship ~that~ and we didn’t even talk about much of anything. He didn’t look at me, asked me what my shirt was (it was a Josh Ritter “Temptation of Adam” shirt), then proceeded to check all the way out during my answer and it wasn’t bad or necessarily rude, just jarring, and so very different from the interactions I’ve had with other guests. This was at ChiCon in 2011, and the interaction I’d had with him in 2009 at VanCon was very pleasant, so it felt strange. I honestly can’t imagine what it must be like to go to cons now; these men are probably so fucking tired of this shit. Where Jensen has gotten better at cons as the years have gone on (holy smokes, Asylum 1 we were all dying of awkwardness), I’ve watched Misha grow consistently worse. 

Richard Speight, Jim Beaver, AJ Buckley, Travis Wester, and Aldis Hodge were the best interactions I’ve had, in case you’re wondering. The stuff with J2 always goes by so fast, and my main goal in life is to not be in anybody’s way at any time, so I can barely manage to say hi. Asylum 3, the first UK convention Jared was able to attend, was very poorly mismanaged, and the organizers were extremely strict about photo ops and militant towards those of us waiting that we were Not to touch the actors, and to get out of there as quickly as possible. For someone with pretty intense social anxiety, meeting someone for whom I had a lot of admiration for the first time in such a circumstance was very stressful. I was the first of our group to get my photo done with Jared; he was seated and we were to stand next to him and Not Touch Him. I think we said, hi, we took the pic, and I booked it. My friends behind me in line told me later that he kind of stared after me looking a little upset, and this haunts me. The only thing that soothes me is that during autos, they had Jared & Misha seated across the ballroom from one another, and Misha threw a piece of gum to Jared across the space right as I reached Jared’s table, prompting Jared to yell back “Did you lick it? Is it dirty?!” before popping it into his mouth, turning to me with a giant smile and saying “Sorry.” Bless.

Anyway, I haven’t been to a con since 2011, and I thought about going to one at the end of the show to bookmark that period in my life, but lollllllllllll I don’t have that kind of money (seriously, those of you who go to multiple cons a year and get MULTIPLE PHOTO OPs???? WHERE is this $$$$$ coming from???? We were bitching when silver tickets cost us $365. You fascinate me.) and I don’t think I could deal with the second-hand embarrassment of sitting through panels again. I can’t even watch the youtube videos. 

I think Jared doing this RI con is a very interesting development, because maybe they’ll start doing non-CE cons in different parts of the country and they’ll come back my way some day so I can tell them how much their work meant/means to me without having to fork over 2 months salary to do so.

[masterofd1saster]

CJ current events Labor Day weekend

Eight men are facing charges in Rhode Island for allegedly sexually assaulting a 16-year-old unconscious girl at a party — after the girl’s mother found footage of the attack on Facebook and shared it with detectives, according to a report.

The teen told detectives in Providence she awoke in an apartment on Dec. 20 with vaginal pain and cuts on her thighs***

She told police she could remember being naked in a bathroom shower, with roughly 15 men laughing at her while possibly taking photos before she recalled being taken into a bedroom. However, she was unconscious during the alleged assault.***  https://nypost.com/2020/09/02/eight-charged-with-sexually-assaulting-unconscious-teen/ 

She promptly went to the police, but she could provide only some of their first names.  The men are Carlos Vasquez, Malcom Baptista, Jose Vargas, Luis Luna, Erving Keith Colon, Richard Chester, Carlos Chicon, and Luis Cabrera.  All but Chester are from Providence.  They range in age from 19 to 25.

Sex with an incapacitated person in these circumstances is First degree sexual assault.  11 R.I. Gen. Laws Ann. § 11-37-2 (2020).  The penalty is in § 11-37-3.  You can look it up in Westlaw.  

Shocking - the age of consent there is 14.  § 11-37-8.1. 

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The true sign of a sociopath is finding a way to blame society for one’s crimes

Aaron Coleman is the unopposed candidate for Kansas's 37th District in the state house of representatives.  He is only 19, but he has an impressive history of abusing females.  When the most recent abuse became public, he released a statement at

https://twitter.com/Aaron4KS37/status/1302638089408589824/photo/1

that included

While it is true I was abusive to my ex-girlfriend, I do not agree with the characterization****

I believe if we had more early childhood education funding, and taught what healthy interpersonal relationships look like, my ex and I would have been less toxic to each other. Additionally, we must pass Medicaid for All so people can receive counseling and mental health support based on need for treatment and not ability to pay. I believe with some counseling, my ex and I would have had more self-respect and would have treated each other better.

The most recent incident of abuse occurred he asked his girlfriend to participate in a threesome, she declined, and it resulted in domestic violence.  That Mr Coleman is able to blame not just the victim but society as a whole demonstrates the depth of his sociopathy.

His history includes, but is not limited to, sextorting a middle school girl when he was 14.  Editorial. (Aug. 13, 2020). Kansas City Star. 

https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article244930027.html

; Valenti, J.  (Aug. 24, 2020).  The Misogyny Problem.

https://gen.medium.com/the-lefts-misogyny-problem-3fc37eea6e0e

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In other skeevy perv news,

A Virginia Beach lawyer is facing state bar accusations that he tried to persuade a jailed client to engage in a three-way sexual relationship with him and another client once the jailed woman was set free.

The misconduct allegations were certified last month against attorney Scott A. Lehman by a Virginia State Bar subcommittee. https://news.yahoo.com/virginia-beach-lawyer-accused-trying-223100267.html 

Lehman graduated from Regent University School of Law.  He’s been Virginia lawyer since 2009.

He allegedly met the woman on a sugar daddies website.

When the woman was jailed in June 2019 on a probation violation charge, she reached out to Lehman for help, the document said.

Two months later, she approached sheriff’s officers and told them he was representing her for free, with the understanding she’d engage in a sexual relationship with him once she was out of jail. She also mentioned she’d had sexual conversations with Lehman through the jail’s video visitation system.***

Officers viewed the videotaped conversations and noticed a pattern of Lehman trying to cultivate a three-way relationship among himself, the jailed client and another woman he was representing on drunken driving and resisting arrest charges, the document said.

The other woman was awaiting trial and free on bond. Lehman also represented her in some civil court matters, including a complaint from Child Protective Services.***

The other woman was present during some conversations. Lehman could be seen fondling her over her clothes on two occasions, the document said. He called the incarcerated woman various nicknames, including “jail kitty,” and put money in her inmate account.  https://www.dailypress.com/news/crime/vp-nw-attorney-behavior-20200904-roytxm5kpbhofgn4o5bdnfzm2y-story.html

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Be very careful when buying anything on Craigslist/Letgo etc.

Joseph and Jossline Roland of Aurora, Colorado responded to an ad for a Toyota.  The seller, 18-year-old Kyree Brown, met them at Southlands Mall on Aug. 14.  The Rolands didn’t know it, but the car had been stolen a few days earlier.

When they met, Brown told them he had brought the wrong title and "convinced them to follow him to an apartment on East Cornell Circle near South Parker Road.”  When they arrived, he attempted to rob them at gunpoint.

He shot both Mr & Mrs Roland.  They both died at the hospital.  They leave behind five children.

Brown posted the car for sale on the app again — under the user name Jessica Harlan. ***

Brown was arrested on Aug. 27, after a chase which ended near 29th Avenue and Central Park Boulevard in Denver.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/09/01/joseph-jossline-roland-killed-responding-to-used-car-ad-gofundme-help-children/

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Former congressional candidate--

Detectives from the Montgomery County Department of Police – Special Victims Investigations Division (SVID) have arrested and charged Maxwell Alexander Bero, age 30, of Gate Rail Road in Clarskburg, with offenses related to his inappropriate sexual contact with a fourteen-year-old female.  The offenses occurred from August 2014 to June 2015, when the female victim was an eighth-grade student and Bero was her teacher at the Col. E. Brooke Lee Middle School in Silver Spring.  The sexual interactions occurred after school hours on school property.

On July 28, 2020, SVID detectives began an investigation into allegations of sexual abuse of the (now 19-year-old) victim by Bero.  Detectives learned that during the 2014-2015 school year, Bero engaged in inappropriate sexual contact and exchanged inappropriate sexual materials and messages with the juvenile victim/student.*** https://www.mymcpnews.com/2020/08/26/school-teacher-arrested-for-inappropriate-sexual-contact-with-student-possibility-of-additional-victims-a-concern/

He had said he was qualified for office because

For the past 8 years, I’ve taught U.S. History and American Government to students of all levels in some of the most struggling areas of Montgomery County.*** As a teacher and coach, I’m used to figuring out ways to motivate and inspire others, and develop creative solutions to problems, and I’m prepared to do the same in Washington. https://bethesdamagazine.com/2020-primary-voters-guide/u-s-congress-district-6-democrats/ 

To be fair, he didn’t say exactly what he inspired female student to do....

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Jacob Blake, the black man who was shot by a white cop in Kenosha, Wisc., last month, surfaced Friday for the first time since he was injured — to plead not guilty to previous criminal charges filed against him in July.

Blake, 29, donning a blue button-down shirt and yellow tie, entered his plea by video from his hospital bed at Wisconsin’s Froedtert Hospital.***

Trial was set for Nov. 9.

The charges against Mr Blake allege that he broke into a woman’s home and sexually assaulted her on May 3.

The alleged victim told cops she has known him for eight years and claims that he physically assaults her “around twice a year when he drinks heavily.”***  https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/this-is-why-jacob-blake-had-a-warrant-out-for-his-arrest/

His docket is available at https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2020CF000736&countyNo=30&index=0&mode=details

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Stay classy, Philly.

Andre Michael Felts, aka “Dre” and “Plug,” 32, and Kevin Michael Francis, aka “Kev,” 60, were each charged with one count of conspiracy to sex traffic a minor and four counts of sex trafficking a minor.  Ryan Keel, 39, was charged with conspiracy to sex traffic a minor.

The indictment alleges that Felts ran a prostitution ring that recruited and enticed young females, including minors, to engage in commercial sex acts; harbored the victims at various residences for that purpose; transported and provided the victims to males who purchased the commercial sex acts; and collected a portion of the proceeds.*** https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/philadelphia-men-charged-child-sex-trafficking

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Should get LWOP for misspelling “boys.”

The Justice Department [Friday, September 4, 2020] announced a federal criminal complaint charging Michael Robert Solomon, 30, and Benjamin Ryan Teeter, 22, with conspiring and attempting to provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization (Hamas).***

“Michael Solomon and Benjamin Teeter proclaim themselves to be members of the Boogaloo Bois, a group that espouses a violent ideology and an objective to overthrow the government.  The defendants believed their anti-U.S. government views aligned with those of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization, and actively developed plans to carry out violence in Minnesota and elsewhere,” said U.S. Attorney Erica H. MacDonald.  ***

On July 30, Solomon and Teeter delivered to the individual they believed to be a senior member of Hamas five suppressors and expressed their desire to manufacture additional suppressors and fully-automatic weapons for Hamas.  Solomon and Teeter later negotiated with the individual a price of $1,800 for five additional suppressors.  Solomon and Teeter also delivered to the individual a “drop in auto sear” (“DIAS”), a part designed and intended for use in converting a weapon to shoot automatically.  Solomon and Teeter believed the suppressors and the DIAS would be used by Hamas overseas to attack Israeli and U.S soldiers.***  https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-self-described-boogaloo-bois-charged-attempting-provide-material-support-hamas

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Scraping the Courts

Uncensored government records are tough to get and our local agencies make it no easier. Unlike the Federal Government, where they’ve been releasing useful information for years, the City of Austin just got into the Open Data game.

At the end of 2011, they revamped their site and included their own online public information section, data.austintexas.gov. There are little quotes plastered on it about being dedicated to “Open Government” and “transparency, efficiency, and collaboration.”

The site holds totally random records from various city agencies. You can find stuff like a restaurant inspection scores database, a chart of popular crimes, a list of places where tickets were written, and even a map of “declared dangerous dogs.”

I looked for Austin Police Department arrest data and found it. I was surprised. But when I actually browsed the records, I saw they left out everything useful – there were no details about who was arrested, so I couldn’t analyze it. I dug further and saw the APD also has some transparency tools on their website. One called CrimeViewer sounded like something I’d want to use, but it turned out to be pretty lame. This tool just shows a map with little icons drawn on it that represent where crimes happened and is even less useful for picking apart.

What about the courts? I know that court records are supposed to be public information, but does the County publish them freely? No. The Open Data website was City-only and the County seemed to be even further behind using the internet.

Neither the City or the County published useful information that someone could actually use to see where people are arrested, who they are, and what happens to them once they’re booked. I filed some open records requests with the City and the County to find out how many people were arrested in the past year and a half and how often they got bailed out. Technically, they had ten days to either give me access to the information or to tell me why they couldn’t. (Twenty if the request took a lot of programming, which mine didn’t.) But almost two months later, after nagging e-mails and calls, and still no arrest records, I decided to take matters into my own hands.

I found something called the APD Incident Reports Database where you enter a date and it prints out the police reports filed. I figured out that I could write a program to automatically download all the police reports for the past year and a half, the furthest back they allow, and enter them into a database. Compared to the arrest information on the City’s Open Data website, this information was totally raw and unfiltered.

Caption: APD arrests between May 2011 and Nov 2012. These arrests were gathered from the APD Incident Database, geocoded, and plotted here. The larger the circle, the more arrests happened at that address. The colors represent different races/ethnicities being arrested — green: Hispanic, red: White, blue: Black.

I found something similar on the Travis County Clerk’s website that I could use – a misdemeanor court search tool. I wrote a computer program that went through them, by offense date, and collected everything I could. Within a few hours I’d downloaded over six years of criminal history.

The City’s Open Data turned out to be useless. Travis County made it so you couldn’t get court case info without serious computer skills. Going through normal channels (public information officers) was taking forever. But this didn’t stop me from being able to hack together a big-picture view of how people move through our local criminal processing machine from arrest to sentencing.

Step One: Arrest

This is where it all begins and it doesn’t work the same for everyone. Between May 2011 and November 2012, I logged 75,692 arrests. This was every arrest reported by the APD in the past year and a half.

According to the city’s eventual response to my open records request, the Black arrest rate during this time span was over four times higher than Whites’ and almost three times higher than Hispanics’. Whatever the reason, the Austin Police Department was arresting Blacks way more often than anyone else.

When I built a crime map using the gathered APD data, a few areas stood out: Downtown, grocery stores, and the 12^th^ and Chicon corner.

Downtown dominated the map, in general. About 11% of all APD arrests happened around 6^th^ Street. Drinking type-crimes ruled. Public intoxication was the number-one single charge. Warrant arrests were the second most common followed by DWI, sitting/lying on sidewalk, urinating in public, possession of marijuana, and violating misc. city ordinances. As a city, we’re spending a shit load of money to let all these people get fucked up downtown. Is it worth it?

Grocery stores turned out to be a huge generator of arrests. The single address with the most arrests was a Wal-Mart Supercenter on Norwood Park Blvd., just northeast of where I-35 and 183 meet. Over 900 people were arrested at this store alone. The Riverside HEB was also on the top-five list of arrest addresses. Mostly everyone was arrested for theft and a lot of them got possession charges tacked on. But we can’t talk about possession arrests without mentioning our next spot on the map.

The few blocks surrounding 12^th^ and Chicon are notorious for prostitution, drugs, and violence, but the arrest reality shows more of a disaster-type situation. Police are arresting people for anything possible and they’re arresting mostly Blacks. You can get a sense of activity on the corner by reading through the list of common charges: possession of drug paraphernalia, warrant, possession of marijuana, possession of a controlled substance or narcotic, violation of a city ordinance, pedestrian in the roadway, driving while license invalid, blasting car stereos, and drinking in public. The police made 902 arrests (again, mostly Black) in the 18 months of Incident Reports, and none of them seem to be helping.

Over half of these arrests were of the same person more than once. One guy got arrested 19 times in those 18 months – all on that block. What the hell is going on in a system where people are being arrested over and over, and then getting busted in the exact same place again? People have been calling for stricter sentences for violent crimes in this area, but if you actually look at what people are being arrested for, it’s nonviolent crimes.

It’s not pretty when you’re driving by randomly and see two thugs slugging it out in the middle of the street and homeless-looking folks watching from the sidewalks. But if low-level arrests haven’t been the solution here in the past, why would we think more would be the answer of the future?

Policies like throwing more time at people arrested in these areas are going to hurt more minorities, and stack the odds of being arrested against them even more. It’s not like Whites aren’t buying cocaine, heroin, and weed. They’re just not doing it on 12^th^ and Chicon and they’re not getting caught, booked, and jailed as often for it.

Step Two: Booking and Pre-Trial Release

Once you’re arrested, you’re brought down to the jail and you sit there. You have three options for getting out. Sometimes a cash bond will be set – this is the amount of money you need to pay as collateral for you showing up to court. If you show up, you’ll get your money back. If you don’t, they keep it and put out a warrant for your arrest. You can also pay a bondsman to bail you out. This is called a surety bond. The bondsman will pay your cash bond for you, but will charge you a percent of it. If you don’t show up, they will come after you because it’s their money at stake. But in Travis County, personal bonds, where your word is your collateral, are by far the most common.

Travis County Pretrial Services is in charge of overseeing the whole process of letting people out of jail before their trials (called pretrial release, bonding/bailed out, etc.). They publish a little information on their website about how often people are screened and granted a personal bond. But it’s useless to me because it’s not broken down at all.

Luckily the Travis County Clerk’s Misdemeanor Court database holds bond information. According to this data, White defendants got any form of bond the most often (65% of the time) followed by Hispanics (63%) and Blacks (56%).

So minority defendants, especially Black ones, don’t get a pretrial release as often as Whites. But why is this? Pretrial Release is an inexact science. Basically a lot of guesswork goes into figuring out whether or not a defendant will show up for their court date. The County never really knows if someone is going to jump bond, so they look at things like prior criminal history as an indicator.

The APD arrest data shows that minorities, Blacks especially, are arrested way more often than Whites. If prior record is a major deciding factor of whether or not someone gets a pretrial release, it makes sense that Blacks get out the least. Not only is jailing someone before their trial basically punishment of the innocent, but this also has a huge impact down the line. People who get out of jail before their court dates get better case outcomes.

Visualization: Average Sentence length by Crime & Race

This chart is based on information downloaded from the Travis County Misdemeanor Court’s case search tool. The bars represent how much time, on average, someone from each race was sentenced for each crime. The averages were calculated for all cases with offense dates starting on January 1, 2006 through December 31, 2011. Active cases weren’t included here. Click on the dates below to see a breakdown for that particular year.

2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2006-2011

Step Three: Sentencing

Sentencing is the symbol of our entire system. We’re all technically equals, so we should see similar sentences. This isn’t the case, though. When I tallied up the jail time averages by race and ethnicity, Blacks and Hispanics got more time in jail, overall, between 2006 and 2012.

In the 202,446 misdemeanor cases I’d downloaded from the court’s website, Whites got an average sentence of 15.2 days, Hispanics got 22.1, and Blacks got 21.4. My initial thought was “are judges just sentencing unfairly?”

These numbers included all punishments, jail or not. In other words, if one group got more probation/dismissals instead of jail than other groups, then that group would have a lower average sentence length. When I accounted only for cases where jail time was handed out, the differences evened out and all groups got almost exactly the same punishments.

This confused me, so I contacted as many law firms as I could for answers. What was the cause of this racial disparity? What am I overlooking? Nobody really wanted to talk about these questions publicly, but I did manage to find a few who would, as long as I kept their names anonymous.

These lawyers didn’t think race was a factor in sentencing. They thought this for a couple reasons, one being their personal experience. They just didn’t see judges sentencing based on race. The second reason being that at this low of a level in the courts, the cases mostly end in an agreement between the defense and the prosecution. The judge just signs off on agreements and pushes cases along.

In my experience, this is how most minor crimes go down in court. When I was in trouble, I showed up to my date and found a room packed full of other people who’d done even dumber stuff than I did. I talked to the prosecutor, who’d probably had five seconds to look through my case. She offered me a lesser charge, a small fine, and a few months of probation. She explained that while the judge technically could sentence me more, most of the time he just OKs the agreements … just be respectful. She was right. The judge gave me a lecture and signed off on our little agreement. I watched that same thing happen to fifty people before me.

I don’t know why the prosecutor chose to deal with me in the way she did. I mean, logically, it makes no sense to “throw the book” at someone with little criminal history, but her reasoning was totally in the dark. Even if I wanted to find out how she came up with the fine and probation, there’d be no way for me to do it.

I analyzed all the misdemeanor cases by outcome and saw that the lawyers were right. The largest group of cases ended in a “no contest” plea bargain. This is where the defendant agrees to a punishment without actually admitting guilt. This protects him or her from getting sued, but fucks the person’s life in almost exactly the same way as a guilty plea. The second most common outcome was dismissal. A lot of them were dismissed “pending further investigation” or “in the interest of justice,” but the reasons behind these identifiers are vague at best.

A lot of cases were “12:45’d” which, after some digging, turns out to be a weird technicality for people who are charged with multiple crimes. Let’s say I was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana and for evading the police. I could get one of them dropped by admitting guilt to it and having that guilt considered in the sentencing of the other charge.

Deferral was the third most popular outcome. These are usually an agreement by the prosecution and defense and usually involve doing rehab or taking classes. Probation, where you don’t go to jail as long as you stay out of trouble for a year or two, was the next most common case outcome. These seem better on the surface, but probation is usually time-consuming and very expensive. According to a lawyer friend, a lot of people prefer to do some time and have it be over with than spend the next few years paying huge fines and jumping through hoops.

Broken down by race and ethnicity, Black cases were most likely (48%) to end in jail or a fine. Hispanic cases ended in a punishment like this 42% of the time compared to Whites’ 35%. Blacks and Hispanics were both 6% less likely to get their cases dismissed than Whites. Deferral programs were given to White defendants between one and two percent more often than Blacks and Hispanics.

When I first collected the misdemeanor case data, I only collected information on closed cases. That worked well for all outcomes except for probation, where a case could still be open if someone jumped bail. So I went back to get all of the cases, closed or open, and noticed that a lot of the racial and ethnic fields in the data had been changed on the Travis County Clerk’s site. Cases where someone had been identified as Hispanic were suddenly changed to “Not-Specified.” I’m not sure why this is, but it screwed up my confidence in analyzing the probation ratios.

Either way, minorities are still getting shittier case outcomes. I’d love to dig further into why, but unfortunately there’s not a lot of paperwork to follow beyond this. If the judge isn’t influencing most of the cases, then it must be a combination of the prosecutor and defense. And while the judge is held to a lot of scrutiny, the prosecutor is not. In cases like this, there are hardly any details to follow.

Sometimes I wonder what would’ve happened if I’d shown up to my court date and called the prosecutor a piece of shit. Would I have ended up with a worse punishment just for being rude? Maybe she would’ve flat out refused to deal with me, told the judge what I did, and let him fuck me over. Is being polite an integral part of the justice system? If these are possibilities, then what’s stopping prosecutors from playing “hardball” with minorities or people they don’t like, maybe without even realizing it?

Caption: The Austin Police Department headquarters on East 8th Street. We made sure the photographer looked as suspicious as possible when he took this nighttime photo.

Race, Crime, and Information

The lawyers I talked to believed that poverty was a major player in the disparities here. According to a Health and Human Services study from 2011, 23% of both Blacks and Hispanics lived in poverty. Only 9% of Whites did. It was tempting to label this the cause of our racial and ethnic disparities, but then there’s the case of Asians who have a 14% poverty rate, but have an extremely low arrest rate and better case outcomes.

When I was writing this article, I’d talk about it with friends and coworkers. A lot of them had the same, fair questions. Are minorities committing more crime? Why? Or are police just picking on them?

Ever since men picked up criminal skulls and measured them for links to antisocial behavior, we’ve argued over why certain groups have different crime rates. And even though we laugh about bullshit like Phrenology now, over a hundred years later the same questions still haven’t been answered.

Research starting in the ‘60s focused on discovering what about minority groups caused crime. Early ideas focused on things like IQ and temperament, but these were thrown out. There was no evidence for that. Theories about inherent racial differences fell flat, too. Race – based mostly on skin tone – is a fucking awful indicator of almost anything. Any anthropologist will tell you that there’s as much if not more variation within races as there is between. Ideas about racial groups accepting violence weren’t consistent with findings that people from all races and social statuses tend to feel the same way about violence and crime. Nobody wants to be assaulted or robbed.

At the same time, researchers trying to find evidence for system-wide discrimination at the sentencing level also couldn’t find anything. The “No Discrimination Theory” is still in tact – there is no evidence of directly racial bias in our courts. But this doesn’t address the influence of indirectly racial factors like socioeconomic status or broken families (possibly due to the criminal justice system itself).

Overall, a lot of research is still needed to find the reasons why minorities get arrested and imprisoned so often. If there’s anything I’ve seen from just our local criminal justice system, it’s that every new bit of information brings up as many questions as it does answers.

While researching this article, I’ve seen minorities arrested more than Whites, minorities fighting cases from jail more often, minorities getting worse case outcomes and worse average punishments. I’ve been able to uncover how the system treats people, but not the reasons why. There are a lot hidden layers in the criminal justice system and many decisions made at each level. Beyond what I’ve dug up here, there doesn’t seem to be much of a paper trail to answer these questions further.

Figuring out how minority groups do in the criminal justice system has been the major question in criminology and sociology of the past 50 years. If our local government was serious about getting the important information out to us, they’d have released this arrest and court data long ago. It’s not like it would take a lot of work to do – the information already exists in an easy-to-publish format. I’ve already grabbed it.

Maybe next time they revamp their sites and throw around big ideas about openness and transparency, they could actually put work into making their bureaucracy more “open” and “transparent.” And not just with talk. I mean with actual uncensored data. That would show they give a fuck. Until that happens, all we get are some watered down lists, a ton of filler, and a bunch of bullshit quotes.

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