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butwhatifidothis · 3 years

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Do you personally believe that the war was started with good intentions? (I'm asking this to several blogs and wish to see opinions)

Ahhh, now that's a toughie.

It depends heavily on how sincere you believe Edelgard is with what she says she wants to do. If you genuinely believe that Edelgard genuinely believed war was the best - and only - way to achieve a better quality of life for those who are overlooked, weak, and/or born on the lower rung (among the myriad of other descriptors for those under privileged), then, well, yes, the war in your view would have been started with good intentions.

Me personally though? I just don't think so, really. imo there's just too many things about the war, what it ultimately resulted in, and the things brought up by CF's endings that are never said to be resolved - with Byleth, who is supposed to bring out the best of the routes' potential outcomes, being present at that - for me to honestly believe it was started with good intentions.

Edelgard states that the Kingdom and Alliance ought to be reunited back under Adrestia despite them being two independent nations with long-standing cultures separate from Adrestia (which are forgotten after the war according to CF's ending narration),

she mentions nothing of the starvation of Adrestia's citizens due to her war (you have to recruit and then talk to Ashe to find this out) (this would be fine - well, not really fine, but at least more acceptable - if, again, she hadn't been the one causing this starvation through her war),

she puts the people in direct danger in three out of four routes,

she continues her war despite initiating it with the stated goal of only taking down the Church but continuing it after she's disbanded the Church,

she lies about the Church dropping a bomb on Arianrhod to her allies in order to hide TWS' actions from them - people who pose a far more direct and larger threat to the people of Fodlan than the Church ever has, and whom she knows have already caused immense harm to her citizens in particular (Remire)

FEH mentions her not having any solid political reforms even after the war is finished which shows how little thought she put into her plans (not having an idea of what to do would be fine/more acceptable, if she hadn't started war certain that her way was the best for Fodlan. She can't say that and then also not be ready to implement some form of government without at best being wholly irresponsible),

the entire basis of the little political structure she outwardly describes would only further help the strong and do nothing for the weak (meritocracy will only elevate those with access to the means of elevation and even then is based entirely on what Edelgard views as valuable),

the people having to be spied on by Hubert constantly due to the amount of rebellions and risings that happen throughout her reign (Dorothea's paired ending with Hubert),

And with that last point mentioning endings, a large amount of CF's endings showcase that Fodlan harbors many of the traits Edelgard supposedly instigated the war for:

undue inheritance granted by birth (Sylvain and Lorenz each have an ending showcasing this to be true),

nobles holding ownership of land,

the loss of choice regarding political standing (Bernadetta being forced to take on House Varley's head position in at least two endings),

one person holding amalgamated power that wasn't rightfully theirs to begin with and that they have by forcefully taking power from others (Leicester and Faerghus being conquered, nobles being stripped of long-held power immediately after her coronation),

censorship of history being present after the war (Dorothea's paired ending with Edelgard, as well as propaganda being deployed even within the ENG ver. of the game, shown by Hubert outright saying that Edelgard hium and Byleth should "control the flow of [this] information")

With all this in mind, I can't honestly say I believe Edelgard had good intentions when starting the war. Every metric that would lean to that idea - keeping the people safe, wanting to elevate the less privileged, wanting to instate legislations that she has put ample thought in that she believes will help the people eventually, throwing away corrupt practices she perceived were being conducted by those she strove to overthrow - all don't happen. Even DLC bringing in Constance and giving Edelgard some sort of idea of what to do in one area of politics isn't stated to have done anything in the ending the support is attached to.

The best I can say for Edelgard's intentions is that she wants for humans to rely on their own strength to become strong, but even that idea is tainted by her continuation of that idea being to strip away support pillars many people rely on to get through life because they are based on a divine presence, not a human one. It means that Nabateans are not allowed to be present in Fodlan - or at the absolute minimum, allowed to hold any form of power - in her mind, because they "lack humanity." It means that the religious are weak-willed and can't survive on their own. It means that they are not allowed in her Empire, as shown by all four routes expelling them in some way (even CF, when she says before she initiates the war that Rhea as well as the servants of the Goddess must be killed in walking her path).

Like... to expand on one of the examples, Dimitri and Claude do not start the war, they have no idea that the implementation of political reforms must be made in the aftermath of war must be made, and yet their solo endings, while still vague on the exact details, give us an idea of how they're going about actually implementing the changes they want to do, with these changes being said to have a visible, positive impact on the people.

Dimitri installs a participatory government that allows for the common people to have a say in politics in order to have their voices and concerns heard directly from them as well as improving foreign relations in general, and Claude installs new trade routes between Fodlan and Almyra and sends forth Almyran reinforcements to assist in Fodlan's skirmishes with Imperial loyalists in order to foster better relations between the two nations. They are very simple explanations for how they're ruling and how they're accomplishing their goals, but they're a starting point. We have some clue as to how they get from Point A to Point B, and we see that they have a very clear, very directly positive result.

Edelgard? The one who started the war? Who started it with the presumption that she knew how best to rule it? Who knew that she needed to rule and implement changes in the aftermath of war ahead of time? She simply "reformed the class system." No how's, not even a simple one, she simply - supposedly - does it. And again, FEH (as well as some supports, like Ferdinand's) shows that she hasn't thought this through, that that part of ruling wasn't a priority for her when she started the war.

To me personally, that's not a sign of someone with good intentions. It's another sign that she mostly started the war in order to get back what she thought was rightfully hers, which was rulership of Fodlan under Adrestia's banner, with little care as to the outcome of her actions in getting that apparent birthright. None of the above results of her actions contradict this idea whatsoever, and many in fact bolster it (only she may decide who is worthy of promotion, only she may decide what the people are allowed to know of history, only under her watch may religion be allowed).

Now, does the setup of her having this intention make sense? Definitely, yeah. Being told by the one family member you have left of this supposed grand birthright that belongs to you and your country and how this evil race of godly beings is stealing it away from you and you must fight to get it back - after you've experienced the horrific lost of every single other family member you know and love to torture you were forced to witness and after you yourself were horrifically tortured and after you've come to the realization during the torture that the Goddess everyone loves and worships didn't help you - and with the torture happening to you in the first place (again, according to your one family member) because other people that aren't you and your family wanted power that rightfully belonged to you and your family....... uh, yeah, that can make more than a few people go a little extreme in their grabs for power. In that regard Edelgard is extremely sympathetic and understandable... just not good.

Again though, this is me personally! I'm not gonna sit here and say that seeing her intentions as good is an invalid view of Edelgard or anything. Hope I answered your question!

#anti edelgard #anti-edelgard #edelgard discourse #edelgard critical #just to be safe #was bout to take a nap and saw this ask lol #thought it was interestin' but imma take that nap #sorry for the long af answer lmao

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lochnessies · 3 years

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This is the anon who mentioned the Lysithea fanfic in an ask:

I saw a comment saying they are interested in how the story ends and asking for its title. It was one of the earliest FE3H stories posted on lofter (it was late 2019) so I will have to look through the hundreds of bookmarks with the 3H tag I have saved the last two years to find it, but if you guys are interested, I can ask the author whether I could translate their work into English and post it on AO3 (because honestly it was really hilarious and had some brilliant ideas). Fair bit of a warning though, many fanfics on these Chinese sites were taken down in March 2020 during the "Great Purging of the Chinese Internet" due to a political reason (for those interested, google “the Xiao Zhan Incident”) but this is a basic outline of that story based on my memory of it:

Enbarr got bombed by the Agarthans using the Javelins of Light half-way through. It was a really unique and new idea to me at the time so I still remember the story so vividly after two years, though I don't recall the author ever explaining why the Agarthans could use the javelins of light for so many times. Because now that Rhea had been killed, the Agarthans could set their goal to eliminating all of the Nabatean influence including the Empire, a nation founded by Seiros and her lover where the royal bloodline was descended from the Nabateans. In that story the Empire was one of the Agarthans' prime targets and they actually tried to reach out to the Kingdom royals first, but it ended with Pan defecting and Loog allying his country with the Church. The Almyrans and the Alliance outright ignored them so they had to go with the Imperial royals, which many Agarthans considered an absolute disgrace. The story also theorised that the reason why the Crest of Flames implantation was possible in Ionius and his children was because they have the Goddess' blood in them (the author went along with the theory that Ionius was behind the experiments too).

So, after Rhea was killed in Fhirdiad, Lysithea looked up at the sky and saw glowing red lights piercing through the night towards the south. The Kingdom army chose to abandon their capital and retreat to the Gautier territory, waiting for Claude who formed an alliance with the Kingdom to come to their rescue with the Almyran reinforcements. The Kingdom and Church also trapped the entire Black Eagle Strike Force (BESF) inside the capital by blocking all the gates with boulders or something? Can't remember what but that’s not important. Anyway, the BESF soldiers got burnt to death with Rhea and Edelgard and her friends only escaped because Hubert warped them out. I think one of the Black Eagles also got heavily burnt, but I do not remember if it was Dorothea or Caspar. Meanwhile, the main army led by Count Bergliez got decimated by the cardinals who turned into dragons and set fire to the soldiers. Edelgard had to retreat to Garreg Mach with her remaining troops, but she quickly got the news the Imperial capital was also destroyed and decided to march on Shambhala as soon as possible as retaliation.

They got to Shambhala and Thales also pulled his trump card, but Rhea was not around to take the missiles, so the Black Eagle Strike Force suffered heavy loss again. Edelgard herself barely escaped thanks to Hubert, but Bernadetta, Count Bergliez, Byleth and the Death Knight died here (it was written in late 2019 so Emile was seen as a complete psychopath who deserved to go to hell at the time). Ferdinand specifically survived miraculously but he was actually replaced by Myson. Opps, forgot to mention, in the story Seteth and Flayn also died because Hubert and Edelgard sent Agarthan assassins after them (I don't remember what happened to Macuil and Indech though). Anyway, because of their great loss in number, the Imperial army could no longer control the Western part of the Kingdom and the Alliance. The rebellions in the Empire could no longer be suppressed easily anymore and hell broke loose in Fodlan.

One of Rufus' children with the Blaiddyd crest was made queen by Sylvain's father and Felix's uncle (I don't think the author knew illegitimate children could not inherit in medieval europe) and the Kingdom officially allied themselves with the Alliance under Holst, who spearheaded the campaign against Edelgard with Count Gloucester on their side (because they no longer have to fear an invasion). Oh, and I also recall that in that fic Petra's whole act post-timeskip was completely fake and she only pretended to be brainwashed to curry favour with Edelgard. She (and Brigid) switched side once the Empire no longer hold the same amount of control over their country and even backstabbed them by invading. Dagda tried to invade too and part of the story was Lysithea going on a diplomatic mission to negotiate for the Empire (but actually the Resistance).

Hubert tried to have the new leaders of the enemy nations assassinated, but Lysithea killed him with a poison Claude invented. I personally think it was a really clever trick so I still remember how she slowly poisoned them even now. Lysithea put the poison in a perfume bottle and sprayed it on Edelgard and Hubert's monthly share of firewood supply every once in a while. Day by day Edelgard and Hubert became more and more ill and all evidence was burnt to ash until they were slowly poisoned to death so even Hubert did not find out it was Lysithea. The Alliance + Kingdom + Claude won the war against the Empire easily because Myson, posing as Ferdinand, surrendered immediately when Edelgard died, but the real challenge was TWSITD whose influence and power increased a lot during the war due to Edelgard becoming increasingly reliant on them when she started losing (I distinctly remember the 12 Elites being deployed in the battles in that story).

The story ended with a generic good guys vs Nemesis fight and Lysithea married Linhardt. It is a really popular pairing on lofter for some reason, perhaps because Linhardt's personality is a bit similar to the “aloof hot young man uninterested in romance but goes straight for the critical attack when he falls in love” trope (aka Linhardt saying he wants to be family with Lysithea and asking Flayn to have babies with him) which is quite prevalent in China. Lysithea is kind of a tsundere girl, another popular trope in Chinese pop culture. Linhardt jumped ship the moment he had anything more interesting to do (curing Lysithea) than tagging along the Empire army.

Faerghus and Leicester both absorbed parts of the Adrestia territory and they gave Nuvelle to Dagda as a colony (Constance did not exist yet). However, Myson continued to pose as Ferdinand and control Adrestia whose territory had dwindled so much that only the old Hresvelg territory was left. Lurking in the shadows, he would continue to scheme and plot for Agartha’s victory.

#what on earth #this is actually really interesting #would love to read that in english #asks

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macuilsung · 3 years

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{ ooc } Just sitting here thinking of the Verdant Wind paralogue “The Sleeping Sand Legend” and I feel Forwin meeting with the Wind Caller would go very poorly for all parties involved-

So, the beast known as the Wind Caller, a.k.a. Saint Macuil himself.

We know from Edelgard and Constance’s supports that his Crest exists in the Adrestian Empire. We can thank Macuil’s intense hatred of humans for his Crest’s minimal spread and subsequent rarity, suggesting he only passed it down per necessity back during the long raging war against Nemesis.

The Nabatean also possesses the ability to sense Crest-bearing blood in humans, as shown when confronted with Byleth (the stink of Sothis) and Claude (the smell of those detestable 10 Elites) in his paralogue. While he tested Byleth as to whether they possess some share of the Progenitor’s powers, Claude was straight up “not permitted to live,” being the descendant of Riegan of the 10 Elites who joined with Nemesis.

Given the ill will Macuil holds against humanity ever since, especially the Crest-bearing ones, I doubt the dragon would be kinder to someone who happens to possess even a sliver of his own powers. The war he partook in is long over, and even in the present, he wants nothing to do with whatever battle his kin is currently involved in. He wants no association with the affairs of Seiros or Cichol, so I’m sure that zero personal involvement policy of his would extend to a loathsome human who had his Crest passed unto them. Might as well nip that in the bud so his Crest would disappear from human bloodlines forever.

Enter Duke Gerth, who lucked out a winner on his first try playing one of Fódlan nobility’s most favourite pastimes: the magic baby lottery. Since his son inherited Macuil’s Crest from his mother’s bloodline, let alone was infused with a Major Crest, Wyndell was the golden child the duke sought to ensure House Gerth’s prosperity, even going so far as to plan out the rest of his son’s life to further that goal. He was not a son to be loved, but a tool to be used.

Unfortunately, Wyndell caught on to everything as he wisened up with age, trying to go against Duke Gerth’s wishes whenever there was opportunity. His formative years made for a miserable, restrictive childhood where he never fell in line with his father’s values... or lack thereof. What pride was there, knowing he was only brought into this world for the Crest of a long dead (oho) Saint? How different would his life be if he wasn’t born with Macuil’s powers? Why should he have to stick around if he knew things aren’t going to get better?

Come Dagda and Brigid’s invasion, he finally stole away, cutting all ties to House Gerth and hoping to start anew as Forwin. Unfortunately, his Crest is the one thing he can’t part with. Its slip-up discovery among his peers when he went to the Officers Academy, on his terms as a Golden Deer (though not without buttering up someone in Leicester nobility to sponsor him in the first place, but more on that later), forced him to abandon everything and hide in Abyss for probably the rest of his living days.

When Forwin winds up in Nohr, he later comes to understand that Garon only kept him around as his court musician in hopes of taking advantage of whatever powers he kept to himself. It’s no different from how the King treats everyone around him as assets, from his closest advisors to even his own children, but holy shit does it still leave a bad taste in his mouth. It was all too reminiscent of his own father, where once again, Forwin’s own life does not truly feel like his because of his goddess forsaken Crest. As a result, regardless of Corrin’s chosen path, he would be all too eager to put distance between himself and Garon.

Time passes, Forwin returns to Fódlan. Edelgard wrested control of the Adrestian Empire from Duke Aegir, and stripped him and his Insurrection co-conspirators of their titles. Some relented and ultimately sided with the new Emperor, while those opposed were either indefinitely placed under house arrest (like Aegir) or killed (like Vestra). Forwin does not know what became of his father, wanting nothing more than to give his old man a piece of his mind. That said, he bites back his tongue, figuring he might never get the chance; there’s no point in staying angry, so you might as well bury it.

In the Verdant Wind route, however, the Resistance Army saddles up to Sreng to investigate what became of the Saint, a master of magic and a talented blacksmith that bestowed Seiros’s army with an array of powerful weapons. They encounter the Wind Caller, whose sense of smell picks up a number of Crest bearers among Byleth and Claude’s ranks, including his own.

The Wind Caller’s eyes meet with Forwin and some choice words are exchanged. The dragon, who expresses contempt in that his powers survive in humans to this day, something he is eager to correct here and now. The bard, who spent most of his life by this point living under a different identity in spite of his abilities, slowly catching on as to who the Wind Caller really is.

With a lifetime of buried bitterness and resentment now directed towards a face he can name, who only passed his powers down to humans on a passing whim? Forwin snaps as he spends that whole paralogue trying to get even, all while Macuil attempts to rout the pest as mankind has no further business carrying his Crest forward.

This grudge match is going to get ugly.

#{ composure behind composer 🎶 ooc 🎶 }#{ cut for length }#{ verdant arias of unity 🎶 verse 🎶 }#{ forwin vc: well well well- if it isn't the source of ALL of my problems }#{ ooc: so i wrote a ramble on saint macuil and forwin- }

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damoselcastel · 4 years

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Ashen Wolves, part 1

Alright I know like NOTHING about this dlc other than the weirdo fact the HQ is below the main game's HQ. So I'll likely be pointing at stuff and getting tons wrong, PLEASE do not correct me. I want to try and play this as blind as I can and gosh twitter's awful as usual in trying to filter anything, time for a break. Also there's going to be TONS of main 3H route spoilers as I speculate aloud- so maybe don't read if you haven't "finished" the game.

Okay so I'm barely in, saw the intro video, Rhea/Alois co-monologue. And mostly what's come out of this is... there weren't just 5 Nabatean survivors post-Red Valley, but 9. At least who decided to team up under Serios and stop the rampaging cannibal graverobbers.

The 4 previously unmentioned are now "Apostles" (wait, apostles of...what? Do these writers know the title is essentially "student"? WHO'S THEIR MASTER/TEACHER) but they were noted to being alive right after the war... However even without deep-diving spoilers I know their namesake bloodline characters all have Heroes' Relics... So I guess, these 4 dragons got murdenated and turned into tools at some time by molepeople (how did this not set off alarm bells for Rhea?).

Anyway, the DLC exposition dump hammered a ritual to revive the goddess over and over again, which re-contextualizes Rhea's own attempts to do so. Like she didn't take a huge leap in logic, instead she just tried an alternate method when the original attempt failed (but it was still taboo? So maybe the ritual was a different beast altogether) Now I wonder if the final boss will be some 4-blood humunculous sealed in a pit as a failure or something.

Alright, I still find some huge society living in THE GIGANTIC WELL FURNISHED RUINS right under the biggest pilgrimage holy site + political epicenter + military outpost in Fodlan to be a stretch. Like if this were just slums really close to Garreg Mach's outer walls, sure I'd buy that in a second. But in the basement/sewers??? Considering how there's already MULTIPLE underground chambers that're armed to the teeth with traps/golems/magic-ghosts(?) random people wandering down there seems more like a good way to end up dead rather than finding a place to crash. Plus why would Rhea allow this? The DLC will probably try to feed me an answer, but just like with Windmire's "secret society" I'm calling bullshit.

I dunno anything about these DLC characters, other than they all have Major Crests (sorry Felix, your weirdness is no longer unique). But unlike a lot of the fandom, I'm a bit biased against... just in that I don't like how much more anime their designs are for fashion and the like. Gimme period clothing not x2s more belly shirts (its your people femleth). This is also why I’m disappointed by the Awakening design rehash for the classes, I honestly don’t like that game’s visual design and would’ve preferred something more like a Fodlan take rather than Fodlan accents to the outfits. *sighs*

But let's see what I can glean about their personalities from the dialogue-

"Surface laws don't apply down here," says Yuri as one of his teammates rushes off to ambush complete strangers. ...why wouldn't all these noble/royal brats just kill these weirdos for attacking??? Just attacking would be an offense enough that all the ruling powers (hello nobility) would shrug about these sewer dwellers dying. Also the fact the strangers were wanting to run away (thanks Claude) but Yuri would rather assault and physically beat then imprison them, isn't winning any "hero points" for him in my book. Nevermind that FE is ONLY about the battlemaps, this is a pretty hostile stance- and no I don't buy any "their turf is begin invaded" THIS IS STILL GARREG MACH its in the fricking same property line! Also these sewer brats have been spying on students too, to the point the recognize individuals.... so stalking? That's creepy...

"The Church plots to eliminate the inhabitants of the Abyss" look, Constance, I’m surprised Rhea hasn’t just taken you all out already. Since it’s not just people but criminals who'd set themselves up against her institution (from they way they constant talk about the Chuch as The Enemy). Pulling a Parasite (barely above a magical nuclear fallout shelter??? where her relatives' remains are stored) isn’t the smartest move by ANY argument. Pretty sure they only reason they’re still there to begin with is through Rhea’s begin neglect.

Anyway, getting past what I can only call the awkward intro text. Battlewise this map isn't bad, and the limited units/classes make it feel much more like Old FE gameplay. Forcing you into 'tough' situations where you have to play a bit smarter than the average 3H map... though I still found myself muscling through with the right unit-attack order. I'm playing Hard, just cause I don't find 3H on this setting that difficult (no Maddening yet just cause moving-reinforcements is ew) and casual, just cause I KNOW I want to finish this before getting back to my BL run, and I want that to happen sooner rather than later. The only DLC char who actually landed a hit was Hapi. All the rest I destroyed before they could try.

At the very least the Devs tried to write the DLC characters having established connections to existing places/people, because I was bothered by how extremely disconnected all the classes by Blue Lions felt. Like all these leaders kids that’d never met before... wasted potential. So as dumb as I find this underground merc/city guard, their backstories seem to not revolve around “the Abyss”.

I’ll get more into said Abyss more next post, but I have to end this by saying JERALT CANONICALLY BURNS BOOKS!

#Dame plays Three Houses #Ashen Wolves run #fire emblem 16 spoilers #welcome to the salt mines

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crystalelemental · 4 years

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Ok... my thoughts about the DLC. I played on hard, and the side story was INSANELY challenging, which was nice because I was craving that. That said... it was really short. They had a perfect opportunity to do playable Sothis and/or Rhea and DIDN'T, which I can't really wrap my head around. It could have only been for one or two maps (the last two) and I would have been satisfied! But nothing. I was kind of hoping for a new part 2 route based on the Ashen Wolves with playable Sothis/Rhea, but...

But no, that didn't happen. Then finally, in addition, neither Constance nor Hapi have marriages with F-Byleth, and there are no new marriages at all besides with those characters? I mean. I'm not happy. I get that Yuri can marry both Byleths but like. Make the others like that. I prefer playing as FByleth because I feel her eyes are more expressive but I can't marry who I want and thats stupid as hell. If this is the complete DLC, I dont think id recommend it to anyone else, honestly.

I’m actually glad we didn’t get a new part 2 route. I feel like such a decision could’ve very easily been made to be the “peaceful” route, akin to Revelation, where it’s everyone getting to be happy, but is kind of stupid and badly handled. So while it would’ve been nice for everyone to live, I feel like that would’ve thrown off the balance a bit.

As for the rest...under the cut.

My big issue is they didn’t explain much. I was honestly hoping for more of an explanation on the how and what of Sitri. Church route explains that Rhea made Sitri, but we get exactly no insight into exactly what she did or how that’s even possible. I would have liked to get to know more about Sitri’s origins. At one point, my guess for Sitri’s body in Abyss was that Rhea just kept the clones down there in her closet and Aelfric just happened to find one of them.

I love Rhea, don’t get me wrong, but I also feel like a lot of this route kinda backpedaled on the Church route exposition. What I mean is, Church route has Rhea admit to creating human life, and mostly using it as a vessel for her mother’s return. She doesn’t seem to care much beyond that. Even Byleth, ultimately, is meant to be a house for the progenitor god, who she ultimately attempts to erase by having Sothis reincarnate in them. It’s really not a flattering picture for Rhea, who honestly seems really corrupt and selfish in that moment.

Ashen Wolves instead presents this idea that she really cared a lot about Sitri, and was upset at her passing, so much so that she preserved the body in Abyss. That...doesn’t really line up with what we know of Rhea, as it applies to the vessels she prepares. I’m all for Rhea actually being nice, and being kinder than most people seem willing to give credit for, but this route felt like it too that almost too far in the direction of “Rhea is innocent.” Sure, okay. She really loved Sitri so much that Sitri was like a daughter, and that’s definitely why she kept the body perfectly preserved. That seems very believable from the person who is currently trying to have us destroyed to bring back her mother. I guess the parallels with Aelfric are cool, but eh. There’s a lot that didn’t feel perfect in this route. I did hear someone on Twitter claim it was Conquest levels of dumb, but I don’t really agree. I think it was ultimately fine, it just didn’t address the things I’d hope for, and mostly focused on Aelfric’s dick inadequacies. I went into this hoping for more depth on mysteries within the main game, but instead we got something...completely unrelated, and it’s not bad but it’s not entirely what I had wanted.

I think deep down, I was hoping for what would never happen, which is for anyone to just say Morph or Quintessence. I know that wouldn’t happen, but the dragonkin are called Nabateans. Nabateans. Nabata. Tell me this is related to Elibe, dammit. I don’t care how, just do it.

As for gameplay, it was...fun? I have a lot of thoughts but I’ll stick with two. One is, reinforcements on these maps suck. They’re obnoxious and awful and I hate them. The map conditions are unique and fun, and there are certain conditions that prioritize moving your ass forward rather than trying to just tank out, which is a good way to make use of characters who aren’t Edelgard and Hilda. I just feel like certain maps went way, way too heavy on reinforcements as a thing, and it really bogged it down. The DLC is overall pretty short, but some maps felt like an eternity with this dumb shit. Also Yuri pulls a “set the town on fire to protect it” move by having Hapi summon a bunch of monsters when we’re down to the last three enemy units. Thanks buddy, that...that’s good thinking there.

The other is that I...actually love the pre-set classes and everything. I get that people like customization, and the lack of the weapon triangle facilitates that by ensuring no one’s completely fucked because they made an army of Wyvern Lords and Gremories. But...what’s stopping you from making an army of Wyvern Lords and Gremories? They’re categorically the best classes, why do you need anything else? I feel like the lack of weapon restriction alongside the lack of a weapon triangle allows you too much freedom, and it results in a lot of the core gameplay being kinda...less involved. Skills aren’t that strong, no weapon triangle, no weapon restrictions on your units, double magic casts means you literally never think about running out because there’s so many...the challenges of the game start to become “I can one-shot anything from anywhere because Meteor or Thyrsus,” or “I’m going to bait these enemies out with my godwall, who will tank exactly 100% of all threats with no issue because nothing can stop them.” It’s not really as fun. I like to play for stats, but I also like the knowledge that no pure stat wall is going to body the game if you’re not playing smart in most cases. I feel like Three Houses doesn’t have that. A unit with strong mixed defense and good attack basically faces no issues at all. It makes the main game even more of a chore. I appreciated Ashen Wolves for locking in your base stats, your class option, etc. But at the same time. Callie played it and I directed, yet I have no desire to play it myself now. Because...nothing’s going to be different. I can’t use different characters for different purposes, and without the customization aspect of the main game, that means there’s...basically no reason to replay it. I like having things overall be a bit more set, but as a side-story where all characters are deployed, it lacks variety.

All that to say, I kinda agree? Like, the DLC pack really feels like it’s more for the characters and classes added to the main game. Which is 100% fine with me. I am all about Dark Flier Lysithea and will never give this up. Also Constance best girl, it’s bullshit she’s not a bi option.

#ashen wolves

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semi-imaginary-place · 4 years

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fe3h blogging 6 because organizational skills are for losers

oh hey yuri get to join chess club[3:24 PM]balthus DID go to the officers academy twice I’ve been trying to reconcile the route differences... it should be that everything that happens in a different route is also possible in the route you are looking at which ever one that may be. Now all there is is figuring out why those differences exist. or alternately to come up with a probability model to explain those differences. Let’s take the major difference of CF vs VW, AM, and SS. In CF unlike the other routes, Rhea is not captured, she organizes the knights and joins with Faerghus. In CF unlike other routes Byleth chooses to side with Edelgard and Rhea attacks them in the Holy Tomb, this is the only difference. Rhea is incredibly entitled when it comes to Byleth and so takes Byleth’s choice as a deep betrayal as the one who was supposed to be on her side chose not to be. In the battle of Garreg Mach, Rhea then also doesn’t entrust the Church to Byleth. Now how does this connect to Rhea avoiding capture in the battle? It could be she was more on guard after the Holy Tomb in BE, it could be that overall Rhea is likely captured but there is a chance she isn’t. Either way because she isn’t captured, she is there to rally and organize the knight’s of Seiros. In the other routes why didn’t Seteth do it? idk man. The Knights and Faerhgus together are better able to fend off the Empire and with the added security, keep Cornelia, the Agarthans, and Edelgard from framing Dimitri with assassination. Thus in CF Faerghus is in a more unified and powerful position with Rhea running the show. Never quite got why Garreg Mach was abandoned by all the sides given how much the characters talk about its strategic location etc. etc. In SS Rhea degenerates and causes the church to become a rampaging hivemind. Rhea is assumedly also in the palace in AM, but we do meet her in VW. This leads to a few possibilities, either she also dragon degenerated in those routes but the credits roll before we get to see that or she doesn’t. Either way she hold the potential to do so. This is probably the strongest probability argument in the game as we are shown no reason why she does in SS but does not in VW. Rhea is like a ticking time bomb. Maybe they should have blood minstrated like half the church. And then the Agarthans, are they just chilling around underground in AM? yeah, probably. They’re probably back to biding their time just like they have the past 1000 years.

I would like to talk about the three categories by which I evaluate how much I like a character in a series. 1. Personal preference: how much does the character's personality appeal to me on a personal level. Would I want to be friends with this person in real life. Do I just really wish they were real and want them in my life? 2. Character writing: how well written is the character. How good is their character arc? What is the grade of execution? 3. Role in the story: what do they bring to the series as a whole. If they are a villain, are they a good villain? Comic relief. The Bro character. No matter the archetype, how well is it done. What is their narrative and thematic significance.

Let's look at the 3 Lords of Fire Emblem: Three Houses. Please note that due to the branching story line and the ability of the player to choose the cast, I will not be focusing on a character's role in story as much as I usually do. Edelgard Personal preference: low. Her personality clashes with mine Character writing: high. Three Houses characters in general are well written. Edelgard feels like a person, her behavior is internally consistent, she's always herself. One of her main flaws explored in the game is how Edelgard will tunnel-vision and double down on a decision, a path even when it is no longer the best option. Role: high. In Crimson Flowers and to a lesser extent Silver Snow Edelgard acts as the central character, she drives the story. As the villain in 3/4 routes, Edelgard is incredibly interesting, acting as a counter point to the other Lords as well as to Byleth in Silver Snow.

Dimitri Personal preference: low. At first I didn't care, and then he was just annoying. He was solidly #2 on my to-punch-list in Azure Moon after Gilbert. Character writing: high. Dimitri has the easiest to notice character arc in the game as it is the main focus of Azure Moon. As such the most time is spent on his arc and it is very strong. The journey Dimitri goes on as he struggles with himself and his trauma is well written, its only weakness being that it hinges on the player (me) caring about him (which I do not). Role is the story: medium high. the overarching story of the rightful king reclaiming his throne nicely parallels the story of Dimitri reclaiming himself. Thus the external journey mirrors the internal one. Azure Moon most strongly brings the human element to Three Houses and this is both a strength and a weakness.

Claude Personal preference: very high. I wish I had a Claude in my life. His personality meshes well with mine and my life would be enhanced with the addition of his company. When I say Claude is my favorite, this is the category I am usually talking about. Character writing: high. Claude has the subtlest characterization and character arc of the Lords, this is further obscured due to mischaracterization by the English localization team and English voice actor. The characters in Three Houses in general are brilliant and Claude is no exception. He's complex and multifaceted as any real person is, and seeing him grow in to his own in Verdant Wind is a beautiful thing. Role in story: high. Claude's role in the Three Houses is also very interesting, his objectives especially in White Clouds turns the game into a mystery thriller which is breaking edge for a Fire Emblem Game. Claude's background is also a bit different from the others and so following along his story, you are able to gain perspective and see all of Fodlan for what it really is.

Jeralt personal preference: meh writing: good role: dad

wait. wait. so are the 4 apostles are called saints in the intro, but were they also children of the goddess? so i can see indech and macuil dipping after the war of heroes and cethalenn went into a regenerative coma so that takes her and cihol out of the picture, but where were the 4 apostles during the war? and why does balthus' pants have a specially colored patch for his crotch. ... did balthus go to the academy twice? dimitri really went “i’d be nice to just sink into the earth you know” huh. i just started cindered shadows so i can't really comment but... the whole "abyss is necessary for garreg mach" is such horse shit. like oooohhhhh we must have an oppressed underclass to maintain our standard of living. why do the ashen wolves even exist. its not like there's a school down there and yet a bunch of people have uniforms. its not like they took some of the officer's academy uniforms either. why waste resources making custom uniforms? oh hey yuri get to joisn chess club. balthus DID go to the officers academy twice. I wonder what happened to Constance. Also hello??? Intsys you have a kidnapping and torture as backstory problem, especially when its happening to female characters. Hapi get’s kidnapped, tortured and then imprisoned, no wonder the life has left her eyes. Also I don’t trust this Aelfric dude. He set up the ashen wolves “house”, but wouldn’t those resources be better spent on food and medicine. nepotism ho! your parent were good so you must be too

anyone else find Jeralt and Sitri's relationship a little weird. Hundreds of years old dude romances incredibly sheltered 19 year old with little life experience. and she and alfric idolized Jeralt when they were young. sitri was born in 1139 and died 1159 from childbirth. I mean yeah Sitri's an adult and totally consenting and loving, and the relationship is pretty cute and sweet, but.... its kinda weird.... Like when you hear about a 30 year old dating a 60 year old, everyone's well into adulthood, they're consenting adults who can do whatever they want, i have no objections,... but its still kinda weird. WHAT'S WORSE IS THAT THEY DEVS HAD LITERALLY NO REASON TO DO THIS they could have made her any age they wanted to. She could have been 35. but nooooo they didn't do that

the part that bothered me about maneula's writing. Is how the writers talk down on her for having emotions. You see this strongly in the hanneman+manuela paralogue. Where they make her do something impulsive which has negative consequences, which is fair. But then the game punishes her for being too emotional. "being too emotional" now where have i heard that critique before. This is especially in contrast to the game praising hanneman's intellectual rationality. how do i say this... whenever hanneman and manuela argue the game always takes hanneman's side and is overly harsh on manuela. Oh hanneman is right that she should not have run off after a rumor about the death knight like that, but its the framing of the scene that bothers me.

the way people talk about the abyss reminds me of the goldfish bowl metaphor. the abyss provides sanctuary, but in it thye are also trapped. huh so edelgard doesn’t recognize dimitri. people sure do like aelfric, reminds me of a cult of personality, but it seems so genuine... A great rhea’s golems are back. they talk!! I was just joking about people’s souls being bound in there!!! aelfric is one of the cardinals!!!!! I've been trying to find these dude for months!!!!! you hear these lines going on and on about the cardinals. oh. he’s part of the seiros hivemind then. hey kids. if he’s a cardinal than the church probably already knows. this don’t tell the church stuff sounds like a trap. that letter is suspicious af. yuri clearly wants something, but what is he up to,,,

Yeah.. it really sounds like the 4 apostles were nabateans, but if that were so are constance, hapi, balthus, and yuri really descended from them? the 4 saints bloodlines in adrestia are from those gifted blood by the saints. yet i do believe the 4 apostles fled to different corners of fodlan, what remains in question is only if there in their new homes they gave blood (like rhea did to save jeralt), or actually did have kids.

i cant believe balthus got put on the bus via giant bird. ah so aelfric and yuri are cooperating with the agarthans. thats what they were up to. wow yuri really is fandom claude, i can still hear those idiots complaining that claude wasn’t up to anything and that he didn’t betray byleth. huh so yuri is struggling with split loyalty and the solution he came up with was to help aelfric but give byleth hints.

constance calling the holy mausoleum a wretch hovel in on par with sylvain calling the dining hall filthy. huh so that was what yuri was planning. wasn’t expecting the double agent ploy.

so this does not take away from aelfric's decisions, but if rhea hadn't been a coward and just buried sitri instead of keeping her is storage where anyone could find her, this never would have happened. who know's maybe aelfric would have still made horrible decisions, but not this one horrible decision.

wait wait wait. rhea, what happened last time you used the chalice to try and resurrect sothis. what beast was created then? wait wait. nemesis dies and sothis’ heat and bones were retrieved in 91. the blood chalice ritual happened in 185. That’s enough time for rhea to have conducted her first experiment implanting the creststone into someone and having them live out their full life.

prior to cindered shadows i thought claude had 2 given names much like many real world people of dual identity do (multiracial people, chinese americans, japanese americans, etc.), so claude is his name but he also has an almyran name. now though I am leaning towards the idea that claude is a name he took up upon entering fodlan given what he says to balthus at first and the presence of a claudia riegan in the past. from the feast of decadence: where is boramas? and i hope the bit about watching northern swordsmen ripped apart by wild animals at dinner was a play or something. why do books end up in the abyss anyways. why not burn them throughly. rhea certainly knows people have been living down there. i wonder who built abyss. its older than garreg mach for sure. real ironic how the blue lions idolize loog when he was an agarthan pawn not unlike edelgard. rhea's choice contributed to the power imbalance between sreng and duscur compared to faerghus chevalier became village elder and gave everyone blood during wars. half got crests half turned into demonic beasts. that solves that. 1/4 down

i can’t believe aubin almost died in a ditch before yuri’s mom saved them. well that’s one more person with a really long life span

balthus: describing "bashbros" me: its called a life partner. "Balthus became son-in-law to the great commander, Nader" ... what. also why is the balthus yuri pairen ending the only one balthus ends up broke and on the street in. also where's my holst supports. scratch that. WHERE IS HOLST. oh yeah and you all were crying about byleth potentially outliving everyone, well yuri does too

ashen wolves supports that should have happened. Balthus: Manuela. Yuri: Mercedes. Hapi: Ignatz, Petra, Claude. Constance: Lorenz

Also let judith be a playable character. Claude and balthus already have like half a support with her.

why do feel like yuri and sylvain would be a disaster. and disaster in that they'd hurt each other's feelings

claude whenever balthus opens his mouth: shut up shut up shut up. shut up and go away. goddess. please. no. i enjoy seeing claude annoyed more than i probably should

me taking the fe3h developers by the shoulders and shaking them furiously: WHY DON'T CLAUDE AND HAPI GET A SUPPORT. THEY EVEN BOTH HAVE CELESTIAL MOTIFS! claude would also empathize with hapi as an outsider of sorts, as well as both sharing a desire to explore the world. i think the riegan crest and timotheus crest got mixed up in development. in tarot readings the moon is associated with darkness, an unclear mind, madness, creativity etc. it suits "dark dragon" far more than "star dragon". but that doesn't explain why claude gets the unique combat art Fallen Star me one again taking the fe3h developers by the shoulders and shaking them furiously: WHY DON'T YURI AND ASHE HAVE A SUPPORT!! THE APPARENTLY ALREADY KNOW EACH OTHER. THEY HAVE SIMILAR BACKGROUNDS. THEY'RE BOTH FROM FAERGHUS. THEIR BATTLE DIALOG SAYS MEANS THEY WANT TO BE FRIENDS

No bathus/manuela support either LET THEM MAKE POOR LIFE CHOICES TOGETHER. Balthus can have a little milf, as treat

... yuri is very pretty in part 2

Edelgards biggest flaws are her desire for control and her stubborness or the way she will double down on a decision and refuse to budge. Claude's biggest flaws are his inability to trust, and showing his hand too late. A bit more on that last part. A large part of Claude's strategies involve downplaying his side and biding his time. This strategy is especially weak though to an aggressive opponent like Edelgard who can bulldoze him before he has time to play out his plan. Part of the problem is that Claude is very reactive but not very proactive (its one of the reasons I like pairing him with Edelgard and Petra). He won't just go for something the way Edelgard does, he's wait for the right opportunity. This difference you can also see in how the deal with the Church. Edelgard declares war on them because she thinks they are the root of Fodlan's social problems and need to be taken down. She makes a decision she believes in and readies herself for the consequences. Claude actually believes much of the same (The Church is the root of Fodlan's problems) but would much rather avoid those consequences (fall out with the Church). You see in Verdant Wind he will make use of the Church because the are useful. He's even willing to spout Church rhetoric and propaganda (Byleth as a Church symbol) if it suits his end goal of transferring power to an individual who will shape Fodlan's future to his liking (he does have an altruistic and humanitarian goal much like Edelgard). However in doing so he risks empowering the Church even more. In short Claude will put up a facade that he doesn't agree with on an ideals level and so is always in danger of that facade becoming real and failing his goals. yeah so claude character development has him learning to trust and being more proactive in his goals. so i like pairing him with characters that put him on a similar growth trajectory

wait how are the Fetters of Dromi (Aubin) and Vajra-Mushi (Chevalier) around simultaneously with Aubin and Chevalier. Aubin was last seen 20 years ago and the tales of elder giving blood don’t seem ancient, so were they recently killed?

ok if the vajra-mushi is a replica, what’s it a replica of? that implies an original. and its still able to turn people into demonic beasts. how????

unpopular opinion: I hate seteth. his face pisses me off and every time he opens his mouth I want to punch him. please die.

You know... i'd expected someone to have written a modern au of felix and sylvain being roommates with unresolved sexual tension.... but no its been 9 months and I haven't seen anything. Oh I've seen roommates where its like the new and uncomfortable experience of sharing space with someone you dont know and I've seen modern au where they are childhood friends. But i seriously have not seen the specific scenario where they are childhood friends AND roommates. Like... uuugh its just sylvain. But also uuggh its just sylvain?!? Maybe I'll just have to do it myself... but im no good at writing...

What if glenn was 160cm but the kids never noticed (except sylvain) because they're so much younger

I want a spin off fighting game starring ferdinand and caspar. Honestly i just wanted to see ferdinand get into a fistfight with someone like in his support

On a fandom level I think the golden deer are the least popular for a number of reasons:

1. some of the characters only reveal their depth in supports and paralogues. Or in other words you must seek out these character to get to know them. Ex: Lorenz, Leonie, Ignatz. I mean without doing their supports you'd never know that Ignatz is the smoothest out of the Golden Deer the the most likely to get a date. If Sylvain is a poser, Ignatz is the real deal 2. Related to the above the writing sometimes relies too heavily on a character gimmick. Ex: Raphael, and Lysithea to a degree 3. Compared to other houses there are less established dynamics. Other characters (Linhardt and Caspar, BL childhood friend squad, etc.) can play off of each other and this can make them more emotionally accessible to a player. In the beginning especially the golden deer act more like co-workers than friends, they are the least cohesive as a house (which means their growth is that much more delicious). 4. the golden deer route in general is less popular and some characters don't appear in other routes so the sheer amount of exposure these characters get is less than other houses. a lot of people in the "fandom" have only played one or 2 routes and those usually include either azure moon or crimson flower/silver snow. people will also just delete or add things to characters.

OK Jp audio thoughts: tiny grandma sothis Alois is gravelier and yells a lot I've been replaying the line where claude giggles in the jp audiio. How do i record audio ignatz is such a BABY in the japanese version. Like a small bunny Edelgard sounds more princessy Claude is more light hearted, less sassy more... boyish? like that one old school boy character trope that used to be a main character thing and is now more a side character thing eng dimitri more yell-y and feral. jp dimitri is a lot more subdued and dead inside. but the delivery of the lines makes what he is saying all the more disturbing. dissonant serenity.

your path lies across my grave is such a raw line

Why did yuri get a different part 2 sprite. he should age the same rate jeralt did. And in his paired ending with byleth? He apparently looks about the same after decades

Hilda and catherine would be EXCELLENT war masters if the devs weren't sexist

So almyra's big. We don't know how big. Fodlan is 2/3 of europe and almyra is bigger so i imagine there's a diverdity of biomes. I imagine the south coast is mediterranian. But that hinges on how subtropical adrestia is. Medditerranian climates are most common at 30-40 lattitude. The map of almyra we can see on the map is the same lattitude as faerhgus. This could be the greenest part of Almyra. I imagine almyra has both hot and cold deserts with a large plain covering the center. The rest would be scrubland/chaperral. All we know is that claude grew up somewhere with no big trees. I imagine that almyran government is more meriocratic than fodlan but that may vary region to region. I have an idea for both a centralized and decentralized almyra. Each regions leader is like the strongest most organized person around. A bit of nepotism may be involved. The exception would be the coast region which is more sedentary (some parts of almyra are semi nomadic) and may have a republic. Decentralized almyra would work kinda like the eu or us with seperate nations and a mediator for when almyra needs to act as a whole. That mediator aids negotions between regions and keeps things together. Mediator would be a council/appointed position. In a centralized almyra there still wouldn't be a monarachy. The king would choose a sucessor. So the king's kid would have a better chance than anyone but its no garuntee. I like the idea that like the 30 closeat relatives has a last one standing system as part of the selection system. This would allow for a dynastic style if ruling where there's a ruling clan but not direct line of descent

Everyone keeps drawing older felix with long hair but I'm half convinced that 3 years post game he just lops,it off one day or gets a buzzcut

So a lot of people including me have long suspected Claude had an Almyran name and the validation right now just feels so great. Khalid! Given his dialog in cindered shadows I think its more likely Khalid is the name his parents gave him and Claude is the name he took up upon coming to Fodlan

Things have never been easy for Claude, he says in his s support that he's going, to do it (the whole game/war) all over again. It's heavily implied that things to not end well for Claude outside of VW. i don't think the Almyrans would value a surrender to a fodlander tho. Claude in VW proves his competence as a military commander and leader by controlling all of fodlan. Its stated in some of his paired endings that the current king has some say in who the next king is as Claude had to earn his father's approval to ascend the throne. Don't forget that the general Almyran populace hates Claude. He has to prove himself by their standards before any respect is given and in SS/CF/AM he doesn't do that. Remember that the Fodland stereotype is of cowards and that Almyra values spectacles of strength/fighting prowess over tactical efficiency (invading fodlan's throat isn't for the purpose of gaining land/etc. its for the warriors to show off how strong they are), so they wouldn't value strategically weakening your nation (leicester) to stave off imperial invasion, to them that just looks like cowardice and incompetance. not only that he endangered and wasted Almyran soldiers in fighting a foreign war. Remember that no one really knows about Claude's plans outside of VW, he keeps his cards (too) close to his chest, and in non-VW routes the facade of weakness becomes a reality and all his schemes crumble. and he has little to show for his time in fodlan. Claude is less likely to experience character growth outside of VW, but I think there is potential for Claude's character growth outside of VW. One reason for this I'm just not a fan of Byleth's dating sim powers where everyone just falls head over heels for them. For every character and especially the lords, Byleth acts as a catalyst for the character's growth, but Claude (of the lords) is the least dependent on Byleth so I do believe he could have found some of the connections seen in VW if not to that extent. (also I'm a sucker for found family)[4:22 PM]But Byleth does act as the heart and glue of the golden deer so things wouldn't be that great for Claude and co

So we cam see both turkic and persian influences in almyra but I've always wondered at the balance. From the turkic side we have the warrior culture and horse riding. This is also where my speculations on a nomadic society and non monarchy forms of government come from. Also note turkic (central asia, like the mongols) and not turkish (one of the turkic ethnicities). On the other side is ancient persia which was a center of science, technology and learning, a materially wealthy empire with imperial dynasties. These are very different and so balancing headcanons has always been challenging to honor both sides. You can see people are all over the spectrum in fandom.

Me shaking dorothea by the shoulders: YOU ARE VALID. I AM PROUD OF WHAT YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED. EAT THE RICH

im a caught between the dual desires of seeing sylvain succeed at something and be really cool, and seeing sylvain publicly make a fool of himself. sylvain miserable for mundane reasons is such a good look. I pin Sylvain in a headlock and force 2 gallons of respect women juice down his throat

In any universe. Claude's weekly schedule would fill me with terror.

Leonie and dorothea both have "I know a guy" vibes

A while ago I complained that the fodlan calendar doesn’t make sense. Why does the year begin on month 4? Well I recently got around to reading through the abyss library and it confirms that fodlan used to be on the gregorian calendar with months 1-12 lining up with our january-december which in a lot of countries are just month/moon 1-12 and then seiros and the church brought in a new calendar system (imperial year and "___ Moon" naming system). so combined with the other hints from the agarthans (un symbol, ICBMs, etc.), pretty much confirms that fodlan is indeed a post apocalyptic modern world. So the weird calendar system DOES have an in universe justification!

#fe #fe3h

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Yes dead. Rhea wouldn’t have given up the chase otherwise, nor is she implied to have dedicated any military force to finding him at any point innthe current days. We know they were eventually called the 10 Elites because Nemesis and the rest pretended Maurice was dead the moment he became a Beast and disappeared, and History likewise remembered it as only ten. Nothing in the game suggests Rhea thought Maurice was still out there, and she absolutely would not have let him live if she knew he was around due to knowing she made sure to hunt down the other ten.

Bear in mind in Nopes Maurice being part of the Elites is documented, and they later became the 10 Elites (rather than 10+1) because of the "curse" associated to that Crest.

The same book suggests Maurice became "unhinged" after a battle in Gronder - so before Tailtean?

Rhea hunting the Elites is, imo, fueled by both vengeance/retribution but also by the wish to recover whatever was left of her siblings - Maurice "slained" a Holy Warrior and was still hoarding Blutgang - Rhea wants to recover relics (it's the reason behind Constance and Yuri's paralogue in FE16 and it's mentionned in Balthus'!).

Imo, even if Maurice died in a ditch, Rhea would have wanted to "recover" the relic.

So, in a way, the hunt for Maurice should have been both a hunt to rekt him - if he was alive - and a hunt to recover what was left of Bob - the Nabatean who became Blutgang.

Now, in the modern times, we know there are rumours and legends about a demonic beast in Mircea's forest, I can't fathom Rhea/the CoS not knowing a thing about it (hell, why weren't they asked to deal with this issue?) so why wasn't she taking care of him?

As Rhea the Archbishop, maybe she mellowed a bit and adopts a more "reaction" approach, if a relic pops up she will acquire it, but she won't send her people look behind every rock and box if there's a relic inside.

But as Seiros the Warrior? The same Seiros who went to war and spent around 100 years to hunt Nemesis? Who continued to hunt the Elites after Nemesis' death? This Seiros would have let Maurice escape or Bob remain in the ditch Maurice died in (if Maurice died)?

I can't see it - unless there is some event that makes her drop the "Warrior" persona and adopt her more passive "Archbishop" persona - which is what this headcanon (lycaon's death) tried to explain :

Seiros the Warrior is so gung-ho on avenging her dead siblings and "recovering" them that she cannot protect the future (Lycaon's supposed golden rule and the happily ever after ending post WoH!) and the present (Lycaon as a person? Especially if he was her kid!), so Archbishop Rhea (and her many names!) will try to oversee the present - if there is a relic around she'll recover it but she won't exclusively focus on it and won't spare attention to Momo when there are people who currently need her help right now (just like relics though, if there is an opportunity or occasion where Archbishop Rhea can face Momo or meet him, he's dead meat) - and the future - her rez Sothis plan.

#zeroabyss #replies #eff Maurice his paralogue throws so many questions unanswered #why is he still alive and the nabateans didn't murdilate him #or even in general if there are rumours about a dangerous beast in Mircea #why wasn't the CoS and its KoS tasked with getting rid of it #3 Nopes #it basically has a book for common use and not a super secret one saying Momo left and loitered in Mircea #maybe it's rumour or something but why no one went to check?#and since those books belong to the CoS in the first place I can't believe Rhea didn't know or heard of it #so why is he still alive in FE16? Did he spend his time running away?#idk #10k years of lore

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I am gonna be honest I really don't get how people don't understand Crest have nothing to do with being nobles, it's literaly the whole reason behind Mercedes's and Emile's tragic story, that their father who didn't had a crest wanted to marry Mercedes because she had one like her Mother so his children can inherit the Crest of Lamine.

On a side note, I do think that even if Rhea didn't created the Crest system it would have happened with or without her, Crest are superpowers that are rare and humans either worship like a god or treat as a witch people who have special power, I wouldn't believe for a second that left out as is in nature people who have Crest wouldn't try to rule over the other anyway or wouldn't be treated like aberrations.

Hm...

Mercie's mom had a crest and was a nobody, which could be married off to a bastard : aka, despite her crest, Mercie's mom wasn't a noble who was able to say big F to potential "suitors" who were supposed to be beneath her in status since they had no crest themselves.

Constance (and what's left of her fam?) were demoted to nothing and sent to the sewers in Garreg Mach, even if Constance comes from a prestigious family that got a crest from a Saint.

As you said, regardless of nobility wanting to pretend to have "better blood" than the pleb, Crests are superpowers, which would always be sought afer.

The games does it best to avoid talking about the tangible and objective benefits of having a crest - when we see Dimitri crush a man as easily as a snowball in a cutscene - but imo, it's part of Fodlan's DNA, try to spin a very objective and no-solution conflicts (you have a world with two races, and one has superpowers compared to the other, how does it work?) to artificial lip-service and copious amounts of smokescreens.

For something that was only alluded to but completely ignored because otherwise both Nopes and Houses fall apart - Seteth tells Yuri in their Nopes support how it is rumoured that an Elite was cured from an "incurable" disease after getting a crest...

Admitting this is remotely true to what happened in Zanado, does it justifiy the subsequent massacre and genocide? Dominic might die in 2 days if he doesn't kill a Nabatean, was he "right" or justified in killing the Nabatean who became Crusher and drinking their blood?

If humans are envious for good or bad reasons of the Nabateans' powers, what is going to happen when a Nabatean would refuse to share said power ? Are the humans justified in trying to steal it? Are Nabateans asses when they refuse to "lend it" to humans?

This game tries its hardest to avoid blaming the usual trifecta of human greed/assholishness/lust (for power!) as the reason why the world doesn't go round, and blame everything on... blue eyes, that can somehow shoot lasers too.

Of course someone with in-built lasers would be better seen/more valued than someone who hasn't the same lasers, but bar the milquetoast "we should try to accept everyone!", what is the specific answer to the Gautier border issue - crest means the border is defended, no crest and no plot hax means it isn't - should the defender of the border be the crested kid or the non crested-kid?

Nopes!Sylvains finds a loophole and replies with "we won't need to defend the border if we're not at war with Sreng anymore", and it's a nice solution, honestly. I like it. It makes for a bright perspective, of a future where, if everyone play their part, Crests won't be "needed" anymore.

But when it comes to using the power of a crest to heal, will you go to Manu, who cannot heal someone who has a cancer, or to Flayn, who can, if you suddenly learn you have one?

"Just develop chemiotherapy!"

Yes but I'm dying - who should I go to?

Imo, Crust System is used both in fandom and in-game to avoid mentionning the existence of super humans (or non humans if we want to stay close to Supreme Leader's words) and the inevitable jealousy/envy their existence creates/causes in humans, who cannot help but seek after the power they have.

#anon #replies #i swear i wouldn't have fell in the BC hole as I did for 2 weeks if the story with #'pointy ears able to use magic were slaughtered by envious humans who called them names and stole their magic by killing them'#didn't resonate with Fodlan lol #FE16

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Unlike Dorothea, Constance and Hapi at least care about other people. Dorothea‘s "i cared for orphans" is just a lie since many people think she doesn‘t care about other people, only gets worse post-timeskip since she never grows, changes or develops. No surprise why she went from being popular to unpopular and is one of the most hated characters(especially here on tumblr)

Hapi gives some "i don‘t give a damn about anyone and everything" but deep in her heart she does. The same could be said about Constance i think since her "House Nuvelle here, House Nuvelle there" may sound selfish at first but it‘s just about the people who live at her country

I wouldn't say she's the most hated character (have you tried the rhea tag or the dimitri tag ?) on Tumblr, but I guess since Tumblr is more welcoming than Twitter or redshit, you see a lot more "divergent opinions" than on those other websites.

(even if you never know when someone is lurking to bomb you with a perfectly written anon ask!)

And that's fine, but as usual, tumblr etiquette is “don’t put a character tag in your posts if you’re ranting” - make a custom tag or something, but when people are searching for the “Mickey Mouse” tag, they don’t want to see critical posts about Mickey Mouse.

Hapi is Hapi, and Constance, save for being a window into non Enbarrian Adrestian life (and a HC fuel for being a 32th generation of nabatean hybrid), doesn't interest me that much.

And there's nothing "wrong" with a character who doesn't change during the course of the game, or who is an antagonist, like you'd ask me who are my favourite TS characters and I'll reply without a doubt the "Aesfrost siblings with white hair".

I joked with a friend about Supreme Leader's court, but basically, imo, it's a disservice to her character to make her able to ditch Supreme Leader, because Doro's character is dependent on her, regardless of what she is saying - Doro's adhesion to Supreme Leader says a lot about the two.

And the Nopes bit with Hubert calling her a "special kind of commoner" just cements it - Supreme Leader’s supposed to bring a new era for useless and commoners and randoms alike, but even amongst non-nobles, you already had distinctions with people who had talent and merit - Doro - and the useless and non talented ones.

Doro shows how a certain hierarchy already exists within the “non noble” peeps - but never thinks about it because, imo, that’s her character.

Both in FE16 and Nopes it’s the same song : the BESF is basically Spongebob and Patrick when they "did it" and saved the city.

Doro is pretty judgmental, without any self-reflection (remember in FE16 how she suggests to keep the damages to the “well off” parts of Enbarr, so only nobles die from the battle?) but hey, she’s not part of Supreme Leader’s court for nothing!

#anon #replies #character rant #I really think Doro should have been a CF exclusive #doro stuff #FE16 #3 Nopes #imo they could have done something interesting with Constance being in TS's Silvio's shoes #like she wants to protect her people even if the world has to be sacrificed a bit like what they could have done with CF Ferdie #but they didn't :('

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I thought Dorothea is your most hated character(it‘s very hard to surpass her in that since many other people here hate her too since she is now quite unpopular) but it is Hapi? I thought even Constance would be more hated

Really?

I wouldn't say "hated" when it's more of a "ugh sigh" and bench reaction, and hating something takes time and engagement which I prefer to consecrate to something else "feeling bad about a fictional character".

Imo, Constance isn't as annoying because she can be, like Ferdie, someone who represents Adrestian nobility and can oppose Supreme Leader based on her moral compass (some Adrestians have one!), or someone who's willing to do whatever is needed - and compromise herself in the way - to reach her goals.

The Sun stuff is annoying and just, imo, here to give her a "quirky trope".

Granted, I don't really think much about Constance (like a good portion of the student cast) save for the HC that she is Noa - the Nabatean - descendant and is 1/256th part lizard.

#anon #replies #fe16 #I remember I hc an OC Adrestian noble once in the Civil War AU #To give more insight in Adrestian political life #But now I realise Constance and hey bg sort of fit #Fodlan AU #Partly #Character rant

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Hybrid Nabatean headcanon?

Uh...

Well, if you insist

HC Nabateans are made of magic.

Sothis made them using “magic” since she is the reason why “magic” spread through the land (Fodlan+other countries), after her arrival in Fodlan.

Flayn is a special case - because she was born when Sothis was still alive.

That is why she can transform, and have a different crest from her dad.

Sothis blessed her mom with a longer life than what patient 0 would get from a simple crest transfusion. That's why Cethleann is closer to a Nabatean than any other hybrid - Sothis lit gave her mom more “magic” to make her offspring close to a Nabatean.

Nabatean pregnancy takes more time than a normal human one (and is more dangerous if the mother is human, that’s why Sothis “strengthened” Cethleann’s mom even if she had Cichol’s crest). Flayn is thus closer to a Nabatean than other hybrids, she can transform, have her own crest and has the longer lifespan. She can even be cut for parts.

Roughly it is equal to more or less 10 years (Ena took around 20 years to give birth to her son?). This is partly why it was more or less codified that Nabateans has to give their blood to their human partner, so the human could spend time with their offspring.

Post Sothis hybrids are different -

With the Progenitor God dead, there is less magic in the air, only the Nabatean can pour his magic, but they cannot gather it on Sothis’s levels, so the kid ends up as a strengthened version of a human, with a few Nabatean traits.

As a result, post-Sothis, Male Nabateans have a lot of difficulties to “create” a hybrid, because they cannot pour magic constantly to the baby who isn’t in their bodies. As a result, interbreeding with a male Nabatean rarely produces a viable offspring, and if it does, the baby is much more closer to a human than a baby born to a Nabatean Mother.

Ditto for second gen children, hybrid Mother can pass on more “magic” and Nabatean genes than a hybrid father.

Hybrid Nabateans would have a crest stone instead of a heart, but age faster than a pure blooded Nabatean and wouldn't be able to use as much magic as a Nabatean could. They share the same crest as their Nabatean parent, but their bones aren’t shiny and cannot be used to craft relics. However, they are still “super-human” as in, uh, being able, idk, to tank 1 nuke (instead of 5 like Rhea), jump 20 meters high and have a way more “magic” than a human, even a crested one.

They still have the traditional pointed ears, green eyes and green hair.

Second generation children (1/4th Nabatean) have varying hair color and eye color, but round ears. They only share a crest and have a very slightly longer lifespan, but not the additional Nabatean traits.

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Hybrids were actually common before the first Agarthan War - but afterwards, they became ultra rare - some Nabateans thought humans were arrogant, greedy and full of hubris, so Cichol is the only odd loser who grew fond a human.

Of course, everyone loves Cethleann, so maybe humans aren’t bad and all.

But then Nemesis happens.

Noa's children were born after the Chalice - I mean, Noa's kid (rumour says she had a son, who had a lot of difficulties to get a child, so she got a daughter too, but then, both managed to get a child). She expressly wanted to avoid to have more than two kids, and told her kid(s) not to have large families too.

With time, of course, her decree was forgotten - at least the "why" - but House Nuvelle still tried to have the fewest heirs possible, and tried to hide/keep their crests pure, i.e. not intermarrying with other crested families. Actually, their obsession to become “purer” was to return to Noa’s first kid, who was able to do “inhuman” feats - they wanted to gain a closer concentration of Nabatean blood - but sadly it didn’t happen.

By the 4th generation, all Nabatean traits disappeared save for a pronounced affinity for magic.

Constance still has stomach-aches after eating a Zanado Fruit, but she doesn’t immediately throw up like “regular” humans. (The Noa fruit was engineered based on Zanado fruits, they are supposed to be Zanado fruits but tempered to be able to be eaten by humans because Noa wanted to share a Nabatean recipe with her grandchildren, who cannot eat Zanado Fruits, so she made the Zanado Fruits edible by humans!).

Willy the Loser might have tried to get a kid, but given how Seiros the Warrior kept on being a Warrior and always depleted her magic when she was fighting, none could be allocated for a kid who couldn’t “grow” post conception.

Seiros the Warrior never knew about this, naturally.

Wilhelm’s heirs, and House Hresvelg members, are thus 100% human.

When creating Citrus’n’co, Rhea thought about hybrids but thought creating an artificial body out of human and Nabatean materials wouldn’t be able to host Sothis’s powers and/or consciousness, so she only used her own, uh, fluids/materials to create her artificial beings.

Billy, born from an artificial Nabatean and a human, is able to host Sothis’s consciousness and powers, was a welcomed surprise. Granted, Billy might also have worked because they were born “naturally” and not “artificially”.

However, given how Citrus was not a “real” Nabatean, Billy has no hybrid powers nor abilities (but then they merge with Sothis).

Post Sothis fusion!Billy, should they have children with the Nabateans and Flayn, would create beings on Flayn’s levels, for all intent and purposes, a Nabatean.

#anon #replies #Fodlan AU #nabatean stuff #FE16 #Noa and the others were nabateans #House Blaiddyd will thus never be full of tiny half lizards by the second gen they lose the pointed ears #and don't even need warm rocks #ditto for the Almyrian royal family #is it the wilhelm hour?#I don't think the hresvelgs could be half lizards #But if they were it's the recipe for a disaster #House Hresvelg who started as a symbol of coexistence between humans and nabateans is terminated by its last member #in a way it's sort of poetic the last scion rejects this coexistence but it's too bad and a crappy message #on par with Tellius's branded issue imo #but throwing House Nuvelle in the sewers for a stupid reason? Add the 'they descend from a lizard' bonus #Breaking news : Citrus could eat Zanado fruits just fine but Billy cannot pre Sothis fusion #idk about the magic thing let's say they absorb it from the environment or something they're dragons born from a space alien #thing is only sothis can create nabateans #and no i didn't got into what if two nabateans have a kid because eff it

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Macuil friday thoughts

In Edel and Constance’s B support, Edel says the crest of Macuil “already existed in the Empire" talking about how Constance hid her Noa crest -

Now, apparently, Birdie left after the war of heroes. Noa most likely parted with Rhea after the first Chalice incident, after the WoH. Meaning, someone with a Macuil crest was already in the Empire when Noa and her “children” came to Adrestia (is Constance talking about biokids, as in half-nabateans? or children of the people Noa blood bonded with? And what about her oath to never pass her crest down?).

More important than Noa’s kids though, is Birdie! Macuil actually passed down his crest, like Indech and Cichol? Macuil became disgusted by the world of humans, but at one point, he developed magic with them and granted, at least, to one person, his blood.

maybe macuil granted his blood to a random who seemed to be a good guy, then it was revealed that guy was a Valtome like and he said “peace i’m out”

It is however surprising that no one in our imperial noble student bear a crest of Macuil - you’d think having the crest of a saint would immediatly make a family one of the 6 great ones, but either it died out (when Indech managed to be passed down to two families and Cichol is still going on strong!) or the Macuil blooded humans figged away somewhere.

Also, lizards have critical lines or lines when they use their staggering blows and I never noticed :

Macuil goes :

“ You must prove yourself! ”

okaaay

“ Tremble before me! ”

Birdie thinks he’s hot stuff, for sure he is annoying, but not the most annoying thing in this game.

“ Wretched children! ”

Birdie thinks humans are children? Or people attacking him are children? Is he in a “boomer” phase, berating younger gens or somethings?

“ Your spirit is weak! ”

What kind of spirit is he talking about? If this was supposed to be trashtalk it doesn’t really work.

Indech also has lines :

“ Your ashes are for the wind! ”

Dude what are you talking about ashes? Seriously ? You’re a water dragon you can’t roast anything

“ You must prove yourself! ”

Same stuff, but unlike Macuil, Indech is actually playing a “are you worthy enough” game to hand out his bow, so this makes some kind of sense. Macuil’s fighting against what he perceives as thieves, so it doesn’t work.

“ Insignificant creature! ”

Indech sees humans as insignificant or it’s just a random crit quote? Is he roleplaying?

“ I see right through you! ”

Uh... Maybe he is a good judge of character? Or can see through our traps and tactics, but that’s something he should say to Claude, not to, potentially, his bro Seteth or Boar!Dimitri...

So maybe those quotes (I didn’t find them on the datamine! So I don’t know what they’re like in the jp version) are random, but if they are to be believed, when attacked, Macuil thinks humans (people attacking him) are children, and Indech thinks they’re insignificant?

No wonder why they don’t get along or don’t pay a visit to their sister who surrounds herself with humans in her monastery...

And yet, they still agreed to help humans during the WoH, Macuil taught them magic and Indech “helped those in need with his skills and wisdom”. They gave their blood. Maybe it was just a whim, or they really wanted to get rid of Nemesis and couldn’t leave Rhea and Cichol alone, idk. Or maybe Cethleann asked them and since they’re doting uncles they couldn’t refuse, even if it meant siding and fighting side by side with humans.

Tl;Dr : I think Macuil used to befriend humans and see them in a good light, even during the War of Heroes. Then he left, for some reason (I suppose it has to do with the Elites and their families), he traveled a bit and now when we see him 1k later he is fed up with humans and their wars. He thinks of them as “children”.

Indech remained in Fodlan in his lake, and either roleplays hard, either thinks humans are “insignificant creatures”. Still, this is the guy who has fun sending legion of phantoms in a FOW map to “test” humans to see if they’re worthy enough to use his bow, and if they didn’t get slaughtered and managed to “defeat” (note how Indech doesn’t fight to death/sleep unlike Macuil) him he laughs and hands out his shiny bow.

#FE16 #macuil #indech #nabatean stuff #I might start an useless thoughts series about this game #now i was sure macuil didn't pass out his crest but apparently he did #and yet we don't see anyone in the empire with that crest #given how the kids out here are heirs or something you'd think they'd have a crest? of macuil?#where's the 'only crested people can inherit others are doomed to the sewers' rhetoric?#where are the macuil people?#both gerth and ochs we see in game and they don't have it #but if they're the leader of their houses then they should have a crest ?#indech messes with humans by sending hundred of phantoms #dude that is not funny #i stand by hc that noa was a nabatean #maybe constance doesn't really know about giant lizards but did noa have children?#meaning smol lizards living in Adrestia free and keeping their 'bloodline' pure? they didn't associate with humans more than needed?#hopefully they weren't relic'd #then with time the offsprings lost their lizard traits and became regular humans #also meaning Seteth might not have been the only weirdo to shag a human

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