#Earldom

[kingoftheu]

Arms I made up for Jane Roland (and later Emily’s) Ducal House. Roland’s titles are never mentioned in the books, but I have her created Duchess of Carmarthen. Carmarthen was a major center in Wales prior to industrialization. It is meant something of an insult from the government because the Welsh are icky, just like women and aviators. The Rolands, naturally, do not care one bit and rather take a liking to the place. Most estates they are awarded are in England, however. They do not currently have a seat because they have dragons to fly. Might get some subsidiary titles (maybe something named for Scotland near Loch Laggan) so that Emily can be a Countess.

The dragon is not a perfect longwings, but it is blue, and holding a grenade to symbolize the guns and bombs. Four yellow stripes on green for an Admiral of the Air. Golden Laurels for Victory. A ducal coronet above. Jane is extremely mad that the College of Arms said she couldn’t swear in her motto, and refuses to use Latin or French until someone suggests “Excidium.” The dragon himself is quite pleased with this, although wishes his portrait was better. But the poor College of Arms people are already so sad about his hastily put together arms that Jane just left it.

[abybweisse]

How long it took for o!Ciel to be named as the new lord Phantomhive officially? I was talkimg to a friend and she said it was few month before the story started but I understood it was few months after returning from the cult.

March 17, 1886

As I've posted before, there's actually a date for it, mentioned in a letter from the queen: March 17th.

Since our earl emphasizes how quickly he and Sebastian trained to properly fill their roles, this has got to still be 1886, just a couple months after making the contract and returning to the manor.

Something else I talked about in that previous post: the queen controlled the estate during this time, and I want to know exactly what she did with the people (the residents of the earldom) and the money. Because I theorize that part of the reason for the attack was so that she could use Phantomhive money and workforce, denied (or partially denied) by Vincent, on her precious Tower Bridge project. She had from December 14, 1885 to March 17, 1886 to use the money and people however she wanted. Many of the people she would have relocated are probably still in London, three years later, working on the bridge. And this helps explain why the estate was broke and the earldom was in such a terrible state of disrepair when our earl and Sebastian return to the manor... why the entire earldom was so rundown, not just the manor in burnt ruins.

[mobileseuro]

[edettethegreat]

You asked for Edmund asks and I'm here to deliver. Sorry if this really surface level or straight up wrong, I am but a normie when it comes to enjoying Shakespeare. So there's before the scene where Gloucester gets blinded, Edmund is sent away by Cornwall and it felt like a missed opportunity to make him prove his loyalty. Eventually, I assumed Cornwall didn't want him backpedaling and that got me wondering, would he? I mean, would it have changed anything if Edmund was in the room or tasked with blinding Gloucester? On one hand, Gloucester's situation is of Edmund's own design, it's not like he doesn't know how serious treason is. On the other hand, he may not like or respect him much but he still craves his approval and it makes me wonder what would change if he was holding the blade.

oh this is interesting

in short, I think bringing Edmund along for Gloucester's interrogation would be counterproductive on many levels.

For the most surface level explanation, at this point Gloucester didn't know that Edmund betrayed him. He still believes Edmund is a good and loyal son. If there's any chance of him surviving the interrogation and getting away (as he does), you would want to have someone who he trusts to keep him under control.

standard 'playing politics' move.

During the interrogation -- Regan, after Cornwall is stabbed and Gloucester's eyes are out, reveals that Edmund has betrayed him. It doesn't seem like this was part of the original plan, and this ultimately ends up costing Edmund his life.

On the topic of Cornwall potentially needing Edmund to prove his loyalty-- the only thing being involved in Gloucester's torture would prove is that Edmund hates Gloucester. Which he already knows, as he heavily implies he's aware that Edmund's intentionally destroying the Gloucester noble lineage to become earl. And he thinks that that's very cool of him :)

On top of all that, dragging Edmund into the interrogation is not the role he want to play here. Whatever he's got going on here-- "thou shalt find a dearer father in my love" -- again, this is another political move. He recognizes what Edmund is capable of, and most likely wants to use this new connection he has to him. Edmund turned to him to denounce Gloucester as a traitor, and Cornwall wants to play the role of Edmund's 'savior' who removes this 'awful evil traitor' Edmund was 'brave enough' to denounce.

Him sending Edmund away before the torture could be a way of saying 'don't worry, I've got this covered from here.' He's choosing to actively take a part in Edmund's ascent to the Earldom, proving allegiance to the brand new earl of gloucester.

in short. the torture functions more as Cornwall proving his loyalty to Edmund's cause than any potential loyalty test for Edmund.

and of course imma shout out @suits-of-woe's Cornwall analysis posts-- he understands Cornwall on a level deeper than I could ever hope to, and I feel like reading his Cornwall Analysis Saga should be required text for anyone playing Cornwall

[hephaestuscrew]

Clara's father being an Earl means that her family outranks Baron DeVries' family in terms of the hierarchy of the nobility. DeVries - a mere Baron, the lowest rank of British nobility - is constantly making references to his family's heritage and history and the responsibilities that come with it. Meanwhile, Clara - the daughter of an Earl (which is two ranks above a Baron) - actively avoids mentioning her aristocratic heritage and is making every effort she can to construct an identity and a life that is separate from that heritage. DeVries' adventuring is a continuation of his family's legacy; Clara's is a rejection of her's.

[dsgustng]

Burden of life

[livestockbird]

Since Flavedo is finished and uploaded....

Here is a little teaser art for the next Dead Dove fic.

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[royalsimsoflandova]

Noble Wedding

Christian, Viscount Umbarge, son and heir of The Earl of Finasia, marries his fiancé Miss Emma Ashbourne.

The wedding was attended by family members, notably The Crown Princess of Landova (previously Lady Lacy Umbarge, cousin of the groom) and The Crown Prince Oscar of Landova.

Miss Ashbourne will now be known as Viscountess Umbarge.

(image L-R;)

Mr Caden Adams and Lady Amber Adams (maternal cousin of the groom)

Omar Stallings; The Duke of Tsaria and Willow; The Duchess of Tsaria (maternal cousin of the groom)

James Umbarge; The Earl of Finasia (father of the groom)

Lady Joanna Umbarge (sister of the groom) Emma; Viscountess Umbarge and Christian; Viscount Umbarge (the bride and groom) HRH The Crown Princess of Landova (paternal cousin of the groom) and HRH The Crown Prince Oscar of Landova

Helen; The Dowager Countess of Finasia (aunt of the groom)

Louis Barone; The Duke of Farya (maternal cousin of the groom) and Piper; The Duchess of Farya.

[royalsimsofnevodia]

Their Royal Highnesses The Duke and Duchess of Magnolia

Son and Daughter-in-law of The King and Queen.

(members of the Royal House part 3)

[fideidefenswhore]

now. that. we. don't. talk!!

[malkaleh]

So at some point recently I saw a ‘put your friends OC into your OC’s world’ (it may in fact have been via @emilykaldwen I feel like) and my brain went ‘….okay but Abby in Tudors OT3 verse’ and so here, have Lady Abigail Harren daughter of the last wife of Lord Lionel Harren - Lady Cecily Grenville and cousin to Lady Helen Norwich.

Her mother was Helens mother's sister - both she and Helen were surprise late in life babies, when their parents had given up on having children but while Helen is an only child Abigail has some much older half brothers.

The thing is, Helen’s uncle, John Welles is one of thee main horrible people in this universe. Not to her, so much - she’s an asset he can use (and so is Abby).

(A note: my knowledge of ASOIAF/GOT lore is uh, select fanfiction and my friends but Abby is such a good character and my brain was like ‘this needs to happen’ so)

Cecily and Helen’s mother Maude were incredibly close and remained so after their marriages but while Maude did not come to court, preferring the country Cecily was one of the principal ladies to her younger cousin Alice, the daughter of the second son of the Earl of Kent.

After Alice was married off to a much older northern nobleman as his second wife, a choice that was not without controversy as it seemed to displace his daughter Ruth (and Alice’s former best friend) by his first wife who had been his heir. Despite Alice giving her husband three sons (Arthur, Anthony and Daniel) his heir remained Ruth.

Helen spent half her time with Abigail at the Earl of Kent’s estates in Canterbury and half with her parents in Norwich at Welles Hall - a place that Abigail also visited - all the children were close - Helen and Abigail considered themselves sisters all their lives and the children all played together.

It was Helen and then Arthur above all who bought Abigail back to herself after the deaths of her father and all but one of her brothers (her mother died when Abby was very young) perished in a fire and she found herself the heir to a rich estate after her brother Lambert.

It was Lambert, a close friend of John Norwich who seems to have encouraged the betrothal of his sister to Arthur, while Norwich, who had at first been enraged by Helen’s birth - for the displacement of him as heir to the Earldom after his brother had realised that she was a tidy way to build alliances and keep the estate within the family, sought to place his nieces hand where best it would benefit him.

Helen falling in love with James, the oldest son of Lady Ruth was not within his calculations. Abigail being less the pawn than he and her brother believed was not either. Let alone Arthur deciding he will be the husband that Abigail deserves. A good one.

[shadowglens]

siggi arrives in eoferwic a few weeks before her brothers’ planned raid north into scotland, demanding that they instead take their armies back across the sea to avenge their father. being refused, and by her brothers no less, infuriates her, especially as the wound of what happened in norway is still freshly weeping. she had expected the news to rattle them, but siegfried seems mostly just glad to see her alive and well.

erik convinces her though that they must grow their power more in england first before venturing elsewhere. seeing his little sister’s festering anger and frustration, he is the one that offers for her to join them in the north. “perhaps spilling some blood will sate you for now, little sister,” erik says with a hand on her shoulder, “until the time is right to avenge our father?”

[blackboar]

Why did William Stanley betray henry vii?

Sorry to be late. It's a good question, but my first answer got erased, and I ragequit for a time. First, I must point out that there still is controversy regarding whether Sir William Stanley did betray Henry VII. Evidence is slim, and we do not know the exact plan he had in mind, only 'treasonous' talk. I think he did attempt to support Perkin Warbeck and that there was a Household plot, or at least something resembling that, burgeoning at the Tudor court. Sir William Stanley attempted to revolt against Henry VII because I think he simply thought Perkin Warbeck was Richard of Shrewsbury. This is why he rebelled against Richard III. Recall Sir William was a servant of Edward V and consistently followed the House of York during its struggles against the Lancastrians.

When the House split in 1483, he remained loyal to Edward IV's progeny. Hence, his support to Henry VII which was support to his late master's daughter. Perkin Warbeck was another struggle for him because if he was Richard of Shrewsbury, then he was probably the rightful king in William's mind. William was sixty years old by then and a very dangerous foe to have, with the income of an earl and large cash reserves. His defection was a blow to Henry VII who managed to preemptively arrest him. Still, the 'betrayal' of William Stanley was a sign of enduring frailty for the Tudor regime.

[chwe-y]

so like is jameson a lord too now or what? kind of want more simon and jameson interactions like that part where branford is yelling at him about being reckless and jameson starts feeling things coz 1) "i don't need a father" "you don't have a father" and 2) this adult is yelling at him coz he cares, coz jameson is family and family looks after family aka "family first" like buddy here's an adult who doesn't want anything from you he just wants you to be safe coz you're a kid, you're his nephew....so like I need more of that pls and thx also is jameson a viscount now? how does this work? if averyjameson get married will they be lord and lady hawthorne? lol

[edettethegreat]

me every time edmund says anything: So Right So True babe,, go destroy the english nobility <3 <3

[natequarter]

medieval/early modern history is a fun game of "Where Did That Earldom Go?" where you have to follow a chain of biography citations, genealogical trees, and wikipedia pages for old men who died childless to figure out where the hell that earldom got to, and if it even remained an earldom