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philosophybits · 1 month
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Some say that suffering is self-made, some that it is made by another, some that it is made by both, and some that it is without cause; but it is not correct to think of suffering as an effect.
Nāgārjuna, Mūlamadhyamakakārikā, Siderits & Katsura tr. (12:1)
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fangednominals · 2 months
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37q · 2 months
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i wrote this in response to r/occult comments up in arms over the colloquialisms in "turned this useless rock into a talisman". RE: "who are you a mere human to define the value of something greater than us"
The madhyamaka two truths doctrine outlines a way to subvert this kind of conceptual polarity.
Say we have an apple. It is not an apple, because apple is an impermanent psychosocial attribution. Likewise, nor is it a fruit. It isn't a single part of a tree's gestational cycle, either, because that cycle is interwoven with nutrient intake, hormonal regulation, changing climate conditions, and bird and rodent populations. It's not the accumulation of its environment because there is no point where it stops and its environment starts. It's not its molecules because those molecules aren't even their own, as permanent as the universe and independent as their electrons.
All throughout this we rely on imprecise abstractions of human-perceived materiality. It's not simply what we say it is, and it's not simply anything else. The apple is empty of what we call "apple", but is "empty" not also empty of what we think it is?
We're at an impasse here -- how do we talk about something that can't be pinned down? How do we recognize the difference between conventional truth and ultimate truth without declaring it all empty... and without declaring our idea of emptiness as empty? That would be so annoying!
The Mūlamadhyamakakārikā contends that the only way to reckon with the emptiness of any thing is to reckon with its conventional attribution. Yes, its use cannot be defined by humans, nor can its value. However, no matter how far back you take it, ultimate 'use' and 'value' are just as impermanent and empty as their conventional versions. We use human languages and human minds to communicate it, so all we can do is represent its relationship with us. Even when we're not involved we still center us, unless we can enlighten ourselves to actual emptiness!
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noosphe-re · 2 years
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Nāgārjuna's Mūlamadhyamakakārikā
1. If arising were produced, Then it would also have the three characteristics. If arising is not produced, How could the characteristics of the produced exist?
2. If the three, arising, etc., are separate, They cannot function as the characteristics of the produced. But how could they be joined In one thing simultaneously?
3. If arising, abiding, and ceasing Have characteristics other than those of the produced, There would be an infinite regress. If they don’t, they would not be produced.
4. The arising of arising only gives rise To the basic arising. The arising of the basic arising Gives rise to arising.
5. If, as you say, the arising of arising Gives rise to the basic arising, How, according to you, does this, Not arisen from the basic arising, give rise to that?
6. If, as you say, that which is arisen from basic arising Gives rise to the basis, How does that nonarisen basis Give rise to it?
7. If this nonarisen  Could give rise to that, Then, as you wish, It will give rise to that which is arising.
—Nāgārjuna, The Fundamental Wisdom of the Middle Way: Nāgārjuna's Mūlamadhyamakakārikā, translated by Jay L. Garfield
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kyrakaisla · 2 months
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Alles Gute, Lieber Andreas
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It's getting to be that time of year when I am no longer sure whether or not I should light a fire. I tend to just go ahead and make one because I have enough wood, and because it is just so nice to sit near it. I have enough thanks to Andreas, who gives me all the leftovers from his workshop. Starting a fire with with ebony, teak, and wenge kindling feels like something the very decadent Esseintes from 'Against Nature' would do, and it always makes me smile.
A few weeks ago, Andreas won 'die Braut', the 'bride', at the local Bavarian wood auction. The bride is the most expensive log per cubic meter, this year a little yew, so little in fact that they didn't even bother putting it in the newspaper, as they normally do. I find this disappointing, Andreas is relieved. I'm sure, when it dries out he'll make something beautiful from it.
Lately, when my fire has gone out and cooled down, I'll dig my hand into the ashes and pull out the little bits of charcoal for drawing with. They make a lovely, buttery black. If the drawings are any good I'll keep them, but more often than not they end up back in the fire.
So many incarnations of one tree: furniture, warmth, sketches.
“Cyclic existence is without end and beginning. So there is no beginning or end. Where there is no beginning or end, how could there be a middle? It follows that thinking about this in terms of prior, posterior, and simultaneous is not appropriate.”
— Nāgārjuna, Mūlamadhyamakakārikā
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philosohappy · 1 year
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"We state that conditioned origination is emptiness. It is mere designation depending on something, and it is the middle path. Since nothing has arisen without depending on something, there is nothing that is not empty."  
Mūlamadhyamakakārikā, 24.
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tinymuddypaws · 2 years
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Action depends upon the agent. The agent itself depends on action. One cannot see any way to establish them differently.
Nāgārjuna, Mūlamadhyamakakārikā 
 The Fundamental Wisdom of the Middle Way -  Jay L Garfield  (Oxford University Press) https://terebess.hu/english/Nagarjuna.pdf 
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budaenlayerba · 2 years
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fede neceisto tu ayuda! quiero arrancar a estudiar el Mūlamadhyamakakārikā¿me podrias recomendar una buena traduccion y algunos estudios complementarios que me puedan guiar en la lectura?
Hey, sí!
Consejo: no empezar por ahí de 0. Primero empezar por los Saravastivada y el Kosha de Vasubandhu. Luego, la versión de Vélez es muy buena. Simplemente, hay que estudiarla con alguien que se haya formado en la Madhyamaka
Espero que sirva!
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drunken5tein · 4 years
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Those who view own essences, different essences, Things and non-things Do not see suchness In the teachings of the Buddhas.
Nagarjuna
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insightsinfo · 4 years
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philosophybits · 2 months
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Impulsive acts are the root of life. Fools are impulsive; the wise see things as they are. When confusion stops through insight, impulsive acts cease. Stop this and that will not happen: anguish will end.
Nāgārjuna, Mūlamadhyamakakārikā, Batchelor tr. (Ch 26)
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astranemus · 3 years
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Not from itself, not from another, not from both, nor without cause:
Never in any way is there any existing thing that has arisen.
Nagarjuna's Middle Way (Mūlamadhyamakakārikā), trans. by Mark Siderits and Shōryū Katsura
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thanks, and i hope not to be taking your time. i've read the buddhism is divided in three great traditions, namely theravada, mahayana and vajrayana. why were you drawn specifically to the last one? are there aspects of the other two that you enjoy? are there aspects of your tradition that you are critical of (and comfortable to publicly discuss)?
:D little biographical journey to flesh all this out for ya
yes buddhism is comprised primarily of three major organized schools! the study of buddhism divides them point blank, but theyre mostly divided by lineage and history!
but yeah i vibe diversely with each school because they focus on different things! im not about to give a descr of each school but...
my feelings on theravada when i explored it were that it emphasized discipline and quantifiability to a degree that i just couldnt realistically meet. i have a tendency for paralysis by analysis, so even on a good day any insight on a multi life path ends up falling flat in my practice. on the quantifiability front ive always disliked analytically breaking down rebirth ratios and fetter checklists. i dont like entering the stream or returning or escaping it all without developing bodhicitta. like, once i came in touch with bodhicitta it was fucking over.
ideologically speaking ive always been esoterically philosophical but somehow i found my way to the Mūlamadhyamakakārikā and its discursive lineage which kinda drove me away from theravada. those commentaries became too important to my practice for theravadan doctrinal conservatism to dismiss -- the institutions themselves hold true to the fundamental Pali Cannon as the only source for the path, potentially precluding a suffering being from developing wisdom and compassion from great mahayana texts such as the Heart Sutra. like cmon. i also have complaints about various partisan ethnonationalist fronts' equipment of theravadan institutional power. but read on to see just how unique that is.
lesson time: im actually not a vajrayana practitioner for two reasons. 1. my at this point refusal to receive empowerment for tantric practices and 2. my self isolation from any sangha! it was only recently that some lamas and gurus started transmitting lungs over zoom, after all. lineage, initiation, and yoga are what turns a middling sutra practice into higher tantra, but still they both diverge from theravada in that they emphasize emptiness, bodhicitta, and liberation in this life.
so the main distinction between mahayana and vajrayana ime (following tsongkhapa here) is that they play with emptiness differently. vajrayana is sometimes considered a swifter ticket on mahayanas greater vehicle of liberation in one life. the sutra path is a lifetime of study and employment of texts and teachers that mirror absolution, whereas esoteric or tantric paths actively employ them for greater potency and haste.
philosophy tangent the difference lies in the employment of madhyamaka critique. by problematizing the "two truths" our practice stutters and trips -- were forced to recognize that our formulations of the dharma are constrained to samsaras playing field. how far can text and teachings get us when its discernment reinforces our reliance on, for example, the stability of effective communication? or our attachment to text as an object, rather than a true integration? tantra steps past that. by directly communing with a root guru, training in highest yoga tantra offers immediate liberation.
a distinction at play here is one of the main reasons i didnt connect with theravada -- quantifiably measuring rebirth and enlightenment progress. you see, the stability of vajrayana doctrine rests in its institutional enforcement through tulkus. these lineages represent a few things. first, our capacity to come back and keep teaching. second, our ability to parse bodhicitta in this life. and third, our opportunity to commune with dharma in the flesh.
now, the doctrine backs it up, it makes sense and all that, but id like to see a successful, truly liberated tulku for once. one who sees samsara in imperialism and borders, in sexual and gendered forms of domination, in the sanctity of our peaceful sanghas isolated from the unrest outside.
you look me in the eyes and tell me that the myriad lamas who rape, abuse, extort, and control their sangha are enlightened. i dont trust these mfs. and frankly it makes the whole process of lineage reincarnation seem fishy to me.
what it ends up being, in my opinion, is a consolidation of social power in religious institutions. and the recognition of reincarnated masters - my god its all a politics game. tulku heads of state, religious nationalism, theres no absolution there! these are structures upon structures which conceal rampant abuse, opportunistic political alliances, embezzlement, and other exploitative measures that dharma aristocracy dabbles in!
im super anti institutionalized religion, to the point where im constantly interrogating my willingness to engage with buddhism! at what point do spiritual structures stop facilitating the path and start reviving the adversity! if we can recognize that certain vehicles are going to be hindered by karma, why do we act as if any individual is an infallible conduit of the dharma!
phew. didnt realize i wanted to rant today
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thenamesofthings · 3 years
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Artist Unknown. Nāgārjuna, from the series The Eight Patriarchs of Shingon, Kamakura (thirteenth to fourteenth century), Japan.
That there is a self has been taught, And the doctrine of no-self, By the buddhas, as well as the Doctrine of neither self nor nonself.
Everything is real and is not real, Both real and not real, Neither real nor not real. This is Lord Buddha's teaching.
When the fully enlightened ones do not appear, And when the disciples have disappeared, The wisdom of the self-enlightened ones Will arise completely without a teacher.
—Nāgārjuna (c. 2C CE). Mūlamadhyamakakārikā (Fundamental Verses on the Middle Way), excerpts from Ch. XVIII. Trans. and commentary by Jay L. Garfield, 1995.
…There are many discussions of the way to think about the self in the Buddhist canon. For those who are nihilistic about the self (such as contemporary eliminative materialists or classical Indian Cārvākas [an ancient Indian school of materialism]), it is important to explain the conventional reality of the self. For those who tend to reify the self, the doctrine of no-self is taught, that is, the doctrine of the emptiness of the self. But, Nagarjuna claims, as a preamble to the next verse, there is a deeper view of the matter—a doctrine of neither self nor nonself.
That doctrine is closely tied to that of the emptiness of emptiness. Both the terms “self” and “no-self” together with any conceptions that can be associated with them, Nagarjuna claims, are conventional designations. They may each be soteriologically and analytically useful antidotes to extreme metaphysical views and to the disturbances those views occasion. But to neither corresponds an entity—neither a thing that we could ever find on analysis and identify with the self, nor a thing or state that we could identify with no-self. The terms and the properties they designate are themselves empty, despite the fact that they are used to designate emptiness. To say neither self nor no-self is, from this perspective, not to shrug one’s shoulders in indecision but to recognize that while each of these is a useful characterization of the situation for some purposes, neither can be understood as correctly ascribing a property to an independently existent entity. And if they cannot be understood in this way, what are we really saying?
This insight is developed further in this verse. Here Nagarjuna begins to move towards his famous and surprising identification of nirvāṇa with saṃsāra, and of emptiness with conventional reality. This identification of what in earlier Buddhism were regarded as wholly different from one another and this characterization of the mundane in terms heretofore reserved for the putatively transcendent are among Nagarjuna’s most radical and original moves and are central to the development of a distinctively Mahayana outlook. In the first two lines, he reiterates that there are no actual convention-independent entities that correspond to the ostensible referring terms or predicates in our language. But, he argues, from the emptiness of things, it follows that they never either arise or cease. This does not mean that they are permanent, of course. Rather it means that while arising and ceasing and consequent impermanence are features of all conventional phenomena and are among the features that make them empty, from the ultimate point of view, as was argued in Chapter VII, there is no ultimate basis for arising and ceasing. But if nirvāṇa is liberation from cyclic existence and hence from arising and ceasing, it follows that, from the ultimate standpoint, all things in saṃsāra are actually just as they are in nirvāṇa.
This is the positive tetralemma regarding existence. Everything is conventionally real. Everything is ultimately unreal (that is, not unreal in just any sense, but unreal when seen from the ultimate standpoint). Everything has both characteristics—that is, everything is both conventionally real and ultimately unreal. Nothing is ultimately real or completely nonexistent. That is, everything is neither real in one sense nor not-real in another sense…
--Jay L. Garfield
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