#Netflix war for cybertron

[kaycode1999]

Bumblebee is the epitome of “ It’s very important that I am both cute and powerful”-part 10

[blueikeproductions]

So this mystery image from Legacy was floating around:

And people were stumped on what it was or whether it was even official.

FJ DeSanto and Anna Malkova would confirm it’s legit and it was meant to be Straxxus.

Apparently the idea was Straxxus was to be the main bad guy of the proposed Legacy cartoon, and they had a lot of plans for him… but when Netflix passed on the show, Hasbro simply decided Legacy wouldn’t have a story… which explains… a lot.

I was wondering why Legacy was so weird and random with its concepts and “trilogy” if you can even call it that. Hasbro simply not having a story to go with it tracks, but I’m also wondering why they didn’t just make one up anyway. I get the sense Legacy in its first phase was SUPPOSED to, because of the loose theme of harvesting Energon and some of the character choices and gimmicks loosely reflecting it (while not his role in the anime, GF Metroplex mining for Energon for the Autobots tracks if you ask me). But like Earthrise, I guess they quietly ignored any story they had in mind and pressed on.

Going by Straxxus’s final design, I get the sense he was repurposed into Skullgrin and G2 Trooper since the body shape is similar.

But here’s my main problem: Straxxus doesn’t work as a multiversal big bad. He was always nothing more than a violent thug put into a leadership role in the absence of Megatron and Shockwave. His biggest claim to fame beyond that was creating a clone of Megatron he intended to use as his new body after his defeat by Blaster.

I’m assuming his ramshackle appearance for Legacy is intended to be a reference to this, and in fairness to the concept, his major role in the use of the Spacebridge in the Marvel comics probably was meant to tie into his multiversal role for the show…

BUT.

Jhiaxus is a much better fit in this proposed role, and indeed earlier comments about Legacy suggest Jhiaxus was the main villain, described as a Thanos type, alongside Dragon Megatron (who I assume was to be based more on his BM counterpart).

It would frankly make more sense to have Straxxus instead be Jhiaxus’ general leading the Vehicon-esque troopers against the Autobots and Maximals. Sort of the General Klump to Jhiaxus’ King K. Rool.

The other option I can see is Straxxus became a Herald of Unicron, and his role is comparable to ROTB Scourge. Unicron I believe was also supposed to have a role in Legacy as the reason the universes were colliding in the first place. I feel like this would be the most fitting, because I just don’t see Straxxus doing any thing of his own and would need Unicron to nudge him in the right direction.

Just to make sense of the Infernac Universe, I could see Straxxus wanting to access it in hopes it will smelt the multiverse to create a clean slate for himself and his Decepticons. Some fans hypothesize that Infernac may also be the Firespace dimension from Galaxy Force.

And while it doesn’t smelt anything that I’m aware, I’m sure a story could have Straxxus manipulate it as his ultimate smelting pool.

[starimusprime]

If Elita ain't giving OP heart eyes I don't want her

[pocoslip]

I think Transformers Earthspark may just have my Favorite Design for Elita 1 so far and I hope she gets a Better Figure someday

(Deluxe Earthspark Elita One is Fine But I kinda want her to be Voyager Earthrise Starscream or Siege Soundwave Sized too)

[eprime2211]

Decided to do a transformers show tier list. These could change in the future but here's my ranking for now.

[flilisskywalker]

A lot is said about Megaoplita in Earthspark, but oh my god, it would be much more believable as a dramatic arc in the Netflix trilogy because not only they tickled the classic boxes (Optimus and Megatron's rivalry and Optimus and Elita as an item), but for what I believe to be the first time in TF history, we saw that Megatron thinks of Elita more highly than Optimus and that she admired Megatron.

When she asks him to join the Autobots, he is literally flabbergasted. Like... she got to him. It's rare to see in the animated stuff Megatron having moments like this.

[mechaking789]

Computron is voiced by... Matpat? - Transformers Combiner Wars ( I found this on YouTube)

[comicchannel]

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[blueskyscribe]

I truly feel bad for the creatives at Rooster Teeth as the company disbands after all these years.

But as a Transformers fan I'm so relieved they can never do another TF Netflix trilogy

[im-trying-guys]

Made this to torture my sister @lalunestars

maybe you degenerates will like it >:3

[ang-900]

Figured out how Sunstreaker died.

Drawing them in their WFC designs was hard.

[blueikeproductions]

I’ve been going down a weird rabbit hole in TF WFC development, reading interviews and some leaked info from the art book.

Similar to Cyberverse, the show had no real budget to speak of. Apparently Hasbro was especially not in the mood to splurge for both, especially going by recent quarterly reports for that time showing a sharp decrease in sales…

The story being as stapled together as it was is partially owed to Hasbro just blithely giving vague suggestions and ideas on what to do and expecting the writers to make it work. Apparently Beast Wars wasn’t planned from the start, something fans picked up on via toys, and similar to TFP’s Beast Hunters was shoved in much later in development, screwing up the story flow that was being worked on.

At the time, Hasbro insisted on trying to make WFC fit in the canon of the original G1 and Beast Wars cartoon, but clearly someone realized doing so was fruitless, and they worked in a multiverse angle instead because it’s trendy as of typing. (In hindsight it does explain Legacy…). Indeed part of this initial lofty goal explains Earthrise’s original plan. The idea was Earthrise was to take place on modern day Earth, hence the vehicle modes, but because of budget the actual cartoon couldn’t do this (although early plans say the cartoon was supposed to end on modern day Earth), so it pivioted over time into the space adventure TO Earth and the toys similarly made a pivot to match.

A lot of scrapped and repurposed ideas are fascinating and also frustrating. Bumblebee, Elita and Galvatron originally weren’t intended for the show, Alpha Trion was originally supposed to be in Ultra Magnus’ role, Springer was supposed to do a Hi & Die with reinforcements, Spinister and Shockwave are rebuilt into Rotorbolt and Shockblast, and Omega Supreme was to be brainwashed into a Merc by DoubleDealer’s team.

I’m assuming the last one explains the messy storyline of Earthrise, as Deeseus and Scorponok feel incredibly tacked on, and I wonder if the original idea was for Omega Supreme to be used as the “kaiju” attacking the Autobots on the way to the Allspark instead. I like to think Omega’s Rocket Mode would’ve been the Mercs’ ship if so.

Elita and Megatron were originally supposed to have been a couple, and you can kinda see bits of this in-show, but with how things went with her crumbling relationship with Optimus (fans like to joke she basically divorced Prime by staying behind), I don’t think Elita has the best luck with guys…

I’m not really getting the logic of Spinister and Shockwave being rebuilt either. Neither were particularly standout characters, and in Shockwave’s case, what was he supposed to do in an arctic fallout? Just have the last laugh he lived instead of Elita while he cozies up with some cocoa? The final show seems to imply everyone on Cybertron is dead at that point, so unless Shockwave had the means to revive other Decepticons to join him in ice skating I’m not sure where that was supposed to go. They do say, prior to body reconstruction, Shockwave’s mind lived on in Cybertronic computers, but with Cybertron functionally dead I don’t know how that would’ve made a difference.

Another cut concept that I’m … not sure how this would’ve gone, was the Ark landing on a planet populated by spider Transformers. I’m assuming they would’ve been Every Color Blackarachnias because Tarantulus didn’t come out until Legacy, and depending on how literal this is, it opens the possibility to be also populated by Every Color Scorponoks (both of them). Apparently the Autobots refuel here so I’m guessing it was a friendly colony… Though friendliness denotes an emotion WFC isn’t capable of so more than likely the Autobots probably had to defend themselves from territorial Arachnicons…

While not said that I’m aware, it’s possible this was somewhat adapted into G1 Scorponok, being the last of a population of arachnid themed Transformers from another planet that was wiped out by the Quintessons.

A curious detail is the bones of WFC were partly born from scrapped projects, in particular some of the bones are from an early incarnation of the fabled animated prequel movie set on Cybertron that’s still coming guys, we mean it…! I … kinda wonder if we dodged a bullet to some extent, but we’ll find out 2024 (maybe).

Some Word of God that stuck out…

The reason most of the cast didn’t Transform is because they lack the proper physiology to contort into vehicles…Bumblebee’s UFO mode was denied immediately for reasons I assume was both aforementioned budget and probably because someone thought it looked dorky for their Very Adult War Show TM. The fact most of the cast were basically Action Masters is kinda depressing since the Battlemasters (kinda the MAIN play gimmick) were denied being in the show. I can’t help but feel Elita would be a cat person and be partnered with a Lionizer while Bumblebee has the pterodactyl or the minotaur as part of his Energon scouting days… Still the lack of Transforming is irksome, and it explains the peculiar design of Elita who just looks like she has random car parts bolted on her back…

G1 Scorponok apparently went back to his home planet after the Space Bridge incident, a planet named Pastel apparently. BW Scorponok apparently was second in command of the Predacons and was the basis for the clones that filled out the Predacons for lack of soldiers. Considering he barely appeared, the need of troopers is… dubious in practice. A side tangent, but I like to think Waspinator was in the show and was all cloned for air support, but as always the universe hates Waspinator and and his clones eventually died prior to Kingdom. Apparently the real reason Waspy wasn’t in the show was it was simply too late to include him. Certainly better than my assumption he was just to funny to be in the Serious Adult Show.

Alpha Trion is indeed one of the Primes and was leader of Cybertron prior to his murder. None of this is said in show, and it raises a question if Alpha Trion was just happy to let inequality happen if Megatron saw reason to kill him despite the show suggesting he was wise and kind but not without a fierce side as demonstrated with Sky Lynx.

Dark Energon exists and Galvatron runs on the stuff. I suspect this is part of Hasbro’s idea flinging but it ultimately was unused. Even under other circumstances I have no idea how Dark Energon would work or make sense here. Even TFPrime just kinda shrugged and gave up on it after a point.

Suffice to say, those involved were not pleased with the final product. The producers have a bitter account of things, and I’m guessing Netflix didn’t like it either as they passed on a Legacy sequel. Hasbro WAS onboard with it, so it’s possible a Legacy cartoon may happen at some point, possibly Paramount+ since they kinda need the content… Though I shudder to think what such a show would be. Beast fans weren’t happy with Kingdom, and Prime fans sure as sugar will riot if Knockout, Bulkhead and Arcee are handled poorly (and unless Hasbro throws money at it, I guarantee they will be). Legacy in general feels like Hasbro just throwing wild ideas out with no cohesion or direction like they did for WFC’s show, so I can’t imagine the Legacy show being anything but incoherent rambling…

I mean my own idea was Armada Optimus and Unspecified Comic Book Universe Tarn leading their own patch work teams to protect/conquer the multiverse but I’m sure that wouldn’t fly for someone…

[beastwars-transformers]

G1 fans when something is slightly changed to serve a story

[pocoslip]

Can I just Buy Soundwave ONLY and WITHOUT Shockwave and Megatron PLEASE!!!!

(because i already have siege shockwave and megatron and i really don't wanna get them again)

[nuclearjacks]

The Doc, I Love You zine has just released- so here’s my piece I did for it!

Please go give this zine some love! It’s a free PDF so anyone can download it!😁