#STUDY / Patroclus

[wolfythewitch]

My thoughts on the champion!Patroclus au are so disorganized I have not slept, but know that the main reason for its existence is that fictional men are infinitely more attractive when sweaty and covered in blood

[doloneia]

we need to abolish the idea that ancient greek myths and legend have a coherent timeline. they do not. for any given myth there are like 10 heroes mentioned that feasibly could not have been adults or even alive. herakles keeps showing up in places where he should probably be dead. anyone could be a suitor of helen. even herakles. even theseus if you count that kidnapping stint he did. nestor is alive for 10 billion years. time is fake and anything beyond vague generational outlines is conjecture

[solarfire-art]

I always had this vision of Achilles in the style of Alexandre Cabanel’s The Fallen Angel, holding Patroclus’ body in grief and rage. So I sketched it because it is way above my skill level atm but I had to get it out of my head 😅

[papaya-140]

Waiting for a Trojan War retelling about Patrochilles but it’s different…

…but honestly I’m just putting down an AU at this point

Patroclus, kindest of the Acheans, feels sympathy for the captured Trojan women like in Silence of the Girls.

Patroclus, who acts as Achilles’ compassionate mentor (since he’s 1-2 years older), because King Peleus wants to balance his Achilles’ impulsive nature with Patroclus’ gentle patience

But! Patroclus’ heart is breaking because of Achilles’ period accurate misogyny. Achilles emulates the other men in their behaviors, causing their relationship to fracture in their heated arguments on treating women like property or people

Patroclus remembers their childhood and growing up together, and wonders where on earth is the boy that would do anything for him?

Where’s the charming boy that would make him laugh?

The boy that he taught the importance of kindness and compassion to?

He looks deeper, and to his horror, it’s the small slivers of light that pop up in the dark war monster that Achilles has become.

The way he looks at him. The way he gently wipes the blood off of Patroclus’ armor. The way he holds his hand during an anxiety attack after returning from the battlefield. The way he stays for him.

How could this be the same man? he wonders. Wrathful and horrifying Achilles, both kind and gentle.

Patroclus pines for the good old days, à la Song of Achilles, but he cannot ignore Achilles’ war crimes and treatment towards women.

Neither can Patroclus ignore the blood he has shed as a warrior and as Achilles’ second in command.

He doesn’t even realize his own actions- participating in keeping captured Trojan women (in his attempts to save them from other men)- still perpetuate a cruel systemic practice of enslaving women. Patroclus still remembers stopping Briseis from mourning her dead family.

He remembers the look on her face.

It tears him apart.

Patroclus just wants the past back. But war says otherwise, and shows him the worst sides of men and the worst of Achilles. And worst of all…

It shows the worst in him.

Just… morally grey Patroclus, my beloved!

Can I see this in a retelling for once?!

[julesart04]

Just a little Patrochilles thing ✨

[spineless-lobster]

Rip aeschylus you would’ve loved take me to church by hozier

Source: “Achilles in Love: Politics and Desire in Aeschylus’ Myrmidons” by David D. Leitao

[linipik]

"RISK IT ALL" - "FEAR IS FOR THE WEAK"

from my Hades Huevember

[kimherbst]

Been reading more so I finally got around to The Song of Achilles. Color practice for me, plus a looming Thetis in the background. 😢

[dl4draws]

wanted to see them side by side

[friedmagazinebouquet]

I am so willing to talk about Patroclus and Achilles in any context whatsoever at literally any chance I get

Friends, lovers, something completely outside or in between the two?? Heck yeah, pull up a chair and let's discuss the LADS

[dragmetohades]

Big ol’ sketch dump ✌️I have so many WIPs and not a lot of time to finish anything, but doing my best 😊

(Really proud of the Fenris one though asdf 😍)

[hllziepop]

This and this and this

[myblacknightworld]

Am thinking about giving Menelaus a french horn and Helen a flute. Also thinking about how Agamemnon is definitely a tuba, Achilles is a trumpet, Odysseus is a trombone (although he could also be a bassoon), Patroclus is a cornet, and Diomedes is an oboe idkkkk I was just thinking about how horn and flute are very complementary while also thinking about Menelaus and Helen (and I say this as a flutist who's now studying the horn too) and just. This came to me as a vision while waiting for my flute teacher

[introspectivememories]

YELLING OVER YOUR LATEST POST. NOT ONLY DO I HAVE A MASSIVE JJK HYPERFIXATION BUT I LITERALLY STUDY CLASSICS ABSVSBSNSJDJSS. I am the exact audience for this I am so in love with it you have no idea 😭😭 How do you manage to hit me every time omg

AJ!!!!! YOU STUDY CLASSICS???? INCREDIBLE

also i wanted to originally make it closer to canon. so the roles would be switched. nanami, who leaves the jujutsu world (ithaca) and goes on a long treacherous (capitalism) journey (the odyssey) only to find his way back to the jujutsu world/gojo (penelope) and when he's back he meets yuji (telemachus).

the slaying of the suitors can be when yuji and nanami beat the shit out of mahito. does this work? idk, you tell me. but the idea of gojo being odysseus and nanami being penelope waiting back home tricking his suitors was infinitely more enticing than the canon-sompliant version.

also the odyssey!nng fic is being written!!! do you want to read it????

anyway, you can't be in love with me bc im in love with you!!! my family is sick of hearing about the timbern drawing you did for the veil!au. i love you always aj <33333

[supernova3space]

Greatest of the Greeks, grieving

Let me lie down with you one last time

On our bed of firewood and oil

Let the flames of your pyre consume me

Before the inferno in my chest reduces me to ash

Cast aside the laws of the Immortals

What good have they ever brought us, my love?

Your restless soul was void of peace

And now it will never know it, will it, dove?

Your breath was my music and now

Where has it gone, my sunlight?

Your eyes would dance, I lived in them

Won't they look again at me, my flame bright?

Did he make you cry in pain

As he brought upon your end

An end meant for me, my North Star?

Had I destroyed my own world when I sent you away?

As your blood baptized the ground on which you lay

I kindled my soul as firewood for your pyre

I gave you my heart and now,

It burns with you, what do I have left now?

[cantpickafandomtbh]

so i’m learning classics in school and my teacher is amazing

we’re learning about Achillies and Patroclus and when someone called them ‘best friends’ he turned around and said ‘Guys, they were boyfriends, let’s just accept it. They were boyfriends.’