#Tlön

[fieriframes]

[Contact with Tlön, the habit of Tlön, has disintegrated this world.]

[carcrash-white]

Does anyone know why Mario Ambrosini tells Goncharov that he was "...born in Tlön..." when they first meet? Is this a place in Italy/Europe or like a Mafioso thing?

It says he was born there on the fan wiki and I thought it was a mistake, but it directly references how it was written in the script. Tlön!?

[totallyuncool01]

I think that we need to start talking about the conceptual/metaphysical debt that Goncharov (1973) owes to the privately-published and often-banned underground play, The King in Yellow (1895). Scorsese was never really upfront about the connection, but it's there. (And in the opinion of some critics, it's more than just there - after all, Guffleblarge famously said in his now-hard-to-find analysis in Le Cinephage that "Goncharov is no less than a holographic projection of The King in Yellow onto an unstable surface in 5-D spacetime, a surface which allows the full story to reveal itself to us like a great and writhing flower of madness.")

[mixelation]

(looks up world building on shyriiwook, the Wookiee language) there’s not a lot soooo….

(Takes long drag on candy cigarette) what if there’s no nouns in shyriiwook

[bracketsoffear]

Fibble (Dale E. Basye) "When Marlo Fauster claims she has switched souls with her brother, she gets sent straight to Fibble, the circle of Heck reserved for liars. But it’s true—Milton and Marlo have switched places, and Marlo finds herself trapped in Milton’s gross, gangly body. She also finds herself trapped in Fibble, a three-ring media circus run by none other than P. T. Barnum, an insane ringmaster with grandiose plans and giant, flaming pants. Meanwhile Milton, as Marlo, is working at the devil’s new television network, T.H.E.E.N.D. But there’s something strange about these new shows. Why do they all air at the same time? And are they really broadcasting to the Surface? Soon Milton and Marlo realize that they need each other to sort through the lies and possibly prevent the end of the world—if Bea “Elsa” Bubb doesn’t catch them first.

The Fauster twins are caught up in yet another apocalyptic scheme as hellish figures plot to stoke a ratings war into a holy war, using elaborate lies and propaganda to provoke the end of humanity itself."

Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius (Jorge Luis Borges) "A short story concerning the author and his friend stumbling upon a mention of the Uqbar region in an encyclopedia, a place which is found in no other literature. One of the myths of Uqbar concerns Tlön, a fantastical place where people do not believe in the reality of the material world, and only the most outre scholars would dare suggest that objects have permanence. Objects there "grow vague or sketchy and lose detail" when they begin to be forgotten, culminating in their disappearance when they are completely forgotten. One year later, Tlönian objects begin to appear in the real world. Then a complete encyclopedia of the world turns up, transforming the human understanding of science and philosophy. As the author writes his postscript, the world is transforming entirely into Tlön."

[thirdity]

The metaphysicians of Tlön do not seek for truth or even for verisimilitude, but rather for the astounding. They judge that metaphysics is a branch of fantastic literature. They know that a system is nothing more than the subordination of all aspects of the universe to any one such aspect.

Jorge Luis Borges, "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius"

[gbfmi1]

rip jorge luis borges you would've loved tumblr collectively manifesting Goncharov into being

[mbharestuff]

In "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius," my favorite Borges story, an encyclopedia entry on a country that does not exist kickstarts a slow remolding of the very rules of reality until that formerly imaginary country--and the world it resided in--overwrites our own.

anyway I cannot WAIT to see Goncharov! 😌

[andromerot]

look its not just about making up a fake movie for the fuck of it okay we are participating in a literary tradition

[laughingpinecone]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Tlön Uqbar Orbis Tertius - Jorge Luis Borges Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Additional Tags: Worldbuilding, POV First Person, Museums, Far Future, Recursive Hrönir, Reality Layers Like Mille-Feuille, the phoenix is like a little baby watch this, Surreal, cycles Summary:

A hrön of a hrön of a hrön and eight times more, found in the ur of an ur of an ur and so on and on until this idea at last scuttles off in an inferno of reason.

Yuletide treat for stickpenalties! Tackling Borges is always its own challenge, this was lots of fun to hammer into shape.

[fieriframes]

[Contact and the habit of Tlön have disintegrated this world.]

[phoebebarton]

now imagine the potentially world-shaking consequences of Tumblr finding a copy of the Anglo-American Cyclopedia or even one volume of the First Encyclopedia of Tlön

[stickpenalties]

this is how the goncharovposting makes me feel

[aurpiment]

Gonchposters’ reading list:

If on a winter’s night a traveler (Calvino)

Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius (Borges)

Pierre Menard Author of the Quixote (Borges)

The Hydraulic Emperor (Martine)

The King in Yellow (Chambers)

(This list is incomplete. You can help by expanding it)

[bracketsoffear]

Harrow the Ninth (Tamsyn Muir) "Harrow the Ninth is, above all, really fucking confusing. Roughly every third chapter is actively gaslighting the reader about what happened in the last book. The main character is fucking struggling to maintain any sort of grip on reality all throughout the story, and more often than not, she fails miserably. This is due to several factors, including, but not limited to - sleep deprivation, latent schizophrenia, ruthless emotional manipulation from everyone around her, being full of a frankly alarming number of ghosts from several entirely unrelated sources, childhood parental and religious trauma, and a self-inflicted amateur lobotomy."

Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius (Jorge Luis Borges) "A short story concerning the author and his friend stumbling upon a mention of the Uqbar region in an encyclopedia, a place which is found in no other literature. One of the myths of Uqbar concerns Tlön, a fantastical place where people do not believe in the reality of the material world, and only the most outre scholars would dare suggest that objects have permanence. Objects there "grow vague or sketchy and lose detail" when they begin to be forgotten, culminating in their disappearance when they are completely forgotten. One year later, Tlönian objects begin to appear in the real world. Then a complete encyclopedia of the world turns up, transforming the human understanding of science and philosophy. As the author writes his postscript, the world is transforming entirely into Tlön."

[ladyvelkor]

aparently being a Borges fan also is like not a universal trait? and like noone I talk to about him ever knows who tf he is? like what. its Borges. my friend Borges. how do you not know Tlön Uqbar Orbis Tertius? Not even the library of Babel? like. its not just me that thinks it's weird for ppl to not be familiar right. like?