#tlön

[fashionlandscapeblog]

How could one do other than submit to Tlön, to the minute and vast evidence of an orderly planet? It is useless to answer that reality is also orderly. Perhaps it is, but in accordance with divine law - I translate: inhuman laws-which we never quite grasp. Tlön is surely a labyrinth, but it is a labyrinth devised by men, a labyrinth destined to be deciphered by men.

The contact and the habit of Tlön have disintegrated this world. Enchanted by its rigor, humanity forgets over and again that it is a rigor of chess masters, not of angels. Already the schools have been invaded by the (conjectural) "primitive language" of Tlön; already the teaching of its harmonious history (filled with moving episodes) has wiped out the one which governed in my childhood; already a fictitious past occupies in our memories the place of another, a past of which we know nothing with certainty-not even that it is false.

― Jorge Luis Borges, Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius, 1940

[fieriframes]

[Contact with Tlön, the habit of Tlön, has disintegrated this world.]

[carcrash-white]

Does anyone know why Mario Ambrosini tells Goncharov that he was "...born in Tlön..." when they first meet? Is this a place in Italy/Europe or like a Mafioso thing?

It says he was born there on the fan wiki and I thought it was a mistake, but it directly references how it was written in the script. Tlön!?

[totallyuncool01]

I think that we need to start talking about the conceptual/metaphysical debt that Goncharov (1973) owes to the privately-published and often-banned underground play, The King in Yellow (1895). Scorsese was never really upfront about the connection, but it's there. (And in the opinion of some critics, it's more than just there - after all, Guffleblarge famously said in his now-hard-to-find analysis in Le Cinephage that "Goncharov is no less than a holographic projection of The King in Yellow onto an unstable surface in 5-D spacetime, a surface which allows the full story to reveal itself to us like a great and writhing flower of madness.")

[mixelation]

(looks up world building on shyriiwook, the Wookiee language) there’s not a lot soooo….

(Takes long drag on candy cigarette) what if there’s no nouns in shyriiwook

[gbfmi1]

rip jorge luis borges you would've loved tumblr collectively manifesting Goncharov into being

[bracketsoffear]

Fibble (Dale E. Basye) "When Marlo Fauster claims she has switched souls with her brother, she gets sent straight to Fibble, the circle of Heck reserved for liars. But it’s true—Milton and Marlo have switched places, and Marlo finds herself trapped in Milton’s gross, gangly body. She also finds herself trapped in Fibble, a three-ring media circus run by none other than P. T. Barnum, an insane ringmaster with grandiose plans and giant, flaming pants. Meanwhile Milton, as Marlo, is working at the devil’s new television network, T.H.E.E.N.D. But there’s something strange about these new shows. Why do they all air at the same time? And are they really broadcasting to the Surface? Soon Milton and Marlo realize that they need each other to sort through the lies and possibly prevent the end of the world—if Bea “Elsa” Bubb doesn’t catch them first.

The Fauster twins are caught up in yet another apocalyptic scheme as hellish figures plot to stoke a ratings war into a holy war, using elaborate lies and propaganda to provoke the end of humanity itself."

Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius (Jorge Luis Borges) "A short story concerning the author and his friend stumbling upon a mention of the Uqbar region in an encyclopedia, a place which is found in no other literature. One of the myths of Uqbar concerns Tlön, a fantastical place where people do not believe in the reality of the material world, and only the most outre scholars would dare suggest that objects have permanence. Objects there "grow vague or sketchy and lose detail" when they begin to be forgotten, culminating in their disappearance when they are completely forgotten. One year later, Tlönian objects begin to appear in the real world. Then a complete encyclopedia of the world turns up, transforming the human understanding of science and philosophy. As the author writes his postscript, the world is transforming entirely into Tlön."

[thirdity]

The metaphysicians of Tlön do not seek for truth or even for verisimilitude, but rather for the astounding. They judge that metaphysics is a branch of fantastic literature. They know that a system is nothing more than the subordination of all aspects of the universe to any one such aspect.

Jorge Luis Borges, "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius"

[mbharestuff]

In "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius," my favorite Borges story, an encyclopedia entry on a country that does not exist kickstarts a slow remolding of the very rules of reality until that formerly imaginary country--and the world it resided in--overwrites our own.

anyway I cannot WAIT to see Goncharov! 😌

[andromerot]

look its not just about making up a fake movie for the fuck of it okay we are participating in a literary tradition

[phoebebarton]

now imagine the potentially world-shaking consequences of Tumblr finding a copy of the Anglo-American Cyclopedia or even one volume of the First Encyclopedia of Tlön

[fieriframes]

[Contact and the habit of Tlön have disintegrated this world.]

[laughingpinecone]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Tlön Uqbar Orbis Tertius - Jorge Luis Borges Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Additional Tags: Worldbuilding, POV First Person, Museums, Far Future, Recursive Hrönir, Reality Layers Like Mille-Feuille, the phoenix is like a little baby watch this, Surreal, cycles Summary:

A hrön of a hrön of a hrön and eight times more, found in the ur of an ur of an ur and so on and on until this idea at last scuttles off in an inferno of reason.

Yuletide treat for stickpenalties! Tackling Borges is always its own challenge, this was lots of fun to hammer into shape.

[stickpenalties]

this is how the goncharovposting makes me feel

[younes-ben-amara]

فلوبير للكاتب موباسان: “ليست الموهبة إلا صبرًا جميلًا! قُمْ للعمل!"

[jadedresearcher]

Although it seems anachronistic for Zampanio to be based entirely on House of Leaves, I believe it's likely that the two share significant amounts of DNA through having similar influences. The mutual focus on labyrinths is very reminiscent of Borges, especially in Ficciones, and I think that you can make an argument for Zampanio as a modern Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius.

Reading the wiki on the last one:

I really do think you're onto something. That entire idea, that being forgotten is deathdestruction shows up a lot in the various Zampanio branches I've seen.

Which is, you know, ironic, given how often the fandom before me seemed dedicated to making damn sure everything got forgotten.