#Vega’s shit show

[callmegodorvega]

I’m rereading PJO because the new series is coming out on Disney + and I wanted to refresh my memory and I was thinking about Percy earlier and how this kid has so much nerve, like the audacity this kid has, dueling a GOD, the god of war no less. And the way he can almost never keep his mouth shut. Always making silent remarks, making enemies out of being you do not want to make enemies out of. Like, wtf? Idk if this is bravery or stupidity? Probably a bit of both, and that got me thinking, you know who this loudmouth, sassy, sarcastic little shit reminds me of???

Guess.

Neil Fucking Josten.

Oh my gods.

Like.

I remember when I first read aftg, I thought, “huh this Neil kid reminds me of someone” and I could never figure out who, now I know, it’s PERCY JACKSON

They are the SAME character in a different font.

The sassiness? The sarcasm? The nerve? The impulsiveness? The recklessness? The bravery? The stupidity? The quick thinking? The inability to keep their mouth shut? The undying personal loyalty??? To the point it’s a fault????

Even the inner monologues are similar.

No wonder I’m so attached to both of them.

Anyway, just wanted to share my thoughts

Thank you, and goodnight

[yujeong]

Me being totally normal: I can surely figure out what page he's at if I stare at it for too long

Also me, staring at it for too long: Wait...is he reading....the foreword...? I can't believe it took me this long to realize Vegas is reading the first page here. It might not even be the foreword, it might be info about the author, it's so funny. But don't worry, the good news is that he's actually reading the book in this scene:

which, of course, you can make the claim that beforehand, he was not in a good mental state (Vegas? not being mentally well? No fucking way right?) so he was trying to distract himself from whatever the fuck the whole thing he's doing at the safehouse is, but after him and Pete talk and bond and all of that good stuff, his mind can focus and actually read the damn book. Sidenote Because I'm a bit insane and very committed in finding things to obsess over with my hyperfixations, I estimated the possible percentage of the book he might be currently at, then went to the appropriate page and found this line there: "He felt very gay and light-headed, and quite forty years younger, as he walked to the door."

I swear to God, it was there, and I laughed so hard they must have heard me over in Thailand.

[a-really-bad-decision]

I don’t really give two wet farts in a hurricane about the fallout show or what it means for new vegas and west coast lore, but I do largely agree that bethesda deciding to nuke shady sands is indicative of their lazy writing habits and inability to engage with the structural critiques found in the source material. And I don't really think "well the ncr was close to collapsing anyways" is a valid answer to that criticism either.

Like. Fundamentally I don’t have any issues with the ncr being in shambles. Maybe the timeline is a bit more accelerated than I’d like, but we all know the ncr was already in trouble when we saw it in new vegas. They were corrupt (both abroad and at home), overextended, teetering on bankruptcy, and facing a food shortage in the coming decades. Not only was the writing on the wall, but the ncr as a faction was a blatant, textual reflection of america, both in universe and out: it's innate imperialist tendencies, it's unceasing, unsustainable consumption of natural resources, the problems inherent in viewing itself as a "civilizing force", etc. etc. etc. And I think for those criticisms to have any bite, the ncr needs to fall, (or change, or course correct). Otherwise, it goes against the entire thesis that new vegas was putting forth about retreading the mistakes of the old world. The game isn't subtle about this, and replaying it in 2024 really only drives those points home further.

But the show didn't do that. It didn't engage in any of what new vegas was trying to say with the ncr's storyline. And it wasn't like there were no satisfactory ways they could have explored the ncr's weakening or collapse either. Hell, in an ideal world, they'd have even gone about it realistically, and acknowledged that the fall of a nation is rarely due to any one problem, but rather a myriad of factors slowly gumming up the mechanisms in tandem until the system can no longer sustain itself.

Instead, they decided to nuke the capital of the ncr and call it a day, because... well I can't say for sure. I wasn't in the writer's room.

Maybe it's because the ncr’s problems are an intentional mirror of America’s problems, and bethesda as a company isn’t willing to engage with that at the risk of alienating the viewers and/or shareholders. Maybe they thought a realistic exploration of the ncr's shortcomings would be boring, compared the flash of nuclear destruction. Maybe they just genuinely thought it was an interesting way to dispose of the faction.

But I think claiming that anyone who take issue with how the show handled the ncr are frothing new vegas apologists who're unable to handle the changes being made to their precious, perfect, canon is kinda disingenuous. Change is inevitable - that's a rather important theme the game touches on. But if bethesda is going to make those changes, they should actually put some thought into what the original lore was saying, and how the changes they're implementing improve or comment on it, that's all.

[dykedvonte]

Also show Mr. House looks like a raging homosexual and smokes that cigarette like he’s what the British call cigs too.

[moosenaround2448]

so many people picking up og fallouts for the first time are about to get their shit kicked in

[dilemmaontwolegs]

If that isn’t an omen for the Vegas GP, I don’t know what is…

[bisexualnonsense]

is this anything

[callmegodorvega]

Surprise

Tada!

[callmewisteria]

mspaint is for making shitty fallout edits

[f1-birb]

This just isn't fair to anyone.

It's not fair to the fans who paid to see two practice sessions and only got 10 minutes.

It's not fair to the drivers who are probably now questioning the safety of the track, and it's not fair for their prep, the physical toll of needing to keep warm and muscles working because it's cold, on a track they don't know and in conditions everyone will be wary of because they know the mechanics of it all. And then they'll have to stay up even longer for debriefs and meetings and hopped up from adrenaline.

Then on top of that, you've got the mechanics and crew who have to sort stuff by the curfew they've been given so that they can open up the road for regular access again.

Chris Medland said it right with "Shambolic."

[arnold-layne]

fallout community, i need your help. do you have any recommendation on english books on the lore of the franchise/stories within the world? maybe some popular fanfics (not fallout equestria, unfortunately)? preferably in english

[a-really-bad-decision]

Anyways the fallout show is a million times funnier if you remember that ten years ago this part of the setting was like. Regular ass people. The NCR was supposed to be a fairly normal and recognizable country by today’s standard. They had offices and factories and election campaigns and taxes and shit.

Which just goes to show that the real message of fallout is that your average American is five years of lawlessness away from dressing in leathers and trying to chew our neighbors face off in the ruins of a Walmart parking lot

[stariightjoyy]

Again Oscar being such an angel 🥹 he did so well on his race. So did Lando. I hope Lando is safe and have no severe injuries.

Oscar's radio from the McLaren app

[randomsufff]

JUST WATCHED THE ENTIRE FALLOUT SHOW IN ONE SITTING AND I GET TO THE END AND THEY STRAIGHT UP SHOW NEW VEGAS?!!?????

IM GENUINELY TWEAKING AND LOSING MY MIND WHAT!!!!! THE END CARD WITH THE LUCKY 38??? THE TOPS??? ALL THE SECURITRONS???

Maybe other people knew this- maybe it was said somewhere they were gonna do New Vegas stuff- but I went in totally blind and had like 0 expectations that this show was going to directly reference another game.

Like I straight up though this show would stick to its own thing since it didn’t seem like it was adapting any part of the previous games.

SO WHEN I TELL YOU I SCREAMED WHEN NEW VEGAS POPPED UP-

Im not a devout follower of the Fallout Timeline lore- so all this talk about the show retconning NV makes no sense to me and I don’t care about it- ITS NEW VEGAS!!!! WITH THE COOL CASINOS AND MR HOUSE AND STUFF!!! ALL GOING TO BE SHOWN IRL IF WE GET ANOTHER SEASON!!! WHY IS NO ONE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS!!!