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scribe-of-hael · 9 months
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My contribution to the Comfort character meme ❤💙
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blushinggoku · 8 months
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Been watching some dbs related videos and I'm sosoo glad I gave up on that anime because oh my god the story gets worse with every arc. Wtf are they even doing anymore
#watched a vid summarizing the granolah arc and literally genuinely what was that#my favorite part was when frieza showed up outta nowhere with a new form he'd cultivated#in a alternate dimension that distorts time in a similar way that the room of space and time does#proceeded to one hit kill the big bad of the week. knock out goku and vegeta for shits and giggles and then dip#hilarious#but it was meant to be totally serious and to show that frieza's totallyyyy a threat again guys for real lets goo round 3#and that was literally the most interesting part of the arc#Im so mad about the fucking bardock retcon#but not about the hypothetical wish he made. I remember reading somewhere that the English translation of the manga was incorrect#and ik a lot of people argue that the wish he made just retconned the whole message of dragon ball#but thats based on the English version of the manga#also speaking of bardock and retcons related to him Im still livid over the fact that they changed goku's origin story#to be an almost exact ripoff of superman's#and they retconned the start of the saiyan arc with that too#radirz said goku was sent to earth to destroy it as a baby. but now goku was sent to earth on purpose to save his life?#bullshit. I call bullshit#man Im sorry that most of my original posts so far have related to me bitching about Super#I want to engage with dragon ball contentbso bad but how can I when mostly everything is about Super now?#can't even read a good fanfic without goku's character being bastardized and infantalized the way it is in Super#literally fouvd my dream fic the other day but it got ruined 12 chapters in because the writer had started watching super#and completely changed the plit of the fic and goku's character to fit into the world where super resides and it made me want to eat glass#I will be more funny and talk about better dbz related stuff soon I prommy <3#star scrambles
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hightro · 2 years
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I wish someone would make an AU where the SSJ4 form is the default form for Saiyans. Oh how I wish.
YOU AND ME BOTH!!! id give anything for them to even just get their tails back permanently canonically 😔
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leftpostwerewolf · 2 years
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zongoku · 1 year
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realistically i know super saiyan god/blue is the canon and more powerful transformation but i still wanna include super saiyan 4 because i love its design so much
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tobiasdrake · 5 months
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Which DBZ antagonist do you like the most?
Boring opinion, I know, but I gotta give it up for the Obvious Choice.
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And I'm not just saying that because I haven't had a chance to talk about him yet.
Frieza runs a real estate empire that carries out genocidal acts of gentrification, purging tracts of land of their native inhabitants so he can sell their land for profit. Commenting on this choice for his ultimate villain, Akira Toriyama stated that he made this decision because real estate speculators are the worst people there are.
Fucking based.
From the moment we meet Frieza, he is a monster. Toriyama likes this Big Guy Little Guy dynamic where the Little Guy is the one you really need to watch out for. Frieza is the Littlest Guy ever.
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He's so tiny. And yet you know exactly who the most dangerous person in this group is. Zero question.
By the end of this altercation, Frieza reveals one of his signature attacks, giving us our first glimpse of the kind of person and the kind of fighter he is. This is such an important moment for his character and I'm kinda mad that the anime had Dodoria do it instead.
Muri destroys the Scouters and blinds Frieza. I've talked before at length about the devastating impact that this move and the Namekian warriors' attack has on Frieza's campaign.
But once it's done, he has to face the music. He's not getting out of this alive.
In one last desperation play, Muri tells Cargo and Dende to run while blocking them with his body. And that's when it happens.
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This is Frieza.
Specifically, this is Frieza's Death Beam. It's never actually given a name, but is generally referred to as Death Beam. We've seen a move like this only once before.
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The Dodonpa, signature technique of Tsuru-senryu, first introduced by the assassin Taopaipai, was built for extreme lethality. This is not a technique for fighting; It's a technique for killing.
What makes Frieza's Death Beam stand out from the Dodonpa, however, is its accuracy and its speed. He threads the needle around Muri to hit Cargo before anyone even has a chance to react.
We see its accuracy and speed again six days later, when it finally catches up to the other child fleeing from him here.
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The panelwork here calling attention to everyone's reactions as Frieza's ki bullet shoots past them, as his shot threads the needle between all obstacles in his path to strike his target far behind them. Dende is dead before anyone can even process that Frieza fired.
This is the difference between the two techniques. The Dodonpa is a gun. The Death Beam is a sniper rifle. Faced with the physical hurdle of bodies impeding his path, Frieza point-clicked Cargo and Dende to death.
He later executes Vegeta this same way.
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Done with you.
All of this context for Frieza's sniping shot serves to set up the stunning subversion when Goku arrives to fight.
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Frieza's never seen this before. Goku shouldn't even be able to see the shots coming until they've perforated his lungs. That's how Death Beam works. It's this moment that lays it out: Frieza's about to be tested like he's never been tested before.
Speaking of cool techniques, I've always been partial to this move from his Third Form.
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The anime gives Frieza little ki bullets coming out of his fingers but I want to note that we never see a physical projectile when he's doing this. Frieza jams his fingers back and forth in the air while something pulverizes Piccolo.
I've always imagined he's poking the air so fast that it's hitting Piccolo with pressurized air currents. Similar to Goku's Mazoku air current punch from the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai.
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But that's just me.
In any case, Frieza's got some fun moves. He's something of a hobbyist martial artist. Which is to say, Frieza has an interest in martial arts. In addition to his Death Beam, Frieza's concocted a litany of other interesting techniques.
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He even invented the Kienzan, independently of Krillin.
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Though he can remote operate his Kienzan so it's strictly better than Krillin's. Frieza, in his spare time, has come up with a bunch of cool moves. Too bad he has no idea how to use them.
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Frieza's greatest weakness is his inexperience. He practices martial arts the way a business CEO who bought a log splitter so he can cut some wood and feel woodsy practices agriculture. Frieza has never had a proper chance to truly experience martial arts, because he was born too powerful.
The only partner who's ever even dirtied his skin was his dad.
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And even that isn't much. Frieza's too strong. He wants to pursue martial arts. He wants to hone his technique. But when you win every fight by blinking too hard in the opponent's direction, what even is there to practice?
Frieza created a transformation to seal away his immeasurable ki because he was born with so much ki flowing from him that he can't even contain it. At his peak, Frieza's ki bleeds out of him. He simply can't contain it.
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Goku wonders aloud why Frieza took so long, even after the fight turned against him, to go to 100%. Frieza's been all "Oh I'm only using 10% power this is my 50% you made me go to 75%" and Goku's like, "Okay. My dude. What's this about, for real?
This, incidentally, is not a great translation. What Goku's saying here is supposed to be basically, "Perhaps when you use your full power, your body can't handle it."
He is correct.
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Frieza's Full Power has a lot in common with Super Saiyan 3. His theoretical maximum ability is wildly different from the reality of what he's capable of, because he bleeds ki like it's going out of style.
So, while other characters wound up earning transformations that make them more powerful, Frieza created a transformation to seal away some of his incomprehensible ki.
Then he created a couple more because even though he could now control his strength and even manipulate the amount of ki he's releasing at a time, he was still too powerful for anyone to ever compete with and needed even more ki sealed away.
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Again, not a fantastic translation from the people who brought us "bottom-tier boy", as Frieza's statement here could be interpreted as saying that he gets taken by a berserker rage or something.
What he's saying is more like, "My power is so great that I can't properly contain it."
Point is, Frieza transformed to lock down his ki and seal parts of it away, so he could control the rest better. Then he kept going, locking away more and more and more of his ki. And even at his most nerfed, he's still five times more powerful than the Second Strongest Guy in the Universe.
Frieza has never in his life had the opportunity to be pushed. That's what makes Goku so enthralling to him.
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Frieza plays with Goku because he's genuinely having the time of his life. This guy can fight him in his Final Form. Nobody can fight him in his Final Form. He's so happy, he straight-up forgets that he's trying to complete a genocide against Goku's entire race.
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He said that five minutes ago. Gohan's hidden power freaked Frieza the fuck out. Saiyans are too strong now. They've gotten too strong. Frieza cannot permit them to keep existing because they're getting strong. Every last Saiyan, every last one, must die. Every single one. Scorched earth, no survivors.
But then he meets a Saiyan martial artist who's a technical master and pushes him more than he ever thought possible and suddenly:
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He goes from "Saiyans are TOO STRONG and they all must die because they might threaten me" to "OH MY GOD I'M HAVING SO MUCH FUN CAN I KEEP YOU!?"
It's this desire for a true rival, this opportunity to satisfy his amateur's curiosity about martial arts, that ultimately unravels him. Frieza has one ruthless and pragmatic option for ending this fight once it starts to be too much for him. He can technically stop the fight any time he wants.
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But he can't bring himself to do it. He wants to fight. He wants to compete. Frieza's been on the outside looking in at martial arts for his entire life and even when his greatest fears are fulfilled and the Super Saiyan is in front of him, he wants to try.
So when he does attempt to pull his Lethal Ragequit, he pulls back at the last second. He can't bring himself to do it. Goku initially assesses that Frieza held back out of fear of hurting himself.
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But later, as Frieza begins unlocking the final chains on his ki, Goku changes his assessment. Noting that if Frieza really held back simply out of a mistake, he could have shot the planet again at any point to finish the job. He's been letting this play out because he can't bring himself to end the greatest fight of his life that way.
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This fight is still happening because Frieza wants to compete. I mean, he wants to win, of course, but he wants to win as a martial artist. He's never truly gotten to be a martial artist before.
He is not the guy winning the gold medal at the Tenkaichi Budokai. He has never been that guy. He's the guy who buys up the land the Tenkaichi Budokai is held on and then bulldozes all the people off of it. But in his heart of hearts, he wants to be that guy. That guy is so cool. Frieza wants to play too.
In a sense, by hosting the Cell Games, Cell got to live Frieza's greatest fantasy.
This is who Frieza is. He's the cruel and wicked heir to Genocide Realtors Inc., who is in love with the idea of being Tenshinhan - A desire that exists at odds with - and undermines - his pragmatic business sense, so to speak.
He is the most vile character in the history of Dragon Ball. The worst kind of person. He is also an overeager child whose wealth and privilege prevents him from ever truly enjoying his hobbies, to an extent that he'd be almost pitiable but for all the genocides.
And he is Dragon Ball's greatest villain.
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kamehamehamlet · 6 months
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KamehameHamlet Archives: Freeza's Tail
Vegeta (and his helmet) have gotten a lot of love, but I wanted to highlight my other favorite piece of costuming: Freeza's tail! Read on to see it in action, and how it was made!
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Made of a super long industrial pool noodle (with some theatre magic modifications), this costume piece/prop whipped around stage behind Cayla with a twisted fluidity that tied together Freeza's look. I mean just look at how it hooks around the rock then lashes out when Cayla turns sharply.
Let's take a look at how it was made!
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The original idea for the tail was based on those wooden snake toys and I cut up a pool noodle as a protoype and sent the following video to our costume designer/magician Sarah Simon.
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Sarah took my less-than-half-baked idea and crafted the final form of the tail. She shaved down a large white pool noodle to a taper, and instead of cutting all the way through, she used precise slices at varying angles which allowed specific bends exactly where we wanted them. The diagram below explains it better.
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So why put all of this effort into this piece:
1. It's cool. Duh.
2. We needed to be able to pull off this moment.
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bahnloopi · 1 year
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(LONG THREAD AHEAD)
I pitched the idea for "regional" Saiyans. Saiyans who evolve and adapt to their settled climates. Whis tells Goku and Vegeta that there are smaller Saiyan tribes that inhabit other less universes (not just U6).
These Saiyans inhabit a water/ice-based planet. They're based off of Japanese macaques or "hot spring monkeys". Naming system has been after bathroom products. They're super lazy but can inflict heavy damage if you engage a fight with them.
Planet Sento is predominantly an ice planet. The tropical hot springs are made from volcanic vents underneath that melt the ice of the surrounding area. Sentos have thick skin and fur and are accustomed to the scalding temperatures of the springs.
They're classified in roles: Therapies, Offense troopers, transporters, and Elders. Transporters are the Sento Saiyans with the thickest coasts who haul resources or thinner coat Saiyans to and from neighboring tribes. Offense Troopers are usually male/females with thick-enough coats who protect the Transporters. Therapies are females with thinner coats that can't venture through the arctic areas and they perform massage therapy on the troopers or transporters. If a Sento Oozaru is calmed enough from thrashing by soaking in the hot springs, Therapies swoop in to try and revert it back to base form using head scritches or giant leaf fanning.
Their courting/mating practices consist of top-tier acrobatic performances to impressing mates. Hetero/Homosexual relationships accepted.
They only really turn into Oozarus if you agitate them or they can't get access into the hot springs. Their skin and fur is thick enough to take the boiling temps of the spring but can scald regular skin. The spring has senzu-bean and muscle stimulator properties.
They don't really speak a lot since they sleep most of the time so they use ASL to communicate most of the time.
Powerwise I'd place them at SSJ3 level only when they're active fighting. They're fight primal style at ground-base. They cannot fly but can launch themselves in momentum. They can't sense energy but go by scent.
Main thing is Super forms. They do not physically turn into the forms. They learn to use the form's properties. (stamina\ki control\moveset). Think Ikari Broly. The only indicator of what form they're utilizing is eye color. If they're using SSJ, their eye color will change to the form's eye color.
In origins, there were a group of og saiyans that served under Vegeta's Great Grandfather and they decided to step away from the throne. They were exiled and accidentally discovered beings who could travel between universes at will. They had no desire to come back with Cold's regime active.
(There's a lot more information and I'll update the post again later.)
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wishballs · 5 months
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FRYPAN DINASTY AU
It's a spin off of Saiyan Saga Au, (based on the Saiyans in Frypan concept) with some changes.
In this Au there is a huge volcano that destroyed the Frypan mountain many years ago and left the place uninhabitable. The residents of the region, seeking to hide, discovered underground caves protected by crystals with strange properties and set up a small village underground.
They soon discovered that the stones had healing powers when drinking the water at the bottom of the cave, and they amplified physical abilities when the stones were ground and the liquid consumed.
The village population, trying to defend themselves from monster attacks and people trying to steal the stones, began to consume the stones to form an army and protect the caves from invaders. The village didn't take long to become an underground city. Thus began the new reign of King Ox, which would later be passed on to his daughter Chichi.
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(Loki based horns ✨ )
After years in isolation. Bulma appeared accompanied by a group of Saiyans (Vegeta, Raditz, Turtles, Goku) trying to resume negotiations.
That day, Chichi was protecting the mountain from invaders when he came across Goku and tried to kill him because he thought he was an enemy. And now they're married (wat)
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In addition to being a soldier for the Saiyan Empire, Goku/Kakarott and his wife protect the people of Frypan.
He doesn't consider himself a king because he has no patience for politics, so he leaves that to Chichi.
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Pan likes to help his grandmother and play with the creatures that live in the caves.
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Gohan is a scientist and is doing research to find a way to put out the volcano's fire.
He also teaches the common language to the inhabitants of Frypan in his spare time.
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Goten helps defend the city from invaders together with Videl, when he's not at school, of course, because Chichi won't let him miss school
That's what I've thought for now, maybe there will be more in the future.
Saiyans on Frypan
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friezaglasiencold · 3 months
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Hello, my lord! I have a few questions for you today. 1. When you went to earth (mechanized and all) with your father, and the odd purple haired male appeared and turned into a super saiyan, your father was killed before he could transform. Do you think that your father could have defeated that super Saiyan if given the chance to unleash more power? Say, his assault/3rd form or his final form? 2. How much damage does it take until you cant transform? For example, can you still transform if you're in your 2nd form and you get a hole blasted in you (A small one to be specific), is transformation still possible? 3. In your 2nd form, the bald one cut off your tail, but when you transformed again, it grew back. Is your kind capable of regeneration to some odd degree? 4. Did your father ever have a significant other? 5. Wouldn't it be funny if the super Saiyan who cut you into pieces was vegeta's tween offspring? *Whistle* 6. Have you come across any weird time chambers that have a weird time anomaly, where time moves slower on the inside than it does on the outside? Why don't you train for 12 years In there to obtain a new powerful form to make sure your power is uncontested in the universe? 7. So if your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd forms are more suppressed states.. And your "final" form is your base state to some degree, does your race make transformations like 5th and golden, or are they natural to your race, like how the great ape is natural to the Saiyan's? Thank you for your time, my lord!
You're so inquisitive about my transformations... must be a changeling chaser. Classic. Still, I'll humor you out of kindness, despite your list being gluttonously long, since you're one of the only people I've known to remember that my lower forms have their own names and I'm tickled to see that sort of enthusiastic recall. Here you are:
No. My father's power level would have read as higher than mine as we approached Earth, but that was a mere bluff. Much as one can suppress their battle strength to make it appear smaller, one can make it appear larger, and he had a habit of bloating it artificially, like a bird fluffing its feathers. It was smothering, even long before I learned to sense others' ki.
The process requires a great deal of physical strain, and it's difficult to stop once I've gotten started. I could try to transform in such a state, but I'd probably lose a fair bit of blood in the process if the injury were anywhere vital; that said, if I could complete the transformation, the accelerated healing would regenerate some of the damage, so it'd be a tossup whether the ordeal would be worth the risk.
As mentioned above... smaller injuries are easy to heal during transformation, because my body is already undergoing so much rapid change. The end of my tail is designed to be able to drop on its own, so it's particularly simple to regrow; if it had been an arm or a leg, I might not have been so lucky.
No. Just a gaggle of favorite escorts.
No, it wouldn't. I'll try not to be concerned by how specific that scenario is.
Also bizarrely specific, and no, I haven't. Twelve years is such a long time, too... how about ten?
My Golden form is unique to me, as Cooler's hideous 'fifth' form is to him. It's an uncommon practice, but with enough training most people of Arcosian descent can engineer a new form for themselves, though not many have the power to pull it off.
Hope that satisfies your curiosities.
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astral-mariner · 5 months
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Wait a minute I can just send you an ask about how you think saiyan culture varies by region and also about that religious tail removal headcanon you mentioned on the extremely long tail post lol
Infodump incoming! (Caveat: these are just some fun headcanons, and I love other people's headcanons just as much. I love when there are a million different versions of things so I can enjoy them all and enjoy the content millions of times over!)
Epic Rambling below the cut.
Okay, so. I made up all of this to be background stuff for my Saiyans under Freeza fic. Like a collective memory the characters have that people like Nappa could reference. To give the fic a sense of history and context even if we don't see the saiyan planet. To show how the characters see the world, how they think about things, what they care about, and why.
Basically, I imagine that Vegeta-sei had a handful of "nations" that roughly correspond to different population groups on different parts of the planet. They each have some unique cultural practices, beliefs, fighting styles, etc. Only in the recent(ish) past had their culture become more globalized due to receiving more access to technology from the Planet Trade. So they may have had scouters and whatnot before, but not everyone would have had them. They may have had healing/incubation pods too, but they weren't readily available to most people. All of this is to say that their different cultures wouldn't have converged into a uniform one due to globalization/colonization.
As for the different nations themselves, I imagine that different regions prioritized different things about being saiyan. Or they had different ways of approaching class hierarchies. For example, one nation might center Super Saiyan legends in their cultural consciousness, whereas another might center Oozaru transformation. This is precisely the difference I imagine between the nation that surrounds the royal palace/lands and the nation that houses a population closer to one of the planet's poles:
The royal bloodline bases their claim to power not just on their (supposed) higher latent strength, but also their alleged ancestral ties to saiyans that have become Super Saiyans. And the royals/nobles themselves perpetuate this narrative to consolidate power. Even though it seems pretty apparent that no saiyans have living memory of actually seeing a Super Saiyan---just that there are stories about their might, what they look like, etc. So the royals and everyone around them would be steeped in these legends. And the general culture of nobility, too, would contribute to obsessing over ancestry, power level, etc., where having ties to the royal family grants social status.
But it's not just social status---probably one of the reasons why SSJ legends have such a hold on people is that the Super Saiyans of legend helped them conquer their own planet(s?), won critical battles in the distant past, and perhaps played a sort of "savior" role. They have a sort of spiritual/religious significance. They provide a sort of "ideal" to which any strong, virtuous saiyan should aspire. An avatar for how saiyans construct morality and excellence (beyond just those in power wanting to maintain order and control).
Vegeta references that a Super Saiyan is a warrior with a "cold" or "pure" heart. Some of this is probably his own or his father's spin on the stories he was told as a child. Shutting down his emotions and detaching himself simultaneously from forming any connections as well as from the horrors he was experiencing/committing was certainly a coping strategy for surviving under Freeza. But some of it definitely came from his culture and from saiyan spiritual sensibility generally.
Different translations refer to the heart of the Super Saiyan as "pure," "cold," or even "tranquil." Because "pure of heart" captures a different kind of vibe in a Western mind than it does an Eastern one. It's not about being, like, "morally good" or anything---it's more about being empty, or single of purpose. Unaffected by attachment, and not in the "I don't care about anyone" sense (though it definitely is about that as well in some cases). Think along the lines of nonattachment philosophy you see described in Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, or (for a more Western flavor) Stoicism. So you can see how it simultaneously captures the adjectives of "pure" and "cold/tranquil." Or, for a pop culture reference that many will be familiar with, how the Jedi and Star Wars try to stay above attachment to the world and being swayed by personal passions.
And I bring all of this up to make a point about how saiyans might approach virtue. It's more about excellence than it is about doing what is right. So, something done excellently is virtuous, even if it is something humans would consider evil. A virtuous saiyan is someone who is as strong as possible, fights with clearness of purpose, and is unswayed by personal passions. The state of SSJ is a kind of state of enlightenment. (Which puts the differences between Goku and Vegeta on display: Goku is actually more exemplary of someone who fights in this "enlightened" way---purely for the sake of itself---whereas Vegeta is caught up in his emotions in every fucking battle he fights. He hates Kakarot, he hates Freeza. He's always trying to prove something. While Goku isn't trying to prove anything. He's just fighting because fighting is what he does, and he does it excellently.)
Now contrast this with a group of saiyans who prioritize Oozaru transformation more. Instead of trying to detach oneself, imagine leaning into one's passions and becoming a fucking monster. You know, the call of the moon, the bloodlust of the beast. Totally different vibe from the Enlightened Warrior. I find it absolutely fascinating that you have these two competing narratives for how a saiyan shows strength. That they have these two main transformations with these totally different flavors (that are later unified in transformations like SSJ3/4?). And you even see little nods to how saiyans think about their Oozaru transformation. Sometimes it's just about letting loose and being destructive. Other times, different saiyans in canon (such as Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga) seem to turn to it as a last resort. Not their main line of defense; something messy and unbecoming, even.
I'll write more about the saiyan cultures that lean more into Oozaru vs. SSJ in another post about the backstory I've constructed for Vegeta's mom! I headcanon that she belonged to one of these cultures, and that Vegeta's parents followed different traditions. (Also makes the relationship between King Vegeta and Vegeta's mom quite interesting!)
Now about saiyans who remove their tails: So with alllllllll of that said about SSJ vs. Oozaru and the different approaches/philosophies behind them, you can imagine a kind of extremist faction of the SSJ-prioritizing culture that eschews Oozaru transformation altogether as an attempt to strive for excellence only, to be totally pure-hearted, to have no passions whatsoever. And some of them would remove their tails as an expression of their spiritual sensibilities. Perhaps they belong to an ascetic warrior tradition. Tail removal would simultaneously be seen as something scandalous/taboo as well as very serious, as for most saiyans, this removes their access to one of their more powerful transformations (at least for a little while, if the tail eventually grows back).
I don't think King Vegeta would have belonged to this faction even if he would be drawn to some of their philosophies/practices. He probably couldn't remove his tail for social status reasons as well. But I can see him employing some of the tailless saiyans in various corners of his regime. Like, think of what kind of flex it would be to employ ascetic warrior fanatics to positions of, say, law enforcement. As in "these people are going to torture you, and they aren't going to give a single fuck about you or anything else while they are doing it." Because of the nonattachment stuff. People who just follow the will of the heir to the Super Saiyan Legacy and pursue strength/excellence while casting off all else.
I could literally go on and on about this. How these different philosophies shape the characters we know, how the characters twist these narratives to suit their aims or cope with their lives. I know this is super rambly, but I think you get some of the ideas here?
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lunarsilkscreen · 3 months
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Super Saiyan Sillyness
There's a small plot point in DBS that is really important as to the direction the series is going, but if I acknowledge it; it would be extreme spoiler content. So instead; I'm going to talk about how Super Saiyan works.
In the DragonBall series Ki is a metaphysical concept that can be used to increase your own endurance and kinetic power, without increasing your mass.
Originally, this was a small thing used by characters to shoot out magical bursts like a firearm, without a weapon. Allowing a Martial Artists to develop ranged attacks without weaponry.
As we get to DBZ however; this Ki energy becomes a way to increase your physical strength and endurance. Initially by increasing your muscle mass, and later without the forced muscle expansion that causes body degradation and extreme exhaustion.
This culminates in the Battle of Goku vs Frieza, where along with his innate spaceman genetics; Goku figures out how to use this Ki, along with his anger to transform into a super Saiyan.
What this is, is a focused version of abilities before this, developed by Roshi and King Kai. King Kai's variant being the most recognizable; Kaio Ken.
Kaio Ken, however; like the bulking Ki causes extreme wear and tear on the body. And so the Super Saiyans rarely use it after learning how to become super Saiyan.
Now, SS isn't the only type of super transformation available to denizens of Akira Toriyama's world. Frieza species seems to be able to "Go Gold" as well. Which is a full body transformation.
Similar to Super Saiyan 4 in the DBGT series, which explored the vastness of space after turning Goku into a child.
Saiyans also have a kind of werewolf transformation during the full moon, where they can't control their emotions.
This however is shown to be destructive, and akin to the muscle expansion techniques as it increases Mass equivalent to the energy gained.
The Namekians have a similar transformation showcases by Lord Slug and Orange Piccolo, which has all the same drawbacks.
What this means; is because Saiyans and Namekians and Frezians share these similar transformations and Ki generation; that these techniques should be available to every race and species.
It's just that some cultures are more ingrained with wanting to learn how to fight gooder. Or are Frieza and just Tyrants.
Vegeta and Frieza show a disdain for species that they previously believed were "inferior races". Frieza towards all Saiyans, and Vegeta to his Half-blood nephew: Gohan. Who display a completely different form of Saiyan transformation that isn't SSJ2 but is similar in power level. Dubbed Mystic Saiyan due to its creation by the influence from Supreme Kai's Magic.
But here's where it's interesting to me. As we get to Super Saiyan God mode, which is what the *real* SS legend is based on, and the Saiyan race had become extremely weak in comparison to their former abilities before the Friezers turned them into a caste of warrior conquerer slaves. Meaning they had forgotten nearly all of their *real* combat techniques that they thought made them a "superior race."
But this Super Saiyan God mode, which then can be focused into what's known as Super Saiyan Blue; demonstrates the use of Ki and it's reflection on tbe visible light spectrum.
Ki can be used raw to empower a person, but because it's non focused it will cause the body to undergo a temporary extreme physical transformation.
This is alleviated somewhat with the Kaio-Ken technique which focuses the ki to a sharper point, and allows for an exponential increase in comparison to the regular Ki power up, but has the *same* draw backs at higher levels.
Then we get to a kind of Middle point. Frieza has several forms before Gold, but they seem to be more able to limit their physical transformation to use the power gain more effectively.
In fact; Friezas stay in their supposed final form after entering permanently, and then have more forms to go, and Unlike Uzaro Form and Super Namekian form, retain a standard small humanoid size.
And here's where it gets interesting; these different forms and techniques can be combined or used interchangeably to achieve the same or similar results .
In DB:GT; Super Saiyan 4 is achieved by entering Uzaro Form, Mastering it, Turning Super while in that form, and then supressing the Ki and physical transformation to bring the user back to typical humanoid size.
With their body showcasing red fur growth over their body.
This indicates that Super Uzaro, Namek, and Frieza all use a similar method in order to achieve levels that are past Super Saiyan 3 levels.
SS3 is a unique form, because while still being Super Saiyan, it amps up the physical form of the user. It still increases the physical mass. Not only appearing to lengthen the hair follicles (which is probably just run-off ki, as the user returns to normal after use)
But bulking up as with the previous forms drawbacks.
Which means that this Bulking is the habit that most life forms exhibit when they increase their key until they figure out how to shift better.
Basically, SS3 is the Roshi Technique combined with SS transformation. And SS2 focuses the energy of SS1 better, because it doesn't exhibit the bulking drawback.
This bulking drawback is visible when Vegeta and Trunks attain their own post Super Saiyan forms as well. Vegeta commenting; "You're still using that bulky form?" At one point indicating to Trunks that he is doing it wrong.
Their SS2 forms included the bulking drawback that Goku's didn't exhibit.
So when we get to SS:God form; this looks similar to Kaio Ken, with it's red glow. Indicated a compressed form of energy, that can then be compressed into Super Saiyan Blue.
Vegeta demonstrated this with his Super Saiyan Prince form. As his eyes sparkle along the colored light spectrum indicating the varying power levels not visible in the hair.
This is different but similar to the SS4 shown in GT. Instead of the Ki run off coming from the tops of their heads as in the gold super Saiyan forms, the red ki comes out of the hair follicles across their body and from their regrown Saiyan monkey tails.
This is a strange transformation as it looks like a form similar to Ultra Instinct combined with a red variant of super Saiyan.
More on this; Ultra Instinct looks like base form. Because there is no bulking, there is no visible Ki generation at the hair follicles. Just a black-light aura.
This is because the Ki is focused to a point where it is no longer emitting from the visible light spectrum.
The drawbacks with UI seem similar to Uzaro and Kaio Ken form however. As UI takes an extreme toll on the body, and nearly loses concious control. Any less control, and it's conceivable Goku could become a mindless destructive force like Uzaro or Brolly.
Brolly is a Super Saiyan who can't control his super Saiyan powers due to extreme neglect and trauma induced by the former Saiyan culture and lifestyle. Which indicates a connection between Super Saiyan Brolly, UI, and Uzaro. SS Brolly forms (also shared by Kefla from Uni6) also showcases a greenish aura.
Demonstrating that there are different ways that different people can utilize the SS transformation and these other techniques.
What this means is that Uni7 UI Goku has potentially become stronger than DB:GT(unnumbered uni) Goku. Because he doesn't have Color inconsistencies. SS4 Goku and Vegeta in comparison, while having black hair, emit the Red Ki from their body hair, and red from their eyes, similar to Vegeta's Super Princess. SSJ4 also includes slight bulking.
However, UI has that extreme Drawback where once you've used up your energy, that's it until you take a long rest.
UI also seems different from Super Forms as you can't harness your emotional state, as one is often shown doing when they initially enter that state.
And Uni6 Saiyans, with the exceot of Vegeta's protege, entering it at will without emotion.
Hinting that the emotional burst is good to learn how to control larger amounts of Ki, but not good at focusing it down to the single point required of UI.
The SS4 Saiyan's also have a "Limit Breaker" similar to that of entering SS:God Mode. which enables them to use their transformation at will, unlike before which required becoming Uzaro, loosing control, regaining control, become super Uzaro, and then sustaining that. And maintaining it longer than 5 minutes.
Which suggests the forms are not unique to the method of transformation.
With Videl standing in for an extra Saiyan (Despite being Preggers) this also suggests that you simply need multiple people whose combined energy exceeds a certain amount, and isn't generically limited to Saiyan's.
This correlates with the other [Super Transformations] shown in the series as a whole.
What they tend to forget, is that despite being Human, Videl is one of the strongest Humans on Earth. Rivaling only Krillin, who isn't as strong as Goku simply because he doesn't have a single mind focused on becoming stronger. Also, unlike Goku, who inherited land and money from King Yama, actually needs to work for a living.
Goku isn't the strongest because he's a Saiyan either. Even Vegeta believed for a while that Goku was a low-tier saiyan incapable of meeting, much less exceeding the power level of a prince like himself.
He's the strongest because he's Goku.
This brings me to the end of this with one final observation; Goku and Trunks in Uni7. Who become Super Saiyan at will naturally. Without training, without really knowing what it is.
They're not just expanded power level from epigenetics, they have expanded powers because of the same technique that gives Goku and Vegeta SS:God powers.
Because it's the same technique showcased by Korin, Kami, Guru, and the Kai's, in "unlocking a person's potential".
Just a weaker form since a single person would only be able emit so much energy. Achieving SS:God and SS4:LB and the [Ki Expansion] technique most therefore be the same, becoming stronger the more Ki you pump into the recipient.
Ergo; Trunks and Goten have high power levels because of... Well... All that energy and training happening during the Buu saga...
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sweetescapeartist · 8 months
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ULTRA EGO EXPLAINED
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"Wagamamma Gokui" A.K.A. "Ultra Ego." A form that Vegeta says isn't to be compared to Goku's Ultra Instinct, but ironically he still compares and gives it a similar name.
But, what are the abilities of Ultra Ego? Well, many fans say that it gives Vegeta...
The ability to use Hakai energy at a God of Destruction level.
The ability to get stronger from taking damage.
Even though the DBS manga illustrates that Vegeta gets stronger from taking damage when in his Ultra Ego transformation, Ultra Ego DOES NOT give Vegeta the ability to turn damage into fuel. How bold of me to disagree with what is said and shown to the reader!! Well... I have my reasons.
TLDR; Ultra Ego is actually the amplification of your natural abilities & personality along with the ability to use God of Destruction power to a higher degree.
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To fully understand my reasoning, let's look at Vegeta's abilities & Ultra Ego's "abilities."
SAIYAN ABILITIES vs ULTRA EGO
VEGETA:
"SAIYAN-POWER": Vegeta gets stronger from taking damage due to the innate Saiyan ability to get stronger during battle. And the thrill of combat is what Saiyans live for.
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ULTRA EGO:
"BATTLE SOUL": While taking damage in this transformed state, Vegeta grows stronger due to his so-called "battle soul" burning hot. And as a Saiyan, the thrill of combat is what he lives for.
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VEGETA:
HAKAI TECHNIQUE: Vegeta learned how to use Hakai energy from Beerus.
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ULTRA EGO:
HAKAI TECHNIQUE: While in this transformed state, Vegeta is granted greater power to create stronger Hakai attacks that he could not perform prior to this God of Destruction transformation.
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VEGETA:
ATTITUDE: Arrogant.
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ULTRA EGO:
ATTITUDE: Egomaniac.
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Now, what I stated at the begining is making sense. Saiyans already get stronger from taking damage & Vegeta can use the Hakai technique in his base form. Ultra Ego is meant to greatly amplify what Vegeta can naturally do & has learned.
Furthermore, we can examine the traits of another mortal who used a God of Destruction transformation; Toppo from the DBS Anime Continuity.
THE POWER OF A GOD OF DESTRUCTION
TOPPO
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VEGETA
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Ultra Ego is simply a God of Destruction transformation that alters the appearance, greatly amplifies power & natural abilities, & allows the user to use GoD level Hakai attacks.
It's literally the same type of power as Toppo's Hakaishin form from the DBS Anime Continuity, except Anime Toppo & Manga Vegeta use Hakai abilities differently. The manga decides to shift focus soley on a single type of Hakai attack; the "explosive" Hakai. But there are other Hakai techniques performed in both the anime continuity & manga continuity; Explosive, Sand, Disenigration.
TO SUMMARIZE:
WHAT IS ULTRA EGO?
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Obviously, Ultra Ego is simply God of Destruction power just as the title for DBS Chapter 75 informs us. Vegeta just makes up a name for the power on the fly.
WHAT DOES GOD OF DESTRUCTION POWER DO?
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Beerus taught Vegeta that GoD power is unbounded. Meaning "Ultra Ego" is a type of limit-breaking power. Similarly, the limit-breaking power of SSBE is referred to as "boundless energy."
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However, Ultra Ego allows you to push yourself beyond your limit until you completely exhaust yourself & fall out of the GoD transformation. SSBE doesn't let the body get pushed to such an extreme that leaves you completely vulnerable for the sake of power that will burn out.
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We can conclude that what the limit-breaking power of "Ultra Ego" does is...
alter the appearance of a mortal using the GoD form
increase strength & durability
enhance the natural abilities & the strength of techniques
grant the user to use GoD level Hakai attacks
amplify the personality of the user
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EXTRA:
By looking at context clues & using some deductive reasoning, it appears that ONLY when Vegeta is engaged in battle while using the Ultra Ego form, there is "no limit" for his God of Destruction power.
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But, since Vegeta is not a true GoD like Beerus, once Vegeta runs out of "fuel" or when he powers down from his Ultra Ego form, the extra strength that he gained through taking damage during combat is gone because the power boosts leave when the Ultra Ego power leaves. Vegeta will have to restart his power progression all over again whenever he transforms back into Ultra Ego.
From my understanding, Ultra Ego appears to function something like this...
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mawrblaidddrwg · 3 months
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Mr. Vegeta,” Bulma nodded curtly at the disgruntled man who nodded back, before turning towards Mr. Goku.
“Thank you again for everything,” she said with a wide smile.
“You’re welcome, Miss Bulma!”
As Bulma approached the horse she would be riding home, she reached for the hand that she assumed belonged to Mr. Goku or perhaps a servant to help her up onto the saddle of the horse. As she felt the warm, calloused fingers envelope her hand she felt a jolt of lightning course through her. She snapped her head and turned to see that it was Mr. Vegeta who had been holding his hand out to help her onto her horse. His black eyes caught her surprised blue eyes for a moment as she felt his strong hand and arm help lift her onto the horse effortlessly. His flexing bicep strained the fabric of his coat around his arm before he released her hand and turned away from her.
Bulma gaped at his retreating form as he stormed back towards the entrance of Mr. Goku’s estate, not bothering to stand and exchange pleasantries and wave the party of Briefs home. As he walked away the hand that had held hers for a few moments trembled at his side and he flexed his fingers in vain trying to shake off the tingly warmth that was flowing from his fingers straight to his tightening chest.
AU Pride & Prejudice Vegebul from my AO3 based off of the amazing scene from Pride & Prejudice 2005
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supaserajupiter · 3 months
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I adored the Shadow panel at Anime Expo and I’m so glad they live-streamed it 😭 one of my favorite moments from the panel was that one person asking Iizuka-san why Shadow said this to Sonic at the end of SA2: “I think I discovered what the ultimate lifeform is…it might be you!”
Iizuka-san’s answer was amazing! He said Shadow was losing his power at the end of the fight against the Final Hazard and yet Sonic was still in his super form. Shadow thought that maybe Sonic was the ultimate life form because he was still powered up and he was currently falling to his death. Then after he landed on Earth and survived, Shadow was like, “nevermind. I’m still the best lol.” THAT IS SO SHADOW OMG 😂😂😂 Best answer!
Iizuka-san also squashed any rumor that Shadow is based off of Vegeta.
And omg Stephanie Sheh, who voices Sailor Moon in the VIZ English dub, is going to voice Maria!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! All my favorite things are combining 😭👏🏾👏🏾 Pleeease I need fanart of Shadow and Sailor Moon! And I’m glad this is sparking more art of Shadow and Maria 🤧 holy banana cream pie, that Shadow animation preview tho!!!!! I wasn’t readyyyyy!!! AAAAAAAAAAAA!!! I WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS!!!!!!!!
The year of Shadow is truly the best year 🥺🤧
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bones4thecats · 4 months
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Upcoming Pieces List
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This is my Upcoming Pieces List. Here you can find the possible future posts of mine. Anyways, if you are looking for something different, just hop on over to my Request Form and go from there!
P.S: Some characters may end up changed when the prompt is written! Just wanted you guys to know that!
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᯽ Their S/O having a Newfoundland! Dog ~ Cater Diamond, Rook Hunt, Azul Ashengrotto, and Malleus Draconia ᯽ TWST! S/O based on Pain/Panic ~ Jack Howl, Floyd Leech, and Deuce Spade ᯽ Fem! S/O being Yuu's other-world parent ~ Divus Crewel, Dire Crowley, Baul Zigvolt, and Lilia Vanrouge ᯽ RSA! S/O relationship headcanons ~ Leona Kingscholar, Silver, Yuu Sei, and Rook Hunt ᯽ NRC! S/O relationship headcanons ~ Che'nya, Neige LeBlanche, and Rollo Flamme ᯽ S/O being their film's heroine ~ Lilia Vanrouge, Riddle Rosehearts, Vil Schoenheit, and Jade Leech ᯽ Having an Angerfish-Mer! S/O ~ Azul Ashengrotto, Jade Leech, and Floyd Leech ᯽ Having a Scorpion-Beastman! S/O ~ Leona Kingscholar, Ruggue Bucchi, and Jack Howl
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᯽ Their S/O having children ~ Mitsuri Kanroji, Shinobu Kocho, Gyomei Himejima, and Hotaru Haganezuka ᯽ Uppermoon! S/O dying alongside them ~ Kokushibo, Hantengu, Akaza, and Douma ᯽ Dying with their S/O ~ Kyojuro Rengoku, Muichiro Tokito, Gyomei Himejima, and Genya Shinazugawa ᯽ Their S/O being Inosuke's older sibling ~ Sanemi Shinazugawa, Tengen Uzui, Giyuu Tomioka, and Obanai Iguro ᯽ Their S/O being a Butterfly Sibling ~ Genya Shinazugawa, Goto, Tengen Uzui, and Giyuu Tomioka ᯽ Demon! S/O w/ 'kill-by-touch' blood demon art ~ Hantengu Clones (Sekido, Karaku, Aizetsu, and Urogai) ᯽ Their S/O always being cold ~ Kozo Kanamori, Muichiro Tokito, Yoriichi Tsugikuni, and Obanai Iguro
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᯽ Raising Child! Reader ~ Rudra, Heracles, Hades, and Ganesha ᯽ S/O passes away during Ragnarok ~ Thor, Odin, Loki, and Heimdall ᯽ S/O participating in Ragnarok ~ Susano'o no Mikoto, Brunhilde, Thor, and Ares ᯽ Crushing on their opponent's S/O ~ Beelzebub, Apollo, Thor, and Poseidon ᯽ Their S/O being the Deity of Fear ~ Hermes, Aphrodite, Odin, and Buddha ᯽ S/O being one of Zeus' children ~ Adam, Lü Bu, Leonidas, and Soji Okita ᯽ S/O being an artist ~ Jataka, Kojiro Sasaki, Eve, and Jack the Ripper
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᯽ Having a family w/ S/O ~ Yamcha, Tien Shinhan, Piccolo, and Cooler ᯽ Their S/O being based on Discord (MLP: FiM) ~ Daishinkan, Liquiir, Frost, and Top ᯽ Having a Warrior! S/O ~ Broly, Frieza, Son Goku, and Raditz ᯽ Their S/O being Frieza's ex ~ Son Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, Krillin ᯽ Having a Supreme Kai! S/O ~ Dende, Cheelai, Lemo, and Shin ᯽ Zeno's older sibling! S/O ~ Romsshi, Belmond, Jiren, and Daishinkan ᯽ S/O being a Saiyan ~ Piccolo, Gamma 1, Gamma 2, and Zarbon ᯽ S/O being an ex-member of the Frieza Force ~ Cell, Vegeta, Broly, and Whis
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᯽ Their S/O is Lucifer's twin ~ Alastor, Zestial, Lilith, and Adam ᯽ Having a Fallen Angel! S/O ~ Angel Dust, Vaggie, and Rosie ᯽ Their S/O being Charlie's brother ~ Angel Dust, Sir Pentious, Husk, and Velvette ᯽ Deadly Sin! S/O ~ Charlie Morningstar, Lucifer Morningstar, Carmilla Carmine, and Alastor ᯽ Sinner-Ultron! S/O ~ Vox, Zestial, Sir Pentious, and Vaggie ᯽ Adam's daughter! S/O ~ Sir Pentious, Cherri Bomb, and Charlie + Vaggie ~ ᯽ Eighth Deadly Sin! S/O ~ Asmodeus, Mammon, Beelzebub, and Stolas Goetia ᯽ Ars Goetia! S/O ~ Loona Buckzo, Andrealphus, Verosika Mayday, and Striker ᯽ Striker's sibling! S/O ~ Blitzø Buckzo, Millie + Moxxie, and Crimson Knolastname ᯽ Blitzo's-ex! S/O ~ Verosika Mayday, Striker, Fizzarolli, and Blitzø Buckzo ᯽ Their S/O being a sinner ~ Octavia Goetia, Paimon Goetia, Moxxie Knolastname, and Beelzebub ᯽ S/O having two sides/personalities (evil vs good) ~ Asmodeus, Blitzø Buckzo, Stolas Goetia, and Crimson Knolastname
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᯽ Married life with their S/O ~ Rasticore, HIM, Grandfather, and Hex ᯽ Their S/O being their polar opposite ~ Aku, Lord Garmadon, Boogey Man, and the Omega ᯽ Eldritch! S/O ~ Black Hat, Ludo Avarius, Mojo Jojo, and the Lich ᯽ Assassin! S/O ~ The Brain, Slade, Scorcher, and Vilgax ᯽ Winning the war w/ their S/O (Pathway 1) ~ Aku, Toffee, Bill Cipher, and Trigon ᯽ Losing the war w/ their S/O (Pathway 2) ~ Aku, Toffee, Bull Cipher, and Trigon ᯽ Them w/ a Ghost! S/O ~ The Toiletnator, Count Spankulot, Hunson Abadeer, and Rob
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᯽ Having a Cybertronian-CatNap! S/O ~ Shockwave, Makeshift, Starscream, and Knockout ᯽ Their S/O being Megatron's sparkling ~ Soundwave, Starscream, Bumblebee, and Predaking ᯽ Their S/O being traumatized by Airachnid ~ Predaking, Bulkhead, Arcee, and Breakdown ᯽ Ex-Con! S/O protecting the others ~ Optimus Prime, Bulkhead, Smokescreen, and Wheeljack ᯽ When their S/O sacrifices themselves ~ Hardshell, Dreadwing, Skyquake, and Megatron
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᯽ First words from their Sparkling! Reader ~ Ratchet, Ultra Magnus, Yoketron, and Swindle ᯽ S/O hating loud sounds ~ Starscream, Grimlock, Sentinel Prime, and Prowl ᯽ S/O being Ultra Magnus' lost sparkling ~ Optimus Prime, Wreck-Gar, Grimlock, and Blitzwing ᯽ Their S/O being Lugnut's best-friend ~ Blitzwing, Shockwave, Starscream, and Megatron ᯽ S/O with a honey badger alt mode ~ Waspinator, Jazz, Jetfire, and Jetstorm ᯽ The Reader being Sentinel Primes' sparkling ~ Bumblebee, Bulkhead, Jetfire, and Jetstorm
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᯽ Their S/O having a wolverine alt-mode ~ Steeljaw, Thunderhoof, Underbite, and Fracture ᯽ S/O served on the Nemesis during war ~ Starscream, Chop Shop, Cyclonus, and Clampdown ᯽ Dinobot! S/O ~ Grimlock, Drift, Windblade, and Fracture ᯽ S/O being Megatronus' sparkling ~ Soundwave, Steeljaw, Cyclonus, and Shadow Raker ᯽ S/O being found severely wounded (happy ending) ~ Strongarm, Sideswipe, Bumblebee, and Grimlock ᯽ What if their S/O was a tease? ~ Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Bulkhead, and Jazz
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᯽ Mothman! Reader ~ Macaque, Kui Mulang, Jin, and Yin ᯽ Child! Reader being a troublemaker ~ Li Jing, Demon Bull King, Yellow Tusk, and Tang Sanzang ᯽ Their S/O being a Qiongqi ~ Tang, Sandy, Red Son, and Peng ᯽ Them having a Demon! S/O ~ Sun Wukong, Pigsy, Nine-Headed Demon, and Ao Lie ᯽ Raising a family w/ S/O ~ Ao Lie, Azure Lion, Nine-Headed Demon, and Sun Wukong ᯽ Meeting Sun Wukong's deceased S/O ~ Monkie Kid (MK), Ne Zha, Tang, and Macaque ᯽ Their S/O being the Deity of Chaos ~ Princess Iron Fan, Nine-Headed Demon, Macaque, and Lady Bone Demon ᯽ Ancestor! Reader meeting them ~ Monkie Kid (MK), Pigsy, Sandy, and Tang
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