#amanda the adventurer theory

[maddy-k-reads-all-day]

Thinking about the "Do you Feel Safe Tape"

Honestly we should talk about the different reactions to 'who do you trust' a bit more.

Wooly - Wooly seems surprised that you trust him. I couldn't help but think it's partly because we like seem to like Amanda and Amanda hates him. Also considering Amanda doesn't trust him, he probably hasn't had anyone say they trusted him in a very long time and it was probably shocking. Then Amanda tells us she felt that way a long time ago and Wooly looks sad. I've noticed throughout the game that he seems to get sad whenever Amanda talks about not liking him anymore. He gets immediately sad when Amanda says that you have to think about who you can trust, before she even mentions. I think whatever he did to break her trust, he might actually feel really bad about it. (I can point out other moments he's done this too if you want). But what else is interesting is that Amanda trusted Wooly at some point. She didn't hate him from the start, something happened to change their relationship. I can't help but feel it was "recent" considering the events of the first game. Considering both Amanda and Wooly's reactions to Wooly coming back to life, I'd assume Amanda has never hated Wooly enough before to try killing him. When I say recent, I mean possibly during the years that Kate was watching the tapes and talking with Amanda.

Personally, I think both Amanda and Wooly unintentionally played a part in Kate's death and Hameln finding her. Considering Amanda's reactions to us saying "Hameln" I think they might still be monitoring Amanda and Wooly. I think that by interacting very directly with her (saying her name and stuff) could have helped them discover her identity and put her in danger. Which is not directly related to anything in this post (I mean it could be, but I'd need more evidence). That said, it's possible that him getting in the way of them remembering (once they started to gain back their memories) was exactly why she stopped trusting him. . But I think the important takeaway here is she did trust him at some point, and he feels bad that he broke that trust.

Kate: Amanda trusted Kate, and wishes she could still talk to her. Kate was one of the last people who knew Amanda when she was Rebecca. (well, positive relationships at least) Think about it. Sam is MIA. All the other librarians who knew her are DEAD. Any friends she had in school or whatever are definitely full grown adults if they didn't get trapped in the show (idk, like if they were watching it cuz it was their friends show or whatever). Every person we know who knew Amanda is probably dead now. Kate was the last one. Now that she remembers, she keeps saying she wishes she could still talk to Kate whenever we mention her, and Wooly looks like he feels bad. Now that she remembers who she was. Now that she remembers Rebecca, she wants to talk with Kate, maybe the way they used to. That could be why she's so angry with him. Why she tried to kill him AFTER they found Kate died (in the Wooly's birthday tape) but had only hurt him when they realized Riley was watching the tapes and not Kate (in the original in your neighborhood tape). Wooly might've caused her to miss her chance to talk to one of the few people who knew her as Rebecca. That was recent though, I think she lost trust in him over time as he kept blocking her attempts to reach out to Kate

Sam: She says Sam was trusting too, and that can be a mistake. She sounds so sad here, like she is going to cry. I think this confirms that Amanda doesn't hold any malice towards Sam about what happened. She understands that both of them were tricked. So idk, I guess any theories involving Amanda hating Sam for what happened are debunked now?

Hameln: Saying Hameln immediately makes Amanda stop trusting us. Wooly looks scared of Amanda yelling (as always) but I noticed he also looks kind of angry? Offended? Annoyed? I can't really tell cuz the tape gets really blurry. I've seen people say that Wooly doesn't react to the meatman or Hameln, but I think he does it's just more subtle. I don't know what else to say here, the clip goes by so fast.

Meatman: Again, both of them react to this. Amanda immediately gets pissed. And like, reasonably so. I've heard that the game won't let you progress past this point if you do this apparently, so like... the meatman is serious. Wooly looks shocked and then immediately motions at us not to say that. But like, it's a different surprise then when you answer "Wooly" he seems horrified. Like this is a pretty messed up thing to say. I'm not 100% sure what the meatman's deal is but like... both Amanda and Wooly seem to dislike him in the first and second game. Also is it just me or is it kind of odd that they only dislike the butcher? Like, there are variants of him in all the shops in the first game and Wooly and Amanda don't really seem to mind him, but they both don't like being in the butcher's. When only the meatman's buildings appear, Wooly looks pretty concerned, and then really scared when they enter, and asks her to take them someplace else. Amanda has a full-blown meltdown over not wanting to go in and when we enter she screams at us to let her out. I find this scene interesting because I don't think either of them are in control. Wooly is trying to distract her from Kate's death (or at least that's what I think the "something bad happened" means) by going a bit off-script and controlling the story a little. It doesn't seem like he was the one who messed with the stores. Amanda didn't either. What if this was the meatman? Like... punishing them for going off script by like reminding them of his looming presence or whatever? Idk. That whole scene was WEIRD in hindsight. Even though we never enter the butcher shop in the second game, his presence looms over us the entire time. Almost makes me think he's the real one put in their too keep the kids under control. They are both terrified of him after all and he seems to be connected with the surgeon who trapped them in there. Sorry this got a bit on topic but I think I might be getting somewhere.

But let's move on to the answers for the "what scares you" question.

"Amanda" or "you" - Question, has anyone tried Rebecca? I've only seen the answer compilations use "amanda" or "you". Amanda breaks our heart here by being hurt that after all this time we're still afraid of her. Ouch.

Hameln - Amanda gets terrified and says not to bring them up. I think Hameln is definitely watching these tapes.

Meatman - Wooly finally reacts to something, and bro is freaked out. Idk if it's by the mention of the meatman, Amanda's anger or both. Honestly, I have no idea why her anger spells still freak them out. I guess it is pretty scary, but I feel like he should be used to it at this point. Also she can't kill him, so what is he afraid of? He doesn't seem to be worried about being the one who makes her angry anymore, but he still gets freaked out when we do it? Weird. Anyway, I find it interesting that Amanda has spent the whole first game trying to tell us all about what happened, but she draws the line at the meatman and Hameln. Wooly wasn't there to stop her before, and she still didn't want to discuss it. Honestly, it doesn't feel like she's been as eager to tell us much in this game, despite trusting us. I mean she's told us plenty about Sam and Kate, so I don't think it's that she doesn't trust us. I think she doesn't want to remember things about Hameln or the meatman. She wanted to remember who she was, she wanted to remember Sam, she wanted to remember Kate and she wanted to know what happened to her... but somehow she draws the line here. Then we see the glitches of the surgery room and the mouth. I really do agree with the theories that the meatman is connected with the people who put her and Wooly into the show. That said... why is he there? That's what I don't get. I think I might be cooking with my earlier theory though no?

Wooly - Odd. He doesn't even look hurt, just confused. We can clearly see here that Amanda is not at all afraid of Wooly, so like I don't think he's like a Hameln worker. The meatman absolutely is though. We are not hating on the meatman enough guys. DOWN WITH THAT- Anyway.

Actually the whole point of this post was to talk about what Amanda says about how we were a stranger when we met her. I think this is really important to note. Because Amanda knew Kate long before she was Amanda. Possibly before "Amanda the Adventurer" even came to be. Of course Amanda trusted her. But she didn't know Riley. She tells us that she trusts us. This is HUGE. I mean, considering everything Amanda has been through. She barely knows us. She has EVERY DANG REASON not to trust us. Heck, I think that could be what Wooly means when he says she shouldn't talk to strangers. Because "not talking to strangers" doesn't make sense in this context. The viewer is a stranger, but if they didn't ever interact with the viewer they wouldn't have a show so Wooly's comment makes no sense. And yet, despite everything, she trusts us. Wooly looks kinda sad when she says she trusts us, probably because she trusted him once too, now she won't listen to a thing he says.

Then Joanne (I swear to god I got so mad at her in this scene) calls us and Amanda looks kind of sad when she hears that. Then looks really sad when Joanne says "that thing" I think Joanne was referring to the Wooly monster but Amanda doesn't know that. Then the possum appears and they both get really mad at it (and us for letting it mess with them). It's made very clear that both of them genuinely don't know who this guy is. It's funny because usually Amanda is the one asking us to get rid of him but this time it's Wooly.

And then let's talk about how COORDINATED THESE TWO WERE OMG. All it took was a look and a nod and they were already on the same page. If we don't help them, they manage to beat this guy up all on their own and mind you, not a single word is exchanged of a plan, they just work together. They just do it. And they do it so freaking well. Remember my Hameln theory? About how Hameln doesn't want these two on the same team because you know... two kids who can control demons who have every reason to hate Hameln and then there's THIS. When they get along they work so freaking well together. Could you imagine if they both decided to team up with their demons and beat the crap out of Hameln? Is there even a chance to be stood here? Honestly, I was also thinking, I think Hameln picked whoever Wooly is specifically for his avoidant personality, knowing that these two would clash. But clearly they don't have to.

Oh yeah, then they both get pissed AT US. I don't think we've actually seen Wooly get THIS mad at us. Like there was the time in the storybook tape but like he was not this mad. He's like... Amanda level mad here. Then they pick up the possum and throw him in the trash with still very minimal communication and ALL THE COORDINATION.

Then in the version where we do help, Amanda actually agrees with Wooly's sentiment that some strangers CAN be scary. Then without a word they both pick him up and throw him in the trash. BRO THE COORDINATION BETWEEN THESE TWO WHEN THEY WORK TOGETHER IS INSANE I NEED MORE OF IT ITS SO SMOOTH AND PLEASANT TO WATCH. Then Wooly asks if they can go home and Amanda playfully teases him "What are you scared?" Then he kinda makes this face like "yeah kinda" and she's like "c'mon let's go." she sounds a lot less annoyed with his presence then usual. Like still annoyed but also like she's kinda okay with it?

This deserves it's whole entire own post but like... I feel like gradually their relationship has improved over the course of this game. Like Amanda still doesn't trust him, there's still some rough stuff they need to work through, but she's starting to let him in again. Just a little. She's more okay with him being there. And I think people tend to overlook this when they say Wooly is evil. If Wooly was evil, why are they starting to get along again, (I mean they aren't besties again but like it's definitely a start and you can't ignore that.) Shouldn't Amanda continue to hate his guts? Instead she's actually agreed with him on some things, and they've helped each other out a bit. Like I said this is probably going to get it's own post at some point so I'll leave it here for now.

Holy crap did you actually read all this? OMG thanks. I did not realize I wrote so much WOW. BTW, I was watching those "all answers" videos along with a zero-commentary playthrough of the original so like, I'm not pulling this from memory at all.

[noelianoe1]

Play my way (Wooly the killer)

from the direction of the blood on Wooly's wool, he is clearly responsible for having done SOMETHING to Mr. Fox, there is something curious here, it seems that Wooly must have attacked him with his own teeth for the corpse to have this kind of tearing. although there is something confusing in these images, it is the huge hole in Mr. Fox's head, I couldn't guess what happened there, but Wooly really did something to him.

and I love that about him now, I didn't think he would be capable of something like that, he doesn't even seem to be very conscious of what he did.

[cctypical]

if the whole hameln facility thing is from someone else’s perspective, does that mean we won’t go there. like riley is just stranded in the fucking sewers for like an hour before reenacting the mollie macaw chase scene with a giant ass sheep demon thing.

pretty sure is does say like “explore the hameln facility” in the description tho so maybe riley goes to the same place that guy was.

omg what if in the bad ending it correlates with the other bad ending and they find his corpse somewhereeeee. or they find him jailed up and help him escape- WHAT IF THATS THE VOICE WE HEAR IN THE TEASER? what if that guy was yelling “RILEY” along with rebecca(?)? omg new ally???

[emotional-mess-in-distress]

Combining the Wooly is a Hamln employee theory with a Wooly is just a kid star like Amanda to get the secret third thing: Wooly is the kid of two of the people involved with the cult, raised in it and given as a sacrifice to participate in the show the same way as Amanda.

[seasonalmoss]

ATA 3 demo spoilers

So with Wooly’s real name most likely being Marcus, I’d like to make a quick post to say that this does give more to the “Wooly was raised by Hameln” theory,

While I do have a longer post going more in-depth for this theory, I’m not really in a good state right now to finish it, but hopefully soon! But I wanted to make this quick post.

But part of the way we found out was a screen saying “REBCAM” and “MARCAM” in the security room.

With “REBCAM” referring most likely to Amanda and if we are correct “MARCAM” to Wooly.

Not only does this confirm that Wooly is a child, why would they have a Camera for an adult? Why would it be right next to another child? The point is we are given this information in the same vain as we are given the information on Rebecca’s camera, implying that it’s a similar case for Wooly.

But this might also confirm that he was raised by Hameln.

We know that Hameln has literal babies in there hands, with a lot of the monitors being on cribs and infants, along side a baby monitor on the desk and a baby gate (I can give screen shots if needed) this shows that they are most likely raising children for their own needs and interests, this alongside a whole lot of other clues (like Wooly never being mentioned by any outside person) lends itself to that theory!

[curliiwurlii]

There’s something I noticed in ATA1 that I want to add to the Amanda Monster being Rebecca’s body theory.

In ATA1, in the bad ending, you get killed by the Amanda monster. However, if you listen closely, when it screams, you can hear a child’s scream.

Now, they don’t use this child’s scream in the rest of its sounds, but this specific moment feels like it’s important in some way.

If we’re going with the theory that the Amanda monster was formed from Rebecca’s body, then the sound of a child’s scream coupled with demonic screaming really adds to it when you think about the fact that Rebecca was an underdeveloped child when her mind we transferred into the show.

Another thing: doesn’t the monster’s design look like it’s decaying in some way?

Really grey skin with flesh being visible from it (might be REALLY thin skin) and a visible bone structure? That might be what Amanda meant when she said she feels like she’s rotting- her real body decaying as it’s being controlled by the monster (basically a skin walket haha).

Just a small addition to the theory, hope it makes sense 👍

[doodledork01]

Ok, imma share my personal theory on Amanda the adventurer.

I think wooly is the half of Rebecca, Amanda/the other half of Rebecca wants to repress and get rid of

It might also just be Sam, but I never really liked that theory because Amanda seems to like Sam more, and I don’t think would knowingly act that way towards him as wooly(she could also just not know witch is why I think the point still stands) and he can’t be Jordan, since it seems to be the opossum when he was calling out for his sister Johanne

But my reasoning is that wooly shares the same personality as Rebecca before her soul got trapped. Shy, trusting, and agreeable. Something Rebecca would grow to hate if she got put into a situation like this. Plus Amanda is always giving wooly crap about being a sheep/a follower. Being to cowardly to stand up for himself. But as much as she hates him, he’s the only one she can’t get rid of, even when she “kills” him in the first game, he comes back again good as new, not acting like anything ever happened. They already established that she can manipulate anything in the environment, so why couldn’t she get rid of him if she hates him so much? Speaking of manipulation, there is some evidence in the first game that wooly can also manipulate the environment when he wants you to pick the birthday card for Amanda to give to him for his birthday(also his birthday being the day she remembers “something bad happened” aka when Rebecca died and got split in half)

And in the second game, wooly comes back, trying to distract from the weirdness, and focus on going on adventures. Being a part of Rebecca, wooly desperately tries to cheer Amanda up, like in the story time video, but really just tells the story that he wants to hear, and gets increasingly mad when the story is change to a sadder ending. Something he doesn’t want to think about. there is also a lot of imagery of three colors. red, blue, and lavender(aka purple) shown around the game. Two separate colors that are usually shown to be the opposite of each other making up a new color? Seems like symbolism to me. But the symbolism goes even deeper with the can we fix it tape, the first time we see it it glitches out and we’re shown images of Amanda and wooly being fused together, but both seem to not want to fully fuse, so they end up becoming some kind of monster instead. As well as in the end where they’re trying to fix a butterfly which I think is supposed to represent Rebecca’s brain(mostly because of when it glitches out and becomes what looks like a brain for a second). Wooly is so desperate to fix it despite being against fixing stuff at first, while Amanda becomes sad and thinks there is not point trying to fix it.

That’s just a messy way of saying my theory is that Amanda and wooly are bother a part of Rebecca and the only way to free them is to help wooly get brave and get Amanda to accept him as part of her(I could also be entirely wrong, that’s how theories work)

[theamityelf]

Also, I think Amanda's backpack might be important. Mainly because there was a moment where Wooly asked if she was keeping rotten eggs in her pocket but the captions said "backpack" instead of "pocket", which probably isn't a clue because I don't think they put clues in accessibility aids? But then later her backpack was mentioned again, and once again it was brought to the viewer's attention that she isn't wearing her backpack. The backpack is an integral part of Dora's look. It doesn't seem to be an integral part of Amanda's; she isn't wearing a backpack in the logo. But we didn't have a Swiper figure in the first installment and now we do. Is the backpack going to be important?

[ericaportfolio]

Spoilers to those who watched the Amanda the Adventure 3 Trailer!

I think we can all agree that an Hour of Joy situation occurred in this abandoned Hamlin Facility, which we're going to. Despite it looking too clean for comfort, I got that weird feeling that something crazy happened there that caused everyone to vanish without a trace.

[cctypical]

wait like I already knew this but now I’m thinking about ata 3. Amanda will be all like “ay wassup blud” and she’ll look around for wooly to come in, get annoyed/tired of waiting, and continue without him. Then in the next tape he finally shows up, but is really dissociated and out of it cuz he still can’t process what he did to Joanne. He’s ignoring amanda and looking the other way and fidgeting and shit (yknow! LIKE THE DEMO!) and only answers direct questions amanda has to repeat herself several times and oh boy she’s losing her patience with this 🍑.

but now I’m thinking if it actually was amanda who said “WOOLY STOP” then she would know somehow. she would have witnessed him crash out and go, and only hear screams (that’s my theory, the tv isn’t even close to Kate’s office) and in the third game she would keep glaring at him and side eyeing him and shit like “mate what is WRONG WITH YOU” “just so yk I hate you”

god dammit I made an au accidentally AGAIN

After listening over 100 times and with the help of tiktok I was finally able to hear the "WOOLY STOP" during the true ending. 😭😭😭😭

People also saying it's Amanda saying this too?

I don't think Wooly has the same control over his monster like Amanda does so that's sad.

Imagine Wooly being horrified by what he did to Joanne... (looks at Play My Way Mr Fox and how he reacted)

[maddy-k-reads-all-day]

Just wanna say...

I feel like whatever happened between Wooly and Amanda, Hameln might have something to do with it.

Think about it, why would Hameln ever want these two working together?!

We've seen what happens when they work together (I mean mostly in the final tape when they take out the opossum) like they were so in sync about it, too. Barely any verbal communication needed. In fact, in the verison, you don't help them they kick the opossums butt while they yell at you for not helping (lol)

Mind you, we now know both of them have demons, and as we saw from Amanda, the demons listen to their commands. Now imagine if both of them focused their energy at getting back at Hameln.

Hameln doesn't want Amanda to have any help. Not from Kate and her friends. Not from us. Definitely not from Wooly. They're waaaaay too powerful when they work together.

So, like I said... Hameln might've been involved with their falling out. Obviously, it doesn't change the fact that Wooly did... something. But still, I think Hameln made the situation worse somehow.

[noelianoe1]

Funny Mr Rooster

I didn't see anyone talking about this so I want to bring it up, I'm about 80% sure that Wooly gave the plastic rooster to Amanda, first why doesn't Amanda say who gave it to her directly, and we see that in those moments she doesn't want to talk about Wooly in general (of course, without us asking, when she says "if you can find him" does she mean his dead body?) so she says "someone" when she was sad and scared, it could have been a lot before the most current events, another reason why I believe this, is that Wooly has some kind of clown suit, I don't think the nose is the only thing on his wool, we know that Wooly likes funny things so it could have been part of his original material before he gave it to Amanda

[cctypical]

HOT TAKE - Wooly doesn’t remember his own death.

I really need to talk about this it’s been on my mind FOREVER. I don’t think anyone’s thought abt this yet. There’s so much evidence to back this I keep finding but at the same time it could contradict this theory idk. Only 10 photos allowed on mobile so I’ll just describe his movements

About the trip cameo, there’s nothing really interesting there, other than the fact he just walks in casually and you can hear his voice fluctuate between panic as he’s driven away (that one “hey” sounded really violent)

So he slides in right. Amanda immediately lunges for him. It takes him a second to look at her, realise what she’s doing, and THEN try to run away but at that point she already on top of him. First of all why is he so fucking JOLLY. You’ve just been MURDERED hell knows how you’re alive again. Yes he’s acting yes he’s suppressing his emotions but you think it’d take him a while to yknow. RECOVER. Second of all he deadass thought it was a good idea to show himself IN FRONT OF HER when she wants nothing to do with him. She even asks him “don’t you get that” she made it pretty clear when she LITERALLY MURDERED HIM. Third of all it just really doesn’t seem like he was expecting it to happen at all. Like he hears her scream, whips around like “what you doin” and only seems to step so he can be out of the way of whatever she’s doing, not expecting to get attacked.

Ok. Moving on. (GET IT GET THE REFRENCE) They’re back in place. NOW he’s nervous. Looks away before looking towards the screen. “I don’t want you here” she leans towards him a lil bit. He backs up, leans away from her, closes in on himself. “I’m your best friend” putting on the act while STILL leaning away from her. At this point note what Amanda’s doing. Attacking him didn’t work but she really wants him to go away, now she’s just expressing her hatred and raising her voice. “All you do is GET ON MY-“ she steps towards him, not intending to hurt him anymore, just yelling, but he goes on the defense, raising his hands for protection and cowering as she looms over him. THIS my pookies is what we call a trigger (OH BOY TRIGGERS) amanda getting angry triggered him and gave him that feeling of danger, causing him to get scared and try protect himself.

Rest of the tape is relatively normal in terms of dynamic, a few concerning moments there but nothing to yap about. “Greeaat idea to warn the birds” all she did was talk to him in a disapproving tone, something she does ALL THE TIME and he still got defensive over it for no reason. He jumps as soon as she opens her mouth, frantically looks at us then her, raises him arms up and stutters “I-I DIDNT MEAN-!“ trying to explain himself desperately to not get in more trouble.

When You’re Feeling Bad. Wooly suggests going on an adventure, immediately regrets his decision. Backs up again, closes in on himself again (raptor arms up) type in horror/scary. Puts his arms up and starts hyperventilating. Obviously this is ptsd from before, ONLY triggered when you mention it. (I JUST NOTICED SOMETHING. when it’s typed in the lamp turns off for a second, and turns back on after he’s had his panic attack. also the camera ever so slightly zooms in when it glitches back to wooly in that split second)

Random one. “SHUT UP… wooly” he jumps and looks shocked

Treasure hunting. Now this one is a lil interesting. “Where’d ya hide the loot” she shoves the shovel, a BLADE, the supposedly sharp end DIRECTLY AT HIS NECK, so much he had to back up to not actually get hit. Other than putting his arms up (for like the fifth fucking time) he is COMPLETELY UNFAZED. “Careful, or you’ll break it” in the most monotone ahh voice imaginable. You’d THINK that pointing a giant sharp object in his face would act as some sort of trigger but nope he’s fine. Fucking dandy.

Ofc this is all to be expected considering we know he fears her at times but it’s just SO. WEIRD TO ME. He comes in, completely unfazed by what’s happened and acts relatively normal the entire rest of the time. He’s only triggered when one, Amanda gets mad at him and two, the subject of horror/death is brought up. If he had the physical/mental memory of who tf knows what she did to him (srsly we don’t even know. SHE COULDVE SLOWLY TORN HIS LIMBS APART WE DONT FUCKING KNOW) wouldn’t he act idk a lil more traumatised? Wouldn’t he be a little more apprehensive of what he does to not anger her? He just doesn’t act like someone who’s just been clapped and is trying not to get clapped again bro is LITERALLY taking his CHANCES. I think what it is is he straight up has no memory of what happened, EXCEPT when he’s triggered he gets that bad feeling of immediate danger like how he felt before being killed, and goes into defensive mode, then COMPLETELY FORGETS ABOUT IT (he goes back to being calm with “that’s gonna take a looot of PATIENCEEE”) (“I wish I hadn’t asked” resumes what he’s doing immediately) it’s not like “oh shit she’s gonna kill me again” it’s like he has gets the fight or flight response out of nowhere and has the sudden need to defend himself juuust in case she gets too mad

I am TELLING YALL HES BUILT DIFFERENT. HE DOESNT KNOW.

[maddy-k-reads-all-day]

Oh my gosh two of my favorite psychological horrors in one?! Also I absolutely love the idea of an Amanda/Madoka Magica crossover as they have a lot of overlapping themes if you think about it.

Hiii!! Can you draw Amanda the Adventurer as a witch please? Btw, I LOVE your art! It captures the vibe of PMMM perfectly!

Hello! Thank you so much for your kind words I took a tiny bit of inspiration from the entity in the game that resembles Amanda :]

Coppélia : the exploration witch

[seasonalmoss]

Your twin said you liked getting asks on theories so here's one for you!

Moving away from Amanda and Wooly. What's your theory on what happened to Sam? My personal fav is that he is the narrator. Because Sam was shown to be a storyteller, and it makes sense to me that he'd be the one to cheer her up... but it's also tragic because he can never be there with her physically. But enough about my thoughts, I wanna hear yours!

Also any meatman theories?

SAM!!! Dude I love all of the characters but some of the characters outside of the TV show needs more recognition, so characters like Joanne, Kate and of course Sam. So I’m happy you asked that!

So there’s not much I can say here to be completely honest! I’m mostly a theorist when it comes to character’s personalities and their trauma responses, when it comes to events I definitely have thoughts for sure! But a lot of the time things are often too vague or there just isn’t enough information for me to personally say anything. I guess it’s that fear of being wrong? Because events are a lot more jurassic then let’s say getting a minor thing on a character wrong. But regardless I’ll answer the best I can and my own personal thoughts!

I personally think Sam was simply killed, OR something else happened to him but we just don’t see it yet. I think that Sam was kidnapped and then coerced into trying to trick Amanda, but he refused so he was killed or harmed in some regard.

Hameln seems to mostly want kids trapped in their TV show and not adults, the line “here at Hameln we believe that every child has a creative light within” shows this (off topic I wonder where that came from? Was it an interview? A public announcement or something by one of the Hameln directors?) . and with the story that the company name is based off of “the Piped Piper” I don’t think they have much of an interest or want to have adults in the TV show. The line “every child has a creative light within” sorta imply that they want specifically kids because they hold something convenient within them that would make it easier on whatever they’re trying to achieve (many things I can say about that, but this isn’t a Hameln rant)

so that makes me doubt he’s a character in the TV show, at the very least not an active character who can speak or move but something more inanimate.

I tend to go with the more likely scenario with the evidence we have, which is that Sam was killed by Hameln. but lemme go against myself! But then lemme defend myself.

Yeah sure they could just kill Sam but why would they? The more practical element would be to continue to use him in some way. Then again if he continues to defy them what else are they to do but kill him? He’s a full grown adult man, and for some reason that makes me doubt their ability to do things to him. but again Amanda’s dad would he an incredibly useful tool to have. I think whatever happens it would just show more about what we know of Sams personality, if he did continue to defy them which caused them to have to kill him, that says a lot about who Sam is and honestly doesn’t seem too far off on what I already know of him. But again it he listened to them and didn’t defy them too much? That also says a lot about him too!

^ It’s also important to note that, I feel like even if he did defy a lot there was a level of “I have to do this for my child” that he clearly exhibits, so who’s to say they forced him into doing something and THEN he defied them. When he realized that it did not help his daughter in any way he tried his best to go against them. This also isn’t taking account any kind of psychological or physical torture Hameln might’ve done to gander better results. a lot of this in general is dictated by who Sam is as a character and there’s a lot I can say about that.

I should be use to games like ATA not having the “most likely scenario” happen, as really, in a game like ATA anything could’ve gone down! So this is more so a note for myself and it could be likely that Sam is ANYONE, and we just don’t think it (he isn’t Wooly though that’s obvious to me)

The rooster symbolism for Sam seems incredibly deliberate to me. And makes me think more then just “they killed him” went down, that being said I don’t think there’s much (yet) to imply what that is.

On a side note I do think that the clothes they find in the “Let’s Hunt for Treasure” tape might (massive maybe here) resemble Sam in some way? Mostly because the colors are generally more cool toned and all of Sams outfits (excluding the tape with him when Hameln was trying to get him to say something) have been cool toned. Amanda’s reaction could also maybe show this? She’s horrified but I also doubt she knows what happened to her father, all she knows is that these clothes somewhat resemble her dad, and she doesn’t want to think that her dad died, hence why she was quick to bury it?? Not to sure. (but it also could be all of the kids that were trapped and then killed? Idk)

I mostly think that he’s dead since it was the Rooster thing specially that Amanda chose to sell and the emphasis of it floating off into the sky sorta implies that he died.

I can also note some other things about the flashes that shows up at times when you type in “Sam” but… lemme be honest here I honestly don’t know what they mean besides the obvious “Hameln did something to him” sure I can make guess? But they’d be nothing but me throwing stuff at the wall until a conclusion happens.

meatman/ Butcher theories???? UH- wow there’s a lot I can say here? But that would need a post of it’s own. But here’s what I’ll list

I think he’s one of the only adults who’s actually physically in the TV show. As in, he’s a independent character within it and not just some inanimate object. He was definitely put there to keep an eye in some way and to achieve something.

I do think he was or is connected to the surgeon that performed/ experimented on Amanda (and by extension the other children)

I think he has a deeper more interesting and personal connection to Wooly then people think? Again this would need another entire post of its own.

Idk I get the feeling he’s more scientific then people think? And I think he has a connection with the pigs that often show up. Which is to say I think what the pigs are meant to show is how they eat basically anything. Not sure if it’s true but there’s been stories and I’ve heard of pigs being used to dispose of bodies since they can and will try to eat everything that you give them disregarding the obvious stuff. And when the pigs show up they’re always eating in some way. I think there’s something to be said there. I also think that in general the pigs are symbolic. (I just feel like ATA has a lot of very literal things happen and show up in tandem with symbolism)

all of this is poorly worded but yeah that’s what I think!

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Totally forgot this part but notice how the demon can take the form of Amanda AND wooly

Almost like wooly can take control of the demon like Amanda just like he can manipulate things in the real world ALSO like Amanda aka like REBECCA

(Also I’m sure it’s the same demon since they also put the multiple white eyes on it like the Amanda demon, just with some turning into sheep eyes to represent wooly starting to take control)