#and how the factors of that paired with their rocky relationship set a fuck shit thing in jason

[boarcide]

I wish less Jason's fans discounted comic canon to built up their fanon ideas of his and Dick's relationship in Jason's Robin's days, then spread their ideas to the fandom as if it were the truth. Or that less Jason's fans took this has The Truth without fact checking first. Dick being mean to Robin!Jason didn't even last one issue, and Jason wasn't a saint either then. They were both in good terms afterwards. There's even some evidence that they would go on vacation together sometimes.

Man is this about the meme I made about the "Dick with Robin! Jason vs Dick with everyone else" meme? Ffs.

That meme is as canonical as Tim being a coffee addict or Bruce being a good dad.

I kinda realized,,,that people didn't actually take it as a meme? Like idk what to tell you, i didn't make that meme because it reflected Canon, and I don't know what I wrote in there that made anyone else believe I believe it's Canon. I never said it was. The tags literally say, "for legal reasons this is a joke" because I knew some mfs were gonna find a reason to get angry, but it's in the tags please read them sometime.

And this isn't directed towards you, anon. Your message is actually pretty tame compared to the others I've gotten, but like,,,?? Yeah. I've already said it that it is a literal meme.

Idk what to tell you

[sasuita]

would you mind sharing your thoughts on sasuke and his interactions with team taka compared to with team 7?

Right, so. I’ll put the TL;DR at the top, because my post will basically amount to this: Team 7 is bad for Sasuke. Taka is good for Sasuke. 

I also can’t promise this post is like...organized lol. 

I get why people obsess over Team 7. It’s the team Sasuke was originally in, sometimes they function to do some cool shit, and the fandom (and 3/4 of the team’s members) have an obsession with keeping the original team together. ...Even if they barely function. No, I’m not counting Yamato or Sai* for this post.

The team is grossly overhyped, to the point people try to claim it functions better than the other teams presented in the manga. Yet no one stops to realize that the other teams never had a member bail on them and have never had major issues with getting along and producing teamwork. Team 7 is rife with problems from the very beginning. For one, prior to the team’s creation, Sakura is Naruto’s bully. And Naruto frequently harasses Sasuke. Sakura is also obsessed with Sasuke, a love that is, by Kishimoto himself, described as selfish. And wew, throughout this 700 chapter run this love continues to be just that, selfish. 

It’s Sasuke that originally introduces teamwork to the team. Sasuke forfeits his lunch to Naruto first, Sasuke prepares himself for Kakashi to come down on them. Sakura is aghast, why would he disobey!? Turns out Sasuke’s kindness passed them the test. But even after that, their teamwork is basically non-existent. Prior to the Land of Waves mission, Naruto is absolutely obsessed with the idea that Sasuke is out to make him look stupid or weak, when Naruto is the one absolutely fucking up every D-rank they go on. Even Sakura is preferable here, she’s actually working with Sasuke like a platoon should. Sasuke is more than willing to work with Naruto if Naruto could let his freak complex go for five minutes to do something as an actual squad.

Now-- this post isn’t to claim Sasuke doesn’t care for Team 7; specifically Naruto, and Sakura. He does, and I won’t claim otherwise. It’s just in Sasuke’s nature, he can’t help it, he isn’t a hateful/spiteful person by nature, and feelings like that he has to actively work to maintain. So despite both of these people being unhealthy for Sasuke, he grew to care for them anyways. This is highlighted when he’s willing to sacrifice his life to save Naruto from Haku. His body moved on its own-- his instinct to protect people is just that strong. And again during the fight with Gaara. He expresses he doesn’t want to lose people close to him again, and he is willing to use his  body to break Naruto’s fall. 

It’s possible to care deeply for people who are bad for you. This kind of stuff happens all the time. 

When Sasuke leaves, the worst traits of T7 come to play. This unending, absolute obsession with bringing Sasuke back and completing the team. To complete the “nostalgia.” Sakura sings her own number when one of her selling points to Sasuke is how it would make her feel. And again in 693 this argument is presented;

“If we’re together again, I’m sure we could go back to those days...” What days? Genin days? Days that were apparently hunky-dory for you. Not a single thought to how those days were for Sasuke. It’s ALL about the nostalgia factor and how she felt during that time in childhood. It’s all about bringing him back to complete a set. 

Naruto is his own set of problems. He feels dangerously entitled to bringing Sasuke back. He sure gets pissed off about Orochimaru claiming Sasuke is his, for a person who also considers Sasuke his. How about Sasuke doesn’t belong to anyone? Nah, that’s not something Naruto is going to consider. Everything is about bringing Sasuke back. He’s willing to break bones and beat him to a pulp and drag him back. What a nice friendship. 

Naruto consistently claims Sasuke as a friend; “because i’m YOUR friend”, lording that over Sasuke, he’s decided apparently and Sasuke has no say in it. And in fact, the only times Sasuke says it back is when he’s about to kill him. Naruto seriously fucked up the definition of the word friend for Sasuke, there’s a scary reason why Sasuke won’t call anyone else that specific term. 

It’s worth mentioning in both Sakura’s novel and Sasuke’s novel, Sakura decides the proper way to get Sasuke into a relationship with her is by chasing him and continually confessing until he’s too exhausted to say no. His no is irrelevant anyways, she won’t listen.

I probably missed some stuff, but now I want to talk about Taka.

The first big difference in Taka vs T7 is that Sasuke chose Taka. He personally chose these people himself, and not even on a whim. He’d  planned these specific people for a very long time. Sasuke has a level of agency here, in that he chose who to surround himself with, as opposed to people being selected for him. Taka has issues in the beginning, sure, but no member feels dangerously entitled to his feelings or time. 

“but Karin!”

Karin’s attracted to him, and would rather have him alone, sure. But Karin knows when to back off from Sasuke, and doesn’t spent her time wailing to him about how her feelings matter over his. She doesn’t ignore his agency in a dangerous manner. 

Taka starts off rocky, with Suigetsu warning Sasuke about Karin, and then both of them warning Sasuke about Juugo. But once the team is together they know how to communicate and work together. They have scrolls to warn each other something has happened, as shown when Sasuke fights Deidara and has to summon Manda to survive. They take care of Sasuke when he is healing, and then  effectively lead the Leaf village shinobi astray as Sasuke moves to get Itachi’s location. They also stay together during that fight, and quickly come back to Sasuke’s side after Itachi is killed.

Sasuke originally said his goal was to kill Itachi; that being the team’s only reason to stay together. Yet....Taka remains a group even after Itachi is dead. They still want to remain by Sasuke’s side, and help him in his endeavors.

Taka all have something in common-- people used or otherwise abandoned by the system, and taken advantage of. Karin was orphaned when she alone could detect her village’s oncoming massacre, Suigetsu was kidnapped to be tortured/experimented on by Orochimaru, Juugo could literally not find help for his condition anywhere else and turned to Orochimaru. We all know Sasuke’s story too. And of course, by the look of the post-ending material, literally no one wanted anything to do with Taka’s members, forcing them all to go back to Orochimaru. 

The main takeaway from this is that Taka’s members don’t feel as if their own desires supercede Sasuke’s in such a manner that it’s harmful to Sasuke. They are a cohesive unit, where as T7 only works in pairs, IE, Naruto/Sasuke will occasionally fight well as a duo, Sakura/Naruto fight well as a duo. Instead of wanting and demanding something from Sasuke, Taka stands up for him and helps him. Suigetsu thinks VERY highly of Sasuke, telling the prisoners he’s freeing in Orochimaru’s lair that Sasuke is here to bring justice and peace to the ninja world. Juugo wants nothing more than to stay by his side and support him, and Karin, while attracted to him, is more than happy to step down and let Sasuke fall in love with someone else, because him being able to be happy is more important. (This isn’t me saying I like SS or he’s happy in SS, just Karin’s logic.)

*I consider Sai a part of T7, purely because Sai actually wants to be in it, and he cares for both Naruto and Sakura’s well being. Too bad Naruto and Sakura could give less of a shit about that, because dragging Sasuke back into a team he doesn’t want to be in is more important. Again....nostalgia factor.

[alb-ni-m-fia]

Why am I so nice?

Growing up, you're told about how you should treat others the way you wanted to be treated. The golden rule. And you take it to heart because you certainly don't want to be treated bad. So you become the rainbow to other people's storms. You do the best you can to be the person that will show respect and kindness towards others and be the general "best friend". 

That makes you easy to step on

A little background: all throughout middle school and high school, I’ve been in and out of relationships. Girlfriend would always break up with me. I would be down and in the dumps for abouuut a week (tops) and then I would be over it.

Senior year. Met a girl at a summer Christian camp that I worked at. We hit it off pretty well. Dated for at least a year and a half. It was a good relationship. We genuinely had fun together and I saw myself spending my life with this woman. Was I thinking about this at too young of an age? Was I being naive? Who can even tell? Everything was going well. At least I thought it was. And then college started.

We go to our own separate campuses and try to see each other when we can. Normal long-distance stuff. She begins to go to parties. I showcase my worry, but she tells me that she’s being careful. Ok. I trust her. Everything’s fine.

Everything was not fine.

Long story short, it started out small and got worse and worse until the point where she cheated on me by having sexual relations with another man.

Shot to the gut.

BUT I STAYED WITH HER

Here’s the thing. You teach yourself the “golden rule” and its ingrained in your head. Everything was laid out for me to leave. There was my opportunity. And I didn’t take it. Because I believed in US. Like “we can get through this.” kinda stuff. And we try. For a few weeks I tried to forgive her and move on from the fact that there was a moment where she wasn’t thinking about me while a man asked her if it was alright to insert himself into her.

I couldn’t do it. I ended our relationship. I just couldn’t handle it. It was like a burn on your forearm that just wouldn’t heal. It took me -years- to get over her. And to be completely honest, I don’t know if I’ve 100% forgiven her.

From that day on, I gave myself a zero tolerance for cheating. So much as kiss another person, you’re gone.

But that’s not the end of the story. That’s not why I’m writing this.

I’m about to go into grad school. I reconnect with a friend from back home and we hit off. Yada, yada. You know how it goes.

She is about to begin her undergrad. We do long-distance. She begins to go to parties.

Do you see the pattern?

I express my concern. I tell her about my previous relationship and how I am afraid for what may become of us if she were to continue going to parties. Here’s the problem: She’s part of a sorority. So she can’t just stop going to them. They’re an obligation. And she joined with the intention of looking for friends (genuine friends. It was that fear of going-to-college-and-not-having-any-friends kind of thing).

Fine. I can cope. Its just parties. She can be careful. I need to trust her. I do trust her. I can’t be mad at her for this. I need to support her. This is her decision. She is a rational adult. Its fine. Its fine. Its fine.

“I drank too much last night.”

Ok well that’s kind of scary. I mean something could of happened. You never know who can be at these parties and you don’t know what other people’s intentions are and...

PARANOIA

Every time I got a text at 2 or 3 in the morning, I prayed to God that she would be alright. I constantly anticipated the time where things went too far. But they didn’t come. She was always looked after by friends. She was safe. There were a few times where boys were being inexcusable bags of shits and tried to get with her. Herself, as well as her friends, would shrug them off, saying how she was already taken and all that jazz. It was...refreshing to see this. I din’t know if this happened with the previous relationship, so this reassurance was a sigh of relief.

Then things get rocky. Not because of the parties (it was always rocky for me on the inside when it came to parties), but because some differences between us were starting to become a glaring problem that they needed to be addressed. We didn’t really know how to resolve these issues, so our relationship kind of became a stranded boat in the middle of the ocean. During this rocky period, girlfriend is becoming unsure if our relationship will last. And yea I guess we have our differences...

BUT I STAY WITH HER

I want things to work out. At this point, I’m having thoughts of marriage. And when it comes to issues, we’ve talked our way through things and we made things work. I wanted to apply that logic to this. Just like I always have. Just talk. Don’t speak out of emotion. Think rationally. You can do this.

“A lot of guys flirt with me, and sometimes I flirt back.”

No. No no no no. Do not start with this.

I express immediate dislike. Stop this at once. You cannot be doing this to me. We are suppose to be a team here. I get it. You’re confused. You’re unsure of our future. I’ll give you that. That’s why we need to work together. We need to figure this out like we always have. Ok? You were at a party? Ok, so I’m assuming intoxication, correct? Ok. Thought so. So alcohol played a factor in this. Ok. Alcohol does some messed up things inside people, so its possible that your actions are just the alcohol talking. Ok. I’ll give you that.

“I kissed a girl.”

Alcohol...is bad. Please. I’m really worried about this. This is getting worse. Why are you continuing down this road. You call right before my class starts to tell me this?

This was the first time I ever became upset at my significant other. With any of my significant others.

She profusely apologizes. Promise that it won’t happen again. Hey, remember my new rule? About zero tolerance for cheating? In my book, I’m pretty sure this falls into that category. So congratulations. You’ve given me a reason to break up with you on a giant silver platter. Look at it. It would be so easy to just say it. Say it and it’ll be over.

BUT I STAY WITH HER

At this point, I’m questioning myself. I’ve set this new rule for me, and I broke it. I broke my own rule. WHY. WHYWHYWHYWHYWHY? WHY do I do this to myself. Why do I continuously try to hold on to a relationship that is falling apart at the seems? Why does this happen to the good guy? Oh look. Party. Again, huh? Its always the fucking parties. I hate them. So...you were drunk and kissed a girl. You know what? Alcohol caught you again and played you for a puppet and you weren’t really doing it because you wanted to so I can understand.

4 hours ago. Today. 5/12/17 Writing this part at aprox. 2 AM.

“I made out. With the same girl a few nights ago.”

“I was there and she was invited and it just kind of happened.”

“I am so sorry. I’m such a shitty person.”

“Please forgive me”

.

.

.

You ever get that feeling when someone you thought cared about you suddenly does a 180 degrees? But also in a way, they are beginning to burn the bridge that closes the gap between you? This is happening to me right now. My fears are coming true. It is getting worse. I feel like this is spiraling out of control. I have no way of stopping this. It has been a constant upward battle of keeping faith in us as a pair and in keeping trust in her from doing things she knows she isn’t suppose to do. 

At this point. She has gone above and beyond to give me a reason to break up with her. And you know what? I contemplated just that. You’re right. You have been treating me as something on the back burner. I feel like while you are confused as to how our relationship stands, you go out and do what you set your mind to and live life the way you want to live it and really not consider me in the picture. Because why not? I might not be in the picture soon anyway! So who gives a flying fuck? You might as well consider us broken up!

And yet...Something in me stops me from saying those sharp 5 words. A reason. A reason to stay together. A light at the end of the tunnel. The sun after a thunderstorm. 

And I don’t know what it is. The things that’s holding me back is the thing that isn’t making its identity known.

CONFLICT. TORN. 

WHY DON’T WE JUST KILL THIS ALREADY. SHE’S BASICALLY ASKING FOR IT AT THIS POINT

She’s a broken person. She needs to be given a chance to redeem herself.

YOU GAVE HER TOO MANY OF THOSE ALREADY. THIS IS JUST GOING TO GET WORSE.

Yea I’m afraid of that, but do you hear her voice? She’s trembling. She’s genuinely sorry for what she’s done. She wants to be forgiven.

YOU’RE TOO SOFT.

But don’t you agree?

I’M TRYING TO PROTECT YOU. LOOK AT WHAT’S HAPPENED BEFORE. THIS EXACT SAME SHIT HAPPENED YEARS AGO AND YOU STILL AREN’T 100%.

I’m trying, Ok?

I’M SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE STEPPING ALL OVER US BECAUSE YOU GIVE THEM TOO MUCH RESPECT. TOO MUCH COMFORT. TOO MUCH LOVE. TOO. MANY. CHANCES.

If I behave like that then we won’t have anybody now will we?!?

I’M JUST SICK OF IT!

You know what? Maybe I can’t say it. Maybe I can’t tell myself to say something that will end a relationship with her. I love her. 

WHY THE HELL NOT? ITS EASY.

You know damn well that it isn’t easy.

LOOK. YOU’VE BEEN STEPPED ON BY SO MANY WOMEN IN YOUR LIFE AND YOU JUST LET IT SLIDE. WHY?

I’m just nice to them. I do everything I think is right. We’re a decent guy! So I don’t know. I don’t know and I ask myself that every day.

CAUSE YOU’RE SO GODDAMN NICE.

People like that about me.

RIIIGHT. AND YOU ALWAYS GIVE THEM YOUR EAR OR A HELPING HAND. THAT’S GREAT AND ALL. REAL PROUD OF YOU. BUT LOOK WHERE THAT GOT YOU.

I need to make a decision. I need to determine whether I’m going to destroy this or try to salvage it.

OH FOR THE LOVE OF...ITS SIMPLE!

Its not.

JUST SAY IT!

No.

WHY NOT?

Because. We can still make this work. I know we can

BULLSHIT.

We’ve done it before. We can get through this.

DON’T GIVE ME THAT CLICHE BULLSHIT. YOU KNOW THIS IS JUST GOING TO GET WORSE.

No it won’t.

WATCH. YOU’RE GONNA CHOOSE TO STAY TOGETHER AND THEN YOU WILL GET SHIT ON. BECAUSE ITS HAPPENED BEFORE. AND IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.

Stop it.

DON’T BELIEVE ME? TRY ME.

I won’t let you win.

YOU CAN’T FORCE ME AWAY.

Go away. I hate you. I hate this side of us.

GIVE IN.

No.

GIVE IIIIIIN.

Mm,

GIVE. IN.

“I think we need to stop.”

I said it. Those words came out of my mouth. And in this FaceTime call, I saw her face. And the color began to flush from her face.

Its frozen now....reconnecting...

Call dropped.

.

.

Nothing but the black screen of my iPad and the reflection of my face. Did she hear me? What is thinking now? 

DOESN’T IT FEEL GOOD?

I feel terrible. I feel like I’ve committed a crime.

ITS OVER NOW.

No. I don’t want it to be over

GET USE TO IT.

What if she calls back?

SHE WO-

*Incoming Facetime*

The moment I saw her face, I took it all back. I profusely stated that I didn’t want that to happen. I didn’t want us to break up. I wanted us to be a pair. I wanted us to be partners. I wanted us to work this out. I didn’t want to lose her. I can’t lose her. I just can’t. She’s wasn’t confident in us before but she is going to try to be now, despite our differences. And I will do so likewise. With all my might> I will do the best that I can to improve and I will do whatever it takes. I love her.

So yes. I stayed with her. We are still together. We will work things out.

I don’t know why I’m doing this.

YOU DISAPPOINT ME.

Things will change. Just watch. We can get through this.

WHAT’S THE REASON YOU’RE STILL WITH HER? IT CAN’T BE ANYTHING MATERIAL AT THIS POINT.

I love her.

RIGHT. YOU “LOVE” PORN TOO. WANNA MARRY THAT?

...

YOU HAVEN’T BEEN GETTING MUCH LOVE FROM HER NOW. YOU’VE RESORTED BACK TO YOUR GOOD OL’ HABITS. SUCKS DOESN’T IT? BUT JUST THINK OF THAT IMMEDIATE GRATIFICATION. HEY! THAT GIRL IN YOUR 8 AM LECTURE. THE ONE WHO SITS IN THE THIRD ROW. SHE’S PRETTY CUTE ISN’T SHE? SHE SEEMS TO BE INTO YOU.

...That’s you talking. Nothing will ever come from that. Because we are with her.

IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT HER? WHY? WHY STAY WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS TRAMPLED YOU OVER AND OVER AGAIN?

I already told you

...

...

YOU KNOW I ALREADY KNOW THE REASON. I’M JUST TRYING TO GET YOU TO SAY IT.

...

...

...I don’t want to be alone.

THEEERE YOU GO.