#andy/haley

[j5fan1]

Modern Family’s Andy & Haley Were Supposed To Be The Real Endgame!

On February 17, 2017, my sister and I met Adam Devine after the Madison, Wisconsin show during his “Weird Life Tour 2017.” We had a really interesting conversation with him that I will never forget. I told him I missed him on “Modern Family” because he was my favorite guest star ever on the show and l loved Andy's relationship with Haley and his bromance with Phil. He told me that the creators asked him to be a series regular, but he turned them down because he was too busy with “Workaholics” (a show he created, wrote, and acted on at the time). I told him he should take them up on their offer now that “Workaholics” is in its final season. He joked that he should go crawling back to them begging and pleading to them to let him back on the show. I laughed and said that I just really want Haley and Andy to end up together. He said he wanted that too. 

So, if what Adam told us is true, then Andy’s exit during the finale of season 7 of “Modern Family” was not supposed to be the end of his character and his relationship with Haley. The creators intended for Andy to stay on the show and eventually marry Haley. Going into season 8, the creators of “Modern Family” offered Adam Devine a series regular role that he had to turn down because he was too busy with “Workaholics.” In the book “Modern Family: The Untold Oral History of One of Television’s Groundbreaking Sitcoms” by Marc Freeman, Adam said it would have been difficult to make him a series regular because “Modern Family” would have been in second position.

However, Adam still wanted to guest star on the show like he had done in previous seasons. He just couldn’t commit to a whole season as a full-time cast member.

I think Adam rejecting their offer to be a series regular probably annoyed the creators so they decided to write his character out completely. According to Sarah Hyland (see the screenshot below) in the book “Modern Family: The Untold Oral History of One of Television’s Groundbreaking Sitcoms” by Marc Freeman, Adam had contacted them to see if they wanted to bring him back as a guest star, but they told him “they couldn’t find the funny between Andy and Haley anymore,” which is obviously not true if they thought he was funny enough to be a series regular on the show. I think they probably only said that because their egos were bruised when Adam had to turn their offer down. Also, if the writers really couldn’t find the funny in Andy and Haley anymore they’re basically saying they are bad at their job, lack creativity, and can only go for the easy jokes (look at Dylan be dumb, etc.).

Finally, in season 9 (episode 21: “The Escape”), Andy returned for one very disappointing episode in which the writers were really trying to push the Arvin and Haley relationship. I remember there was a lot of backlash from fans on social media after that episode aired and the majority of them were calling for the return of Andy and for Haley to end up with him. It seemed like the writers were ignoring what the majority of the audience wanted; however, it turns out this wasn’t the case because they actually tried to work out a deal with Adam to return in season 10, but his work schedule yet again made this deal impossible because he was now busy filming in South Carolina as a series regular on HBO’s “The Righteous Gemstones.” Co-creators Steven Levitan and Christopher Lloyd and writer/executive producer Danny Zuker discussed this topic in the book “Modern Family: The Untold Oral History of One of Television’s Groundbreaking Sitcoms” by Marc Freeman (see the screenshot below).

In March 2021, Adam was on an episode of Whitney Cummings’ “Good For You” Podcast where he talked about how the creators of Modern Family wanted him to return to the show so Andy could marry Haley. Adam wanted to return to the show too (skip to 1:01:16 to 1:03:39 on the video below). 

undefined

In the below screenshot (from the book “Modern Family: The Untold Oral History of One of Television’s Groundbreaking Sitcoms” by Marc Freeman), Adam elaborated on his feelings about his contract to return to the show falling apart.

Since Adam’s schedule made it impossible for him to return to the show, the writers decided to have Haley marry Dylan instead. Such a shame! Sarah Hyland even said she wanted Haley to end up with Andy and that she will ship them together forever (see the screenshot below from the book “Modern Family: The Untold Oral History of One of Television’s Groundbreaking Sitcoms” by Marc Freeman).

I wish we could have seen the creators’ original vision for their true intended endgame. In my opinion, Andy being a full-time cast member from season 8 to the end of the series would have been the best version of what could have been. That would have been amazing! Then, the second best version of what could have been would be Andy returning in season 10 and being on the show until the end of the series. Since, unfortunately, both of those versions of the show couldn’t be and currently the audience is left with an unfinished love story, I really hope someday for a reboot, limited series or spin-off of “Modern Family” in which Haley and Dylan are divorced and she remarries Andy. This would finally allow fans and the actors to get closure on the Andy and Haley story arc. Plus, Andy would make an awesome stepdad to Haley’s twins since he was such a great manny. They could even have a couple kids of their own. Personally, I like the thought of them having four kids (the twins and two others) like Adam joked they would in an old interview (skip to 3:46 to 4:20 in the video below). This would be the third best version of what could be for Andy and Haley, the couple who really deserved to be endgame and was supposed to be endgame! I just hope that someday the timing will finally be right to make this happen. Fingers crossed!

undefined

[emmafallsinlove]

Catastrophic blues Movin' on was always easy for me to do It hits different It hits different 'cause it's you

[sixofcrowley]

nahh cuz what are they putting in these sitcom ships??? you’ve literally got chandler and monica, peraltiago, pb&j, haleybailey AND SWARKLES

the chemistry in sitcom ships is just OFF THE CHARTS

[blackbullet99]

I don’t understand why Zutara shippers are so obsessed with hating Aang (or Kataang).

I understand they wish Zutara was canon, and that’s perfectly valid. I get why people ship it, and even though a good chunk of the toxic side of the ZK fandom say some pretty racist stuff, the ship is harmless. But the hate is vitriolic. You got to people like the-badger-mole, sokkastyles, longing-for-rain and they spend more time whining about Aang and his relationship with Katara than they talk about Zutara. They say the most objectively untrue stuff about Aang, Katara and Zuko as if making false claims about these characters is the only way to make their ship look good.

For example:

“Zuko did some bad things throughout the show, but Aang is worse because he never supported Katara and sexuality assaulted her. Not to mention Katara never had feelings for Aang, he was practically her son that she had to take care of”.

What ZKs actually sound like:

“Zuko did some bad things throughout the show, so we have to make Aang look worse by comparison to ensure that Zuko is a better match for Katara, despite his own problems, because surely a poorly timed kiss is the same is sexual assault. We falsely believe Aang never supported Katara because he didn’t agree with her seeking vengeance of the person who killed her mom, unlike Zuko who helped her out, meaning that one single episode must mean he’s the only one who supports Katara. Lastly, we have to find a way to make Katara’s obvious affection for Aang problematic, so let’s blow her motherly traits way out of proportion and say that any time she shows Aang affection, it’s a mom coddling her toddler, and yes Aang is a toddler because he’s BALD. So what that they kissed, they’re a mother and child. Also Katara emotionally supporting Aang is bad, she actually hates it. Dude trust me”.

They reason I bring this up is because I don’t understand why they have to be so bitter, it just makes them look pathetic that these people, some fully grown adults are so butthurt about a non-canon pairing from a 20 year old cartoon. Their media-illiterate ramblings don’t prove Aang and Katara are a bad couple, they just make it painfully obvious to anyone with a brain that these types of pathetic ZKs are just seething and coping.

Sure, you might say “I’m not one to talk” seeing as Kataang is canon, but let me tell you, I have my fair share of non-canon ships that I love.

I love Ichigo X Rukia, I think they have great chemistry and strong bond, I wish they were endgame, they felt like the heart and soul of Bleach. But I don’t hate Orihime, such a sweetheart (plus she gave us the Leekspin meme) her and Ichigo are cute, I just think Ichigo and Rukia are better.

I love Black Widow X Captain America from The MCU, they would’ve been a cute couple, they had good chemistry, they kissed for corn’s sake. I don’t care that much for Steve X Peggy, they’re kinda cute, but whatever, although I do really like Captain America’s ending. I don’t like Nat X Bruce, seeing as it came out of nowhere, but whatever, it didn’t last long anyway and I have nothing against either character.

If anything I’m more prone to getting annoyed when a beloved canon couple are broken up, all the build up thrown away and replaced with another character whom has less chemistry with the original. Case in point, Haley and Andy from Modern Family, they were so cute, they had great chemistry and there was so much build up, only for Andy to leave in the season where he and Haley become a couple. Then later Haley and her initial on again off again guy Dylan get together and I gotta say, I don’t like it. But I have nothing against the character, Dylan’s a sweet guy who genuinely loves Haley and matured a lot, and they’re in no way a bad or unhealthy couple, there are people who genuinely like them as a couple too. I do think Haley’s character was kinda done dirty, but that had absolutely nothing to do with what guy she ended up with.

The moral of this story is, you can like a non-canon ship and even dislike a canon ship without making up ridiculous reasons why and acting like a spoiled entitled brat like the vocal minority of ZeeK freaks from the the toxic side of the fandom.

[the-badger-mole]

Pirate Ships!

Non-canon ships are ubiquitous in fandoms, and we have all had the agony of seeing a couple who should have ended up together torn apart by imaginationless writing teams who just don't get it (I will never forgive what Modern Family did to Haley and Andy T^T). It's such a common experience, that I think the trope deserves it's own name, and I think that name should be Pirate Ships (based on this post for my main pirate ship).

So, since I've made my new side quest to make this an all fandoms thing, I want to know what your pirate ships are. What ships of yours did The Man try to sink that are still going at full mast? Reblog this and put them in the tags

[tana-draws]

fuck you *polyams rival ships*

(pick one of my ot3s based off two “rival ships” which can include anything from canon love triangles, two popular ships, canon ship and popular fanon one, really whatever I feel counts)

Please reblog for reach if you want

(also please don’t be super negative in the reblogs lol.)

[saturnslight]

the party ended 9 years ago and i’m still here… go stream 🫶🏻

[blairwaldcrf]

idk i'm obviously biased but "you're the first man i ever loved" kinda disqualifies previous boyfriends as people the speaker was in love with, right? as in said speaker hadn't been in actual love with their first boyfriend, just infatuation? as in going back to the first boyfriend who never completely fulfilled them would be settling? well in this essay I'll be explaining why Haley/Dylan endgame is trash and Haley/Andy---

[alwaysthequietones]

Adam Devine and Sarah Hyland in ‘Modern Family’ (2014) and ‘Bumper in Berlin’ (2022)

[nikkiruncks]

Handy being Phil/Claire (an OG endgame ship) like how Zenmasters is Red/Kitty (an OG endgame ship) 😭😭

Yet neither were endgame 😭😭😭

[yourfandomfreak]

Andy and Haley absolutely should've ended up together

it's an actual crime they didn't

[colins-bridgerton]

kate’s thirty, flirty and thriving results

top 30 television otps

21.) haley dunphy & andy bailey (modern family) 

[emmafallsinlove]

Not a single minute. You really are the first.

[bellszidan]

maggie bell in 5x20

[meikyuunolovers]

Feel free to comment/reblog why you did that choice. I'm interested in hearing your opinion ! Also, please don't fight in the comments/reblogs.

[the-badger-mole]

Shipper Tag Game

Tagged By @kila09

1. What ship were you completely obsessed with when you were a teenager, but now you don't care anymore?

I wouldn't say I don't care anymore, I just haven't been inspired by them in a while, but definitely Inu/Kag. They were not my first ship, but they were the first ship I wrote for.

2. Which ship would you consider your first one?

Serena/Darien from the Sailor Moon US dub.

3. Your first fanfic belonged to which couple?

Inu/Kag. And no...you can't read it.

4. Do you remember the first couple you saw a fanart over?

Inu/Kag. it was drawn by my friend

5. Did you ever get into ship discourse?

Ha! I am the discourse....yes. I do.

6. Did you used to have a NOTP or have it currently?

Kataang and Sess/Rin. The full body cringe I get when I think of either of them...

7. Who were the couple in the last fanfic you read?

Zutara

8. Currently, do you have any OTPs?

Zutara, forever and ever. Usa/Mamo (now that I've seen the original Japanese version), Inu/Kag

9. Is there any couple, to this day, you are extremely mad about not getting together?

Zutara. They are my only OTP that isn't canon, but they should have been. Hayley and Andy from Modern Family is next. I'm honestly not happy at how they handled Hayley's arc in general. The writers were so cruel to her! I'm still not over it, and I'm mulling over a fix-it fic for her (one-shot probably). Ichabbie (Ichabod Crane and Abbie Mills) are in third place, but a very distant third. I lost all respect for Sleepy Hollow after how they treated both Abbie the character and Nichole Beharie the actress.

10. Is there any ship you used to dislike but now you think they are kind of interesting?

...no. Not really. I mean, I guess you could count CaptainSwan from OUAT, but that's less I didn't like the ship and more I wanted to get rid of Emma so EYE could have Hook.

11. Do you have any ship that, in the past, was considered normal but now would be canceled over?

I mean...probably? I can't think of any right now. I only have a handful of ships that I care enough about to talk about, and most of them don't appear on my blog, so...🤷🏾‍♀️

12. What was your favorite crack ship?

Mai/Aang (or Flying Dagger as I call them). I don't even really consider this a crack ship. Don't get me wrong, I see them being a disaster together, but not in a cracky sort of way. More of a reality show couple way.

13. Who is the couple you read more fanfics of?

Zutara these days. It used to be more of an even split between my top 3 ships, but the fact that I get around to reading anything these days feels like an accomplishment.

14. What do most of your ships usually have in common?

Powerful women and the powerful men who would die protecting them. Also, powerful women and the powerful men who are their biggest cheerleaders

15. What do you absolutely hate in a ship?

I mean...pick a trait from Kataang, and that's pretty much it. Hero gets the girl because he's the hero; the woman becomes the supportive background partner no matter how powerful and ambitious she was before she got with him; Man can't control his violent outburst without his partner's help. Kataang is the embodiment of everything I hate in a ship.

@soopersara @dhwty-writes @veggie-smoothie @vocalvixen20cp the floor is yours if you want it!