#aqaurius stellium

[vampirae]

Hi! im very new to astrology, if you are. willing can you do a reading for me

im also very confused about how many and where my stelliums are.

hope the rest of the year is gentle to you! 💗💗💗💗

Thank you very much darling!

With a Scorpio Sun and Rising, you have a captivating and strong personality. Scorpio Suns are noted for their intensity, passion, and drive. Your Scorpio Rising lends mystery and intensity to your physical appearance and interactions with the universe.

Your Libra Mercury and Venus, especially when conjunct, suggest a strong emphasis on communication and relationships. You most likely have charm, diplomacy, and a desire for harmony in your dealings. This placement shows that you consider carefully before speaking and respect fairness and balance in your communication approach.

Your Aquarius Mars, Neptune, and Uranus stellium create an intriguing dynamic in your energy and drive. Aquarius energy is inventive, forward-thinking, and self-sufficient. Mars in Aquarius indicates that you are outspoken in unexpected ways and may have a strong urge to break away from tradition. Neptune in Aquarius may offer idealism and a desire to make a significant contribution to the collective, yet Uranus here amplifies the drive for individuality and revolt against conventional expectations.

Your Gemini Moon adds a dimension of intricacy to your emotional makeup. Gemini Moons are inquisitive, adaptive, and talkative emotionally. You may find yourself swinging between emotional moods and requiring diversity and cerebral stimulation in your daily life.

In summary, your chart shows someone who is highly emotional and intense, but also diplomatic and intellectually curious. You may have a strong urge to change yourself and your environment, questioning the status quo and seeking out fresh experiences and viewpoints. Balancing the fierceness of your Scorpio energy with the diplomacy of your Libra placements and the imaginative spirit of your Aquarius stellium is critical to your personal development and satisfaction.

I was thinking about undertaking a thorough psychological study of natal charts, utilizing simply the sun sign.

You're a complex individual who tends to live an introverted lifestyle; you possess considerable self-knowledge and maximize your potential. Your inner world is diverse and conflicting, a dynamic dichotomy of demanding desires. Your logical mind is the core of your motivations, yet your subconscious is torn between comprehension (thinking) and sensation (feeling). When this struggle arises, you may find yourself paralyzed, in a void-like state, which takes the shape of doubt or scepticism. It means your primary challenge in harnessing the energies of your subconscious and developing your consciousness in the realm of the hidden. Despite your flawless clarity and precautions, your struggling unconscious leads you into scenarios you neither wanted nor expected. You can always overcome the most difficult challenges, whether they are intellectual, emotional, or physical, because you have the ability to be reborn and start anew.

You don't have an easy character, you don't like to obey or submit, and you're not always ready to compromise or concede. You're sometimes rough or glacial, and become aggressive and know how to harm another individual, when you want to prove your superiority. In your relationships, just as in yourself, sometimes you're too complicated, resentful or demanding, since this attitude and demand for the absolute, hides your innermost desire: to give yourself entirely, passionately and the frustration and disappointments makes you react in such way. In fact, you can devote yourself body and soul, be extraordinarily warm, tender and sensitive, but when you're faced with frustration and fear, you turn your femininity into combativity. Attacking and sometimes hurting, calms your anxiety, as a way to reassure and prove yourself and your needs.

Anxiety about death is the expression of your internal drama, as how to die, liquidate your past self and the past itself, for you death is also the meaning of life, without dying a little inside you can't feel alive.

You're deductive, analytical, a researcher, a detective and a scientist, all in one. Your focus is oriented particulary inward, in the spsheres of your inner life. Gifted with rationality and the ability to tie relations between different phenomena.

[delibratelydaydreaming-astr0]

An Aquarius Dreamscape.

[saturnrevolution]

how to balance your stellium energy

If not cared for enough, a stellium can turn into an obsession on that particular sign’s energy or house energy. That is why, it’s important to find ways in which you balance the energy of your stellium. Ways to balance a stellium involve paying atention to the opposite energy of that sign or house. If you have an aries/1st house stellium - focus more on libra/7th house energies by learning how to nurture your relationships and rely more on others, rather than being overly independent. If you have a taurus/2nd house stellium - focus more on scorpio/8th house energies by learning how to look behind the surface of your emotions and open up to build intimacy with others. If you have a gemini/3rd house stellium - focus on sagitarius/9th house energies by learning how to see the bigger picture, not get lost in details and overthinking and explore.

If you have a cancer/4th house stellium - focus on capricorn/10th house energy by detaching emotionally and going for your goals through discipline. If you have leo/5th house stellium - focus more on aquarius/11th house energies by learning how to find love through friendships rather than romance and share your hobbies. If you have a virgo/6th house stellium - focus more on pisces/12th house energies by learning how to invest more in your spirituality, meditation practices and mental health. If you have a libra/7th house stellium - focus on aries/1st house energies by learning how to be more assertive and show up in the world, being more independent and direct. If you have a scorpio/8th house stellium - focus on taurus/2nd house energy by grounding yourself in the present reality and being self reliant through your daily work. If you have sagittarius/9th house stellium - focus more on gemini/3rd house energies by learning how to research more before taking a decision and get inspired by other’s opinions. If you have a capricorn/10th house stellium - focus more on cancer/4th house energies by learning how to spend more time nurturing yourself and others, in your own comfort. If you have an aqaurius/11th house stellium - focus on leo/5th house energies by learning how to have more fun, explore your talents and allow romance to flow and happen randomly. If you have a pisces/12th house stellium - focus on virgo/6th house energy by listening more to what your body needs and building a routine that matches your own needs. If you’re curious for me to interpret your chart in a 360 way, house by house, book the awakening reading on www.saturnrevolution.com

[astrosky33]

What would a stellium be considered as ?

i have mercury, lilith, venus, and NN all my 11th house, I dont know how this effects me. Does it give me a bunch of aqaurius energy, does it effect me like a 11th house stellium even though people tell me its not.

That isn’t a stellium so it’s not going to affect you the same way someone who has an 11H stellium would be affected

Stelliums only include luminary/planetary bodies. Here’s a post on it:

Hope this helps 💙

[aligningwjae]

Astro observations 🔭

Heyyy , this is my first official astrology post on my account 🥰 so I’m gonna keep it nice & short today but as the time go by I’ll post longer ones ! Thank you so much in advance no support goes unnoticed 🤞🏾

Neptune opp ascendant 🧜🏾‍♂️

• could manifest as a “ catfish “ type of vibe since Neptune associates w cameras & delusion & the ascendant is how the world/others view you..People might see you & think like “ wow you look so different in person/online “ or you might look drastically different depending on your hair style , clothes & makeup .

• This aspect can also manifest as you never really knowing how you look , you may look different depending on the angle.

• the camera can either be your bestfriend 🥰 or your worst nightmare 🧟‍♀️

Aquarius stelliums ♒️

• might take awhile for them to come out they shell on social media..like if they have a hidden talent it might take awhile for them to be open abt it online & it also might take awhile for them to build a strong platform * mainly if Saturn is in the stellium * but once they done fighting through all those obstacles tuhhhhhh oh babbyyyyy it’s ovaaa 😣#minorsetbacksformajorcomebacks so to all my fellow Aqua stelliums just be patient with yourself & hang in there 🤞🏾

• Aqua stelliums can either grow up very extroverted then become an introvert once they get older or be an introvert growing up & become an extrovert once they reach a more mature age

• I feel like ppl with a lot of Uranus/Aqua energy in their chart was just born to be different/unique & stand out in the crowd & everybody loves it BUT them. I feel like people with prominent Aqua placements have a feeling of like “ why am I like this “ or “ why me “ or “ why am I not normal “ stuff like tht..ppl w prominent Uranus/Aqua can either LOVEEE the fact tht they stand out & are different or HATEEEESS it..if they hate it , it will just be a phase over time eventually they will learn to embrace their unique qualities.

[plutoswrath]

I found your blog from your ~wonderful~ post about fave nct 127 birth chart aspects and qualities and I was wondering if you could do a similar one for nct dream if it's not much trouble. ❤️

Ohh, thank you so much! x Sure thing, here you go <3:

(Mark and Haechan can be found here! x)

Renjun: What I liek about his birth chart is the equal amount of water and earth, hence his Taurus stellium and his Pisces Venus, Mercury and Scorpio Moon. I’m not going to describe how these particular signs energies mix and play out in detail, but what i like is the depth and consistency this can offer an individual, while Pisces brings inspiration and creativity, Scorpio gives meaning and character, while Taurus brings the actual realism and practicality to it, bringing thoughts and emotions into form (+ with Taurus Mars, Jupiter and Saturn I also see this as a possibility of making money with hobbies and passions, but we don’t have his houses positions, so take that a bit with a grain of salt).  I also think that the Taurus stellium brings a healthy and productive balance to the water influence in his chart, not that it’s a bad thing, but with an Aries sun which is naturally inclined to be direct, transparent and making the self and self expression/experience the focal point, this can become a bit tricky with introspective and very sensitive placements in the inner planets aka evoking strong reactions that are hard to filter or coming off as ‘hot and cold’. But on that note this mixture makes for someone very complex (especially with that Scorpio Moon) and versatile character! Just..a very deep individual. Idk, for me it’s definitely one of the more intruiging charts!

Jeno: I’ve said it before a thousand times and I say it again a thousand and one times, Jeno has a superior Sagittarius Moon and I think it reflects so much in his beahviour and shines strongly through (which...might also be because it’s literally in sextile with his Aries Venus and Mercury, which can double the impulsivness). I think I’ve mentioned before in an ask that I believe his potential rising sign could be Sagittarius and idk, but if he’d had a Sagittarius Moon in the 1st it would make sense (I mean...,.,.look at his eye-smile!!!!)

Jaemin: Virgo Venus, for sure! I know Virgo is in fall when it sits in Venus, but i personally think Virgo Venus is a placement that can have the potential to be so giving in love, as unconditional as a Pisces Venus (only when they pick a s/o their pickiness shines the through strongest most of the time). I personally think it’s also interesting to see how his Virgo Venus mixes with his Leo stellium and how each energies play out together. Needless to say, Leo and Virgo both love to care for the people close to them and I think the strong fire presence can actually help verbalizing and expressing feelings better. I don’t want to feed into any theories or something this is purely from my observationa and feelings, but I strongly believe that Jaemin is an extremely caring individual (even though behind the camera it’s more cooled down probs) and Virgo Venus pay very close attention to the well being, likes and dislikes of the people in their life and adjust accordingly to the changing needs of others and I am gushing a lot about Virgo in Venus now but only a few can match their devotion (no matter how critical they can get after all asdfg).

Chenle: I think for Chenle I have less of a ‘favorite placement’, but more a general interest in the way his chart is build. Due to his Aquarius and Scorpio stellium he has his Mercury and Venus squaring his Moon, Neptune and Mars, so majority of his inner planets are afflicted but they all form more or less positive to neutral aspects with the outer planets. Generally speaking though I think that lots of harsh aspects, especially with the majority being squares here, this inner tension offers lots of growth and focus. People with generally more affliction in their charts, especially when it’s the inner planets can become extremely self reflective and hard working. They level of knowing the self in and out is hard to match as they are literally forced to drag apart their self. It’s exhausting but worth it nonetheless!

Jisung: Another member of the Scorpio Moon club asdfghj (literally nct is a melting pot for Aqaurius suns/stelliums and Scorpio moons what is that) but I personally really find his Aries Mars interesting, for me, personally, it was hard to notice at first, I wouldn’t have imagined him having an Aries mars at first (which makes me really wonder what his rising sign is), but I just think it's that placement that I liek to see in action the most. I mean I know as a performer your MC really shines through, but I think on stage Jisung reflects lots of that Aries energy. Just..really cool asdfghj that sounds lame but I honestly mean it in a positive way! So yeah, would love to know which house it is in, especially because Jisung has always struck me as a very collected person.

[angelvibezluv]

Astro Observations 6💜

Whew this was very long but hope you enjoy it and actually read it. These are just my experiences,observations and what I've learned about the signs recently/ already knew.

🌌I'v noticed opposite rising signs have a very strong attraction. Those are usually the relationships that have a mutual give and take, you do this I do that. The two will obviously see life from a different point of view but they will still have respect for one another. It's a very beneficial relationship.

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But sometimes the two can end up seeing things too differently depending on other aspects and cause major disagreements.

🌌For example a Cancer rising and a Capricorn rising. The Capricorn rising has the ability to bring stability and practicality into the Cancer risings life. The Cancer rising has the ability to bring out the creative and emotional side of the Capricorn rising. They both can help eachother with the things they struggle with.

🌌Cancers actually enjoy going through emotional experiences. It's almost fun to them. Since Jupiter is exalted in Cancer and Jupiter rules experiences it would make sense as to why they enjoy "emotional" "experiences". They enjoy learning from those experiences and most likely cherish them.

🌌Capricorn moons are business women point blank.😐

🌌But for real capricorn moons like to spend there time developing and improving whatever they're working on. To the point where they sometimes might neglect their family and friends because they can become so focused on it.

🌌Capricorn moons also go through the most trial and tribulations in life. It's the hard knock life for REALZ. Annie was probably a cap moon. Sabrina from Chilling Adventures of Sabrina was probably a cap moon too. At a young age they're usually told not to cry or to suck it up or they're being too emotional. Now that I think about it, they end up becoming a parent figure to their friends and sometimes even people older than them because their level of maturity is so high regardless of the sun sign.

🌌Pisces moons DO know they can be too nice and easily manipulated at times. They're completely aware trust me. They just cant help themselves they really care alot for people but can be blinded in the moment to the point where they let people use them. They appreciate when others know that aswell and dont use that against them. They'll love you forever for that.💜

🌌You know your talking to an Aqaurius👽 moon when they stare into nothing, or dont even seem like they're engaged in the conversation. It's like they're not there.. somewhere else in their mind. They also say random shit all the time, like out of pocket shit :/ just to see how everyone reacts.

🌌Libra placements talks a lot, like a lot. The letter a and lot. Alot. But I enjoy it, you guys can keep a conversation going for ages with literally one topic.

🌌Not sure if I'v done this one already or not but Pisces really do escape one way or another from this reality, and it's not necessarily a bad thing because they can use art and music to create their own world. The adults/young adults 9 times out of 10 smoke weed, or have their secret stash.

🌌Pisces Mars usually have some kind of artistic skill or creative outlet. It helps them to release the tension they hold in all the time. It's good for us 💜.

🌌Cancers can be VERY aggressive. The scariest people that went to my school were Cancers, mostly the girls. Idk what it is about them. I think they have this mentality of I have to protect myself I cant be seen as weak and soft. You dont want to fight or argue with these people they might kill you🥴 no.. seriously 😐

🌌But then noticed that they always wonder why people think they're so mean because they know they're super sweet it's just the way they come off.. kind of defensive and aggressive.

Same goes for Capricorn Risings and 8th house stelliums. Maybe even pluto in first.

🌌Scorpio risings = intensified eye contact and never ending do you really know me game.

🌌I'm sorry but Scorpios swear they're the baddest and hardest mfs ever.... sorry to break it to ya Scorpio your not your actually the so sweet just hug me back damn😭

🌌Ok but for real Scorpios will pretend they dont care but deep deep down I you know you do Scorpio I can see it. They're just slowly plotting against you, waiting for your downfall, waiting for you to make a mistake so they can laugh. I imagine the typical villain laugh or the hysterical "Haha stupid bitch" or the "why would I be mad :)". The embodiment of Karma. This is for suns not too sure about moons, I dont really know many but let me know scorpio moons if this how you feel too.

This was not scorpio slander. I absolutely love scorpios. Please dont hurt me scorpios. I am just a virgo with glasses.

[plutoswrath]

Heyy! I was catching up on your NCT rising sign posts and firstly it was sooo cool to see how in-depth u and other go that’s my fav like if u wanna guess risings u can’t just go off of looks! U gotta think any house and planet placements lol the whole thing. I wanted to come here to share my thoughts on Chenle and Heachan specifically bc I recently put a lot of thought into it for some reason lol

For Chenle I know he’s a sag/Scorpio cusp but I rlly think he’s a sag and I was running the numbers and for him to be a sag he would have had to been born after 3pm! I used to be rlly confident he was a cap rising bc he has intense bone structure and eyes but not in a Scorpio way, more in a strict saturn way. But to be a sag puts him past a lot of potential rising signs so the only ones left that have him at sag sun were Aries to Libra. I played around w some of them and I feel like he could be a Gemini rising! It makes sense cuz he’s known for being sooo friendly, bright, curious, and playfully witty and snarky. Here’s the selling point tho, depending on the time it could put his Gemini Saturn in first! Which explains why he looks like a cap rising to me lol

I’m bringing Haechan into this too bc I know a lot of ppl think he could be a Gemini rising and tbh I’d still buy it but I wanted to propose another idea. I think he could def be an Aries rising! And that would put all the sign in their natural house which I think makes sense w his Leo moon in 5th and the Gemini in 3rd etc. and when I try to compare him and Chenle in regards to whose more of a Gemini rising, it makes haechan seem less like one. He does act b Gemini cuz I mean he has 3 Gemini placements lmao..,, but Aries rising are loud, opinionated, independent, but also has that bored or distracted easy Aries thing. Quick temper, very like what I see is what I want. they’re not a curious as Gemini and they can be outgoing but their focus isn’t rlly on like inquiring about people like Gemini?

Anyways that’s my theory lol I just wanted to bounce ideas off someone who gets it! I love theorizing

Hello! Ohh, I love theorizing as well, so this is the place for you haha x

So,I hope it's okay but I think with the recent info that Haechan allegedly confirmed his birth time (which I personally take with a grain of salt because I've read that he apparently talked about his birth time before and said it was around 12 pm so....we gotta take his word here but I think we all generally know one has to be critical with all casual mentioned birth times from celebrities, but guessing peoples rising sign is for fun so in the end it's not that serious and let's have our fun disecting the chart with the info we have now!!) I want to talk about Haechan's rising sign first!

So one thing that always stood out for me when it came to Haechan was that he seemed very sensitive to me. It's almost like it's kinda written on his face when he speaks (or doesn't) and I think by the way he acts (very animated and reactive) it just underlines this sensitivity and just emotional receptivness. So I wasn't really suprised to see that he has a Cancer Mercury. Being a Gemini sun already places a huge empathize on his Mercury sign, and Gemini with the influence of water really makes for some pretty reactive people, because they can be highly sensitive to the words, moods and hidden intentions of others. Makes one really moody as well, especially if it's a Gemini with water influence but that's just a random fun fact I wanted to add on asdfghkl. If we take his alleged birth time into consideration, he'd have not only a Scorpio rising, but also a Pluto in the 1st. I think the look of his eyes can be pretty droopey at times and yet very focused/piercing at the same time, kind of like he challenges you in that sense, and this is certainly a theme I noticed in a lot of Scorpio risings, especially if they have Pluto in the 1st as well (which a lot of second/third decade Scorpio risings have). Also, having his Chart ruler in the 1st and in the opposite of his Sun and Venus would explain why he is kind of 'on and off' in that sense with his energy and moods (when you watch him in interviews with 127 especially, behind the scenes, at vlives, etc), especially him asserting his presence in the room with a Sun opposite Pluto would make a lot of sense (btw, this is all written in a neutral perspective and no critique, this is just me explaining his behaviour with astrology here). Haechan also is extremely 'scheming', even when he just sits and doesn't talk in an interview he seems to think ahead and I think this os something that comes really naturally to him, just connecting the dots and adding his own twists and turns to a conversation and story. Also, his Mercury in the 8th adds to the sensitivity I got from him, and that with his Scorpio rising and Pluto in the 1st really add to his driness at times, just really flat with his responses and reactions (which come pretty quick and surprising as well). And let's not forget his Uranus and Neptune in the 3rd: very distinguished and unique voice, as well as having Uranus in the 3rd would contribute to his 'on and off' switch but generally very high energy he has, especially when having a conversation. Despite that having Sun and Mercury in the 7th in a conjunction makes one really sociable in the sense you could feel the need to communicate and interact with others (especially when the Sun in 7th is involved, outs great empathise on being with others, lack of social connections can result in strong lonliness at worst). Oh and not to forget he'd have a Virgo MC with a Scorpio Ascendant. For me at least, it only adds to the fact that Haechan is really a jack of all traits, Virgo MC people usually come across as pretty capable and are pretty self composed (also can come across as quiet judgy and they don't even notice it).

OKAY I WILL STOP NOW ITH HAECHAN WOWIE LET'S MOVE ON TO CHENLE okay so I think I've mentioned before that I think Chenle's face has strong Cancerian/Jupiterian vibes for me - his bone structure is phenomenal ofc, but I think his face seems kind of 'stretched' (same with Taeil) which is btw not (!) meant in any negative way because that doesn't exclude being pretty ofc. I know an anon before mentioned that they believe he is a Sagittarius rising but with him being a possible Sagittarius Sun that would explain the effect of his Cancer Jupiter! I think I once talked about him reminding me of young Leonardo DiCaprio so much that I just wished for him to be a Libra rising, but to be fair I think an Air Ascendant would make sense for his nature in general. Ex: to have a Libra rising he'd have to be born around 2am, which ofc would make him still a Scorpio but would put his Cancer Jupiter in the 10th house, also in a possible exact conjunction to his MC (and even if not it's still the closest planet to his MC). He'd have his Moon, Mars and Uranus both in the 5th house which would generally explain his extremely friendly nature (if we can believe Johnny's rising and I sadly kinda doubt it tbh because I can see him just trolling us with his birthtime I'm seeing the parallels here) and why it's so easy and probabl also important to him to conenct with others and be on good terms. Generally speaking I find him pretty jolly in nature and I think if he'd have his Jupiter in the 10th, possibly conjunct his MC and an Aqurius stellium in the 5th (+ possible Libra rising) that could be it. He'd have a Scorpio stellium in the 2nd house with his Sun in the 29th degree, and even if this is said to make people closed off, part of Scorpio in the 2nd house is a) maintaing close and intimate relationships is key for them, they really need that and b) they trive on being liked and admired. Not to say that he is fake in that sense (all people are to an extent but that's beside the point) but this can definitely add to a general charisma! But idk if Chenle is actually 'edgy' enough for this potential birth chart, probably not I believe

Another possible rising sign I thought for him was actually Taurus rising, putting his Sun, Mercury and Venus (exactly on the Descendant here if it would be in the 2nd decan) in the 7th house and his Aqaurius stellium in the 10th, Jupiter in the 3rd. With his Sun being already in Sagittarius I think it would add to a natural 'want to feel good' attitude and searching for pleasure and good times in every situation and Aquarius in the 10th can make for very sociable people, even if they feel more introverted in that sense they have an easier time making connections with others, or others feel drawn to their friendly and understanding nature. Also, his Jupiter in the 3rd would be in a trine woth his Venus in 7th (especially if it's on the Descnedant) which can grand him an easy hand with social groups and settings to begin with!

And I really like your idea behind the Gemini rising, depending on the decan, his MC could still be in Aquarius with his Aquarius Mars in the 9th conjunct his MC and his Uranus in the 10th conjunct his MC as well, and again, putting his Moon in the 10th. Idk but his Aquarius stellium being possibly in the 10th just really seems to resonate for me 🤠🤠 Also, having a Sagittarius Sun in the 6th would make him most likely someone who's easier to work with, because these people value having a good and rather lighthearded atmosphere around them. Very enjoyable and loyal as friends and extremely passionate in their work place/when they pursue something their heart is in.

[plutoswrath]

I know people either view jaehyun as a fvckboy or this classy princely type or whatever but I never got any of that from him. Weirdly, I can't quite read him. This may be bc he's more private and doesn't show that much of himself (compared to like, Johnny and Mark whose personality we have a pretty solid idea about) or because his chart is all over the place but yeah, it's like I'm even unsure what vibe i'm supposed to get from him. He just seems very distant, which makes sense I guess with a lot of his placements and I understand why he would even want to be this way as he's famous but usually we get a general idea of someone or their persona from celebrities no matter how little we know them, or I just suck at reading others 😂

Ah yeah, it’s either the company trying to portray him in a certain light or the fanbase. I believe every celebrity defenitely hides part of them in front of the public eye, no matter how authentic and open they actually are, because simply put it’s just healthy (I firmly believe so at least). And personally I fully support it when artists want to build a distance between the product they put out and their self (even though in the arts that’s not fully possible).  But...you know, one thing that always irked me is that people seem to project a lot on him somehow, especially their idea of what they want him to be like. Of course, this happens with a lot of people in the public sphere, but I think in kpop in general it’s a huge problem.   Talking about astrology, he has a Pisces rising (a ‘mirror’ sign of the zodiac) as well as a huge 12th house stellium which just empathizes that what we see can also be what we project onto the person or what we wish that person would be. Especially since it’s house stellium is also in Aqaurius (a sign that is known for its theme of connecting with people) and in personal planets like Sun, Venus,  Mercury. Out of personal experiences with people who have not only a Pisces rising, but also a 12th house stellium or strongly highlighted 12th house placements they are indeed hard to read sometimes because they are very much in their own head, these individuals need time for themselves to get earthed and sort things out effectively. It’s a water sign house after all, they need time to reenergize and reflect.  I believe that’s the biggest problem of it all, the fact that a lot of people don’t ‘clearly’ see him (Neptunian influence, again) makes them want to put a label on him even more, because it would clear out the confusion about his ‘real persona’. But here’s the thing: what we see might just be as real as it can get but with all the ‘fantasy’ created by the Neptunian influence, (and the help of how his image is managed by the company/public) and the heavy mutuable influence - meaning one is prone to change and have many facettes, even if they are contradicting (!) - people could easily view him as some sort of ‘fantasy made real’. It’s easy to fall into the overinterpretation and overnalyzation with water sign energy in general, but with Neptune it could be especially misleading, sometimes it’s best to take things as they are and work with it (looking at sister sign Virgo here).