#aristotle is an ENTJ

[jeannereames]

you characterized ATG, both historical and in dwtl, as ENTP, and H as INTP. which MBTI types would you assign the other major historical players (based on what you can glean from them ofc) or the character versions in your novels? ex. krateros strikes me as ESTJ, but curious if you feel differently.

Honestly, I don't think we know enough. And while I was okay with assigning the real ATG an ENTJ, H as INTJ would be only the novel. (Definitely a J for both, not a P.) Similar problems for pretty much everyone else. Our evidence is just too spotty, I'm afraid.

Also, I'd have to go back through and do some re-reading of the Myers-Briggs types, which could take some hours. I need to spend that reading Aristotle's Politics (and other things) instead. *grin*

[eclipsedbluemoon]

Going down the (frankly, unhealthy and useless) rabbithole of thinking about Greek philosophers and their MBTI types and how the wack shit they did back then definitely resonates with their types.

[intjintherain]

INTP: well...since I forgot to buy plates, I could just rip this paper bag in half, and we could eat off of two dysfunctional bag pieces.

INTJ: But if we rip it in half and it’s no longer functional as a bag, is it still a bag?

INTP: Well, no, I guess not! Let’s do it!

INTJ: Let’s destroy the aspect of bag-ness from this brown piece of paper!

INTP: And in the process, create plate-ness!

INTJ: I’m getting drunk on our power here!

...

ESFJ: *eating on their travel table cloth with china plates* nerds.

[mbti-is-my-life-now]

the types as traits of my friends irl that are completely unrelated to mbti:

enfj:

• dance major

• really likes watermelon sour patch gummies

• has a customer service voice that's about 5 octaves above their actual speaking voice

enfp:

• will fight someone about aristotle

• has bright orange hair

• says "holy cow" and "jeepers" an absurd amount

entj:

• has ripped a car door off of a car

• really likes indian food

• doesn't like camping

entp:

• watches too many youtube meme compilations

• tried to teach them guitar and they proceeded to ask me what a note was and what a beat was

• has worn the same jacket every day for 4 years

esfj:

• likes disney just a little too much

• constantly traveling

• has 12 dogs

esfp:

• gives really nice hugs

• doesn't like baked cheetos

• knows way too much about literature

estj:

• what sleep schedule?

• corrects people's grammar in the middle of their sentences

• has seen every episode of black mirror at least twice

estp:

• the most chaotic person i will ever meet

• has a collection of small plastic babies

• is learning to walk on stilts

infj:

• writing a mystery novel

• has many tattoos

• has multiple of the same outfit like a cartoon character

infp:

• loves computer programming

• drinks an unhealthy amount of chocolate milk

• wants to be a comedy writer

intj:

• main character energy

• wears exclusively floral print

• still plays pokémon go

intp:

• a master ice skater

• secretly really good at floral arrangements even though they have never worked at a flower shop

• wants a nose ring but has a super low pain tolerance

isfj:

• one time they ate 17 churros in 2 minutes.

• still doesn't have an aesthetic

• obsessed with marvel movies

isfp:

• art major

• reads tarot cards

• has worn a ball gown to a job interview

istj:

• talks about the stock market too much

• wears sandals everywhere, even in the winter

• listens exclusively to heavy metal

istp:

• constantly injured

• won't shut up about elton john or david bowie

• can ride a unicycle but not a bike for some reason

[deviliciousdev]

MBTI✨Spilling Drunk Secrets 😵🍸

entj (the commander)

x

intp (the logician)

couple

intj (the architect)

x

enfp (the campaigner)

couple

best friend gang

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[night time, at enfp's photography studio, eating pizza 🌃🍕)

entj: hey enfp, do you have anything to wash this down with?

enfp: oh yeah there's a case of water under the bench over there.

entj: mmmhhm... waters good... but i meant more like tequila.

enfp: ahaha! well duh there's a bottle of don julio in the cabinet next to my desk! 😝

entj: [jumps up and nonchalantly skips to the liquor cabinet]

intp: mehhh, is there anything other than tequila, i had a horrible experience with tequila featuring jack n the box, skittles, and senior prom.

intj: omg i don't even wanna know, but i too am not a huge fan of tequila.

enfp: ehh 😬 i'm not sure what else i have, i haven't restocked since i got back from that shoot in Miami. entj? see anything for these nerds?

entj: [rumaging through cabinet with tequila bottle between there knees] the only thing in here other thannn... ooo margarita mix! yessss, bitch. oh um the only other alcohol is... ew, peach schnapps... 🤭

intj: [to enfp] why do you have peach schnapps??

enfp: it was when my mother was visiting, if she's drinking she's not talking.

intj: ah.

intp: well c'est la vie, entj bust open the schnapps!

entj: [returns and pours drinks for everyone. hands intp and intj the schnapps] ugh god it smells like potpourri.

intp & intj: [drink the schnapps]

intj: oh, 😵, [in a hoarse voice] it tastes like the entire candle isle in target.

intp: that's 🥴, sooo baddd ughhhh.... oh 😳... it just got good, warm tummy... 😌

entj & enfp: [laughing at the two nerds]

[after an hour or so of tequila and schnapps drinking] 🍸🍑

intj: i hate the word quirk. or more when people describe themselves as being quote un-quote "quirky".

intp: i think everyone has their own quirks. and the quirky-ness level depends on the eye of the beholder [points with hand holding glass to eye with other eye closed]👁👈

enfp:thanks for the insights Aristotle, pfftt. 😄

entj: not me. i don't do "quirks". [takes a drink of tequila with a tipped chin]

[other three share a look 👀]

entj: what?

intp: are we gonna go there...

entj: where...

intp: out of your castle in the sky... and back down to reality...

entj: pffftttt aha! what?! i don't have any "quirks" just superior character traits.😌

intp: i guess we're going there... ok if you don't have quirks what do you call your superiority complex?? 😄

entj: oh- c'mon, i was kidding, i don't have a superiority complex!

everyone: HA!

intp: entj, on multiple occasions i've heard you say "i command you to accept me as your ruler!", the last time you were yelling it at your pillow while you punched it!😆

entj: it wouldn't accommodate for head shape. it was too fluffy and needed to be beaten into submission... plus YOU are one to talk about being weird with a pillow! the last time i was at your apartment i asked you where your pillow was and you said you had LOST it and when i asked what you were sleeping on you said a hoodie?!?!?! you live in chaos.

enfp: [dying laughing]🤣

intp: oh you think that's funny... may be intj should know about the rainbow shot incident.

enfp: ahaha i've told them everything and YOU SHUSH!

intp:[turns toward group] when enfp came to visit entp and i when we lived in Berlin, we went to this trendy neo-rocker bar with neon and all that. and the bartender got all of us to do rainbow shots. we had already been to like 2 other bars before that. and enfp took ALL of the shots and when they got to the blue shots they laughed and then THREW UP ALL OVER THE BAR. then, then they proceeded to ASK THE BARTENDER OUT!

intj & entj: [dying laughing] 😂🤣

enfp: [eyes wide with rage] 😠😳 INTP SLEPT WITH TWO SIMILAR LOOKING PEOPLE IN BERLIN, couldn't tell them apart AND FORGOT BOTH OF THEIR NAMES!

intp: 😳

intj: HA! 🤣

intp: [looks over to intj] 🤨 oh haha, yeah? [turns to group] every year at christmas intj, secretly watches Elf AND CRIES!

intj: dude!

intp: gloves are off! and i refuse to let this be an intp roast... [quietly] again.

entj: 🤣 you cry at Elf, what a lil bitch.

intj: [nodding sarcastically at entj] [turns to intp] when you moved to Berlin for that year away, entj cried and ate nothing but tubs of rocky road icecream and mango sherbet for a WEEK. they didn't even GO TO WORK!

enfp: 🤭😯

intp: oh god...

entj: 😱[at intj] 😡 you are so dead. LAST YEAR INTJ BOUGHT A DVD SET OF SELF HELP VIDEOS! AND WATCHED THEM!

intj: 🤯

intp & enfp: [dying laughing, enfp holding onto intp's shoulder]🤣😭

intj: [looks over at enfp] once, enfp tied their shoelaces together and fell down a flight of stairs!

enfp: 😱 WHEN I FELL, INTJ JUST POINTED AND LAUGHED!

intj: the first time we went out for drinks after entj's melt down over intp, entj had too many drinks and came onto me!

intp: ohohohoho [dies of laughter]

entj: intp's a bottom!

intp: hey!

entj: 😳 [puts their hands on cheeks realizing their mistake] i'm sorry, i couldn't think of anymore for intj.

enfp: iiiiii knew it!

intp: well, i think you have all proven my point... at the end of the day... we're all freaks... [sips drink]

entj: [scoffs with a chuckle] [to intj] i can't believe you cry at Elf. 😆

intj: whatever dude, you had mental breakdown over a bottom.

entj: 😑[camera looks]

[maximus-thanos]

FULL NAME: Maximus Thanos

AGE / DOB: 500, December 21st 1520

HEIGHT: 6ft 4 WEIGHT: 234 lbs

ETHNICITY: Caucasian (Greek)

GENDER: Male

HAIR: Black

EYES: Blue with discoleration

SCARS: One over his left eyebrow. Another over his heart in the shape of claws.

TATTOOS: x x x x x (newest addition for @justeamani)

PIERCINGS: None

LANGUAGES: English, Greek, Spanish, Nordic.

EDUCATION: Multiple fields of study in psychology, forensics, criminology.

OCCUPATION: Therapist

SEXUAL IDENTIFICATION: Pansexual.

ROMANTIC IDENTIFICATION: Greyromantic

TEMPERAMENT: Choleric

MYERS BRIGGS TYPE: ENTJ

MORAL ALIGNMENT: Lawful Evil

SPECIFICS

FAVORITE FOOD: Baklava or Moussaka

FAVORITE DRINK: Ouzo

FAVORITE BRAND: Armani.

FAVORITE PLACE: Greece.

FAVORITE HOBBY: People watching.

FAVORITE ARTIST: Aristotle

FAVORITE MUSICIAN: Too many to name

FAVORITE TV SHOW: Trauma: N/A.

FAVORITE MOVIE: 300

FAVORITE BOOK: The Odyssey.

FAVORITE SCENT: Honey.

FAVORITE COLOUR: Spartan Red.

FAVORITE TEXTURE: Wheat and dirt.

FAVORITE PERSON: Amani.

RANDOM

LIST FIVE THINGS THEY LIKE: Honey, Food, Sex, Domination, Studying People  

LIST FIVE THINGS THEY DISLIKE: Religion, grand romantic gestures, poor cinema, gen z, bad rope.

PET PEEVE: Neutrality.

PERSONALITY TYPES THEY PREFER: Ones that conceed to or match his own.

PERSONALITY TYPES THEY AVOID: Overly bubbly.

ACHILLES HEEL: A chance to dominate.  

LIST THREE THINGS THEY LIKE ABOUT THEMSELVES: Heritage, knowledge, and occupation.

LIST THREE THINGS THEY DISLIKE ABOUT THEMSELVES: N/A.

FASHION STYLE: Suits, or at the very least dress suits, pants, and nice shoes.

LIST TWO SEX POSITIONS THEY PREFER: Doggy, wheelbarrow.

LIST TWO SEX POSITIONS THEY AVOID: N/A.

[ladyentj-blog]

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.

Aristotle

[phoenixmarks]

MBTI rant

A lot of people disagree with MBTI - a lot of people consider it entirely invalid. Some cite the origins: Jung started it before psychology employed the scientific method, they say, and Myers and Briggs had no formal scientific training whatsoever. Aristotle and Leonardo Da Vinci also were without formal training, and also didn't employ the scientific method...but because their contributions to science are easier to prove, and because (in my opinion) they do not challenge peoples' perception of themselves, they are not brought up. I know they were not involved with psychology in general or MBTI in particular. My point is that not employing the scientific method does not automatically invalidate findings, nor does being an autodidact. It simply means that the findings need to be more carefully scrutinized...which brings me to the second, main part of my rant. The greatest criticism I hear is essentially "the human race cannot be neatly divided into sixteen types of people." This is very, very wrong. It can be neatly divided into two - those who have seen Game of Thrones, and those who haven't. There is an infinity of variation between those two, but still, two clearly defined types of people have been identified. It can likewise be divided into four - followers of Judeo-Christian faiths, followers of non-Judeo-Christian faiths, atheists and agnostics. Again, there's an infinity of variation and even some overlap between them...and yet every single person on Earth absolutely does fall under one of those four categories. The key, here, is identifying specific traits and a set of categories that absolutely must encompass all of humanity. MBTI has done that. All people tend towards Introversion or Extraversion - yes, ambiverts are a thing... But that's not relevant to the context: even ambiverts will tend to either gain or lose energy in socialisation, and while it may vary depending on who they're spending time with, the key word in that phrase is "tend" - it's not about locking a person into a role, but discovering a tendency. An introvert will, in most cases, be exhausted by social interaction. An extravert will generally feel energised. There is a great deal of variation - in the speed with which the introvert gets exhausted, or the amount of people an extravert gets energised by as opposed to drained, for example - but there is no third option. Likewise, Sensing or Intuition, Thinking or Feeling, Perceiving or Judging - all these, as used in context, encompass all people. These are not dictionary definitions of words, they're shorthand to describe a concept. Anyone who claims they do not tend towards one or the other is either lying or simply does not understand what is meant by the term as used in context. And yes, there's a great amount of variation even within types - because some will tend strongly towards one trait while others do not tend towards it as strongly. There's variation even within people who have the exact same percentages for all traits - just as there's variation within people who have the exact same IQ, or scored the same on a test, because the factors that determined that score are different. And no, the type description likely will not perfectly match you in every regard and under all circumstances... because that type description assumes a 100% score for every trait and no prior life experience that caused a more complex personality...but it will likely be more familiar than not. If not...try taking the test again when you're more relaxed, under different circumstances, etc. Getting different results on the test doesn't mean the test is broken. It means you are affected by your surroundings. Anecdotal evidence alert: when I personally take the test at work or immediately after coming home from work, I tend to be classified as an INTJ. At almost any other time I'll be an INTP, but my work persona is INTJ. A close friend of mine, and INTJ, is rated as an ENTJ after prolonged contact with friends. Both of these make sense. I, personally, am much more empathetic an understanding of emotions than the typical INTP... because I was an INFP until life, using the tools of time and experience, changed me, as life is wont to do. We are all constantly changing, learning and growing... Again, MBTI identifies a tendency, nothing more, and as we grow older we become more likely to fit into a specific role in a greater amount of circumstances as our personalities "settle." So to anyone calling MBTI invalid... you're probably an ISTJ, you can't help it. Good luck! //EndRant

[mbti-notes]

Hi! Do all philosophers have to necessarily be INFJs or INTPs? Is there any extrovert philosophers you know?

Don’t forget INTJs and ENTPs. Some people claim that Aristotle was ENTJ and Socrates ENTP. Many people may like philosophy but not many want to do it as a career/calling.Introverts generally have more patience for long periods of philosophical reflection and Intuitives generally feel more comfortable dealing at length with heavily abstract subjects.

[inkxlenses]

MBTI Aesthetics: ENTJ

“With regard to excellence, it is not enough to know, but we must try to have and use it." –Aristotle