#bottom gintoki

[metaharlot]

Isaborou x Gintoki (tormenting Oboro with varying levels of awareness)

With how closely Isaborou and Oboro work it's inevitable they had to have hate sex at one point (credit to @averagelonelypotato for this genius headcanon)

This doesn't do anything for their working relationship in fact they seem to hate each other more after each interaction

After the Baragaki arc however their hate-fuck sessions, few as they are, dwindled even further

Oboro didn't really notice or care until after one session where mindlessly looked over Isaborou's shoulder to see who he was texting and realized it WAS GINTOKI (credit to @averagelonelypotato as well lmao)

Needless to say it was a long, long time before their next hate-fuck

After that, Gintoki basically became Isaborou's secret weapon for getting out of any future interactions/meetings with Oboro

If Isaborou thought a meeting with Oboro present was lasting too long? Brings up how he just bought Gintoki some lingerie for special occasions wink wink

If Oboro showed up as backup for a large battle unexpectedly? Brings up how he thinks Gintoki's abilities with a "sword" are really sexy

If Oboro accidentally bumps into Isaborou in the hallway because they're going to the same place? Starts playing his recordings of Gintoki's moans

Oboro feels like this is the closest he's reached to a living death even with Utsuro/Shoyou's blood

It all comes to a head when Isaborou and Oboro are forced to have a meeting after a really hard week in Isaborou's home (neutral zone) and they're both getting on each other's nerves

And then someone knocks on the door

Isaborou and Oboro lock eyes as Gintoki's annoying voice drawls through the door

In less than a second Isaborou's leapt out of his seat and shoved Oboro into a side closet just as Gintoki opens the door

Oboro's just staring at the closed closet door in disbelief, then his hand starts creeping towards his hidden needles

Gintoki obliviously sits in Isaborou's lap and starts complaining about his shitty day and Isaborou just hums non-commitedly as he wraps one hand around Gintoki's child-bearing hips and frantically texts Nobume with one hand behind his back

"nobume-chan >:((( did you forget i'm having a meeting with Obo-chan right now??? why did you let Gin-chan come in???"

"did you forget I was in the house the last time you fucked Oboro senpai at 4 am in the next room???"

"nobume-chan plz"

"daughter <3 <3 <3 has her notifications silenced"

Though his face doesn't change Isaborou desperately fights back tears, especially as he sees the closet door open slightly, needles gleaming in the light of his elite lightbulbs

Biting back a swear, Isaborou shoves Gintoki down under his desk and points his gun towards the closet door, disguising the sound of the safety clicking off by strategically slamming his knee into the side of the table

The movements of the needles freeze as Gintoki starts screeching under the table, none-too-pleased by the sudden turn of events

"Gin-chan" Isaborou coos, effectively drowning out Oboro's overpowering bloodlust with his own and successfully capturing the attention of both silver-haired warriors with the sickly sweet tone

"You're not the only one who's had a rough day. So I suggest you stop being an entitled brat and figure out how to make it up to me before I start choose to end our peaceful relations right here and now."

Oboro knows he's not just talking to Gintoki and reluctantly lowers his weapons to sulk in the closet. Isaborou is too valuable of an ally to lose at this time, even though it drives him insane to know just how easy it would be to kill the samurai right now

Isaborou relaxes minutely and switches the safety back on as a loud whimper comes out from underneath the desk

He looks down to see Gintoki has dropped into sub-space at the sudden tone, looking up at him with a mixture of confusion and fear

Isaborou softens, placing his gun in one of the many hidden compartments in his desk and pulling the samurai back onto his lap

"I'm sorry pet, that tone was uncalled for. I didn't mean it darling, Daddy was just in a terrible mood."

Oboro shudders in disgust in the closet and covers his ears

Gintoki's still deep in sub-drop on Isaborou's lap, confused and hesitant to touch the older man

Isaborou clicks his tongue, causing Gintoki to flinch before Isaborou leans forward to kiss him deeply

Gintoki gasps into his mouth before quickly accepting the tongue invading his mouth, letting it explore as he moans loudly in the room

Oboro has retreated to the other corner of the closet, covering his ears

Isaborou continues lazily exploring Gintoki's mouth, only taking breaks to tease and apologize breathily into his ears, causing Gintoki to mewl helplessly against him

Once Gintoki has gone pliant beneath him, Isaborou murmurs against his ear:

"You're always such a good boy for me~ Why don't I make both our days better, and fuck my thanks into you pet?"

Gintoki moans helplessly, hearts in his eyes as he whimpers out a "yes please Daddy~"

Thus starts Oboro's seven hours in hell

With the exception of the closet, no space in the office was spared from these two animals

The floors, windows, desk, and yes even the closet door were repeatedly used for the insane mating that went on between the two pervert samurai

Oboro had curled into the fetal position at the other end of the room, fruitlessly covering his nose and mouth against the smell of hardcore sex seeping under the door

Nobume had smartly left the house shortly after switching off her notifications, another L for Oboro as his texts for help on his rarely-used phone were promptly ignored

Only after the sun had set and rose once more did the two samurai finally call it quits, Isaborou carrying Gintoki out of the room to wash him off in the bathroom and leaving a flippant remark that the maid will come in eventually to clean up the mess, anything in the room can handle itself for the moment

After he was sure no one would be returning to the room, Oboro crawled out of the closet fighting back tears, before accidentally touching something on the ground and jumping to his feet

He considered using one of Isaborou's guns to off himself or at least momentarily erase the memories, before seeing how Isaborou's desk was covered in more mosaics than an art exhibit and skedaddling out of there

Needless to say Oboro never set foot into Isaborou's house again and Gintoki gladly accepted the random extra sugar baby money that came with Isaborou's usual monthly deposits (wink wink) with glee, no thoughts in his empty, sugar-addicted, horny brain

Any reposters feel free to expand 😈😈😈

But plz credit me tho 😘😘😘

[joelletwo]

beautiful. emblematic

[agroupofcrows]

sakaginnn

they are very divorced but only in the sense of “we are never going to talk about how you keep leaving me”

almost ticked platonic but this is very complicated. i do think they gave each other tender 16yo sloppy in the joui trenches. i also think that gintoki thinks, in the present, that as a grown, self-respecting man, being nohomo bropalbesties with sakamoto is disgusting enough. and i also think that he would climb sakamoto like a tree if s. stayed on Earth for more than 5 minutes

i think if they went to therapy together it would trigger the apocalypse

ok maybe fraud wouldn’t enjoy them as much as he would ginzura HOWEVER i am somehow convinced that if gintoki ever had a gender crisis it would happen in a sakagin context. ok bye

[averagelonelypotato]

Gintoki is not a whore, the only person he is meant to be with is Hijikata Toushirou, HijiGin is the best ship

bestie.....

respectfully Gintoki is one <3

[yamameta-inc]

gintoki is a guy everyone wants to see bottom but he keeps having to top the other pathetic men in his life. similarly, gintoki keeps having to wield the executioner’s blade for everyone, even though he really wishes he could kill himself,

[fortunatelyenchantingtaco]

Ngl i have so many Gintoki headcanons that i have nowhere to put but like. I dont think he has any pain receptors left. Have you seen this monster of a man? I doubt he feels anything. I think this is why Okita doesn’t really like fighting with him — there is no point when the other doesn’t feel it

Also we dont see him train ever, only in flashbacks, and it ties rather nicely into the fact that despite the fact that he was taught swordsmanship, most of it is his own feral style of combat. He uses teeth, legs, he slashes on weak points. Nothing about honor or safe measures, because for Gintoki all life was one battle after another. In this way his style is very similar to the way Hijikata fights, and the fact that Hijikata loses to Gintoki in their first meeting is the defining part of their relationship to me. Hijikata was always the demon, the uncannily strong kid, the fighter. And suddenly there is someone putting him in the dirt. He has to accept and live with this and he did. He put his pride aside, such a good boy

Also the reason Gintoki holds the wooden sword and doesn’t actually have spars with people is i believe because he has too much strenght AND he instinctively treats any fight as the real one. We see him kill people with a wooden sword, so it only makes sense he doesnt have a real one not only because of the sword ban, and also because its real hard for him to regulate strenght. We see this man crush a sword between his teeth. Like im sorry but Gintoki is called a monster for a reason. Yeah. In the later seasons they honestly did a fantastic job of animating fights, especially well capturing the fact that Gintoki’s style is fast and vicious and brutal, urelenting. He would let himself be hurt to get closer. Its also a byproduct that he was taught by someone with inhuman reflexes, but he moves fast and i doubt he thinks much during the fact. All bare instincts, faster, closer, harder. Claw if you dont have a sword, bite if you cant move your arms

Not really realistic that he doesn’t train, but it does kinda makes sense that there are only real battle for him. We dont know about his life before Shouyou found him except for the fact that he already had a sword and was scavenging battlefield for food. This boy does not know what normal life is, only battle, which makes all the more important the events of the show where he does get a family

Yeah

Its funny cause in Gintama there aren’t really level ups or training. Maybe for others, but not for fhe main character. When he encounters someone stronger than him he powers through, he crawls through the mud and blood and wins. The show rarely accentuates attention on that but Gintoki is one scary mf, frankly. The only enemies he effectively struggles with are aliens with superpower and a literal immortal man???

All that being said, he is a BOTTOM with Hijikata I am not taking criticism thanks

[johnmalevolent]

[ID: Black and white digital fanart of Hijikata and Gintoki, as Tenko and Ginko. Their clothes are switched - Hijikata in white short-sleeved yukata and Gintoki in the Shinsengumi uniform. Gintoki uses Hijikata's flip phone to take a selfie of them, with her arm looped over Hijikata's shoulder. At bottom right is a chibi drawing of the two kissing. End ID]

the doctor prescribed at least one yuri hijigin per day

[corpsekiller]

your writing is amazing!!! dadtoki makes me so happy and i wanted to ask if you would write more found family fics with him and perhaps the reader as a second parental figure?

✝ 𝖧𝖮𝖬𝖤 𝖨𝖲 𝖶𝖧𝖤𝖱𝖤𝖵𝖤𝖱 𝖨'𝖬 𝖶𝖨𝖳𝖧 𝖸𝖮𝖴 — 𝖦𝖨𝖭𝖳𝖮𝖪𝖨

thank you for your request, my dear. dadtoki has a special place in my heart and i will never stop writing about the found family trope and the yorozuya, so i really couldn't stop myself from writing this <33

𝖯𝖠𝖨𝖱𝖨𝖭𝖦. sakata gintoki x genderneutral!reader

𝖶𝖠𝖱𝖭𝖨𝖭𝖦𝖲. hurt/comfort, rluff, mentions of blood, dad!toki

MASTERLIST

Gintoki wonders how he got here.

The park is nearly empty at this time. A few children still run around the playground nearby and a couple strolls down the lonely path hand in hand, but the sun is already setting and most people are rushing home to enjoy dinner with their families. It’s too hard to decipher the letters of his new Shounen Jump by now and he gave up on reading anyway, the magazine long forgotten in his lap as he watches Kagura and Shinpachi chase around the meadow.

They’re laughing loudly, dodging each other’s hands and hiding behind trees and bushes, sometimes even jumping over Sadaharu who’s been dozing off since they arrived and seemingly doesn’t mind them climbing over his back. Every once in a while his left ear twitches at the sounds of their giggles and his eyes crack open to follow the kids dashing around his sleeping figure before he falls back into his slumber.

“I think we should head home soon, it’s already getting dark,” you mutter beside him. Gintoki nods blankly, only turning his head when you dig the tip of your finger into his cheeks and although his expression doesn’t change once his gaze meets yours, his heart still jumps in his chest at the sight of you wrapped tightly in his white yukata to protect yourself from the cold breeze sweeping through the park. You look so beautiful and there’s nothing he can do to stop himself from staring at you like a creep when you brush a strand of your hair behind your ear and give him a gentle smile before you scoot closer to him and snuggle into his side.

Sometimes, he’s convinced that this is just a figment of his imagination. It’s in moments like these when everything seems just a little too perfect to be real that he wonders how he got here, how his life turned out to be so beautiful after everything he’s done — the kids are laughing and you’re reaching out to grab his hand, soft and warm against his skin, a small reminder that yanks him back into reality.

“Gin, are you okay?”

“What? Yeah, don’t worry ‘bout me. I’ll get the brats, you stay here,” he croaks, shaking his head to get rid of his thoughts and turning to call out for Shinpachi and Kagura right as she trips over her own feet. “Oi! Be careful—”

The words leave his mouth before he can even think, but it’s too late.

Kagura shrieks and instinctively raises her arms to shield herself from the impact before she lands face first in the dirt and Shinpachi, who’s been grinning from ear to ear only mere seconds ago nearly stumbles into a tree when he hears her fall. Worry is written into the crease of his brows as he whips his head around to check if she’s alright, even though his glasses have fallen into the grass and his vision has turned blurry.

“Shit, are you okay?”

“Yeah, I’m fine,” Kagura groans as she fights to get up. Mud sticks to her pale cheek, a few leaves have found their way into her tousled hair and for a moment, everything seems to be fine until her eyes search his. Tears cling to her lashes and her bottom lip begins to tremble, barely holding in a sob and Gintoki is about to jump to his feet in panic, but you’re faster.

Rushing past him, you crouch down beside the girl and pull her into a hug, one hand cupping the back of her head and the other one resting on the small of her back to draw soothing circles. Small hands wrap around your chest and dig into the yukata engulfing your body, then she buries her face in your shoulder — she’s crying, sniffling and whimpering quietly as if she isn’t quite sure whether she’s even allowed to show weakness.

Gintoki knows she’s a Yato and she endured injuries much worse than this, but at this moment, as you rock her back and forth, comforting her with loving words and a tight hug, he is once again reminded that she’s just a kid. Much like Shinpachi, she was never allowed to be just that — and like him, they had to grow up too fast, never had a childhood that wasn’t defined by blood and violence, and never had someone who looks out for them until they met him.

And look, he doesn’t really think he’s made for this whole single dad thing he’s got going on since he picked them both up, but he’s been trying his best to make them feel safe and loved, and even though it’s quite exhausting to keep them both fed when his own wallet is empty, he wouldn’t have it any other way.

He does have to admit that he’s grateful you came along though. Somehow, you completed their little family and it becomes so much clearer to him as he watches you inspect Kagura’s injury, the fabric of her pants ripped and soaked with the blood from her grazed knee, carefully dabbing the wound with a tissue to clean away any dirt.

She’ll get a bandaid at home, a pretty pink set with little dogs on them he got from the store a while ago, in case his kids got hurt because that’s what they are now — they are his kids and this is his family, not the one he was born with, but the one he chose.

“C’mon, let’s go home,” you encourage Kagura, grabbing her smaller hand to help her onto her feet. “I’ll buy you sukonbu on our way, okay?”

He groans loudly. These brats will cost him an arm and a leg and his pockets were already empty before they even came along.

“Right, Gintoki?” You give him a pointed look as if you could read his thoughts and he nods defeatedly, already searching for some coins in his worn wallet. Whatever makes you happy.

[s0dium]

"Back in my day girls went commando"

Gintoki x reader

A/n: Im so down bad for the mop top, also I got this idea from that one episode with the pantie thief where he talks about how girls would go commando

Warnings: Unprotected sex, choking, cum kink/breeding, messy kisses ;3, p; established relationship, sub-dom dynamics, Gin being a menace, thigh grinding, implication of age difference (Gin is canon 27)

~

Sure, you were not a relation ship expert, but you where pretty sure that in a healthy relationship things were supposed to be reciprocal. You were both supposed to tend to each others needs. But for the past couple days it felt like you where being more or less neglected by your boyfriend gintoki.

Of course you were willing to help out when ever he had his needs; Letting him use your body like a flesh light when he needed, or even indulging in some of his ridiculous fantasies (some of which you where sure he was just messing with you). Its also not like you didnt know he was lazy, but to put it simply you where almost at the end of your line. And that fact that your boyfriend was incredibly attractive, did not help at all.

It had been two hours since you came over to to Gins house, where he had been seated seated on a couch,  white yukata open exposing his bare toned chest while he read the newest issue of shonen jump. You sat next to him trying your best not to pay attention to the bead of sweat that rolled down his chest from the hot day.  At this point, everything was turning you on for no apparent reason. Rubbing your thighs together, you eyed your boyfriend like a predator as he flipped the pages of his comics.

What ticked you off the most though, was the fact that he didnt even seem to notice you where there. Your whole body was getting hot, too hot, especially the lower half of your body, and the warm weight in your stomach was getting too much to bare.

Ah fuck it.

You reached under your skirt and grabbed a hold of the hem of your panties, pulling them down and kicking them off. There was already a small damp spot on the bottom of your underwear, and you slithered a finger down to your core to feel the wetness.

No this wouldn't do. You needed gin.

Amazingly enough, Gin hadnt noticed what you were doing at all, so you took the opportunity to get up and walk in front of his line of view, fisting the end of your skirt.

"Yo, you need anything babe?"

You didn’t reply, only moving forward until each leg was on either side of Gins thigh, to which you suddenly sat down, too embarrassed to look at your boyfriend in the eye. Trembling hands came up to fist the ends of yukata as you slowly began to grind yourself onto Gin's black pants.

"Oh?" Gin cooed, quirking an eye brow and setting his book down and cocking his head to the side.

"P-please pay attention to me" You whine, slowly rocking your bare cunt back and forth. In any other situation you would be dying of embarrassment but at this point you could only care about the empty aching feeling between your legs.

"So you thought going commando would get my attention did ya?" You can only whimper in response as you buried your nose into the crook of Gins neck and breathed in his scent. "Well you where right about that."

Suddenly two hands grab your waist and begin to lift you up; bringing you closer so you were effectively straddling him and your cunt rubbed against his clothed bulge. Impatiently, you began to wiggle, but an arm wrapped around your waist keeping you still.

"Hold on will ya?" Gin groans, reaching under the hem of his black pants and pulling out his hard dick, giving it a few strokes before slightly lifting you up to align his pink tip with your awaiting hole.

Slowly, Gin begins to lower you onto him a low groan escaping his mouth as his dick entered in your slimy walls. You felt your stomach turn with euphoria as you fully sit your self on his cock, feeling the way his member parted your walls, your pussy instinctively clenching and sucking him in.

"Hnnngg so good...." You feel yourself jump when he finally bottoms out. A hand comes to wrap around your jaw and your pulled into a messy kiss. You whine into Gins mouth and you let his tongue weave its way into yours. His hands slides down to your throat, giving your the sides of it a squeeze to softly block your air flow.

"Oh wow your fucking dripping," Gin coos, bucking up his hips teasingly.  He lets out a soft groan at the way your pussy feverishly grips his dick. You start to lift and lower your hips on his cock without warning, the sound of wet sweaty skin slapping mix and mingle in the sex steamed air. You want to scream at the way his dick fills you up so perfectly every time you snap your hips down on him.

The pleasure was overwhelming and after being neglected for so long, it was only multiplied, all you could do is bite down on his yukuta to keep your self grounded.

“Miss you,” you keep crying out, words muffled through the cloth you’re biting.  It was as if you were made for each other, your cunt sucking him in with each push and shove that hit at just the right spots.

“Yeah, there you go,” Gin hums, his thumbs rubbing circles into your hips. You alternate between that motion and grinding on him.He angles his hips just right, driving more firmly against that perfect spot each time you bounced up and down. You wonder if you’re still dreaming. It feels euphoric, being completely surrounded by his entire being - his intoxicating smell, the warmth from his skin, his voice filling your ears.

A mixture of pre cum and your juices accumulates at the base of his dick and every vein on his cock dragged against your velvety walls, catching on your entrance as you pulled back before falling back on to him.

“C’mon, cum,” he purrs, biting at your ear. “I know you want to. Listen—“ “You hear those sounds?”

The words have you tightening around Gins length, as you continued to lift your self faster up and down his dick. The soft groans he gives, the whines give too, mix and mingle in the sex-steamed air. Your head started to feel fuzzy and your skin jumped with sensitivity.

“fuck, it’s so deep gin... gonna cummmm” You whine as you wrapped your arms around his neck, and he leaned down to suck on the skin of your neck; licking and nipping at the bruised skin.

“let it go baby...” he growled, watching your hips rock against him.

Feverishly, your pussy tightens around his cock, your mouth opens but no sounds come out of it. Your orgasm runs though your body like a lighting, igniting every single nerve just to come crashing into you in a wave of relief.

"Hah~ yeah that feels good, hold on im almost done." Gin groans, taking ahold on your hips and moving your overstimulated body up and down.

“y/n,” he breathed out, a shiver crawling up his back at the vice grip your walls had around his cock. “shit…” his hips start to stutter and he harshly pulls you down, burying himself deep into your creamy pussy, relishing in the warm feeling, before pumping a heavy load of warm cum into your tummy. His cum wouldn’t stop until your belly was swollen with his hot seed, and he eventually pulls you in for another warm kiss.

When you pull apart, your left panting; eyes hooded with lust.

"You know.... back in my day girls actually went commando all the time."

[metaharlot]

Hijiginpachi Unfinished Draft From Years Ago lol

This is an unfinished teacher/student Hijigin scenario I’ve literally held since I was in high school lmao

Spoiler alert: I’m not into underage shit. So this is a Mr Young(?) situation where Gintoki/Ginpachi somehow became a teacher as a teen & was the same age as everyone he taught (everyone was aged down accordingly)

Why was this happening? Genuinely I don’t remember why but I think it was smth about budget cuts to the anime in-universe lmao

Anyway here’s an unfinished snippet + ending notes

Also I’m aware that you probably don’t have to go to a police academy to become a cop but back then and even now I don’t have enough respect towards cops to research them. I hear enough on the news

The Shinsengumi & Mimawarigumi are on thin ice cause they get made fun off enough/their force literally got dissolved 

Anyway Gintoki & Hijikata liked each other while they were teacher/student but their emotionally constipated asses only found the courage to confess after graduation/before Toshi was literally about to leave on the train for school

They stayed in touch & Toshi was like if our feelings haven’t changed by the time I become a cop do you want to try this for real?

Obviously their feelings remain the same and they entered a happy if not extremely dysfunctional relationship

And three years after they entered said relationship, Toshi finally feels comfortable enough to make a certain kinky request…

“…Really?”

Ginpachi tried to cover his growing smirk with hand, but with how he could see the tips of Hijikata's ears turning bright red it seemed he wasn’t very successful.

“I’m not judging man. It’s just…wow it must have been a struggle holding this one in for so long.”

Hijikata turned to the side face burning as he clenched his fist.

“Look if you’re not interested you can just say so, you don’t have to tease-“

Hijikata’s speech was cut off by a finger on his lips.

“Now, now my darling little tsundere. I never said that, did I?” Ginpachi said, slowly climbing onto Hijikata’s lap.

 Hijikata sputtered, seemingly unsure of where to put his hands before resting them on Ginpachi’s waist. Ginpachi raised an eyebrow before moving those shaking hands down to cup his ass.

“Gin-!”

Gintoki cut him off with a kiss, both of them moaning into it as Hijiakata gripped his old teacher’s ass tighter.

Both of them were panting by the time they parted, a string of spit stretching put between their mouths.

“I was a little surprised by the ageplay aspect, though it does make sense in retrospect. You were pretty into that Kondo kid who got held back for a while huh?”

“Don’t call Kondo-san ‘kid’ he’s literally a few years older than us. And still in our lives.”

“But Gin-san still won your affections in the end didn’t he.”  Ginpachi slid his hands off of Hijikata’s shoulders to flex dramatically.

That caused the first peal of laughter to burst out of Hijikata’s mouth since he made the initial request. Despite the fact that it was teasingly at his expense, Gintoki couldn’t help but soften. As much as he loved to tease his thorny cop he loved his laugh. He was so serious at only 27. Gin-san refused to be a widow because his stupid loved didn’t know how to relax.

Ginpachi placed a hand on Hijikata’s face and turned him until they were looking each other in the eye.

“So let Gin-san share some of his own affection for you, hm? It’s not like this is a hardship, otherwise I wouldn’t do it.”

“And I would have had to deal with your bitchy complaining the whole time.” Hijikata nodded solemnly.

“And you would have had to deal with my bitchy complaining the whole time.” Ginpachi nodded solemnly.

They made eye contact again and started laughing. Hijikata sighed and rested his head on Gintoki’s voluminous chest.

“…thanks Gin.”

“Hey you gotta learn to rely on your old teacher more.” Then Ginpachi snorted. “Oh sorry, should I wait to pull out that line tomorrow? That sounds like something you’d obsess over your dilf teacher saying if you were still a cherry boy teenager.” 

“Oh, shut UP.” Hijikata slapped Gintoki’s shoulder.

“Whaaaaat. I just said there’s no shame in this Hijikata-kuuuun.”

Hijikata rolled his eyes and pressed his face further into Gintoki’s chest. 

“…You sure the school is empty tomorrow?”

“Yeah there’s some important district-wide teacher conference that lasts a few days and everyone has to go. Luckily for us I got banned from that YEARS ago after kicking the main speaker in the nuts.”

“…you’re such a menace.”

“But I’m your menace.” Ginpachi fluttered his eyelashes at Hijikata sickeningly sweet.

Hijikata just stared back at him unimpressed.

“…let’s just go to bed. I don’t think I can handle any more of your corniness.”

Hijikata started walking to their bedroom, carrying Gintoki in his arms.

“Hey!!! You love Gin-san’s corniness! Otherwise you wouldn’t be choking so often on his cob!”

~~~

“D-don’t tease me!”

“Don’t tease you?”

Ginpachi-sensei gasped as he was pulled up by his hair and forcibly turned to face Hijikata.

“You made me wait four years to have you.”

Ginpachi-sensei wailed as Hijikata slapped his ass with his graduation certificate, continuing to thrust into his former teacher’s needy hole.

“You rejected me again, and again, and again.”

“N-noooo!” Ginpachi-sensei gasped as Hijikata blew into his ear.

“Then finally in my fourth year, you said that we can try after I graduate.”

Hijikata flipped Ginpachi-sensei over on his desk and slammed his wrists down.

“I’m leaving for the police academy.”

Hijikata stopped thrusting, laying his head down on Ginpachi-sensei’s shoulder.

“I won’t see you for years.”

Ginpachi-sensei stared at the younger boy’s head, then sighed, wrapping his arms around Hijikata and holding him tight.

“I know.”

“...Will you miss me?”

Ginpachi-sensei gripped onto him even tighter.

“More than you could ever imagine.” 

Ginpachi-sensei felt his shoulder growing wet and shook his head fondly.

What a troublesome person.

“Thank you. I feel so much better after hearing you say that.”

Deep blue eyes looked up to meet Ginpachi-sensei’s wine red ones. Then Hijikata grabbed Ginpachi-sensei’s hips and thrust in as deeply as he could.

Ginpachi-sensei screamed.

“H-Hijikata-kun no~!”

“Toushiro.”

“W-wha-?” Ginpachi-sensei’s back arched as Hijikata started going even faster.

“Call me Toushiro.”

“T-Toshi~” Ginpachi’s eyes start rolling up into his head at Hijikata’s merciless thrusts.

“Come on you can say it~. Or have I already fucked you so stupid you can’t say three simple syllables?” Hijikata grinned ferally.

Tears beaded in Gintoki’s eyes, one dripping down and leaving a trail of eyeliner.

“T-Toshi! Toushiro pleaseeee. M-mercy please~”

Hijikata then rips open Ginpachi-sensei’s shirt and starts playing with his nipples

Ginpachi screeches at Hijikata and tells him to slow down cause he’s too old for this. Hijikata retorts that Ginpachi is literally only 27

Hijikata licks up Gintoki’s neck and starts muttering how jealous he is of all of Ginpachi’s other admirers that haven’t graduated yet. How they better appreciate the fact that they can still see Ginpachi everyday

G: Brat it’s not like I make it a habit of dating my students! For better or worse you’re my only exception

Hijikata gets like 85% rougher after that while Ginpachi can only wail and moan on his giant dick

Cue Ginpachi cumming violently but Hiji just keeps going

Ginpachi-sensei’s just begging him to stop but he’s not so lots of sobbing

Hijikata proceeds to fuck him in all the spots he fantasized about while he was still a student:

He slams Ginpachi’s face into the blackboard, hand in his hair as he lifts one of the teacher’s legs over his shoulder, forcing him to stand on his tip-toes and clutch desperately at the protruding bottom part of the blackboard. Slamming into Ginpachi’s prostate as the helpless teacher cums all over himself and the floor

He sits himself down on Ginpachi’s chair in the front, and forces Ginpachi to bounce on his dick and play with his nipples. If Ginpachi slows down or stops, Hijikata will grab both of his wrists and rub him off multiple times. Otherwise this is Ginpachi’s one “reprieve” from cumming, as this is the only time Hijikata focuses more on getting himself off than making Ginpachi cum his brains out

Then Hijikata switches places with Ginpachi but with a twist. Hijikata maneuvers himself underneath Ginpachi’s desk as he places both of the teacher’s legs on his desk, leaving everything out for Hijikata’s eyes, and mouth, and hands, and tongue only. Regardless of his exhaustion, Ginpachi still finds the energy to scream as Hijikata offers his dick, balls, perineum, and asshole no mercy

After that meal, Hijikata gives Ginpachi a quick water break as he opens the window blinds and brings his old desk to the window where he saw Ginpachi waving at him just before he left for the academy. So of course he fucks him over that small desk and Ginpachi has no room and is forced to rest his upper body against the window, screaming as his burning nipples feel like they’re being iced against the window, and leaving various handprints, breathmarks and drool against the window

Hijikata also pulls him up by his hair once more as he slaps his ass with his graduation certificate once more

There’s nothing coming out of Ginpachi’s dick, it’s not even standing up anymore and Ginpachi collapses, Hijikata following him and gently lowering him down to the ground

Ginpachi’s gasping and crying as he’s crushed under Hijikata’s weight and dick, trying and failing to crawl away as Hijikata fucks him into the ground

Hijikata rolls them over to the side to give Ginpachi a second to breathe, lifting the poor teacher’s leg up in his arm and fucks him slowly and sensually for the last time

He then rolls Ginpachi onto his back, and sees him all messed up, wearing nothing but his lab caot which has fanned on the ground beneath him, thighs spread, legs trembling & cum leaking out while Ginpachi-sensei is whimpering 

H: I’ll miss you so much Ginpachi-sensei…

Ginpachi-sensei gets irritated and yells about him going overboard with his stupid youthfulness and how he should think more about elders who still have to work the next day

Then Ginpachi-sensei softens & sits up groaning (Hiji has to fight hard not to jump him again especially cause Ginpachi-sensei gives him warning look)

G: “Five years will pass in a flash Toushiro, even if it doesn’t feel like that at first I promise it will”

Then Ginpachi pulls him in close for a hug. “I will miss you. I’ll be the one who waits this time. I love you.”

Hijikate tears up as he hugs Ginpachi-sensei back. 

H: How is it you still make me feel like such a kid? I swear I’ll come back as a man you can be proud of.

The Roleplay ends as Hijikata whispers that he hopes he’s lived up to that promise.

Ginpachi rolls his eyes and kisses him back hard

G: You never needed to prove yourself. I’ve loved you back then and with every person you’ll become

Then Hijikata has to carry Ginpachi home and gives a lot of aftercare while Ginpachi teases him a little more aggressively than usual

Because even though it’s still Saturday he’s exhausted from the sex and cleaning up and they both have work on Monday

~~~

I also had a note that went like: Gonna leave a butt(?) imprint if you know what I mean wink wonk (dirty talk)

I think I was trying to say they’ll fuck on the desk and Gintoki will leave a sweaty butt print (like that one Sakagin fic)

Very unimportant to the story but it’s haunted/lifted my spirits for years so you guys get it too

I might write/rewrite it in better detail one day but I’ve had so much writer burnout. Just in case, here y’all go

[joelletwo]

wrestling with the 4devas bitchslap again to convince myself its fine if graveyard wins the best ep tourney: it's not the other bloggers who are wrong, it's me

not a complete response to but definitely in conversation with and asking some of the same questions again as @reductionisms's 4devas essay, which tries to square gintoki's "life doesn't need to be fun, i just need you to live" being a series-sanctioned message he's given to villains as an arc-concluding moral continuously up until 4devas with it here being an incorrect worldview that needs to be (physically) corrected by shinpachi, the straightman tonal signpost of gintama

a conflict i have been perplexed by ever since i got to this line on my first watch a year or two ago, since i've seen this line before! all over fandom! as part of the general "dont [bottom text] kill yourself" motivational messaging of gintama that i love!

and, briefly, when i hit 4devas i was also in the middle of being really frustrated by the new arc pattern i was seeing crop up: i loved the villains-turned sympathetic-turned someone worth saving by gintoki tune of the first half of gintama, but it fell massively flat for me in Yoshiwara in Flames, where i was never convinced to be on housen's side but had to watch him get a heartwarming redemptive death at the side of the woman he abused anyways.

then shortly after i had the same exact experience in Red Spider with jiraia, and i thought, if this is what gintama is gonna do with its shitty dudes from now on im gonna quit the fucking show. and then shortly after that i met jirochou and saw him cut down otose the woman he loved (under a raining sky!!! the fucking sky motifs!!! the signpost im about to watch a dude be shittily violent to women and be expected to feel sorry for him about it) and saw too much red to really take in the rest of the arc level-headedly or care about anything in it lol.

so it was written off in my mind as the 'otose almost gets fridged' arc until i rewatched it this week. then i had to remember, oh yeah, there's a ton of political maneuvering fakeouts in this arc that i never actually squared back with how the plot presented itself prior to the reveals, so i'd still been thinking about the "fakeout" plot. then i read the manga version with all the "truths" in mind from the start, and finally i felt like i could understand what this arc is doing a little better.

(way) tldr (4.4k words. sorry): do i love this arc? eh. do i still hate it? eh. but it's doing stuff!

first, i was able to see an echo in all the "actually i was planning to betray you the whole time" "actually i was working to help you the whole time" plot beats of what sorachi does with the larger edo/universe story further into the back half of the manga. if i ever sound like i didnt enjoy or wasnt convinced by the execution of these "reveals," it's because i didnt and wasnt, lol. but it's fun that he had fun with them i guess.

the arc starts with pirako ingratiating herself into yorozuya, then having a classic "bump into you and pretend to be injured to extort you" encounter w her dad's gang. to resolve this without escalating into violence, gintoki... does it back to them, which is really funny. but thus the tone is set for the arc of: DISHONEST APPROACHES TO CONFLICT.

pirako isnt honest about her overall intentions the, like, seven different times that she "admits her real ones." kada plays at peacekeeper in the devas while being the ultimate person scheming to get the upper hand over everyone else in the end. (she's also secretly harusame, evil amanto outsider who acts as a unifying force for the kabukicho fighting itself to band together against and expel: sorachi's favorite move! the problem was never internal, it's the shadowy REAL antagonists who infiltrated us)

jirochou and otose are ultimately doing a pantomime of conflict to try to keep temperatures down and escalations from breaking out, so no one they care about has to get hurt. gintoki doesn't know this until the end, but he follows in their footsteps after his encounter with them in the graveyard: he plays at having given up to the rest of yorozuya so they'll leave and escape the coming kabukicho war, the same thing otose was trying with him. it fails both times. i'm really not sure why gintoki and otose thought it would work, honestly. they should know their kids are stubborn as hell.

but gintoki is in a bind because of the things he needs to protect, and all of his actions are primarily in service of that, to the detriment of how he'd prefer to act if he were less restricted. he is unsurprised and unoffended to hear saigou is only willing to warn them, not help them, because her son is in danger if she acts directly. all four devas are, seemingly, being mutually restrained this way, holding back even when blatantly manipulated to do so. the other constant of this arc: everyone is dishonest, and no one wants to risk losing what they have.

gintoki understands that! of course! he's had to make that calculus before, after all :)

and this arc is just one big cliff scene echo: the entire graveyard scene pushing gintoki to emotional regression because he thinks he's losing another parent figure, one he's just seen the Gintoki Figure of the arc cut down, no less (takasugi stolen valor when he goes berserk against him and only ends up uselessly bleeding out on the ground about it, honestly). otose goes into this willingly so gintoki can live. he accepts this decision because he values protecting her values (her kids living on) and is briefly broken by it (the story says, before giving him shinpachi to "put him back on track"). prior to the bitchslap, after saying he just wants them to live, even if it has to be without him, he says:

i dont have a good understanding of when we start getting reveals of gintoki's backstory versus foreshadowing because i went into gintama already knowing most of it, but definitely by the recent red spider where we get our first real look at (or really, first listen to) shouyou. but here we actually get some of what gintoki felt about it, which he keeps closely guarded even when the whole truth comes out: he's done his best to survive having lost, but it was so unbearable he can't face losing again.

(also, honorable mention backstory echo, the person calling him a brother sets his home on fire to drive him and his parent figure out of town. as i liveblogged: this one would really hurt gintoki if gintoki cared about anything oboro ever did!)

but with the shinpachi story-rerouting, they get the good end, keep everyone (otose, yorozuya, all of kabukicho, even pirako and her dad - everyone but kada) safe without having to sacrifice a single thing, even keep gintoki hopeful for this outcome. so, as goose points out, we are left to understand that there could have been a good end on the cliff, that something is different here than there, and, skipping a lot of math, that that is the people around gintoki.

which i do find really funny to imagine as a slam on takasugi and katsura. sorry you kids suck too much, your teacher dies bc u were cringefail. but lets look at it.

everyone is dishonest, no one wants to risk what they have: gintoki rallies himself to keep fighting but is determined to do it alone. kagura and shinpachi fight him on this; they can't leave because they don't want to lose their home, they can't let him fight alone because they don't want to lose him. they're just as restricted by what they have to keep safe, but their only option is to act where everyone else's is inaction. shinpachi says:

if i may skip over the bitchslap itself for now, gintoki does consent to let his allies fight with him after it. yorozuya stands alone against saigou, who's heavily demoralized but resigned, strongarmed into fighting them by the threat to her son. but on seeing their resolve to keep protecting their own precious home and family she says:

and, to skip straight to my thought, i think this is what turns the tides back in their favor. there are more twists and turns to the fight. pirako equates what binds saigou, which she herself equates to what binds the yorozuya, to what binds her:

(with an intentional distinction that she's willing to actively destroy the others', as opposed to their purely self defensive fighting, which is echoed at some point in her distinguishing gintoki from jirochou in the same way, that jirochou not only lives to protect like gintoki but is willing to destroy in the process. i don't find that part as interesting, but it's more fuel to the power of having something to protect as a driving force as an arc theme.)

so now all three stand on the same ground, absolutely unwilling to give up what they hold dear, but all their cards are on the table. they aren't dealing in 12 dimensions of tricksy defensive pre-emptive moves anymore. they know it wouldnt work, anyways, since they all know their drives to protect are the same and no one will be talked into backing down. now they can directly duke it out and let the winner be determined that way, on strength of will. even before the actual circumstances change, the fight somehow feels freer seeing how inevitable it is. and with everything out in the open, yorozuya can now protect each other and saigou's son, taking out one side of the conflict.

(and with everything out in the open, the ultimate 4devas villain can become the single person who continues to betray the others, kada, whose further machinations - with everything out in the open! - saigou (and later yorozuya) can choose to protect pirako from. everyone wins! because everything was out in the open! do you see where i'm going)

and so we come back to the question: gintoki is corrected, the arc is rerailed to the better outcome. so is the correction justified?

what does the correction accomplish outside of its moment? most convincingly to me of goose's presented options, i also think it's done as a thematic shift, a, okay, just live was a strategy that worked before but now doesn't suffice, so we need something more.

as to why this is needed now and not earlier or later...tldr bad planning <3 but like.

we have, prior to this, a consistent thrust of arcs where gintoki teaches people to lose. as well, while we meet the harusame and we visit space and we get the barest glimpses of takasugi's weird shadowy background moves there, largely we're dealing with kabukicho characters and kabukicho stories. we see or only hear about the shogun for short comedic moments only. we've largely dropped the series intro focus on things like the shinsengumi or hasegawa acting as foreign diplomats. it's a local series, a hometown series, a kabukicho and not even an edo at large series, a personal story about gintoki making personal connections with his personal experience as a flawed person with a flawed approach to life that has let him, chronic slacker, get by on the bare minimum.

at this moment, chapter 300, we have a slow trickle of gintoki backstory starting to come out to us. we've recently expanded the story focus to include yoshiwara, which gets a callout in this arc by kada to keep it relevant. we have an arc of sorachi testing out plot beats that he'll use again for the endgame, in all the political maneuvering and alliancing and betraying and shadowy outsider space governmenting, where he's also doing a lot of echoing of that backstory that only becomes clear later. so it's possible he's thinking about shifting gears and setting up for the eventual endgame, which means getting out of the episodic cycle so things can stick.

and after this arc, to my opinion and memory, we stop getting the classic gintama flavor sympathizable'd antagonists. a lot of the bigger arcs don't even have clear Big Shot antagonists anymore, being more about the shouyoucore theme of characters fighting against themselves, or if there is one they're always explicitly part of the Shadow Government now, a unified and more daunting force than someone they can win over with an inspiring gintoki interaction.

so 4devas does act as a turning point at least in some way. and it's not possible to say this definitively, since all gintama arcs are ultimately never going to be about gintoki or his friends Actually losing something instead of beating the odds, but it does feel like theres a different flavor to, say, dekobokko with its direct look at how chars lives could be different and better and they will still choose to keep struggling as themselves. and Kintama arc definitely doesn't feel like an early days arc, like it can only resolve the way it does with a gintoki who is now able to face his past and the possibility of losing again and again and again (now with, natch, his faith that yorozuya will by his side when he does).

why now, after 300 chapters of letting it sit ignored in the back of his brain working out perfectly fine except when it doesn't (the very reminder of shouyou in a fight making him go Demon Mode, which is like regular gintoki but worse at fighting, bc he is so unprepared to think about shouyou)? well i personally am in big favor of the "take a decade off" strategy for facing problems. it worked for me too. realistically watsonianly its nice to let things percolate in the brain and do some of the processing behind the scenes until its less immediately painful. and he's made many bonds over these 300 chapters, shown in this arc when the whole town rallies behind him, that are there to support him when he needs it now and weren't there before.

realistically doylistly eh. bad planning.

and so we come back to the question: gintoki is corrected, the series as a result is rerailed to a writing space where things can start changing (leave the episodic, as you guys say, sazae-san format). it's useful in the future. so is the correction justified in terms of what comes before it? was the correction needed?

thinking about the bitchslap leads to thinking about the cliff scene leads to (sorry kagura and katsura, you guys arent really relevant here) pitting shinpachi and takasugi against each other in how they act with something on the line they can't bear to give up.

i don’t need the lesson of 4devas to apply logistically to the cliff scene. once they were set up on that chessboard, frozen in their assigned places as a backstory, it’s not like takasugi could’ve power of friendship’d his way out of being physically retrained if he decided he wanted to. it’s set up as a forced choice, it has to play out as a forced choice.

but we see that even before it’s asked of him, takasugi is willing, prepared, unbothered to give up his own life for shouyou’s. this is, goose lays out in the sequel, the cardinal sin in gintama - a teacher shouldn’t outlive their student. it would have been especially egregious to shouyou, whose whole desired life’s purpose is to raise students who can outlive him and outgrow him, take his lessons and go out into the world and do their own thing with them. takasugi doesn’t expect to do this and doesn’t seem to see a point in the possibility if shouyou isn’t back with them.

though we can also think of shouyou as a little too quickly willing to give up on the cliff - sorry, gintoki, the suicidal guy has thought about it for .02 seconds and decided the best outcome is for you to kill him even though he could get out of this no problem. maybe its no wonder gintoki gave up too. can we ask katsura what he would’ve done?

and is takasugi different from shinpachi there? he rejects the mentor’s attempt to exchange his own life for his. he’s not willing to consider a life without him.

but shinpachi is convinced no one is going to die. because they’ll be there together. incredibly naive - shinpachi and kagura, restricted to one option by what they need to protect like everyone is in 4devas, have acting as that one option because they are still free in a way gintoki and the other adults aren't. they’ve never actually experienced the impossible choice that forces you to give up, so they can act as if there isn’t one - what else would they do? why would they think to give up?

but gintoki is defined by having lived the impossible choice. its built into the foundation of him as a character and leaks out everywhere. he couldn’t have relied on his friends on the cliff because they were quite forcibly removed from the picture as an option, not by his or their choice. its written as an inevitability, logistics we find out later be damned.

if we refocus to 4devas, we can look at the Gintoki Figure for a different angle. jirochou, after he and gintoki resolve the arc conflict by being able to team up because they - say it with me - put everything out in the open, tells gintoki about his impetus for abandoning his family and coming back to his wayward life in kabukicho, the death of otose's husband.

it's, um, another now really obvious parallel to gintoki, lol. characters talk about how jirochou does everything he does in this arc to try to atone for his failure to both otose and tatsugorou, and i guess thats true bc he was written that way but he has an odd way of showing it, but anyways he resolves that, despite his guilt over this, all he can do now is keep living and keep protecting what they loved together. he's come to the usual gintama message all on his own, reinforcing that this is the correct way to live in this series. he had his own unavoidably shitty situation, and he came to terms with it.

so then where did jirochou go wrong, in the narrative's eyes (other than abandoning one woman and their child to deal drugs in the town of his other woman while ignoring her)? was there a point he could've changed how their trio's story played out? but he loved and trusted tatsugorou, and he was happy to step aside and let him be the one by their otose's side. i doubt he would have been happy stealing her away even if it were possible.

but if we look at the resolution tool of 4devas... he never put everything out in the open!!! everyone knows he loved otose, but in more of an open secret way. in classic romance plot, he never confessed for second male lead rejection closure. indeed, in the closest we ever get to a main character having a romantic plot in gintama, the very ending of the arc flirts with him doing just that now that he's made a little progress with the arc message, with the entire cast of the arc expecting him to (and interrupting before he can).

but if he had when they were young. if he had been honest with his friends. could it have opened up other options that weren't available on his own, that they didnt know to offer? i have a preferred one lol. but u can get creative with all sorts of life paths that avoid tatsugorou dying that way or, at the least, jirochou feeling chained to a shameful life (living in a town he doesn't go out in to protect a woman he doesnt talk to and feeling like he doesnt deserve the family he abandoned for this) because of it.

and then if we take this and rewind back to the cliff... we get to grind my favorite ax, "shouyou shouldve told literally anyone literally anything about his deal." if gintoki knew more about shouyou, they could've faced his horrors together, the whole time. he couldve known that shouyou was being literal calling himself a demon and not internalized his own identity as one for life just because shouyou bonded with him over it. i truly genuinely think the logical conclusion of all of gintama's big messages are that shouyou and gintoki should have been more open with each other.

but i don't think sorachi thinks that. and, you know, by 4devas rules, the unriskable precious things he was protecting by staying silent were his students' humanity, and secondarily his own fragilely newly hopeful heart that literally couldnt stand another 10 millionth round of rejection (killed himself and then went on a 12 year rampage over it. girl i would too).

and takasugi really isn't dishonest about what's going on in his head when he tells us he expects to die for shouyou. that's as cards on the table as i could ask. gintoki is, a little bit, by omission. he does what i'd want him to here - tells takasugi try just not dying - but doesn't give him a reason to, and doesn't tell him he has no plans of letting anyone die for shouyou.

so what goes wrong on the cliff - shouyou is happy, gintoki is happy, oboro's even kind of happy, katsura is irrelevant - is that takasugi is blindsided (whoops) by their silent agreement that betrays the one he thought he and gintoki had. and then ruins everyone's party about it and spends the next ten years doing so for good measure.

which is also, basically, what shinpachi is going through that prompts the bitchslap, too. he thought they were a team, that they had each others backs, not that gintoki is a one-way protector of them. he is blindsided by gintoki lying to and tricking them and hiding things from them. he is hurt by gintoki feeling hopeless all by himself when he could share that with them and be encouraged by their endless child optimism.

and would it need to have changed anything on the cliff? in the moment after the bitchslap, what contributes to gintoki changing his mindset is tama telling him, we trust that you're capable bc youve always shown us that, can you trust us this time? when, later in the arc, gintoki seems to regress by sending kagura and shinpachi away, he asks them to trust that he's still trusting them, relying on them to help shoulder his burden, and in return they know he's staying alive, not self sacrificing. maybe it would've helped just to feel on the same team and not shut out, to be able to trust gintoki like gintoki was trusting shouyou?

so. two paralleled instances of gintoki making a bad situation worse by keeping to himself and being too self sufficient. that feels clear cut that feels fine im okay with that as a takeaway. do i think its exactly what sorachi had in mind while writing this, as opposed to just a good series 'hey lean on your friends' moment to read cool and tug at the heartstrings? eh lol. i think theres definitely room to read takasugi into this arc (i still need to refind the takagin 4devas post...) but its not so baked in that i think he was a PRIORITY in the plotting.

but is the shinpachi SCOLDING necessary is the scolding justified... and yes its in response to life doesnt need to be fun i just want you to live. still a confusing framing i can't immediately square. but/and more immediately its directly responding. to gintoki opening up to them about his insecurities!!

which, as said, he doesnt do!! he doesnt talk about his failures! its basically like, here and to hijikata that one time and otherwise even when we know all the facts about what happened we still never hear gintoki himself talk about it. (so he really DOESNT learn the lesson here either. he stays dissociated and triggered every time utsuro comes up. he tries to solve the altana baby problem on his own. he doesnt talk to his new friends OR his old friends. bwah. gintoki. silver soul.)

so this is like. its just in the wrong order!! its just in a baffling order lol. if you want gintoki to share his burden do you need to punch him when he shares it. does it also need to sound like you're blaming him for not being capable of upholding his promise to protect anyone when thats the insecurity thats got him all discombobulated this arc in the first place (a whole set of notes i took on this that i didnt find a place for in this post)?? its so weeeeiiiiiirddd lol i dont liiikeee itttttt. theres plenty of things shinpachi can validly punch gintoki for but this is such a weird one.

so i guess. having a clearer understanding of this arc do i hate it less? YES honestly. i hate fakeout plots generally they irritate me but everything... more or less makes sense by gintama standards now that i have the whole plot in mind.

do i hate jirochou less SORT OF? i enjoy him. in his individual relationships. i like his shitty dad deal i love shitty dads. i like him pining for otose who genuinely likes him but also brings up her husband every sentence she says to him just to keep him down. i like his parallels with gintoki that they both explicitly acknowledge and find macho comfort in. hes still not theeeeeeeee most well-developed gintama antagonist but you know? i at least think otose and pirako would want to be around him after this.

do i feel like i have a clearer understanding of the bitchslap moment. NOT CONVINCED I DO. i feel like its going to be one of those things that slips in and out of my understanding like sand in cupped hands. i have a tentative understanding of it that i dont think sorachi actually had in mind. so i dont think ive solved it lol.

will i be cursed to think about 4devas forever? god i hope not. am i okay with it beating farewell shins in the polls. god i fucking hope it does. in the horrible timeline where i have to see 305 make it all the way and then lose i guess id rather it be to this one than to hijigin. consider this poll propaganda?

[agroupofcrows]

how come gintoki can't swim yet never really drowns

water is purification, memory, change, mortality and predetermination (river and its set course) but also eternity (sea,) of course gintoki can't swim.

and of course gintoki can swim. he is refusing to swim, just how he refuses to remember the past and how he sells his protagonist rights for a chocolate parfait.

one could even say that the entire first half of the story - with its flying ships - is underwater. right until the warship crashes on top of utsuro in the reveal scene.

but most of all water is transformation: a closed cycle of cloud -> rain -> surface water, unable to escape the circles of the world. another reason why gintoki can't swim - he is water.

sorry im contractually obligated to put this in the end. he really tried EVERYTHING until the very last moment to escape the story lmao. iconic

[thithesandofferings]

The church is in agreement

∆Fandoms Presented: FF7. One Piece. Gintama. DBZ. Black Clover. Kengan.

∆ A/N: I will add fics if it suits me. The Masterlist is in progress! Dates will be added later!

::18+MDNI::: Dark themes ahead. Links will be in the title . Please be patient for October!

 FF7

-           “And We All Fall Down” Neibelheim!Sepiroth x Reader: He’s cocky enough that he thinks he needs a prize for his glorious, fiery achievement. And he has chosen you, a local villager, as such prize. It only makes sense if he fucks you on the ground he’s burned. Tags: Public Themes, Top!Seph Bottom!Reader, Dub-con, Dirty Talk, Knife play- uh sword play?, Choking, Capturing the flag- so to speak.

One Piece

-          “Stretched Thin” Luffy x Reader: Luffy is known to be one of the happiest guys on earth. He gets along with practically everyone. He just doesn’t understand why you don’t like him. You’re nothing anyways. Just a little nerd that’s going to do the whole project while he goes and fucks around with his friends. Though you are…pretty cute- for a nerd. Tags: Bully!Luffy, Nerd!Reader, Public themes- yes the library lol. Luffy is actually mean and we like it. Choking, Spitting, Degradation, Manhandling, Strength Kink

Bleach

-          “Strength Training” Ichigo x Reader x White Ichigo: Ichigo is known to be a little brass, but still very controlled. But sometimes, he just wants to let loose, he wants to see how far he can really go. Ichigo doesn’t know is own strength, but he’s very excited to experiment on you. Tags: Overstimulation, Rough Sex, Biting, Marking, Overall Possessiveness, Mating Press, Hollow..sex?

-          “Heads up Baby” Urahara x Reader: You’ve spent months picking out the perfect sperm donor for you, even consulting your trusted doctor, Dr. Urahara, all about how excited you are for the experience. What you’re not expecting is for him to take an interest in you…and your future child. Tags: Slight stalker themes, public themes, degradation, dubcon themes, kinda insane urahara…. “Just the tip”, Breeding Kink.

-           “Force Fed” Ulquiorra x Reader: You may be trapped, but its uncouth of you not to eat your food. So if you don’t want to eat, then Ulquiorra will find something to force down your throat, whether you like it or not. Tags: Throat fucking, Captivity, Degradation, Dom!Ulquiorra, Tying up, Dub-con.

Gintama

-          “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” Gintoki x Reader x Takasugi Shinsuke: “The only way we’ll get rid of this feud is if we fuck her to see whos better” When Gin decides to bring you to his rivals property- you don’t expect that its you who’ll be the middle man. It doesn’t seem like its your choice either. Tags: Threesome, Dub con, Daddy Kink, Master Kink, Overstimulation, Dirty talk, Fuck you until you pass out, Somno themes because they keep going. Aftercare.

-          “My Mirror Staring Back At Me” Okita Sougo x Reader: It’s your birthday today, but that’s only because he told you. But he’s going to prove how much he loves you and appreciates your birth first thing. Tags: Stockholm Syndrome, Mirror Sex, Manipulative Sougo, Yandere Themes, Breeding kink. Master Kink, Collar, Dub Con themes.

Black Clover

-          “Oh Captain My Captain” Yami x Reader x Nacht: Being in between the Captain and the Vice Captain of the Black Bulls is not how you’d thought initiation would go. You think that maybe using your power would get you into the group but they seem only concerned with using your body. Tags: Threesome, Using your body as payment, Possessiveness, Spit-roasting, Oral M!Recieving. Nacht talks about killing you if you don’t comply. Demon sex- nacht.

Kengan

-          “Wanna Bet?” Ohma x Reader x Raian: You make a bet with both of them that they wont be able to win a tournament, had you thought smarter- you probably would’ve kept your mouth shut. Tags: Demon? Shapeshifting? Marking, Possessiveness, Strength Kink- more on their side because they like throwing you around. Blood play, just general nasty stuff

Dragon Ball

"Oh baby no..." Vegeta x Goku x Gohan x Trunks x Broly x Raditz x Reader: Mafia AU where your boyfriend who you thought loved and adored you, has run away and put all blame on you for crimes you didnt commit. When you wake up chained, drugged, and a little abused...how will you convince the men standing around you that you didnt do anything. Tags: Gangbang, Slapping, Creampie, Double- Triple penetration, Anal sex, Blow jobs, Choking, Praise, Aphrodisiac.

[writing-in-sin]

Pattern in my OTPs: Sadistic! Top x Fearless! Bottom

Dont mind me, just self-indulging about my OTPs

Anyways!

Recently, I've noticed that I have a certain type when in comes to my OTPs which is a sadistic top paired with a fearless bottom. Granted, not all of my OTPs are of this type but I dont think its an exaggeration when I say that at least 90% of them are like this

GinHiji

Out of all of my OTPs, I'd say GinHiji pretty much embodies my favourite type of OTPs. Gintoki is canonically a Sadist and in fact, is known to be a Do-S alongside Sougo. Contrasting him is the fearless yet tsundere Hijikata. Another reason why I like them is the manzai combi they have. Hijikata is forever exasperated by Gintoki and cant help but be the tsukkomi to Gintoki's boke 🤣

BakuDeku

These 2 have a very complicated relationship but thankfully have improved a lot especially in recent years. Bakugou can be quite sadistic but considering what's happened between them and him canonically wants to do better, I think it'll take awhile for Bakugou to let out that sadistic side of him around Deku

With Deku though, he doesnt mind and I think we all can agree that Deku is a disastrous combination of fearless and reckless 😅

6927

One of my 1st OTPs since high school. Now, I dont think i need to tell anyone who's ever read or watched KHR that Mukuro is hands down quite terrifying and considering his introduction, has a sadistic streak a mile wide

For Tsuna, yeah....while its true that he tend to be more afraid than not but as time went on, it became more apparent that he's grown to be couragous and fearless when it comes to his Famiglia

KamuShin

granted, this is more of a crackship since Kamui and Shinpachi barely interacted but I like how their personalities mesh together. Kamui is another canonically sadistic chara in Gintama, anyone who's ever seen him fight in the Yoshiwara or Silver Soul arc can attest to that. Not to mentioned all of the shenanigans and mayhem he likes to cause with a deranged grin

Shinpachi is noted to be fearless in his own right, capable of accomplishing feats that other normal humans would feel impossible to even try. cant forget that he's also the one who made Utsuro pause before the timeskip

plus, they're also a manzai combi! a Do-S Yato boke with a glasses tsukkomi XD

ParaEmu

initially, i like them as a switch couple but recent years make me lean more of them as a fixed pair with Parad as a top. starting out as a villain, Parad was noted to be quite sadistic especially when he possessed Emu. He's since mellowed out but since we dont see much of how the charas are post-canon, its hard to say if he retained his more sadistic nature. i tend to hc that he does but only lets it out when needed

if anyone knows Emu's not so pleasant childhood and how he's risen to overcome many obstacles in life, then i think we can agree that he's become one of the most fearless charas in Ex-Aid

DeathPuss

okay, this one is pretty much on the nose. sadistic grim reaper hunting down everyone's favourite fearless hero anyone?

WangXian

Wei Wuxian is one of the most fearless charas I've ever had the pleasure to know about. the way he holds onto his morals and convictions even as the whole world turned against him is nothing short of inspiring. born with a smile and a noble heart that's matched by his beloved husband Lan Wangji

while he's not sadistic in the usual sense, Lan Wangji in the novel is known to mercilessly tease his husband especially in :ehem: bed. not to mentioned that when he deems it necessary, this man never hesitates to swiftly cut people down with just a few words right at jugular too

DazuShi

a suicidal former Port Mafia who's known to torture people paired with his steadily fearless were-tiger. i love their dynamic

MiSawa

Miyuki Kazuya is canonically known as twisted by both allies and opponents alike even feared to the point of petrifying the target of his ire with just a glare.

Sawamura Eijun? the fearless sunshine boy who overcome odds that would and have retired many players from the game. the Yips arc was remarkable in showing Eijun's strength and determination

KaiShin

the trickster who can easily manipulate law enforcements and enemies alike. its more noted in the early chapters of the manga, but Kaito was more callous. while thats no longer the case, Kaito is still quite unhinged

Shinichi? well, with all the reckless stunts he's pulled over the past 20+ years, i think fearless is an understatement for this detective

LawLu

the recent addition to my OTP list. LawLu is the one that made me realise that I tend to favour sadistic tops when I was trying to articulate Law's preference in my HC

thats when I realised that Law has a sadistic streak in canon. while its not explored all that much since he's an ally of the Straw Hats, we see hints of it. combined with the fact that he's a nerd, big on plans and control, he's a terrifying force. this is the same guy who cut opened 100 pirate hearts and sent them to the Marines

Luffy? he's fearless as they come. overcoming many hardships and coming out stronger. who fights for freedom and nakama even if it means facing death. hell, its canon that he's not afraid to face death for what he believes in

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With that said, I love my OTPs 🤩😍

.....Also, should I be worried that I'm a little too fond of sadistic tops for my OTPs? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[averagelonelypotato]

it is way too early for me to think of my fav character getting his back blown out, WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME

[yamameta-inc]

the most important factor when shipping things that aren’t outlined or implied in canon or where the characters don’t have much canonical dynamic going on is how much it strengthens and adds to an existing situation. everyone and their mom knows joui 4 is real in a way few other anime Main Character Group polycules are real. and I genuinely am invested in sakamoto/takasugi even if they’ve only interacted 1.5 times. and that’s because of the following mathematical premises:

1. takagin is (obviously) real

2. takazura funny never married divorcees

3. everyone falls for sakamoto because of his SS rank charisma stat

what we end up here with is the following situations, all of them funny and therefore good:

- sakamoto threw up in gintoki’s face upon their first meeting and gintoki developed a crush on him anyway and ditched his childhood friends to hang out with the handsome new guy who’s really annoying and talks too loud. and who also threw up on you (takasugi)

- despite this takasugi doesn’t hold it against sakamoto because no one holds it against sakamoto. sakamoto’s allowed to do that

- zura also doesn’t hold it against sakamoto. however he Does hold it against takasugi and develops numerous fascinating complexes about takagin’s existence (and probably his ntr kink in the process)

- sakamoto and zura get along just fine but zura isn’t sakamoto’s type even though sakamoto likes dark haired women who would work as hostesses because zura out-bokkes him

- however this makes him gift him elizabeth. he was never even mad at takasugi and he made a tender flashback shounen promise with gintoki and just never got them anything. and after he met up with them again he continued to not get them anything. except pickled daikon. after he knows gintoki probably got heavily traumatized by the events of the plot he still doesn’t get him anything or text him.

- takasugi has no opinions about ginzura. I don’t think he thinks zura is capable of having a genuine relationship (funny thing for him to think of another human being). and I think ginzura is mainly concentrated in the present where takasugi has used the highest grade exorcism talismans to seal off his panels from any encroaching “gintoki having unspoken feelings and tender tension with old friend from his past” aura

- gintoki is a character born to get into funny situations where he’s in cartoon boxers and interacting with implied femdom gags. he’s a guy we see on a leash and with underwear on his face. he’s a guy who claims to be a virile shounen jump hero but needs to bottom for genre health and also his own health. but he’s stuck with takasugi and zura who both want/need him to top them in different ways. gintoki doesn’t want to deal with it. he wishes sakamoto would elope with him and they could go to sci fi vegas where he’ll drink a lot and forget everything. however sakamoto leaves him on read

- both zura and sakamoto think they were the guy who had to clean up after gintoki and takasugi’s messes and mediate between them. zura felt like it as a conflation of how he felt like a third wheel. sakamoto was genuinely mediating because both parties actually liked him.

- the only guy everyone likes as a blanket rule is never around and doesn’t talk to anyone except zura, because zura knows everyone’s contact information. but he also won’t share

- you know that infamous scene where gintoki and takasugi both picked the same woman at the brothel. and where takasugi (gay boy) spent the whole night unmoving in the corner. okay forget those two have you thought about how zura felt that night. and probably many other nights. he would Never engage in such a morally crass activity. going to the brothel would pollute his samurai soul—sakamoto is also there of course. sakamoto loves brothels. it’s just zura. alone. at home. all his men gone out. leaving just him. in his tent. well it’s fine. it’s his principles vs their degenerate tendencies. they’re all out having sex without him right now…………… even… takasugi………………….

- (takasugi is not having sex)