P101! AU Wanna One Park Woo Jin
featuring: park woo jin, other members of wanna one
genre: fluff!!
word count: 1,698 words
summary: as you walked down the catwalk shining neon lights spelling out your name, you took one quick look at the boy through your tear-filled eyes, only to see him enthusiastically screaming your name. the theatre was bursting with cheers, but somehow, you could only hear his voice.
alrighty alrighty! so i wasn’t sure if the p101 au meant as in the reader was apart of p101 (like season 3) or when the main was in p101 as a past participant, but ill just take it from the perspective of the reader in p101 :D enjoy!
you already were in a very close relationship with park woojin even before p101
you two used to train in the same dance studio in busan, so you knew him as a childhood friend
but he soon moved away to seoul
10 years later, after you moved to seoul with your family, you found out he was participating in p101 season 2
after that you would always support him during p101 season 2
you always bought his fan slogans and cheered him on when he was performing
though you always thought that he had forgotten who you were, it turns out he did remember you
when he performed on stage, he would always search the crowd for your face
somehow, he would always find you, screaming your heart out and waving the slogan with his name and hearts drawn all over it
this never fails to make him smile
especially when he got 6th place on the finale episode, you screamed so hard you lost your voice
and you literally also had tears streaming down your face because you knew how much this show means to him
the sight of you caring and supporting him so much would always make his heart race
after p101 season 2 ended, though he was busy preparing for his debut with the other boys, he would always make time for you
you were also in an entertainment company, maroo, where you were training to become an idol similar to him
he would always watch you practice dancing in your studio and would swing by whenever he could
you were never shy when you danced
in fact, you gain confidence when you dance
when woojin watches you dance, you couldn’t help to do small gestures like blowing a kiss or doing the “come here” finger gesture OK I DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS and winking, overall just teasing him
little did you know these small gestures sends woojin flYING OFF THE MOON
he would get so flustered and his face would turn red
but of course you didn’t know, you were too busy focusing on dancing
other times he would watch you rap
even though you were basically an all-rounder and you preferred singing, woojin loves to hear you rap
you were not as experienced at rapping, it seemed like your rapping was better
so you decided to specialise in rapping, similar to woojin
your company decided to sign you up to participate in p101 season 3 the following year, which you were extremely hyped about
but of course you didn’t tell woojin until a few months before you auditioned
since you were also close to the other members, you decided to tell them all at once
you gathered them all in their dorm living room, and you revealed your participation in the new season
ofc they were super shookt
and they all began congratulating you
jisung: “oh my god, my kid has grown up!! go have fun!”
daehwi threw his arm around you and clung onto your arm, congratulating you
out of the corner of your eye, you saw woojin staring at you with warm and loving eyes
you turned your head to make eye contact with him, only for him to widen his eyes in response
you shot him a sweet smile and a thumbs up, causing him to smile back
it also showed his snaggletooth, which minD YOU is adorable
the rest of the night included everyone eating dinner and playing games with one another
once p101 s3 started, you were super nervous of getting eliminated, so you tried your hardest
also you tried to stand out as much as possible
you confidently danced and rapped in your rank evaluation phase, landing yourself in B class
though you were a bit discouraged not being in A class, woojin told you on the phone to never give up
“p101 is difficult, i understand. all of us are supporting you! y/n, fighting!”
which triggered a chorus of 11 boys cheering you on
honestly, you were so happy because of that
and you continued trying your best
as the episodes went on, you slowly saw your rank go from #41 to #20, which was such a big jump for you
when you performed, though woojin cannot be physically there, you could feel him watching you
which is what he did, in the dorm with the other boys
whenever you started rapping with such passion and when the camera pans to you doing a cute expression, woojin’s eyes would literally sparkle
also when he saw you having fun and being dorky with other participants, he couldn’t help but to smile
all the members knew how much woojin likes you
and how you also liked him back
so they would tease him so much, only for him to hang his head in embarrassment
but he secretly likes it as no one is objecting to him liking you and potentially pursuing you!!
you continued to press on, only focusing on dancing and rapping to the best of your abilities
during the rank re-evaluation, you were promoted to A class
you were so elated
back at the dorm, when woojin saw you enter the door of A class, he jumped out of the sofa seat and crashed onto the floor in excitement
all the members started screaming
they were seriously so proud of you i cant even
nearing the end of the show, together with the friendly reminders from woojin to sleep early and drink more water, you managed to clinch a high ranking of #10 before the final elimination
and d-day came, where it was the final episode
you were so stressed out
you tried to contact woojin, but he wasn’t picking up any calls or answering messages
so you went backstage with a heavy heart
it turns out, you completely forgot that the top11 of p101 season 2 gets to attend the finale as special guests
so when you saw him shouting your name backstage, you freaked out
he tackled you with a hug, before grabbing onto your shoulders after he let go
“y/n, you can do it, i believe in you.”
and this motivated you so much
knowing that he would be watching from the audience’s point of view this time, you had to give it your all
when you performed, his words ignited a fire within you that triggered a flawless performance with your group
you especially left an impact when you performed a difficult stunt during the striking part of the song that wowed the audience
woojin was so impressed he stood up and screamed
“gUYS thATS y/n!!!! RIGHT?? sHe’s so COOOL”
and the other members had to pull him down to not attract attention
after all the performances, all 20 of you were put on stage
your heart was racing and your vision was blurred
you couldn’t even look at woojin at how nervous you were
woojin was also nervous for you
he couldn’t stop panicking
when the rank numbers get smaller and smaller, your hope began to slowly shrink
“and for 4th place,”
you knew it wasn’t you
“with 1,009,214 votes”
you looked down towards the ground
and the all too familiar dead silence fell across the room
theres no way in hell-
“y/l/n y/n!”
you looked up to see all your friends attacking you with hugs
you closed your eyes as tears welled up in your eyes
you covered your mouth in shock
you couldn’t believe it
you hugged everyone back on the way down the stands
as you walked along the catwalk leading up to the glowing pyramid, you bowed and waved to everyone in the audience
you just couldn’t stop smiling
and guess who couldn’t stop smiling as well?
yesyes itS PARK WOOJIN
he is screaming at the top of his lungs
he cannot contain his excitement for your high ranking
you turned towards the area where wanna one was sitting, only to see 11 boys cheering and screaming your name
and you could especially hear woojin’s voice that for once, wasn’t masked by the rest
by the end of the announcement of the top 11, everyone began to mingle with other participants
you hugged all your favourite people that made your 3 months in p101 so enjoyable and less torturous
turning to the side of the stage, you see woojin running up
your smile grew wider as he drew nearer
he attacked you with a hug one more time, squeezing you so tight that you couldn’t even breathe
you open your eyes to see the other members cheering loudly at your hug
you rolled your eyes and bear hugged woojin back
“find me later backstage,” woojin said, before parting ways
you continued mingling with the other participants, until the show ended
going backstage to your dressing room, which wasn’t that packed, you see woojin standing outside it with the other wanna one members
“come come! lets take a celebratory picture! woojin wants one with you!” seongwoo said, urging woojin to stand next to you
his face turned a bright shade of red
as he stood next to you, all the members started teasing you two
you had no idea what they had planned with such suspicious cocky looks on their face
as they began snapping pictures with a polaroid camera, you felt woojin moving closer and closer to you
you were so confused
but before you know it, woojin bends down to plant a kiss right on your right cheek
resulting in all the members squealing and poking fun of you two
you stared at the ground in awe as your ears burned red
“aww woojin has grown up!” jihoon exclaimed
you took a glance at woojin, only to see him scratching his neck and his face completely red, looking away in shame
“here here, your little token,” seongwoo said, cheekily handing you a polaroid picture with woojin kissing your cheek
“uh, i’m sorry about that y/n-”
you cut him off, planting a kiss on his cheek as well
and the same squeals of delight filled the hallway, for the hundredth time
he looked back down at you, smiling to reveal that adorable snaggletooth once more
i had to post once more because i was so tempted to!!
also its the weekend, so i decided to spare an hour just to write one for you guys since i haven’t posted in so long :(
hope you enjoy it!
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April 4th, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on April 4th, 2019, from 5PM - 7PM PDT. The chat focused on Kamikaze by Alan Tupper, Havana Nguyen, and Carrie Tupper; Edited by Rachelle Udell and D'Andrea Seabrook.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!
Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Kamikaze by lan Tupper, Havana Nguyen, and Carrie Tupper; Edited by Rachelle Udell and D'Andrea Seabrook~! (https://kamikazeanimated.com/comic/)
Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
my favorite scene so far is probably the huge long sequence that follows the bomb explosion and markesha is running away. i love just how real and down to earth that scene is. like markesha doesnt magically come to her destiny or just treat what happened is nbd after suddenly becoming a ninja. nope, shes runs, like a normal person would do regardless if they were a runner or not, and is pursued. everthing about this sequence really carried this tension. cause in this moment she was not some future superheroine. she was a young woman terrified for her life. and it just felt so relateable.
keii4ii
I have several favorite scenes. One of them is Markesha's confrontation with Franco. The intro to that scene is thick with tension; I love the juxtaposition with the radio/music and could see it play like a movie in my head! http://kamikazeanimated.com/comic/kamikaze/pg-2-gatekeeper/ Not to mention how it ends. It's the first time something works out right(ish) between Markesha and Orson. Due to the circumstances, the scene leaves a lot of distrust to be resolved, but it was nice to see that first step of working together. It struck a good balance of tension and a truce.
RebelVampire
another scene im particular to is that scene where markesha is standing on the rooftops debating whether she should work with orson or not. not only is it beautifully illustrated, but i really like the juxtaposition in the story. like showing her other opportunity leaving the city without her. cause once that caravan leaves, its really a no way out declaration. markesha is trapped whether she wants to or not.
i do love the franco scene for how it painted the world. cause in the opening sequence i was like, "come on this is the post apocalypse he seems the type to be packing a gun." and then boop, he pulled out a gun and i felt vindicated XD
but i just really appreciated how the character really acted in the worst way possible per expectation of the world
Carrie Tupper
I think this is the first time I've EVER heard any compliments toward Franco, period. xD
RebelVampire
i mean the dudes dead. so umm, no sense on spitting on his grave
Carrie Tupper
Fair enough, but I'm sure Markesha wouldn't mind.
RebelVampire
nobody should mind hes dead. especially the runner who originally was supposed to take the package. now theres a person who lucked the heck out.
Carrie Tupper
Ha, as Orson would say: "Indeed."
keii4ii
Also not exactly a scene, but one detail I really liked was the "fresh wild meat" store with the live rabbits. It's a nice nod to the rabbit... metaphor...? thingie, but I loved it for the little mundane worldbuilding bit it was.
Carrie Tupper
OMG YAY
I'm so glad you notices that Keii4ii!
noticed*
keii4ii
It helped that I saw such stores near me when I was growing up
Fried chicken places with live chickens in cages
Carrie Tupper
That whole bit was thrown is as a bit of a metaphoric way of saying, "Markesha's releasing the story into the world herself whether she realizes it or not."
RebelVampire
i appreciated too the subtle world building it did too. cause it both demonstrates in a small way how desperate everyone is for food while at the same time showing how theyve made everything work and are still able to operate somewhat the same as before
Carrie Tupper
I think it's interesting that y'all zeroed in on the tension/action bits. Most people tell me the parts they remember the most are those between Markesha and Toshi.
RebelVampire
i like seeing markesha and toshi interact, but at the same time theyre father and daughter. so at the end of the day theres probably gonna be love and hugs and theres kind of a safety net there where their relationship is concerned.
meanwhile everyone else is ready to put a bullet in markesha's head
minus like 3 people
keii4ii
I'm partial to child-parent conflicts so I've been more interested in Markesha's situation with her missing mom than with her dad.
RebelVampire
and one of those whose name is orson i dont trust
yeah i do like the tension between them regarding the mom. that definitely is a highlight since theyre both handled it so differently
keii4ii
Speaking of her mom.... that little problem they ran into with her DNA clearance thing (forgot what it's called/ what page it was on) is totally not suspicious at all, no sir.
RebelVampire
ill be more keen on their interactions later cause toshi was the one who really wanted markesha to take orson's job. but he also seems the most likely to go "wait shes doing what i didnt approve of that"
Carrie Tupper
Hahah "blacklisted bloodline"
RebelVampire
so that seems like a potential argument later
nah nobody did nothing at all
just a typo
never heard of the nin family
QUESTION 2. After avoiding it for a while, Markesha does agree to help Orson’s group. Do you think Markesha is finally settled on helping the group, or will she continue to panic and try to run for it? How do you think her first mission will go? Do you believe the first mission will help cement her motivations for helping Orson, or will it scare her away again? What do you think will happen when Markesha’s father finds out exactly what she’s doing for Orson? Further, do you think the Razors will figure out Orson covered for Markesha and was actually the one to deliver the bomb? If they do, what will they do to both Orson and Markesha? Finally, how do you think Markesha will mature and grow over the course of the story?
mathtans
I'll be here to comment shortly...
RebelVampire
hi math! take your time~!
Carrie Tupper
I think my personal fave scene is the one where Audrey and Orson butt heads in the 2nd episode. She's totally not down for this, thinks it's a bad idea, and I think it says a lot about Orson that he'll take that kind of talk around him. Like...he's not so iron fisted he won't hear someone drag his ideas for the desperate moves they are.
Hi, hi, Math!
keii4ii
Yeah, Orson never struck me as controlling, just really adamant
RebelVampire
orson is one of those characters where i dont know if i should love them or hate them. but like in the good tense way that keeps me on edge. hes this perfect blend of being a cool dude while at the same time kind of being a jerk.
mathtans
Only made it through the first two episodes, but of those, I think my fave scene is actually when Markesha rubs the rabbit talisman and leaves, and beat panel, and then Toshi does after she's gone. The sort of thing that you could have totally skipped over, but gave much more weight to his character early on, in my mind.(edited)
RebelVampire
yeah that was a beautiful pause
cause it really said so much about toshi in that moment
and just non verbally explained why he was so insistent she rub it
cause its more a thing for him and his heart
than it is for her
i want to believe that markesha's panicking is kind of done in the sense shes just gonna run forever. i think though in that first mission she's going to be moving forward on adrenaline and saying shit a lot to get through it. however, i think once orson is back he can explain things better, and that will cement in her desires more. that and i think shell see the opportunity as a way to improve toshi's life at the end and stick with it for that reason.
i 100% think when toshi finds out he wont be happy tho
and then theyll have that argument
where toshi is like how could you
and markesha is like "hey you pushed me into accepting his deal"
mathtans
Okay, more or less here, catching up on the start. I guess I went for the more traditional. Though the bit with the mother is kind of heartbreaking. Though at the same time inspirational what with how close Markesha's become with her dad. And I totally missed the metaphor of releasing the rabbits.
A couple runner-up scenes... right at the beginning, where the elevator opens and it's full of security guys by accident. I thought that was funny. Also, well played, setting up this guy as the main character and it's actually his team that are the key ones moving on.
Second runner up scene... welp, if you know me, you KNOW I'm shipping Kamikaze and Flare, so yeah.
Carrie Tupper
Yeah... I may or may not get a lot of people mad at me about Jackal...
Shipping already? Wow xD
mathtans
Mad at you? I thought it was clever. A way of showing no one's safe, in a way.
I go for all the yuri ships, hinted or not.
RebelVampire
i do miss jackal. the character well never really get to know. but nah, not mad. i mean this is the post apocalypse and you cant have post apocalypse without showing the world can be...unforgiving
plus it raises the stakes for orson
cause now everything is riding on markesha
but like
no pressure or anything there markesha
mathtans
As to Orson, here's a crazy theory. His "trial run" was actually to see if a bomb could be delivered fast enough to not explode in transit. He's in league with the bomber, presumably indirectly.
(Did we ever find out what that trial was about?)
Carrie Tupper
Hmmm, there's a flavor of that theory I haven't seen.
The trial run in the beginning?
mathtans
I prefer chocolate over vanilla. Right, that one, the one Markesha was 27 seconds late for.
Carrie Tupper
Yeah, there's a page where Link asks Orson how the "courier angle" went
RebelVampire
see, the way i feel about orson, i cant say no to that theory. orson is a shady dude even when im cheering for him.
Carrie Tupper
The idea there was that Orson was throwing a hail mary that a courier could be hired to do the job, but her parameters were a little high for untrained runners.
mathtans
But what was he couriering, eh? Secret bombs, maybe?
Rebel: It's true. The guy removed the evidence of his gun and everything.
Carrie Tupper
Orson's a professional, he's not perfect, but he's defintely been in the game for a loooong time.
mathtans
As to Rebel's questions, I think Markesha's instinct is to run. I was honestly inclined to smack her upside the head for disobeying her father the way she did, when he was making sense. Can kinda see her point of view, mind.
keii4ii
He knows his priorities. Gotta respect that even if I may not agree with him sometimes
Carrie Tupper
One of the hard realities Orson has to constantly deal with is the fact that he can't control everything in the outer city. Doing his jobs a lot easier when you can leverage everyone, but the chaos of Outer Trinity is almost a force of nature that he's just kinda...gotta make the best of.
mathtans
I think she's destined to grow though, from what we've seen in the special later storyline bits. (cough Shipping cough )
RebelVampire
i like that mix where orson cnt control everything yet gives off this attitude that sure he can, hes orson. gotta admire that confidence.
mathtans
Incidentally, real interesting format, what with giving some tidbits about the city or characters underneath the page. I didn't get a chance to read them all.
Carrie Tupper
Charisma seen from outer space
mathtans
Orson seems very sure of himself - and his coworkers. Probably why, as Carrie said, he can tolerate things like Audrey's challenges.
Handy trait given the position he's in.
RebelVampire
tbf its not like audrey's points are invalid anyway. shes making good points even if she chooses to express them very aggressively.
though between the three i like link the best cause hes a breathe of fresh air who brings sunshine and comedy to the bleak and serious world.
mathtans
She is. Though given she seems to be the one who needs to activate the kill switch, she's got a more personal stake.
Link spies on young girls though.
Carrie Tupper
That's a unique viewpoint, Rebel! We don't have many Link fans.
Are there any moments in particular you like with Link?
mathtans
If I had to pick a favourite character, it might be Toshi. Not just because he's a writer, but because he's doing his best under crazy circumstances. And doesn't let his blindness stop him. (Also, my God, all the pathos for the issue with his wife.)
biab, little one's fussing.
RebelVampire
i dont know whether to applaud toshi's dedication to his wife or not. cause i mean loyalty is an admirable quality, but theres also a point i agree with markesha and its time to smack him into realizing she probably isnt coming back.
as for favorite link moments, probably the scenes at markesha's house. especially where he critiques audrey for how strong shes coming on...and then proceeds to come on very strong. besides being funny, i think its a good moment that shows he does basically just kind of his own moral compass for better or for worse.
but i also really liked the dialogue sequence between him and audrey that markesha could here
cause it really showed the vulnerability everyone is in atm
QUESTION 3. Despite having to work for Orson, there are many questions surrounding Orson’s work. Who exactly are Audrey and Link, and how do you think they wound up working with Orson? Who exactly is Orson? What are Orson’s personal motivations for participating in the project? For that matter, why is Orson so hated and blamed for what happened to the Cornerstone family? What do you think happened to the Cornerstone family exactly, and how might it tie in to the story? Also, who is Orson’s boss? What are they trying to accomplish as far as changing the balance of power goes? How are they trying to accomplish it? Lastly, what do you think was in the canister seen at the beginning of the comic?
ShaRose49
Idk what to think about Orson, I can’t tell if he’s good or bad. Leaning more towards good though. My fav thing about this is that it looks like an animated series and the father-daughter relationship is a pretty good one and I feel like I don’t see that very often so kudos to you guys for that
Carrie Tupper
Thanks @ShaRose49
ShaRose49
No prob!
mathtans
Back briefly. I feel like Toshi not wanting to leave isn't simply due to his wife though. When you're blind, and living in a place, you kinda know where everything is. Having to leave would suuuck.
ShaRose49
It’s inspiring to me cause I’d like to be involved in animation as well someday
@mathtans I agree
RebelVampire
but not wanting to leave when your daughter is being hunted by the local gang is borderline insanity XD
ShaRose49
Oh yeah
mathtans
(I'm not at the bit where Link/Audrey go to Markesha yet, so no comment on that.)
Except dude was providing an alternative to that. Just saying.
Carrie Tupper
@mathtans You're quite right. It's complicated for Toshi. There's most DEFINITELY an edge of "I won't leave her," but there's also the complications of leaving in both a mental and physical way. He's lived there forever, had memories built with his family, and leaving means he'd have to re-learn layouts all over again. That can be stressful and painful for someone who can't see.
mathtans
As to the latest question, maybe Orson's boss is one of those people vying to fill the vacant seat at the council chambers.
RebelVampire
but toshi wouldnt even consider leaving till markesha super forced his hand. and to me thats the point where it reaches obsession cause hes willing to trust is some rando stranger and risk his daughters safety just on the .000001% chance his wife is coming back and because eww change. and while i empathize with toshi, that is a moment where i felt hes just being a bad dad. cause his own pain is more important than the life of his daughter
mathtans
And as to the canister, I'd say it had seeds or something, but it was apparently super heavy without the suit, so that doesn't jibe.
Rebel: Fair point about the stranger trust thing. But there were some logical arguments in there too. I guess there's layers of opinion.
biab again
keii4ii
I like Orson. He seems like he genuinely believes what he's doing is the best option for many in a crappy world, and accepts the shady aspects of it as a necessary price. There's a lot about him that's yet to be revealed, so maybe I won't agree with his endgame, but I still see an inherent value in that... belief in a non-self-centered goal.
ShaRose49
@Respheal yeah he’s definitely not perfect
Got some issues
RebelVampire
i definitely think hes a good guy and has a non-self centered goal. that being said, bending the rules can...corrupt your moral compass. so if at the end hes an antagonist, i would not be surprised
also wrong tag there @ShaRose49
XD
ShaRose49
Whoops!!
I musta slipped
My bad
Respheal
o_o
lol, s'ok
ShaRose49
Oh heeey, we were just talking about you!
Carrie Tupper
xD
ShaRose49
Accidentally!!
RebelVampire
seeds would make the most sense there where the cannister is concerned. as for the heaviness, well that couldve been more from the cannister itself than whats in the cannister.
keii4ii
I am very sorry because this is a terrible, terrible idea, but "if at the end he's an antagonist" just made me imagine him becoming a Final Boss a la that nanomachine boss from the Metal Gear Solid series.
Carrie Tupper
Oof. I gotta keep my mouth shut here, but y'all got some interesting ideas about Orson. xD
RebelVampire
maybe whats in the cannister are the secrets to weather control cause you never have to worry about the crops again if you can control the weather
mathtans
Back, mostly. That's a good take on Orson, keii4ii.
Incidentally, I notice we're only, like, 15 years from the "end of the world" as far as the story chronology seems to go. Yikes?
Carrie Tupper
15?
RebelVampire
its okay keii i pictured him in about 20 different video game boss forms when i said that XD
keii4ii
omg
Carrie Tupper
Just put glasses and a half vest on EVERY boss xD
mathtans
The tag line says "what happens when the world's first superheroine shows up two hundred years after the end of the world"... and I thought I saw a date marker of, like, 2227 somewhere.
(Someone's birth year? Mirage? I dunno.)
Carrie Tupper
Year is 2235
2235 - 200 years is 2035
mathtans
Okay, so wasn't totally imagining it. That means 200 years ago was, like, shortly in our future.
Carrie Tupper
Da
mathtans
We're in trouble.
Carrie Tupper
....Da
mathtans
Da da da daaaaa.
RebelVampire
tbf this is not the worst of post apocalypses
i mean there is some semblance of order
and cities
mathtans
There's still bureauocratic jerks too. That whole "you're blacklisted but hey, keep applying and giving us money" shakedown annoyed me. In the good way of clever writing because I can see it happening and they're jerks.
RebelVampire
yeah i really like in general political bs hasnt gone away. cause thats very true to life.
mathtans
Related, kudos on establishing that Logan guy in the council as a total waste of oxygen within, like, two panels (as he went off about girls asking for it). Get bent.
Carrie Tupper
Logan is basically every jerk I've ever known brought to life.
It's cathartic in a way.
RebelVampire
im gonna take a stab in the dark at orson's motivations. i think the cornerstones essentially got murdered in a mysterious raid that im sure no other high ranking family had anything to do with. and that for better or for worse, orson got blamed because someone always needs to be blamed. and orson blames himself but he also recognizes how the system is flawed. so he wants to change the power dynamics by changing hte food system or something. cause food does seem to be the controlling factor here.
mathtans
It's nice to have a clear villain character somewhere. The kind that's too moronic to actually take over the world though.
RebelVampire
maybe thats what logan wants you to think. that hes too dumb to do anything. when really he is the shadow puppet master
Carrie Tupper
Hmmm! All interesting ideas
mathtans
Rebel: That's a good theory. Maybe being the scapegoat also twisted his morals a bit, he figured I might as well do some of the shadier things like killing people.
Rebel: Logan could be a puppet, that's for sure. But not a master, unless the real master wants him to think so.
RebelVampire
you know who i dont trust? lionness heritage. if i had to pick anybody who ruined the cornerstones, itd be her.
Carrie Tupper
Oh? How come?
mathtans
Rebel: The fact that the world ended with "the Withering" implies to me that food is definitely a key element.
Carrie Tupper
Quite right, @mathtans
mathtans
Hm, don't think I've got to the lionness yet.
Carrie Tupper
She's a trip.
RebelVampire
because she seems smart enough to know how to politics and is so far the one most interested in changing the power structure. and just the way she offered the crop things in a backhanded blackmail way makes her rub me in all the wrong ways. like, she kind of gives me the same impression orson does. where shes doing good while also being shady af. but in her case her motives are way more self-interested, so the self-interested plus the shady are a dangerous combonation(edited)
Carrie Tupper
Makes sense.
RebelVampire
tbh i would not be surprised if she was orson's boss, but actually fooled orson into thinking she wanted to do good things for everyone.
mathtans
Oooh, interesting theory.
Carrie Tupper
She's not a person to trifle with
Constance will have to be careful.
RebelVampire
but i do like constance. i hope she and markesha meet and become the ultimate duo. the one who politics and the one who works in the shadows.
QUESTION 4. Besides the major plot points, there are quite a number of politics and world issues about. Who are the Outlanders, and why are they disliked? Assuming Markesha’s mother was an Outlander, how did she wind up with Markesha’s father? What do you think ultimately happened to Markesha’s mother? Do you think Markesha and her father will find out during the story? How might it affect them? Less personally tied to Markesha is what’s going on in Halo. Do you think Orson will get out of his captivity? If so, how will it come about? Will Lionness Wright take Cornerstone’s seat High House seat? What is Lionness’ Heritage interest in Lionness Wright taking it? At last, do you think there is a chance one of the Cornerstone’s lived?
Carrie Tupper
@mathtans I have to admit I hope you'll comment through the next bit of story. The team and I would very much enjoy seeing yours or anyone else's reactions in realtime
mathtans
(Is there more Kamikaze and Flare? )
Carrie Tupper
(It's coming I promise, but it'll be a bit!)
All very good questions you've posed @RebelVampire
RebelVampire
im hoping we get to learn more about the outlanders. cause i mean namewise, obviously they are ppl who live outside the city. but at the same time, they mention that yellow eyes are a trait. and you dont have a shared trait if youre just ppl outside the walls.
mathtans
I admit, I'm real bad with geography in real life. It's worse in fantasy novels and comics for me. I remember there were three gates. That's... kind of all I got.
Oh yeah, the eyes. Though not all Outlanders.
RebelVampire
i didnt study the geography that hard this time, admittedly.
maybe toshi met his wife via some writing work? like doing some journalistic investigation on the lives of outlanders
mathtans
Started looking at Episode 3. Clever way of having the storm info playing in the background. Reminds me of how Toshi was looking at the news to give us backstory in an earlier bit.
Carrie Tupper
The geography of the city is pretty basic, but for reference...
RebelVampire
oh thats nice they have a river
very smart
Carrie Tupper
For reference Markesha's mom = Cassie
mathtans
Markesha really likes jumping to conclusions, doesn't she. Also, selective memory.
RebelVampire
ok cassie. i knew shed been named but i couldnt remember it
Carrie Tupper
Hey many she just got kinda blown up give her a break xD
RebelVampire
to be fair markesha is i think 19? thats basically still a kid and that is kid-like behavior
Carrie Tupper
Yep, in the scene with Rio she said she turned 20 in a week.
Happy birthday~ Markesha
mathtans
Oh, I'm not faulting it. Just, perhaps especially as a teacher, I roll my eyes.
Carrie Tupper
One of the things I have to catch myself in a lot when reading anything is the memory of the character doesn't always match our own, especially if said character wasn't present at or had certain information communicated to them
mathtans
Also kind of impressive how every page has it's own title. That's attention to detail. (I do it, but that's only because they're all 4-panels.)
Carrie: Truth.
RebelVampire
maybe cassie was involved in some espionage. like maybe she married toshi just to have a cover so she could spy for outlanders. and then when her mission was done she left. or ya know, was viciously murdered. which i would be amazingly surprised if she was alive. i dont buy into the characters' hopes. i feel shes just been gone too long for it to have been anything else.
Carrie Tupper
lol, Alan and I beat our heads against the wall EVERY WEEK to make sure we haven't reused those titles. xD
mathtans
biab, little one fussing.
Carrie Tupper
Cassie's fate is at this point unknown to everyone, but I definitely know her fate and do my best to sprinkle it in
In fact there's a lot of things I sprinkle in through the series. Like the fact Julain shows up WAAAAAY before book 3.
RebelVampire
interesting
Carrie Tupper
https://i0.wp.com/kamikazeanimated.com/comic/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/pg_05.jpg?w=900
mathtans
Back. Yeah, I have a text file of titles. If I think of one I'm not sure of, I simply do a search.
RebelVampire
omg thats such a sneaky appearance too
mathtans
Cassie was actually a time traveller!
Carrie Tupper
hahaha xD
RebelVampire
but also makes me picture on one page somewhere theres a hidden newspaper article that readers "many year long cold case of murdered woman in alley still not solved! read the story on page 4!"
mathtans
Damn. Nice foreshadow.
Carrie Tupper
Mmmmmaaaybe
One of my goals when writing this is to leave little things for return readers to find and enjoy
that way when they re-read they notice new things, and the experience is fresh in a different way
RebelVampire
thats always a good thing to have. especially when it things like that where you smack yourself in the forehead cause you didnt realize a character had already appeared before
mathtans
Yeah, that's awesome.
RebelVampire
off topic to that but like http://kamikazeanimated.com/comic/kamikaze/pg-1-moving-day/ how can anybody not like link after looking at this page? look at those beautiful and jovial expressions minus the adorable pout
Carrie Tupper
Orson's little sneer at the tablet being waved in his face always makes me smile
mathtans
Interesting about a panic switch, didn't expect that arrest. They didn't even read his rights.
Carrie Tupper
...y'all have a really positive view of the Trinity justice system
mathtans
I live in hope. The romantic in me.
RebelVampire
yeah i think thats math there. im even surprised they didnt just gun them down and go "whoops they slipped into my bullets"
mika
oh we're talking about something that i do not know
mathtans
Markesha staying in one place for calibration? Yeah, good luck with that.
Rebel: Point.
Carrie Tupper
Hiya mika!
RebelVampire
this is the channel for our thursday book club chat. were talking about kamikaze http://kamikazeanimated.com/comic/ @mika
especially orson. i for sure orson would get shot cause man is there a lot of hate for orson.
so really insofar
their treatment has been better than i expected
Carrie Tupper
That's fair
mika
oooo
mathtans
Orson looks really different without his glasses.
Carrie Tupper
I guess ultimately the HSF knows if they do anything to hurt Orson they'llhave to answer to the High House LEOs and...well
mathtans
He's got some pull still.
Carrie Tupper
I'm not sure who I'd want to answer to less in that situation
Fun note: The shot where we see the other inmates via Orson's view is directly related to how blurry people look w/o my glasses on.
mathtans
Okay, one last theory... the canister at the start held some of the "Withering" disease in storage, that people were studying. They want it in order to create a vaccine/cure, but others are fine with the world the way it is.
I am very with you on that. My prescription is high.
mika
im going to try reading it! im always looking for more webcomics to snatch
Carrie Tupper
I hope you'll enjoy it @mika and feel free to comment on the pages! The team loves chatting with our readers
mathtans
(Made it to the end of Act 1 atleast.)
Carrie Tupper
haha xD
mika
oof im guilty of not commenting enough
Carrie Tupper
Act 2 is insanely long, so I'm sure it won't take any time for you
RebelVampire
i really loved that blurry shot. as a glasses wearer, that is a detail so many comics do not capture. that yeah, without glasses, ppl cant bloody see that well.
Carrie Tupper
Yep. I also needed to establish that for later shenanigans
mathtans
(I'm actually a pretty slow reader. I'm also bad at keeping up with things. Even my own websites.)
RebelVampire
and the cannister containing a copy of the disease is interesting, math. although sounds extremely dangerous. like...jackal did not treat that cannister with enough care if thats whats in it XD
mathtans
I wonder if we'll get much from Toshi's point of view then. Could save the artist some time.
Carrie Tupper
omg right?
I have thought about having a dream sequence for Toshi
where all wee see are the 'sounds' he hears
mathtans
Jackal seemed pretty sure of himself and not inclined to listen to advice though.
(I wonder if that was a code name, like "Rabbit"?)
Carrie Tupper
It was.
mathtans
Well played.
Carrie Tupper
If you look at the "list of affiliations" on Orson's file that we did, you may find him hidden in the list
mathtans
Good job all around, as far as final words go. The amount of worldbuilding behind the scenes is damn impressive, you get the impression that it's only the tip of the iceberg being shown.
RebelVampire
that would definitely be an interesting experience. to see the world as toshi sees it, metaphorically speaking.
mathtans
(I'm baffled about how it could have been goofy in the conception, it's pretty serious now, I think.)
RebelVampire
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