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250214 [💌] Hyunjin films more content with Raina

I'm filming with Raina unnie today ㅎㅎ Hot-Item Lucky Happy ㅎㅎ

Translation by: litell_johnn / photo

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hiii i wanted to thank you for making this blog cuz my country banned twitter recently so i had no way to see the xikers update accs i followed 😭😭 i was so sad when i realized i wouldn't see their selcas anymore but now i can !!! seriously ur a godsend

oh my god that sucks im so sorry 🥹 🥹 that's another one of the reasons i try to stay on top of this account because once that happened i knew it would shut a lot of kpop fans from updates about their groups so im happy to help with what i can

[perception-1111]

“The only truly affluent are those who do not want more than they have.”

—Erich Fromm

[honeyhotteoks]

yunho's fromm messages this morning.......... (and some extended thoughts on this man and his very obvious dom vibes, we've got a brand here at honeyhotteoks and i need to talk about it again before i die)

the messages in question:

🐶: yes, yes, you're such a greedy one (a little selfish one) 🐶: be mine, you're mine. 🐶: yes, yes, i'm yours.

transl credit to @/jyhcomfort on twt, i know there's a few alternate translations floating around that say "i'm greedy" or "i'm a greedy one" / one of my friends said via context it makes more sense to be "i'm greedy" but for delulu purposes..... either way..... my feelings are the same under the cut

cw: nsfw discussions about dom/sub dynamics and various connected kinks. as always, i am not being so delulu about this that i actually think i know him. this is all fun and speculation and at this point he's just my muse for the romance novel version of him. okay.....

i tweeted the below the other day (video link here) but like seriously he just keeps proving me right and i have thoughts i gotta get off my chest before i combust.

so i've just been thinking about this whole thing since someone on twitter made a little joke about him being a bitchless kpop idol, which like... i know people got upset, but i'm sure that was just a joke, and that's not really what this is about i've been seriously cooking on the duality of this man for the past few days and have things to say.

first of all...... i've talked about this a million times, but when i say this man is a dom what i mean is that he has the potential for all this stuff, i have no idea what he's actually doing in his private life. he could literally be waiting for marriage for all i know, but i do think you can tell in someone's personality who would kind of be good at something 'naturally' if they got into it / went that direction.

something yunho's been doing a lot recently is showing more of himself physically / showing more skin / being a little more suggestive overtly in his content which is something pretty new for him. he's always been hot and has been sexy on stage, but as far as his personal content, this is pretty new for him. this to me is classic like.... he's gained confidence in the past few years, gotten into his mid twenties where you start to get a little more self assured with your own body or expressions of sexuality, etc. BUT the way that he's sharing this content i think is interesting and indicates to me that he knows what kind of reaction this is going to get from his fans, and he enjoys it.

he's been burying sexier pictures within his ig albums as not the first picture, with the first one being a little cute or just regular idol style pics. prime examples below --

in both of these cases, these are the "sexy shot" but he puts them in the middle of the albums. then when fans freak out or ask him about it on live/fromm his responses are usually something along the lines of "ohhh it wasn't too much was it? ah, no ofc i'll keep it just to that" etc. it would not surprise me in the least if he enjoyed the thought that we're all losing our shit when we swipe to these pics / our reactions online after not only give him a bunch of compliments but shows how riled up we are. that is CLASSIC dom behavior.

in a sexual context, this might look something like..... a dom casually touching or implying sex to their submissive over the course of a day but not really acknowledging it / playing off their submissive's reactions as cute/funny or in a meaner context, ignoring it all together. at the end of all that teasing though is the dom in control and verbally messing with their sub while finally, finally delivering the pleasure they were hinting at. this is something i am so positive yunho would excel at with the right partner.

that combined with the way he talks to hotteoks in fromm really gives the impression that he knows they enjoy being teased, and i truly don't think he would act like that if he didn't like it. he's been in the idol game long enough, if he wanted to set different boundaries or speak to his fans differently, he absolutely could. meanwhile he's out here playing straight into the delulu trends with birthday lockets and wedding flowers and boyfriend-y pics all the time on ig. not to mention the zayn song.... like he knows what he's doing.

he often teases hotteoks about being so flustered over him, plays into how 'jealous' he can be, and overall just leans in hard to d/s dynamics in a way that tells me it's quite natural for him. even just how often he says things like 'you're mine' / 'i'm yours' / 'you know you're mine right?' / 'yes you belong to me' etc. in his fromms just reads completely as a dominant establishing and reinforcing those ownership dynamics.

when it comes to other parts of his personality, i've talked about that at length in other posts (eye contact, natural leadership, body language, active listening, etc.) but i've really noticed a shift in him recently and can't get it off my mind.

on top of that, there have been a few moments on stage or with other members lately that really ring dominance. i'm very specifically thinking of the way he interacts with mingi and wooyoung, which i've written about before, but...... he's consistently holding eye contact with them lately, teasing them in ways that are platonic yes, but also just part of that natural part of him that wants to mess with someone who will break. like.... did yunho have to hold wooyoung's jaw while they were kneeling during halazia? probably not, but he did it. and the smile afterwards when wooyoung got a little flustered was clear satisfaction with the reaction he got.

generally i think there's an impression that some people have that because yunho's so "nice" or so goofy/dorky/sweet/thoughtful/bashful etc., that means he doesn't have as much rizz or like wouldn't be into dynamics like this or harder kinks. i have to say..... that to me always reads like inexperience, with men potentially, maybe sex, and/or these dynamics in particular. in my experience, it's often the sweet guys who can switch it up in bed, and i would even say they often make better/safer doms because they are caring/considerate/attentive to their partner's comfort and pleasure, not just their own or if they're being perceived as sexy. it's not a hard rule of course, everyone's different, but i'm just saying, yunho being a nice guy doesn't mean he couldn't or wouldn't enjoy teasing the fuck out of his partner.

all of this is to say........................ if hasn't figured out his dom potential yet, i sincerely hope he does because i think it's such an obvious fit for him.

[atzjieun]

Song Ji-eun (Kor: 송지은), known mononymously as Jieun, is a fictional Korean singer-songwriter. She made her debut on October 24, 2018 as a member of kpop group ATEEZ under KQ Entertainment as their main dancer, lead vocalist and lead rapper.

BACKSTAGE

admin | talks | shut up lai | asks

THE REAL

profile | visuals | trivia

iceberg | dorm tour | jiwoo playlist

— connections

family | in ateez | outside of ateez | dating history

jihong | seongji | yunji | shyz | jisan | ssongz | jiwoo | jiho

— messages

with sunwoo | during hiatus

THE DREAM

hair through the eras | part two

photocards | aniteez mascot

— eras

all to zero | zero to one | one to all | all to action | action to answer | fever pt.1 | fever pt.2 | fever pt.3 | fever epilogue | ep.1 movement | from the witness | ep.2 outlaw | ep.fin will | golden hour pt.1 | golden hour pt.2

— covers

mamma mia |

— music

mixtape: sophie

THE STORY

all written works

scenarios | variety content

THE WORLD

— social media

twt posts | insta posts | fromm

atinytwt | livestreams | edits

— articles

debut confirmation | hiatus announcement | king of masked singer |artist of the month

[saintmelangell]

book recommendations? i’ve finally got my attention span back after deleting instagram and tiktok off my phone for lent and i want to read!

hello! im so sorry i took so long to respond to this! since its lent, i will recommend both fiction and religious work (i hope that's okay!) i've tried to choose short work that i personally really enjoy and turn to often, and an asterisk * marks a book that has some sexual content if you're trying to avoid that during lent

the long loneliness by dorothy day

waiting for god by simone weil

revelations of divine love by julian of norwich

the imitation of christ by thomas a kempis

the art of loving by erich fromm

jacob's room by virginia woolf

blue of noon by georges bataille*

rebecca by daphne du maurier*

rest and be thankful by emma glass

the edible woman by margaret atwood

the ravishing of lol stein by margueurite duras*

fragile animals by genevieve jagger*

the hour of the star by clarice lispector

notes from the underground by fyodor dostoevsky

salt slow by julia armfield*

[aicosu]

FUCK YESSSS FUCKKK YES!!!!!! 

#24 JUST SAY IT JELLSAAAAAA ARTGHHHAHAHNSNNEMWMEMWJAJHAJAHAHHAHA

On July 1st, the lonely house at the top of the mountain was finally sold.

— In which Jack(son) Overland tries his best to befriend his neighbor, one woodworking project at a time. { neighbors-to-lovers!fic, modern-mountain-living!au }

Prompt from @aicosu: Three-word sentences: "Just say it."

ao3 ❆

[dlstmxkakwldrlarchive]

240826 ONEW Fromm Channel Update

ONEW won't promote Beat Drum in Music Shows!

Hello.

This is Griffin Entertainment. First of all, I would like to sincerely thank you all for your generous love and support to Onew. About the activities for Onew's 3rd mini album [FLOW], which will be released on September 3rd:

As a result of careful discussion with the artist about the direction of the 3rd mini album [FLOW], there will be no music broadcast promotion to show a higher performance in the future. We will meet you in Korea and Japan with "2024 ONEW FAN CONCERT 'HOLA!' and perform new songs from the 3rd mini album [FLOW], we are preparing to show you better music and a variety of performances, so please look forward to it.

We are well aware of the interest and expectations of many people, including JJINGGU who loves our artist more than anyone else, during the promotion of their 3rd mini album [FLOW] that will be released after a long wait.

Even though we can't meet you in person through music broadcasts, We will do our best to communicate with you through various contents and activities.

We will fully support our artist to be active on a wider stage, so please continue to give us warm support and love. Thank you.

[f1-disaster-bi]

I painted my whole annoyingly weirdly t-shaped hallway i had the rest of the bottle of wine fromm yesterday and i'm in bed already so i probably fall asleep in about 30 seconds but i quickly read of the new prompt suggestions and this one jumper straight at me 💖

“huh, you know when you’re not scowling at me your eyes look a little more blue than green.”

For the au with firefighter danny and nutze lando? I can't think of the name right now 🤣 danny would definitely try tí charm lando even though landos abgry ith him💖

-💖

"Patient in bed four for you, Lan"

George's voice pulled Lando from the paperwork he was finishing at the nurses station. His friend just winked at him as he looked up to question him and then he was gone, disappearing the curtains for bed six and leaving Lando to gather himself.

He saved his report before exiting it, locking the computer before he started moving. It was muscle memory at this point to wash and sanitize his hands before pulling on a new pair of gloves, and making his way to bed four.

"Hi there, my name is Lando and I'll be your nu-", the words died on his lips as he caught sight of who was sprawled out in bed four, "I thought I told you to stop coming here"

Despite the nasty cut above his eyebrow, Daniel managed to look offended by Lando's words. He even brought his hand up to his chest and did a little fake gasp as he smiled at Lando.

"Is that any way for a nurse to talk to a patient, Nurse Norris?", Daniel teased, wincing when he moved his eyebrows.

"You're not a patient. You are an annoyance", Lando tried to keep his scowl on his face as he moved to inspect Daniel's injury but it was impossible. He could alreay feel the smile on his face that he would absolutely deny later to George, "Okay, looks like this

doesn't need stitches, just some glue and some cleaning. How did it even happen? Did Verstappen clear you of a concussion?"

"Yep, and so did Russell when I was admitted. We were treating an old woman and she got spooked. She caught me up the head with her crutch", Daniel admitted softly, eyes fixed on Lando as he gathered the supplies he need to sterilize Daniel's wound and glue it shut, "She was so upset afterwards that I ended up apologising to her. She's here somewhere, sweet old gal even if she had a mean aim with a cane"

Lando couldn't help the laugh that escaped him. It was really just a little giggle. An unprofessional one for sure, but the image of Daniel, the big bad firefighter and paramedic, apologising to a little old woman while bleeding was one that tickled something in him. It was just so bizzare that Lando couldn't help but let out a strangled laugh as he tried to clue the wound so he could glue it.

Daniel didn't seem to mind his laughter as he looked at Lando. His warm brown eyes were almost lit up with his own amusement. He didn't laugh. No, Daniel stayed deadly still, letting Lando work, but there was a pleased curve to his smile that made Lando want.

"Sorry about that", Lando cleared his throat after a moment before turning to dig through his kit for the wound glue, "And about this, it might hurt a little"

"I'm good, go for it", Daniel smiled at him, perfectly content and never flinching as Lando applied the wound glue carefully, layer by layer until he was finished, holding the wound together for another few moments to ensure it had closed.

"Any other injuries? I know you firefighters like to hide them and run back out there thinking you're invincible", Lando asked carefully, teasing a little as he examined the rest of Daniel's face carefully.

Daniel didn't reply for a moment. He just stared at Lando, watching him with this soft look on his face that Lando couldn't quiet figure out before he took him completely by surprise.

"You know, when you're not scowling at me, your eyes look a little more blue than green", Daniel muttered softly, making Lando pause after he applied the bandage over the wound.

He could feel the blush creeping up his cheeks even as he tried to fight it as he leaned back a little.

"Are you sure you don't have a concussion or something?", Lando joked, unable to do anything else with the feelings that were rising within him and urging him to do something stupid like kiss the man.

"Or something", Daniel muttered with a knowing smile as Lando peeled off his gloves.

He was going to say something to break the tension between them when the curtains parted and Daniel's work partner, Max, stuck his head through.

"There you are. Cap sent me to bring you home", Max grinned at them before he turned to Lando, "Is he all in one piece?"

Lando just nodded, standing up to let Max take his place at Daniel's side as Daniel seemed to sink into the bed a little with a disapointment that Lando couldn't figure out.

"He's all good", Lando replied lightly, "I'll start his discharge paperwork. I'm sure I don't need to run over wound care with you"

Max waved him off before Daniel could say anything, and Lando, Lando took that as his queue to leave, ignoring the look George gave him as he quickly made his way back to the nurses station to start the paperwork.

[transformers-mosaic]

Transformers: Beast Wars - Second Chances - Page 17

Originally posted on February 2nd, 2011

Story - Mike Priest Pencils - Ryan Miller Inks - Jake Isenberg Colours - Ray Fromme Letters - HdE

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wada sez: See below for Mike Priest’s original script, titled “Lost and Found”.

Beast Wars: Second Chances- Page 17

“Lost and Found”

By Mike Priest

(FIRST PANEL- Starscream’s ghost/spark has phased through the Ark’s hull and is now hovering in a dim hallway.  “Emergency” red lights that line the walls appear to be blinking, indicating something is happening somewhere in the Ark.)

STARSCREAM: (Text box) Hmmm, now if I recall correctly…

(SECOND PANEL- Starscream ghost/spark “zooms” down the hallway and around a corner, leaving a streaking trail behind it.)

(THIRD PANEL- Starscream’s ghost emerges from a wall, half-phased through it.  His facial expression gives the self-satisfied impression of “success!” when he sees the contents of the room.)

STARSCREAM: (Text box) Ah-HA!  I knew I left that old thing lying around here somewhere…

(FOURTH PANEL- The Ark’s computer room, where Tarantulas’s image is on virtually every monitor.)

TARANTULAS: Security overridden.  Preparing to initialize self-destruct sequence.  Even beyond death, I will see my ultimate goal realized!  I will --

(FIFTH PANEL- Tarantulas’s computerized expression suddenly turns to shock as he notices someone enter the room.)

TARANTULAS: No.  You’re not supposed to be online!  That’s impossible!

(SIXTH PANEL- Large pay-off panel of STARSCREAM, in his original body, standing in the room with his hands on his hips, eyes narrowed and smirking his classic smirk.)

STARSCREAM: Wanna bet?

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SH 💫 [240606] fromm Chat

[dailyanarchistposts]

A.2.6 Why is solidarity important to anarchists?

Solidarity, or mutual aid, is a key idea of anarchism. It is the link between the individual and society, the means by which individuals can work together to meet their common interests in an environment that supports and nurtures both liberty and equality. For anarchists, mutual aid is a fundamental feature of human life, a source of both strength and happiness and a fundamental requirement for a fully human existence.

Erich Fromm, noted psychologist and socialist humanist, points out that the “human desire to experience union with others is rooted in the specific conditions of existence that characterise the human species and is one of the strongest motivations of human behaviour.” [To Be or To Have, p.107]

Therefore anarchists consider the desire to form “unions” (to use Max Stirner’s term) with other people to be a natural need. These unions, or associations, must be based on equality and individuality in order to be fully satisfying to those who join them — i.e. they must be organised in an anarchist manner, i.e. voluntary, decentralised, and non-hierarchical.

Solidarity — co-operation between individuals — is necessary for life and is far from a denial of liberty. Solidarity, observed Errico Malatesta, “is the only environment in which Man can express his personality and achieve his optimum development and enjoy the greatest possible wellbeing.” This “coming together of individuals for the wellbeing of all, and of all for the wellbeing of each,” results in “the freedom of each not being limited by, but complemented — indeed finding the necessary raison d’etre in — the freedom of others.” [Anarchy, p. 29] In other words, solidarity and co-operation means treating each other as equals, refusing to treat others as means to an end and creating relationships which support freedom for all rather than a few dominating the many. Emma Goldman reiterated this theme, noting “what wonderful results this unique force of man’s individuality has achieved when strengthened by co-operation with other individualities . .. co-operation — as opposed to internecine strife and struggle — has worked for the survival and evolution of the species… . only mutual aid and voluntary co-operation … can create the basis for a free individual and associational life.” [Red Emma Speaks, p. 118]

Solidarity means associating together as equals in order to satisfy our common interests and needs. Forms of association not based on solidarity (i.e. those based on inequality) will crush the individuality of those subjected to them. As Ret Marut points out, liberty needs solidarity, the recognition of common interests:

“The most noble, pure and true love of mankind is the love of oneself. I want to be free! I hope to be happy! I want to appreciate all the beauties of the world. But my freedom is secured only when all other people around me are free. I can only be happy when all other people around me are happy. I can only be joyful when all the people I see and meet look at the world with joy-filled eyes. And only then can I eat my fill with pure enjoyment when I have the secure knowledge that other people, too, can eat their fill as I do. And for that reason it is a question of my own contentment, only of my own self, when I rebel against every danger which threatens my freedom and my happiness…” [Ret Marut (a.k.a. B. Traven), The BrickBurner magazine quoted by Karl S. Guthke, B. Traven: The life behind the legends, pp. 133–4]

To practice solidarity means that we recognise, as in the slogan of Industrial Workers of the World, that “an injury to one is an injury to all.” Solidarity, therefore, is the means to protect individuality and liberty and so is an expression of self-interest. As Alfie Kohn points out:

“when we think about co-operation… we tend to associate the concept with fuzzy-minded idealism… This may result from confusing co-operation with altruism… Structural co-operation defies the usual egoism/altruism dichotomy. It sets things up so that by helping you I am helping myself at the same time. Even if my motive initially may have been selfish, our fates now are linked. We sink or swim together. Co-operation is a shrewd and highly successful strategy — a pragmatic choice that gets things done at work and at school even more effectively than competition does… There is also good evidence that co-operation is more conductive to psychological health and to liking one another.” [No Contest: The Case Against Competition, p. 7]

And, within a hierarchical society, solidarity is important not only because of the satisfaction it gives us, but also because it is necessary to resist those in power. Malatesta’s words are relevant here:

“the oppressed masses who have never completely resigned themselves to oppress and poverty, and who … show themselves thirsting for justice, freedom and wellbeing, are beginning to understand that they will not be able to achieve their emancipation except by union and solidarity with all the oppressed, with the exploited everywhere in the world.” [Anarchy, p. 33]

By standing together, we can increase our strength and get what we want. Eventually, by organising into groups, we can start to manage our own collective affairs together and so replace the boss once and for all. ”Unions will… multiply the individual’s means and secure his assailed property.” [Max Stirner, The Ego and Its Own, p. 258] By acting in solidarity, we can also replace the current system with one more to our liking: “in union there is strength.” [Alexander Berkman, What is Anarchism?, p. 74]

Solidarity is thus the means by which we can obtain and ensure our own freedom. We agree to work together so that we will not have to work for another. By agreeing to share with each other we increase our options so that we may enjoy more, not less. Mutual aid is in my self-interest — that is, I see that it is to my advantage to reach agreements with others based on mutual respect and social equality; for if I dominate someone, this means that the conditions exist which allow domination, and so in all probability I too will be dominated in turn.

As Max Stirner saw, solidarity is the means by which we ensure that our liberty is strengthened and defended from those in power who want to rule us: “Do you yourself count for nothing then?”, he asks. “Are you bound to let anyone do anything he wants to you? Defend yourself and no one will touch you. If millions of people are behind you, supporting you, then you are a formidable force and you will win without difficulty.” [quoted in Luigi Galleani’s The End of Anarchism?, p. 79 — different translation in The Ego and Its Own, p. 197]

Solidarity, therefore, is important to anarchists because it is the means by which liberty can be created and defended against power. Solidarity is strength and a product of our nature as social beings. However, solidarity should not be confused with “herdism,” which implies passively following a leader. In order to be effective, solidarity must be created by free people, co-operating together as equals. The “big WE” is not solidarity, although the desire for “herdism” is a product of our need for solidarity and union. It is a “solidarity” corrupted by hierarchical society, in which people are conditioned to blindly obey leaders.

[10nantscompanion]

In case you were thinking of getting a bubble or fromm subscription:

here's how the idol's I am or was subscribed to text

ateez:

Seonghwa:

seonghwa loml

he usually texts quite often!!

he's a very quick typer, so even though he's not online for long periods of time he still talks A LOT.

he talks very cutesy and slangy so - as a Korean learner - I sometimes have a hard time understanding him, but I feel like I've kinda gotten used to it by now haha I've definitely learned a lot of new words talking to him

sometimes he goes live on toktoq after being online on fromm 🥺

Yunho:

I've only just subscribed to him yesterday but he was online today so... I can give somewhat of a feedback I guess???

yunho talks a lot less cutesy than seonghwa does, so I can understand him quite well lol

was online for a longer period than seonghwa usually is, but he took his time typing his messages, giving me more time to think of a reply

OH

I've been telling him "goodbye" "see you later" "have a nice day" for... idk like 10 minutes until he actually left. HE SEEMED LIKE HE WAS GONNA LEAVE FOR 10 MINUTES STRAIGHT BUT EVERYTIME I SAID GOODBYE HE CAME UP WITH NEW THINGS TO TALK ABOUT LOL

oh

while writing this post he went online again

TO SEND

THIS

San:

I didn't have him for long cause he was always online at inconvenient times (usually around 4 or 5 am where I live) so I kept missing him :(

he's funny though!!! especially when he talks about forcing seonghwa to workout with him lol

I learned some verb endings from him that I didn't know before

can't really say much about the way he talks cause I kept missing him

I do love him 3000 though

Taemin:

lots of selfies!!! and when I say lots I mean LOTS!! mainly gym, taxi and bed selfies

also a lot of cat content!!! (very worth it imo)

doesn't text a lot but he "calls" A LOT (so basically lots of video and voice live streams) sometimes even daily!!!

Xdinary Heroes

Gaon:

usually texts everyday but mostly just 1-3 messages a day

however sometimes he's online for an hour or so!! he's very cute!! (gets shy when he's being complimented haha)

he likes to take photos while taking walks!!! he also sends selfies pretty regularly!!

he barely ever sends voice messages though!! I think he sent like 1 during the last year lol

O.de:

SO MANY SELFIES

daily selfies!!!

doesn't text a lot but he does go online daily!! (maybe it's different now I've only had him for a few months a year ago or so)

Jooyeon:

not online regularly BUT when he's online he sends a lot of voice messages of him singing!!

he also likes to send goofy photos lol

skz

Chan:

barely online BUT he translates everything he says which is very cute!!!

he's as delusional as we are lol

LeeKnow

doesn't talk a lot BUT is online almost everyday!!

CAT CONTENT!!!!! (=^･ω･^=)

likes to send tiny LOUD voice messages

loves to take pictures of his food at very unflattering, unappetizing angles lol

Hyunjin:

phew

I've only had him for a month or so a year ago

sends quite a lot of pictures which is cool!!

online almost everyday but only sends a few messages

Felix:

sometimes online multiple times a day

occasionally won't be online for days or weeks though

BUT WHEN HE'S ONLINE he's online for hours lol

sends his entire camera roll

lots of voice messages (usually in Korean and English)

sometimes does song covers and asmr

lots of good night voice memos with kisses hehe

he's very silly and asks you to do aegyo in exchange for photos

he can be pretty sentimental at times too which is very cute!

[ultrakdramamama]

240513 taemin_bpm [#태민] 📢

태민 공식 팬클럽 ‘TAEMate (탬메이트)’ 1기 모집 안내

🌱 가입처 : 프롬 fromm (https://bit.ly/4a9Ir7T) 🌱 모집 기간 : 2024/05/13 16:00 (KST) - 2024/06/02 23:59 (KST)

🔗 https://taemin-official.com/contents/66417b141e6415394461b3db

@xoalsox #TAEMIN #TAEMate#탬메이트

[eng tran] [#Taemin] 📢

Information on the 1st recruitment of Taemin’s official fan club ‘TAEMate’

🌱 Where to sign up: fromm (https://bit.ly/4a9Ir7T) 🌱 Recruitment period: 2024/05/13 16:00 (KST) - 2024/06/02 23:59 (KST)

🔗 https://taemin-official.com/contents/66417b141e6415394461b3db

@xoalsox #TAEMIN #TAEMate#TAEMate

[honeyhotteoks]

finally got time to properly read your reply (thanks for taking your time, i love your brain rots🫂) your insight is so true omg, clearly yun had been something else this new year and im loving it.

while it's true that most of the time, idols are heavily draw in to the fan service part of their job, it's also true that some of their actual personality behind doors is bound to bleed in. while i don't necessarily belive yunho is 100% fanservice driven, his content is, and that's where real yunho actually plays a huge part.

boyfriend pictures, the dates he usually goes on with the rest of the members and the photos he uploads of said dates (not only his face, but the scenery as well as pics with the other members too) appeals to all of us. we also know too that his aries is HEAVY on him when it comes to his fans. while he's not "in your face" he's made it clear time and time again that hotteoks are his and his only. and what you mentioned about him being a little jealous of other members being mentioned in his lives, it's clear that the boldness of that video has something to do with that as well.

im not trying to place yunho in a box, nor imply something he clearly isn't, but actions speak for themselves and our man has clearly been speaking with his content lately.

i'll not ramble this time, but thank you for your time and answer

✨anon

oh my goodness please ramble away, i so look forward to your messages in my inbox!!

great thoughts on this too - i completely agree that it’s a blend of fan service and real person because how could it not be. it’s like how at our jobs we put on a certain persona but it’s not *not* us in some ways, but everyone has different levels of authenticity they’re comfortable with in different settings with different audiences.

i will say when it comes to fanservice i’m fairly cynical. as someone who’s been in the corporate world for over ten years (blech this made me feel old and lame), something i know with confidence is that their contracts are strict and wildly stipulated by the company, it’s just how these things work. so it would not surprise me in the least if they had contracted goals or quotas around different types of fanservice such as like…. number of times they communicate via fromm per month or number of social media posts, even number of times they go live on toqtok etc. That being said….. just because I’m cynical about that, doesn’t mean I’m cynical about the way the boys engage with those quotas and goals.

I think it’s obvious that some members are more communicative with fans vs others, some members are more clear with ‘boyfriend’ boundaries than others (*cough* *cough* san and mingi) but they still do the fan engagement because i’m sure they like it, but it’s also part of their job. they’re just at a point in their careers and probably in their own self confidence and self worth that they know what they will and won’t engage with. I like to think Yunho is the same, he’s a convicted person with clear ethics, so if he’s posting content that’s really boyfriend-y and coming on lives all the time and on fromm a couple times a week….. I truly believe it’s because it’s a part of his job that he enjoys doing and so he does more of it. That’s kind of why I describe him as more “persona-less” etc., I seriously just think he’s this guy and he’s showing us that part of himself. Does it hit two birds with one stone contractually and for the fans, sure, but no one’s holding a gun to his head to do this kind of content (at least at this point in their careers) and that’s nice to know.

I also think as far as his dedication to hotteoks……… this is where the parasocial line gets blurry so I want to be super clear about how I feel. Not at all to disagree with you, but as a fic writer who writes self-insert I feel like it’s important to represent how I really feel about these parasocial connections that frankly I’m aware that my fic is contributing to. So on that note: I think Yunho loves hotteoks and is dedicated to hotteoks in the sense that he feels grateful to us, feels loved by us, feels accepted and encouraged by us, and he’s a kind person who understands the weight of holding all of those people’s expectations and hopes and happiness. I think two years ago it appeared he was going through a tougher time but wasn’t really sharing, but in the past year he’s been honest about the pressure of being an idol and being a person that is “responsible” for fans happiness, and instead of letting that pressure crush him he’s come out with more love, more joy, and found more ways to support his fans. However - I do think it’s important to understand that there’s a difference between THAT and a romantic connection or commitment to a partner. I don’t think you meant that in what you said, but I do think I see Atiny sometimes describe “dedication” to fans as all encompassing and meaning they aren’t dating/seeking romantic connection, so I feel responsible for saying it as a fic writer.

I write self insert fic knowing that it will probably strengthen a parasocial connections between people and Yunho, hell, it’s probably strengthened my own parasocial connection to him. BUT I think if we’re responsible consumers of media, responsible fans of a famous person, that we will always remember those boundaries are real and exist for good reason. Yunho is so dear to me for so many reasons, but despite how genuine I believe him to be and how much analysis I do….. ultimately, I don’t know him. I’ll never know him, and at this point as a writer he’s become a character for me. I just want to be sure everyone knows where I stand as a writer and ‘yunho analyzer’ lol - I’m delulu ofc, but not like that.

I believe that we can see him as an idol and trust his authenticity with engaging with fans, but not allow that to become a twisted conception of him, this leads to fans crossing boundaries they haven’t been giving permission to, and assuming familiarity they don’t have. The parasocial element of kpop is a dangerous one for that reason, so I just wanted to add these thoughts to my original analysis, especially since you noted his dedication to hotteoks as “one and only” - I totally know what you mean there, 100%, but I don’t know that everyone does and I work hard to have delulu fun in this fandom while at the same time trying to keep everyone level headed about all the parasocial stuff.

Hopefully this makes sense - I’ve honestly been thinking about this for days since I wrote that original reply and your message is really just a springboard for continuing to talk about it and clarifying a few things so…….. i guess i’m the one rambling now hahah