#corinne foxworth

[emiliosandozsequence]

flowers in the attic: the origin (2022) dir. declan o'dwyer & robin sheppard / woman by harry styles

[bonobochick]

Corinne and Christopher's romance in Flowers in The Attic: The Origin. 📖 💌

[beyondtheciouds]

“People have a way of believing nothing terrible will ever happen to them, only to others.”

― V.C. Andrews, Flowers In The Attic

[malcolm-neil-foxworth]

Olivia has just informed me Corrine will be having a sleepover with her friends...I'll have to check up on them later....

[jasonsmirrorball]

the parallels in flowers in the attic are driving me insane i’m actually frothing at the mouth like they’re so interconnected it’s like you are your mother are your father and so are your children after you i’m losing my mind

[dollanganger-in-the-attic]

what are your thoughts on Malcom's relationship with the first Corinne ? I feel like this is a part I always forget about but it also feels like the impetus for much of the Foxworth family trauma

Disclaimer, i havent read any of the after thought books about the first corrine

But going off of what was described in the Garden of Shadows book he sounds like a total oedipus complex! Like the peeping through the wall was mega creepy. It sounded like hes the reason she left! I do think its kind of funny though that this woman thought her toddler was so creepy that she dipped outta there lol So I’d agree Malcom’s mommy issues is the reason why the Foxworths and Dollangangers are doomed to suffer. Smh its always a man with mommy issues making it everyone else’s problem

Im curious for anyone who has ready the books about the first corrine, does it seem to stem back further than Malcom?

[ladymelisande]

I didn't notice at first, but to some extent, Alicent's completely fabricated backstory reminds me of Garden of Shadows the prequel to Flowers in the Attic. It tells the backstory of Olivia, the wicked, abusive and fanatical grandmother in the main series. 

As the story begins, Olivia is an intelligent, quick-witted, and romantic young woman in her mid-20s, and enters Foxworth Hall as a young and hopeful bride newly wed to handsome millionaire Malcolm Foxworth. But soon she realizes that her husband is a cold, ruthless, and cruel man unable to love anyone, even his own wife and children. He's a misogynistic sadist, has a severe madonna-whore complex and Oedipus complex, rapes Olivia, and ignores her and their sons. Then one day, Malcolm rapes his father's teenage wife and impregnate her. To save the Foxworth name and her sons from public humiliation, Olivia decides to raise her husband's daughter as her own, and although Olivia does feel affection for Corinne, she can't help but resent the circumstances of the girl's birth, and Malcolm's excessive favoritism of her over their sons does not help at all. After witnessing Malcolm's lust, violence, and incestuous passion destroy their family, Olivia grows to believe that the entire Foxworth bloodline is tainted, and that God has brought her into Foxworth Hall to purify the sin. Years of being married to Malcolm eventually turned her into a cynical and cold-hearted religious zealot, creating the monster who lock her “grandchildren” (Corinne's children) in the attic because, as products of incest, she thinks they're “the devil's spawn” and an abomination against God (their parents are half-niece and half-uncle, but they are also half-siblings, as they have the same mother, Malcolm's stepmother).

Fucking hell, that is some backstory, you might be right, nonny.

You know what my problem with Alicent's backstory is, nonny? It's that is the most cardboard boring backstory in the whole show and that it is not an adaptation but a very boring, radfem typical belief of women antagonists' backstory. I don't know if you have noticed but every time radfemish fandoms or writers try to justify a woman abusing other women or girls, they invent this super tragic backstory where an evil husband raped or abused her. Adding rape to a backstory that had none is not nuance. It is just a cheap tactic to get sympathy points and is disgusting.

When in true, in real life women can be abusers because they are pieces of shit quite well.

Another thing is that Hess and Condal didn't bother to adapt Alicent and Viserys' relationship from the book, they just completely rewrote it. One of the most obvious things about Viserys in the book is that he loved Alicent, why? Because he kept indulging her! He kept avoiding ways to make her and her party stop harassing Rhaenyra, he kept choosing her over his own daughter. Alicent might not given a shit about him in the books but it was clear that Viserys loved Alicent because even Rhaenyra kept the bitch alive out of love to her father. They could have explored Alicent having complicated feelings about Viserys, maybe choosing for ambition but then seeing how he loved her and wanting to use that love to further her sons' position. They could have her feel guilty if they wanted more so called 'grey' moments. Instead we have Alicent the Sympathetic Sue, who doesn't affect the narrative, does nothing but cry and has a utterly ridiculous try-hard-to-make-her-pitiful backstory done by two tone deaf and annoying writers that think somehow her having agency in her own relationships was a lie.

They are so pathetic.

[rhaenall]

do you genuinely, romantically ship kenlogan? Like you want them to suck and fuck each other? Or do you like the fucked dynamic of… I don’t even know how to describe it… mutual, intrinsic obsession? How would you describe how you enjoy that… pairing? I’m just curious if anyone enjoys their relationship the same way I do.

Hmmm loaded question. How do you enjoy Ken and Logan, anon? I am curious now.

All my feelings about Kenlogan are out there and I’ve really never held back on my thoughts on Kenlogan. So I was a little surprised by this and I'm a little nervous now. However since it will get me talking about Kenlogan I don’t mind it as much 😇😚

I will try my best to explain how I enjoy Kenlogan 🙏

The Romance part

To talk about this I’m going to use the other Kendall ships that I adore as a comparison: Kenrava, Kenaomi and Kenstewy. These I would consider Romantic ships. All three romantic partners are people that Kendall loved/loves romantically and/or platonically in canon and to me. I do not see Kenlogan in the same category as these three. What I do think is that Kenlogan is an obstacle to all of them. However hey are not the same to me, it’s not the same type of Love.

What I also think is that Kendall and Logan’s relationship does carry elements of a Romantic relationship even if they are not one. The elements would be from a toxic Romantic relationship. The one where the two people aren’t good for each other, have disdain for each other but at the same time can’t stay away and do have this strong love and bond. I have posted this how Kenlogan sometimes seems to have characteristics of a marriage (mostly in S2/S3)

In season 2 we see how dependent on Logan Kendall is and dare I say that Logan was just as dependent. They are intertwined with each other. We see Logan give Kendall affection that he doesn't give his other three children. It's affection but we can see how oppressive it is to Kendall. Logan has this power over him, Kendall just puts his head down ready for the beheading

S3 is where Kendall breaks this and I spoke on how Kenlogan’s actions reminded me of a couple getting divorce before too. Kendall trying to get the sibs on his side like a mother trying to get her children on her side and then getting painted out to be the crazy one. I went a little insane about this.

Kenlogan To Me

Well, going of from my above explanation to me Kenlogan are heavily intertwined, interwoven, with each other but they shouldn’t be and I think that’s the appeal to me. It's an unhealthy dynamic.

Before I watched Succession I actually watched Flowers in the Attic: Origin. There we had Mr. Foxworth who has this obsession with his daughter Corrine. It was horrifying to watch, Mr. Foxworth is a horrible man. However, I was really drawn to it because it’s so unnatural but still has this connection to Father-Daughter dynamics (Him not allowing her to see other men for example). I can’t really explain why I am drawn to fucked up dynamics like that other than that’s fascinating to explore

But I don’t think I would have found Kenlogan fascinating if I didn’t stumble upon Flowers in the attic first. hhhhhhh.

I think Logan has a similar obsession with Kendall. Logan wants Kendall broken like Mr. Foxworth wanted Corinne isolated from other men. Logan sees Kendall as an equal but at the same time he wants Kendall to rely on him, he couldn’t stand having Ken be on his own two feet.

And Kendall even if he wanted to break free from Logan he can’t, Logan is the sun he orbits (Thank you Jeremy Strong I will always use this now). Everything he does Logan’s shadow is looming over him. Even in season 3 and 4 where Ken seems to fight for the greater good or just wanting to break from Logan, it was rebellion against Logan. He wanted to break Logan...it was all about Logan.

“He made me (not us, me) hate him then he died.” It’s all about him and Logan! And even after Logan’s death Kendall could not shake him off, emulating Logan’s behavior, holding onto Logan and being his number one boy, Logan is inside of him, Ken can’t escape-- 😵‍💫

I guess this is how I enjoy Kenlogan, heavily dependency that fostered this mutual fixation, it's love that is twisted, haunting and violent and oppressive (for Kendall mostly) but I think the love does have it's in the eye of the storm moments, where everything is still and quiet and it's just the two of them on the same lane, two equals.

I liked how you described it as intrinsic, mutual obsession 🥰

About the sex part...most Kenlogan fics are explicit I think this is because of the undeniable power dynamic that exists, Logan holding this power over Kendall and how Ken submits to it so this translating into smut is very unsurprising.

[rhaenyras]

I understand now why Corinne Sr abandoned her son and run away from Foxworth Hall.... The best decision she ever made!

well, she probably lived a peaceful life and outlived them all, wherever she went. but would malcolm have been less of a sociopathic sexual predator & pedophile, had she stuck around??? it's not for us to know

[shipcestuous-two]

Hey! So I’m doing a Flowers in the Attic movie marathon in preparation for the upcoming Origin series and these movies bring up so many cool memories! Bart and Cindy and their antagonistic somewhat toxic dynamic is always so fun to watch especially specially in contrast how healthy and supportive Chris and Cathy are.I love how the writers were”screw it let’s make them canon!”I still rebuking being all”omg really?!”when I found out they end the movie together and married.😂 It’s nice to see Bart breaking up the cycle and becoming who he wants to be instead of another version of Malcolm. Plus with the Origin series we have Chris Sr and Corinne starting up the incest tradition(not counting Malcolm’s creepy obsession with his mom and daughter)and Bart/Cindy completing the circle,lol.

PS:On re-watch there’s this moment when Cindy is trying to get beck at Bart by dressing up for his birthday in a dress she knows he’ll absolutely hate and is all”Red is his fav colour”and it’s almost sweet how she seems to mow these small things about him and vice versa(the present he gives her at Christmas).😍

I think Bart ending the cycle of toxicity (excluding Cathy and her siblings) is really important to the story. (Wuthering Heights has something similar.) The Foxworths have a dark streak but it is possible for characters to rise above it, and Bart finally does.

I love the present Bart gives Cindy at Christmas. And I love that they wrote that scene. No matter all his barking, he knows her and he gives her something she'll appreciate.

I love talking these two. Thanks!

[filthbear]

more rambling about the dollanganger series while i wait for lee bc i finished rereading seeds of yesterday and i’m also still mad about the movies. i don’t think i can finish them. i paid lifetime five dollars and i just don’t got it in me

for one thing you’re gonna sit there and make julien BRITISH? YOU CAN’T FIND A TWO-BIT ACTOR IN YOUR LINEUP WHO THINKS THEY CAN DO A RUSSIAN ACCENT? unforgiveable. i got to the date scene with him and cathy and i closed my ipad and went to such an angry sleep.

i also really can’t sit with the redemption of olivia— it does absolutrly nothing for the story and frankly the story doesn’t at all benefit anybody and it feels like a circle jerk— ultimatelt corinne still does her corinne thing god what does If There Be Thorns even look like oh man i hope they put her in old age makeup

anyway anyway seeds of yesterday. fuck. hello. finishing this post like two hours later but i had this theory that it ends and we’re meant to assume bart is repeating the cycle with cindy— i think i’m wrong but it just made me so angry about the ending AGAIN and also reminded me of my deep hate for christopher dollanganger foxworth sheffield i HATE his ass how are you gonna marry your sister only to be such a fucking ABSENT HUSBAND

[cravendesires]

We wouldn't want to leave anything living, and loving of sunshine, in this attic.

V.C ANDREWS, Flowers In The Attic.

[child-of-hurin]

thots abt flowers in the attic

Ok but Olivia Foxworth was legit doing a daily routine of waking up at 3 in the morning to bring poisoned food to her four grandchildren, whom she kept captive in her attic for three years, all because her daughter asked her to? Not that Olivia seems like she needs a lot of convincing to do Cruelty to those kids but WOW. I feel like the scene with the chrysantemums is there to be paired up with Olivia’s nightly prayer scene, to clarify that morally she can excuse herself plenty for incarceration starvation and torture BUT would draw the line at murder? Except it’s for her daughter’s sake. Even if she takes pleasure in most of the violence she’s inflicting, the excuse she gives herself and her god is that it’s all for her daughter sake. This novel really said Iconic Evil Motherhood on every single level. Gillian Flynn hold my hand 🤝

[sunsetofdoom]

alchemine replied to your post: I think. My problem is. That Flowers in the Attic...

I’ll never achieve ironic foreshadowing like that part at the beginning where Cathy is sad about leaving her childhood bedroom, and her mother tells her to let it go because she’ll live in a hundred rooms before she dies, AND THEN IMMEDIATELY LOCKS HER UP WITH NO PLANS TO EVER RELEASE HER

YOU!!!!

YOU GET IT!!!!

[gothictales]

NOW PRESENTING…MALCOLM NEAL FOXWORTH JR. | STATS

“mother it’s only around the driveway. i’ll drop corinne off at the gate and she can walk back. besides, if you don’t let me take her for a ride, i’m going to make you get on.”

open for plotting @gothictales

[tgbreviews]

When the story ended in the previous book, Beneath the Attic, a very young and secretly pregnant Corrine Dixon was preparing for her upcoming wedding to Garland Foxworth. Out of the Attic wastes little time moving the story forward, noting the wedding and the birth of Malcolm in a brief prologue, with the remainder of the story taking place five years later.

That was my first problem with this book.  It left me feeling disoriented immediately. The first words I read in this book stated that it was “picking up where Beneath the Attic left off”. If it had done that, I wouldn’t have kept wondering if I was reading the THIRD book in the series, rather than the second. I was terribly confused… how could Malcolm be almost five years old when the wedding hadn’t even happened yet?! I had to look it up on Google, because I was convinced I was reading the wrong book… only to find out I wasn’t. Wait… what?!

Fine. It was a sloppy beginning, but I can over it. The story will get better now that I understand where we are in the timeline. Right?

Wrong. Because now, I had to deal with other issues that drove me crazy.

People still behaved in historically incorrect ways. The dialogue was still horribly wrong for people living in 1895. For example: at one point, Garland tells Corinne “You’re hot.” (And no… she wasn’t feverish.) How is a reader supposed to buy that this story takes place in the late 19th century, with something like that being said?!

Despite the passing of several years (and addition of a child), there isn’t any character growth to be found in Corrine or Garland. The characters are shallow, and fail to have any redeeming qualities. Malcolm, despite his important role in Flowers in the Attic, has little impact in the overall story. As described in the book, he is nothing more than a stereotypical bratty child. Nothing makes him stand out in a way that foreshadows who he will eventually become, despite looks and/or actions being described as ‘sly’. It never felt potentially ominous in the least to me—it came across only as a young child attempting to get his way about something, and nothing more.

Though I did feel compassion for Corrine due to an event late in the story, it failed to have the serious impact it could have had, if only she were a more sympathetic character. If I truly cared about her, what happened would have evoked a storm of emotions… but she was unlikable as a whole that it simply wasn’t possible.

Once again, I have to point out that Garland is nothing like the one shown in Garden of Shadows. I have a great deal of difficulty accepting the drastic changes between his younger and older selves. People do change as they age, but this much? Opinions may vary, but it doesn’t feel realistic to me.

The epilogue (which I nearly missed because a list of other VCA series came before it), featured a twist that greatly intrigued me. Possibilities abound, and I’m curious if anything will come of it. That, more than anything, has me curious to read the next book, Shadows of Foxworth.

I received an advance reading copy of this book courtesy of Gallery Books via Netgalley.

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Author: V.C. Andrews Title: Out of the Attic Series: Dollanganger #7 Genre: Gothic, Historical Fiction Publication Date: February 4, 2020 by Gallery Books Rating: 2 stars

About the Book

The twisted, beloved Dollanganger legend began two generations before Corrine Foxworth locked away her children in Flowers in the Attic. The second book in a new prequel story arc, Out of the Attic explores the Dollanganger family saga by traveling back decades to when the clan’s wicked destiny first took root.

Married to the handsome, wealthy Garland Foxworth following a wildfire romance, and an unexpected pregnancy, young Corrine Dixon finds her life very different from how she imagined it. Often alone in the mansion of Foxworth Hall, she can practically feel the ancestors’ judgment of her as insufficient—as not a Foxworth. Stern portraits glare at her from the walls, and the servants treat her strangely. Nothing in the vast place is truly hers.

Even her son, Malcolm Foxworth, born in the luxe Swan Room and instantly whisked away to a wet nurse, feels alien to her. With a husband alternately absent and possessively close, Corrine doesn’t yet realize that she’s barely scratched the surface of what lies beneath Foxworth Hall’s dark facade and the family that guards its legacies.

About the Author

V. C. Andrews died on December 19, 1986. The majority of the books attributed to V. C. Andrews were actually written by a ghostwriter, Andrew Neiderman. For more information on how he was chosen, read this page on  The Complete VCA.

V.C. Andrews

Andrew Neiderman, ghostwriter of the V.C. Andrews novels

Books written by V.C. Andrews before her death

Dollanganger #1

Dollanganger #2

Dollanganger #3

Dollanganger #4

Audrina #1

Casteel #1

Casteel #2

Out of the Attic by V.C. Andrews When the story ended in the previous book, Beneath the Attic, a very young and secretly pregnant Corrine Dixon was preparing for her upcoming wedding to Garland Foxworth.