#daemyra deleted scenes

[sankta-wraith]

DAEMYRA COMFORTING THEIR SON VISERYS

[lanaisdoe]

We need to politely ask all HOTD writers on twitter abouut these deleted scenes...

You're right :") ....that would be awesome... to start a real wave :") and to include HBO as well, i mean, HBO probably has influence over them and they at least seem to be more positive when it comes to DAEMYRA cuz they care about the success of the show, views and fans, ...unlike the writers who seem to be dead set on simply showing their very own perspective, clearly having their own favorites and mixing in 21st century world views...

So yeah, i guess i'd definitely include HBO ;)

....and man... i'm also dying to see Daemon's speech during the family dinner :")))) why wouldn't they release such a huge amount of incredible content, don't they want to earn more / get even more views??? DAEMYRA and Rhaenyra and Daemon ARE the realy actual success of HotD ... anything including them will totally sell! :")

[anamazingangie]

Rhaenyra and Daemon Targaryen deleted scene, post episode seven.

originals from here x, edits by me. adobe ai used for expanded stone backdrops, the rest is manipulated from other screenshots.

i do not own the photos, i just do the edits. but credit is always appreciated if you do use them. more edits here!

[darklinaforever]

Everything we've been deprived of...

[eschercaine]

They deleted the scenes with Jace saying “We can’t trust the usurper,” and Baela’s “The greens must be answered with fire and blood,” so that Daemon could look like he is the only one wanting to wage war.

The producers really don’t like the blacks, especially Daemon, do they?

[selene-bathory]

And in "Scenes That Did Not Make It to the Final Cut"... I wonder where in the Seven Kingdoms are they 🤔 

House Of The Dragon - Episode 7: Driftmark

[itsgameofthronesimagines]

Friendly reminder that they keep cutting out the scenes where Daemon is shown as a loving father and doting husband:

[alannacouture]

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Deleted Daemyra scenes (and, yes, they’re different scenes - check out Daemon’s clothes & Rhaenyra’s hair)

[spider-bren]

Little deleted part of my daemyra fic I was working on:

"If I had you once--if I gave in to my desires for you, I would have lost all sense. I would be insatiable. I have to have you in every way. It would have been wrong of me to take you in that brothel, I know I was wrong. That was why I asked your father for your hand the very next day. You can imagine how that went. He banished me again and told me I ruined you. I told him it was better your first time be with me because only I know you and he said I have filled your head with senseless thoughts. That you are to produce heirs and wed someone else. I had no choice but to leave. I fought for us. I begged him. I want to marry you in the tradition of our house. When I told him that perhaps we needed to change the law that you have to produce heirs, he scorned me. Held a dagger to my throat. How dare I change law as I see fit. When I heard you married Laenor, I knew I had lost you. He is a man in favour of you. You could love him. He is a good man and a noble knight. You can be happy with him. So I left. I left you for a decade but I have never wavered in my affections for you, Rhaenyra. My feelings are still what they were and if you'll have me…I swear I will do everything in my power to keep you by my side." 

- Daemon Targaryen

[midlandslady]

SPOILERS AHEAD: DAEMYRA

When the sentence: "I could not. I have tried." means "I have tried but I love you too damn much so I can't" - Oh Daemon, you simp. How much you have missed her.

Daemon first walks in full of confidence, reminiscent of all those times he would show up uninvited.

Then he gets close to her and you see the vulnerability there:

As if he's saying: I've missed you. Do you forgive me? Will you take me back?

Ans she is not fully ready to. But then he talks about the Song of Ice and Fire and she is unarmed. She thinks: Who is this man? What happened to him for him to have changed so much?

And Simon's face: Who would have thought, hein? But he is so pleased!

And Rhaenyra is surprised, she is in awe. Is this real?

And then she holds his hand in a gesture of: I want you to be with me. Always. Together.

And then she threatens him, which is perhaps my favorite part.

And then he brings their faces together and she looks at the audience. He was definitely forgetting himself there.

And her small smile to him.

And finally Simon in the background clapping happily about this outcome. I always knew you were a Daemyra shipper, Lord Simon.

PS: The leaked scene was deleted. Rats! I downloaded it, yet somehow the quality is awful. Oh well.

[horizon-verizon]

Idk if this has been said before so forgive me in advance if I'm repeating a take, but I think it's pretty tone deaf to use deleted scenes of s1 to argue about the writing for s2.

For instance "Rhaenyra 'begged' Daemon to remain by her side". The scene from the original trailer was different to the one we saw in the actual episode. In the trailer, Rhaenyra gave the impression she was aware of the Greens as a threat, whereas in the actual episode her request came off more as seeking out an old love - given they had also slept together in the driftmark episode (You and I were always meant to burn together) That scene was more emotional than a politically strategic one.

Similarly to Daemon / his daughters. In the show, there's little affection from him. One might even make the argument he's almost indifferent to them. Adding how his marriage with Laena was.... it doesn't help making the picture any better.

So using a single picture from a deleted scene where daemon hugged his daughters to argue that he does in fact love them is pretty useless. Did it happen in the actual show? No. So we might as well not pretend it did.

The reason I'm saying this is because I see so many people using scene A (daemyra) as an argument again the "I can't trust you daemon" dialogue from s2 - nevermind daemon had given numerous of reason for rhaenyra to not trust him (the brothel alone is enough imo) and scene B (daemon [not] being absent father) to ague against Baela saying she hates him.

The writing is barely trying to keep up consistency with what they came up with for s1 and fans still try to argue about these deleted scenes being important for the narrative. I'm quite confident these scenes have been dismissed by the writers. They're not canon even for show-verse

Anon talks abt this post.

*7/14/24* I guess we could argue that Rhaenyra was more trying to address his tendency to leave her when things get too hard by accusing him of cold ambition (as an expression from the fear that he only wants her for power since he didn't bother to help her out at least 2x before, so this is her taking an opportunity to draw him into it and express that fear)...again, this doesn't make much sense when this show has made us believe that they had rather very peaceful and happy and fulfilled days on Dragonstone from S1 E8! This is a pre-marriage argument or at least an argument had either before Rhaenyra proposes to him--thus the argument is her confronting him before she ties herself to him--OR it's had in the first two years when he does something nasty or sus and she confronts him. It's not an argument that one has 6 years after marriage and raising 6 children and seemingly completely satisfied with one's partner WITHOUT HAVING ALREADY WRITTEN MULTIPLE SCENES SHOWING/ESTABLISHING SOMETHING LIKE A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT HOLDS A LOT OF TENSION BETWEEN THEM BEFORE THIS ARGUMENT! It should have been built into to make any modicum of sense. *END*

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I've never even watch the trailer you're speaking about, anon.

I have recorded the episode's conversation, subtitles and all, and cut out unnecessary stuff for the flow:

All Rights got to Max/HBOMax/HBO, this video is not mine!!!!

We have Rhaenyra say that the sea offers an escape and that fire is a prison, then she tells Daemon:

"I need you uncle. I cannot face the greens alone. Let us bind our blood just as Aegon the Conqueror did with his sisters. With you as my husband and prince consort, my claim would not be so easily challenged. The Velaryons are of the sea, but you and I are made of fire. We have always been meant to burn together."

RED for politics, or words that could be more argued as such

BLACK for "pure" love/desire, or words that could be more argued as such

PINK for a mish-mash, intertwined thing--most likely

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Show!Rhaenyra point blank says that she can't face the greens alone and mentions her claim needing and will become more protected with him by her side in the actual episode. So while I am ignorant of whatever trailer you mean, I don't see how she isn't also trying to enlist him for herself as she is also trying to have him as a bonafide romantic partner/husband?

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A)

Here's the other thing....Epi 10 Rhaenyra was a travesty. And no the brothel scene is not actually enough for the kind of distrust she should have for him.

I know for some Epi 10 was their favorite episode or at least really good. That Rhaenys seems wise bc the whole ethical standard here is no violence for the sake of human life and prevent war at all costs or seems to be. But:

most of the characters of the blacks we know, inclu. show!Rhaenys, tie and time again have shown a lack of care for humans life just for human life sake (beast beneath the boards...if Rhaenys cared all that much she would do all she could to not kill even peasants or "sacrifice" so many...therefore she is not even compassionately "wise" as some figure her show!self to be). I think of her alone bc this is the character people say has the "right idea" of things

Rhaenyra was actually considering giving up the throne when Viserys entrusted her and not the rapist, profligate, excess-loving, much more selfish Aegon with the prophecy...and for a very good reason when he could have doe otherwise when Aegon lived with him since birth and she was at Dragonstone for a bit...and no, do we actually think Aegon would take such a thing seriously NOW of all times without Viserys there and his desire to not responsibly rule?! Much too late.

this is not a world where Rhaenyra or her family would be totally safe from the greens IF one argues what many green stans argued abt Alicentr having good reason to attack and try to diminish Rhaenyra's power at court--fear of other agents using Rhaenyra's kids against Otto and the greens since they do have their own claims....Aegon has less/no claim bc no one swore oaths to him and the lords were much more concerned with how Rhaenyra's claim would benefit their own interests in maintaining the safety of their designated heirs -> thus the greens were much safer with Rhaneyra as Queen than her and her family were under Aegon as King, esp with how jealous he and his brothers were

Daemon was not preparing to go to any sort of war without her say so; he protested that they weren't going to at least try to defend the castle [she she was laboring] AND that she would even think to give it up, which I already described was not-so-smart bc of the above except the prophecy bit

Lucerys' death was supposed to be the actual straw that broke the camel's back to usher in the war. Hello, kinslaying is a huge taboo?!!!! And all of it is just swept under the rug for Jaehaerys' death as if that is the first wrong done and why the war happens! Envoyship!!! This is her son, her "sweet boy"! The heir to Driftmark and to the Velaryon seat. Yes she says that she would never want "Helaena of all people" to go through what she goes through...but that is an emotional matter and not the political one that she brings up as her main reason to distrust Daemon or to accuse him of intentionally wanting Jaehaerys' head in case he can't get Aemond's. She was never with him with the idea of his "neutral" morality.

Instead, in order for the showrunners to recreate a "moral" female character, they remove all the fire and passion she had for her family and her family only to make her an inactive pacifist who cries at a page from a "friend" giving her a page about a female conqueror but has abused her and endangered said children for at least 10 years in their own home. Even the most patient person can't be expected to take all that and not want to defy/punish/use all their strength to flout that entity that is absolutely out to get them and theirs. Male characters can be absolutely insane, sexually deviant/perverted, or just self concerned (Robb Stark, Tywin Lannister, Ned Stark, Oberyn Martell, Tyrion Lannister, Jaime Lannister). etc....but for female characters we draw the line at her looking towards her self interests?

B)

Apart from that, the character of Rhaenyra of season 2 episode 2 doesn't jive with her season 7-8 selves. It's not that I think she should totally accept child-murder as a necessity, or a trivial consequence of the game, or that show-wise she would. So much as I'm not sure how they expect me to believe that she'd think that:

Daemon would go buck wild and go against what he knew would be her wishes when he's already been shown to not want to rule from the very beginning and it's literally been six years of seemingly peaceable married life and two kids later

so much as she questions whether or not he intends to rule through her or use her up -- his actual political priorities concerning if he wants to rule…

she'd have so many detractors (as she seems to think) from her cause after being accused of having Jaehaerys murdered in this society when Aemond killed Lucerys -- esp without sufficient sort of contextual scene to show why she feels this way --

nevermind daemon had given numerous of reason for rhaenyra to not trust him (the brothel alone is enough imo)

Rhaenyra accepted Daemon's "darkness" as soon as she asked him to marry her, and especially when she absolutely knows him capable - willing of killing Laenor if she asked for that ion S1 E7. Because she is and always has been aware of how that darkness is not intended for those he holds dear. She knows (or at least is supposed to) who he is and what he's about, at least that is what they wrote and showed us. Daemon here is also fine with the prospect of just letting Laenor leave...bc he helps her do that.

AND, most importantly, she seemed fine and very aware of the effects of the rumors of her killing Laenor for her reputation bc it built that public trepidation she accepted:

R: This will cost Lord Corlys and Princess Rhaenys their only remaining child. And the realm will whisper that I was somehow responsible for it. D: Let them whisper. We will know the truth of it and out enemies won't. R: They will fear what else we might be capable of.

She still wanted to marry him of all people bc she trusted he would do a lot for her and do it as well as he can, throw himself into it. So when she says she wants Aemond Targaryen in full public ear to her council and she walks off still bedraggled from her flights she would know he heard that and would take some from of action and she implicitly understands that he will. So for her to distrust that he is not doing as he always said he was doing--do as she asks and not really intending go beyond that--then yes I am very confused why they are even together the way they wrote it.

If Rhaenyra is more politically conscious and is truly looking out more for her kids and for her own claims, she would have thought throughly about Daemon's role and possible disadvantages of him being with her, bring up why he left her, and throughly (not just in one night before sex) go over why he brought her down there in the first place instead of leave that question unanswered until its' pretty much too late and they have 2 sons on their own.

If she had any more substantial issues of where he stood in terms of politics even after she challenged him back in episodes 2 AND he left her be at the brothel when he could have just continued...why bring them up now and not before they marry?! Before she makes him a part of her household and be around the children he's supposed to fight the claims for?

If they show & say that Rhaenyra has such a strong mother's instinct to protect her kids form literally anyone...are they saying that she doesn't include Daemon in that?! Are they trying to say that she is so impractical as they also say she is a quick thinker (the aftermath of Vhagar claim, Aemond's eye, Rhaenyra v Alicent in trying to avoid-inflict punishment for their sons) or a good planner (Laenor-death plan)? Or are they saying she is so abused she cannot think towards her children's safety at the very least?

C)

This also presents us questions on how the hell she managed to actually rule Dragonstone and be as calm and happy as the show itself presented to us back in episode 8 if Daemon actually was as distrustful, scary, disruptive under her home and authority in all the 6 years they've been together.

So to lightly bring back your words but in a different way/meaning:

Did it [Daemon being untrustworthy bc of x, y, z while living with her and her sons] happen in the actual show? No. So we might as well not pretend it did.

If you are going to say that he really and constantly did shit that made her develop a resentful distrust of him throughout their marriage, then you need to show that, not tell it during an argument and expect people to believe that if they already are to projecting their thoughts about Daemon only being w/Rhaenyra for the power onto the scene or, as Sara Hess does, insert their nonreading compunctions about Daemon into the writing. Otherwise we're running on assumptions that themselves do not explain how this event connects to the s1 epi8 events of them very easily and casually presenting a united front, Daemon not necessarily being lead by the nose but truly agreeing and following her lead in many instances, etc. etc. that all convey a relationship of sincere trust b/t them?

And this is another reason why I simply do not care for episode 10 bc yes the choking scene is both an inconsistency as well as butchering a female character--both the female character of the show AND who Rhaenyra seemed to be from the book. They're not selling domestic abuse very well so much as using some of the audience's assumption of it happening to justify the inconsistency. DV/DA seems to be more a plot device meant to easily explain Daemyra to non-toxic ship loving people. And no DV and DA are just abusive, not "toxic" (which is why I constantly ask what people mean when they say something is toxic).

We might be riding a thin line here, but my issue is not that I think she distrusts Daemon's willingness to measure his desires/impulses against his priorities at the right time and place so much as it's not enough to use the brothel scene to explain away all the implied contradictions coming from them not bothering to write out scenes instead of the many time jumps.

[allyriadayne]

what parts of the script you wished they kept and is there something you were happy they cut?

three scenes come to mind that i wish they have kept:

ep 9 when alicent discovers her hand is being offered to the greyjoys because it makes so much clear her motivations regarding getting to aegon first, plus emphasizing her search for agency and power under patriarchy.

ep 7 when daemon and rhaenyra have sex on the beach because the differences in the script bridge the gap much much better between earlier episodes daemyra and later episodes daemyra than the scene we got. also because, again, emphasizes rhaenyra's agency in this relationship.

rhaenys and baela conversation in ep 10 because god it locks rhaenys' character and finally makes her make sense. also baela has her moment as her parent's daughter. this is interesting because it's the only deleted scene that was released! condal regretted it probably because it really was important.

i also liked several directions and conversations that we did not get in ep 10 because explain and unravel daemon and rhaenyra very well. especial mention to the scene between jace and rhaenyra also in ep 10 because while i adore it, it don't think it fit that well with the episode. i really hope some of it get reused for season 1 tho.

and the ones i was happy they cut i think only the one in ep 10 where daemon is in the room when rhaenyra is giving birth (twitter link bc i had to scroll my feed) because i don't think it adds anything when we already have daemon in the war room. oh and the one where rhaenyra calls alicent a whore (couldn't find the link rip). not because i think it's bad and ooc but because the fandom would've ruin it lol.

[anamazingangie]

The first time between Rhaenyra Targaryen and her Uncle, Daemon Targaryen.

Favorite House of the Dragon Season One Scenes 10/?

Edit by me, photos from (x).

[darklinaforever]

Apparently we will be entitled to cut scenes in the Blue-Ray.

I swear, if he talks bullshit, I'm going to take it very badly. I will pray until the end for Daemon's scene with his daughters.

[eschercaine]

REJOICE FAM!!!!

[emilykaldwen]

Hi, can you please explain what's going on in the HOTD fandom. I love your blog, it's like a safe switch and if there's drama I feel like I can filter through it on your blog and avoid going through the tag without being stressed tf out

Hello yes welcome I am desperately trying to maintain that feel because my blog is ALSO my safe space.

So there was a whole thing the past two days about someone who started claiming they were posting 'deleted scenes', much like the script draft snippets being posted by the user Darksvster (who had gone to the WGA library to look at the previous drafts of the hotd scripts).

And basically they came out and said 'why did no one believe me but you're willing to believe that other person' and there was a lot of mess how because Darksvster likes Daemyra, they were faking the content to show... Daemyra positively? As if the show hasn't been clear from day one that this is the ship of the show?

And now people are just making dramatic fake script things and it was funny at first, but now it's just the wave of exhaustion.

I think for me, as someone who did come from generally positive fandom environments in the past that survived during long waits (looking at the old days on Fiction Alley), I would really just love it people stopped screaming and yelling about things that just don't matter. Please engage with other fandoms, find something new you like to get through long hiatuses and breaks.

Because Anon, I feel the way you do - and yes, I'll comment on what I see, but I see a lot of people who are just unhappy. And It's not something I think will go away when the new season airs. It's going to be screaming and fighting about how the show contradicts headcanons and ideas that people have, what they've adapted from the book, massive amounts of disagreements.

And while yes, we can and should approach our stuff with critical thinking and analysis when we choose, I'm just tired of the yelling. I'm tired of the fighting. I'm tired of people getting beat up on. I have never seen anything like this before. It's baffling to me.

The TL;DR of it is: I wish I could understand outside of 'I think everyone needs to go and get some other hobbies so their whole interests aren't just revolving around this one thing' because I think it's driving everyone insane.