The few times I’ve overheard them when my husband answers the door is “are you Brother (last name)” and my husband says “no they’re not here at the moment” and then some excuse of “I’m actually just going up to bed/it’s not a good time etc”. He wants nothing to do with religion as a whole so he doesn’t want to talk to them to begin with but they’ll just stand at the door for 10 minutes straight to make damn sure that nobody is home before they leave, so it’s faster to just open the door and send them on their way
One time I was upstairs watching out the window and there was a third person in their car with a computer or an ipad or something in their lap with the brightness all the way up. Once my husband got them to leave, I went around and made sure every door and window on the first floor was shut and locked. Like you show up where I am, after dark, AND I’m not expecting you? I’ve seen too many episodes of Criminal Minds for that, thanks.
Apparently they show up just to talk to my ILs, idk if it’s for actual church goodwill reasons, like how the church that I grew up in used to do home ministry for people that couldn’t physically make it to the building, OR because my ILs don’t go to any mormon church out here and the overarching church wants to keep tabs on them, like you said. I lean toward the second one but I’ve never been at their house when they’re home and the mormons show up (nor do I want to be, I don’t need them knowing who I am to stalk me like that)
Omg the mormons I was trying to ghost did the same thing, it was always young men in their mission outfits and they would stand outside for FOREVER, like 15 or 20 minutes after knocking. And listen, if I'm not expecting someone and they don't look like the mail person or police or someone official, I usually don't answer (the only people who'd do that around here are trying to sell you something). If there's no answer, most people leave in like 30 seconds so it legitimately did freak me out when I'd walk by the a window 10 mins later and catch these guys out of the corner of my eye (and hide lol).
I totally agree, in your ILs case I'm definitely leaning toward the second explanation too. It sounds like the same kind of behavior bc in my case, they were trying to get me to come back after the recruitment thing, and in their case maybe it's the same protocol for mormons who the church knows are in a certain area with a church but not attending.
I don't blame you for not wanting to engage. Don't get me wrong they're usually perfectly friendly, but they have a very vacuum salesman approach once you start a conversation. You have to really be firm and say no so many times, esp if it's not a first time thing and you're involved with the LDS somehow.
Thank you for sharing! That is genuinely so interesting, I wonder what their deal is...
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I Confronted An Ex Member of Church of Satan | He Said God Is the Greatest!
I came face to face with an ex member of the Assemblies of Light Bearer Greater Church of Lucifer (Church of Satan) and I asked him some of the questions you would want to ask.
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James Baldwin: History is not the present. It is the present.
A submission from Deprogramming Imperialism
And in the same spirit of the words quoted above from James Baldwin, a quote from Yuri Kochiyama: "Unless we know ourselves and our history, and other people and their history, there is really no way that we can really have positive kinds of interaction where there is real understanding.”
Our history lives us. In fact, our family's history lives in us, and even the world's history.
For survivors of the Unification Church: We cannot run away from the experiences and contradictions that constructed our lives and the world around us. We cannot simply run away from the ghosts of our trauma, or the constant ideological programming we endured under the Unification Church. These things continue to haunt how we think and act.
To untangle the chaos of our pasts, and to clearly understand our lives and experiences in the Unification Church, we need to be able to clearly understand the church's role as a tool of imperialist and fascist violence. Vital to genuinely recognizing and working through the ways the UC's abuse and ideology stick with us is understanding the root of oppression in society: capitalist imperialism. An anti-imperialist analysis is vital to understanding the conditions that birthed and sustain the Unification Church, and to understand why the majority of the world is forced to endure "half-lives".
There is a way forward, to not just heal from trauma as individuals, but through collective struggle for a new world, we may gain our deepest sense of humanity by playing a role in the defeat of imperialism. This is not an attempt at "heavenly deception," or an impossible dream. This assessment comes from the analysis and experiences of hundreds of millions who have engaged in the past century of anti-imperialist struggle.
A quote we often repeat in our reading group comes from George Jackson, an Black revolutiionary who was murdered in prison in 1971: "Settle your quarrels, come together, understand the reality of our situation, understand that fascism is already here, that people are already dying who could be saved, that generations more will live poor butchered half-lives if you fail to act. Do what must be done, discover your humanity and your love in revolution."
We cannot emphasize that last part enough: "Do what must be done, discover your humanity and your love in revolution."
Understanding the crisis before us is not enough. Collectively, we must face it head-on, in solidarity with all those struggling against imperialism and for a new world where there are no longer half-lives. In this struggle for a world without imperialist exploitation, we collectively reclaim our humanity from this oppressive system.
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Warning For Second Generation: Potential Incoming Outreach to “Inactive” “Blessed Children”
via WIOTM
Did you know that UC has a new president? Demian Dunkley was appointed the end of May when church held an inauguration in the New Yorker the end of May. Dunkley was president of UC about three years ago then Mrs Moon sent him to what the church refers to as Asia 1 (India, Thailand…). He was also pastor of Las Vegas church during In Jin’s Lovin’ Life time.
You can’t deny Demian has a charismatic guy. He has this blind faith and unbiased devotion to Mrs Moon. He also has relationship and respect of many second generation and members. He has the expectations of not only Mrs Moon but membership that his leadership will bring a new wave to the dying church. In his speech he referred many times that the UC will now be referenced as -The Witnessing Church.
Dunkley was leader of Vegas church under Lovin’ Life under In jin during which LL was able to organize the second generation and unite them under ball room dancing, sports festivals, mega church, rock bands, etc. She created a vibe for the church with hopes to witness to younger people. I get the feeling that Dunkley will use some of these tactics for the new witnessing push.
During the inauguration speech he introduced 6 of twelve “sisters” that will be witnessing leaders. To seal the deal each woman received a special sweater from Mrs. Moon’s own wardrobe. These “sisters” were all second gen.
It seems like every three years the church dusts off its witnessing campaign and part of their plan of action is to target inactive and ex members to bring them back. So-second gen. be warned— if a church friend calls you to invite you to picnic, dinner, sports festival or whatever. It’s not because they want to talk, spend time with you but more like they have a quota to reach.
Related
Demian Dunkley Admits Fraud - from the twitter of ex-Moonie podcast Falling Out
Demian Dunkley on Steve Hassan
Falling Out with Elgen Strait: S4 E9- The Empress' Old Clothes on Apple Podcasts - dissecting a recent fundraising video by Dunkley
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Months ago I officially divorced from the evangelical lutheran church and after like a month of waiting got my letter from the state confirming my divorce.
I was honestly surprised how free I felt. Maybe it had something to with the fact that I made a small ritual around it, so it wasn't exactly mundane thing to do. It was something I had talked of doing for a long time.
It feels like I've shaken off the last tiny bit of christianity still holding me from the ankle.
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Stray Kids × Chase Atlantic [ OT8 ]
🎸 SYNOPSIS : A series of eight unrelated one shots revolving around each member of Stray Kids, in the famous club 5-STAR.
GENRE : smut (with slight plot)
PAIRING : stray kids ot8 × f!reader
CONTENT WARNING : honestly pure filth, swearing, alcohol, getting high, smoking, weed, smut (warnings in each one-shot!)
WORD COUNT : 2K (ongoing)
AUTHOR'S NOTE : Happy Stray Kids day!! It's my first anniversary with them so I made these, hope you guys enjoy <3
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01. bang chan × slow down (2K words)
↳ There was something about the way he looked at you that made you squeeze your thighs together, your focus faltering as you did his eye makeup. However, your predicament might get a solution when you overhear a conversation you weren't supposed to.
02. lee know × swim (1.7K words)
↳ After a nasty break-up with your loser ex, you head to your favorite club to let loose, when the bartender catches your eye. He's managed to make you laugh more than you had all week and slowly you find yourself losing focus on his words and more on his veiny hands.
03. seo changbin × okay
↳ You honestly wanted to leave the club as soon as you saw Changbin's face, but something made you stay. You regretted your decision when he approached you, but no one could deny the tension floating between you both that he was eager to get rid of.
04. hwang hyunjin × heaven and back
↳ You weren't a club girl. Anyone who knew you knew that. That was exactly why you found yourself in the club, talking up with the most handsome man you've ever met in your entire life, someone who didn't know your past and was only focused on giving you a good time.
05. han jisung × meddle about
↳ He was stunning. Absolutely alluring the moment you saw him step onto the stage. And it was like he was looking right at you with a smirk, strumming his electric guitar to the music. Who were you to deny when he asked to take you somewhere private?
06. lee felix × tidal wave
↳ You hadn't expected to run into Felix at someplace like a club but you were glad you did. The alcohol coursing through your body finally gave you the courage to do something you've been wanting to do for the past few months — talk with your crush. But he had a lot more planned than just talking.
07. kim seungmin × moonlight
↳ Was it cliché you were in love with your best friend? Maybe it was, but it was the truth. After not seeing him for months, you meet in the oddest of places — a club. Something about him was different, but that made you want him that much more.
08. yang jeongin × church
↳ More than the band playing on stage, you were interested by the security guard standing near the stage. He looked exactly like your type and you weren't going to leave until you at least got his phone number. But sometimes, you got more than what you bargained for.
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