#extraordinary education

[lotsofsq]

i reread the beginning of extraordinary edition and i love their friendship so much. john you will always be my special guy

[IDs copied in alt text: two images are both drawings of kid nicholas and john cole.

a drawing with two panels, the first is nick looking up with an amicable expression, he is amused and is saying “you’re probably the nicest person i’ve met before” with a shrug. the second is john who is looking down and he looks horrified. he is captioned “considers himself just a normal decent person and is horrified”.

a drawing of john holding a crying nick to his chest. nick has his legs wrapped around john and his arms around his neck. john has a sympathetic expression and is holding him around his back and is saying “aw, Nick it’s ok.”]

[lyssified]

........guys is there a fandom for extraordinary education of nicholas benedict

[perhaps-in-anotherdream]

[CN] Victor’s Carbon Pen and Glass Bead Event (Day 1)

⌚ This post contains detailed spoilers for content yet to be released on the global server! ⌚

✦ thursday || friday || saturday || sunday || monday || tuesday || wednesday

【High School Affiliated to Loveland University Second Year (Section 1) Semester Schedule - Thursday】

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[Tidbits]: To not break the flow, gonna put the note first– in the first dialogue, Victor’s classmates address him as “老李” (Lao Li)~ the way I hate English vocabulary at times like this LMAO the term “老” here is used as a teasing remark by his classmates to express their respect/ honor for him sarcastically given that not only he’s ahead of the crowd but he acts far too mature beyond his years as well~😂

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[MATH]:

“Sir Vic, what answer did you get for the second-to-last question?”

“Square root of 2.”

“OK! Now, what option did you choose for the tenth question?”

“I chose option C, but I’m not sure.”

“It should be option A… P is the symmetric point with respect to the straight line x-y=0…”

For the math teacher who loves giving impromptu quizzes, getting the students to engage in discussions during the ten-minute break is also one of their “conspiracies.”

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[BIOLOGY]:

Looking at the textbook he’s already highlighted with the key points long ago, Victor takes out a collection of competition-grade questions that are carefully sorted to align with the relevant exam topics. As he listens, he begins contemplating the problems.

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[CHINESE]:

Everyone is on their “best behavior” during the homeroom teacher’s class. The beaming woman is speaking eloquently on the stage, while Victor looks down at a reading comprehension analysis. He finds that he understands it even better than the original writer.

There are so many incomprehensible things in this world.

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[CHEMISTRY]:

There are less than ten minutes to go until the end of the class. Glancing from afar, Victor notices that Zheng Xi, who is seated near the front door, already seems to be in a stance ready to bolt at any moment. Victor can’t help but feel hungry as he feels himself being infected by the sight.

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[PHYSICS]:

Is it really possible for anyone to stay alert and not feel sleepy in the first class of the afternoon?

Yes, Victor doesn’t feel sleepy in the slightest.

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[MUSIC]:

“Aside from focusing on studies, I hope that everyone can enhance their perception of various forms of “aesthetics.” This semester in music class, the teacher aims to create a platform for self-expression, where each student can showcase their talents through musical instrument performances, singing, or dancing. Last week, several students performed exceptionally well. Now, we’ll continue with the presentations in order of student numbers. Up next is student number 23.”

“Does the vice class monitor know how to play the piano?”

“I’m not sure, I’ve never seen him playing it.”

“...”

“...”

“...”

“...Thank you, Victor, for your performance. Music is a form of self-expression. But, next time, perhaps you can also consider singing a song?”

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[ENGLISH]:

Led by the arrangement of the passionate young teacher, the class is divided into multiple small groups, each assigned to perform different roles based on the textbook content. However––

With a sense of resignation, Victor touches the curly wig on his head and remains silent for a moment. Despite so, he still earnestly delivers the lines of the judge.

“I’m already a mature high school student,” he thinks to himself, feeling at a loss for words.

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[ENGLISH]:

One of the biggest benefits of the campus activities on Thursday is that Victor can seamlessly participate in the Model United Nations (MUN) right after his English class.

Even if one practices their lines in advance, no one will raise an eyebrow. The school administration teacher is really nice.

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✧ next stop: Friday

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[mafaldaknows]

Just FYI:

Parents need to be aware that no matter how safe you think your children’s environment might be, it’s better to be safe than sorry. They don’t need their names emblazoned on everything, especially when they’re already from a high-profile family, and their mother plasters their images on Instagram as often as possible despite their father choosing not to, in order to keep them safe.

I won’t post the photo in Liz’s Instagram story in order to mitigate the potential for harm that she’s already done to them, but this isn’t the first time she’s willingly jeopardized their safety for likes on social media, so I suppose it’s a moot point.

She told us herself:

“I am an eXtrAoRdiNAry mOthEr!”

[nobodysdaydreams]

Hello TMBS fandom. This is a request for a little help with some of my fic writing from any extraordinary education fans.

So I write mostly for the show, but am at the point where I want to start writing and referencing “show versions” for some of the book characters, and the one I’m working on right now is Violet Hopefield. Sadly, I have not read extraordinary education, and was hoping to get some character details.

I do want to preface this by saying that my intention is to write the character in a way that follows the plot lines I’ve set up, so while I won’t be writing an exact copy of the character, I do want an idea of what she’s like. Think the differences between book and show Noland and Canonball or even book Curtain and show Curtain. Are they the same? No. But you see the book character they are based on in them, while acknowledging that this is a slightly different story and a different version of them, while still enjoying both the show and book versions of the characters.

Head canons or popular head canons are appreciated, but I'm mainly looking for what's canon so if something is "canon to you" based on how the character acts, I'll consider it, but please specify what's canon and what's not.

With that in mind, here's a rundown of what I know and what I'd like to know. I'll start with Violet, but I might include a few things for John too (and I'll have some questions about a few other book characters eventually, but I'll stick with them for now).

Violet Hopefield:

The biggest gripe I think people might have with the way I'd write her is her age. Apparently in the books, the ages are Nicholas (9), John (12), Violet (14). The fandom wikipedia stuff I found only said that Violet had an 8th grade education and didn't list her age, so in a book series about genius kids, I just imagined her being younger than John, around Nicholas' age. Obviously this was a mistake, and given that show Nicholas is 12, that bumps the ages at which he meets them to Nicholas (12), John (15), Violet (17). My question is, if I made her character younger, like...around Nicholas' age, would that completely destroy the character? I know this is a big ask, but please, it's for plot purposes, and you'll be grateful later. I just want to know if it's a situation where "yes the characters are technically different ages, but at the end of the day, they're all just friends hanging out and who the oldest is doesn't really matter" vs. "Violet is the older mature one of the group. This is one of, if not her main defining character trait and changing it completely changes the character." If it's option two, I might still make Violet younger, while being very careful to make her a younger but mature child, like what they did with show Constance where she's not a toddler anymore, but she makes up for it by being extremely violent and fighting falcons (or what they did with the twin's ages, and Number Two and Rhonda's ages, etc.)

I know Violet is deaf, and Nicholas learns sign language to talk to her, but she's extremely good at reading lips. Her disability would for sure be part of the fic, and I've already read tips on and thought about ways I can incorporate this (at the risk of finding false info on ASL signs, I plan on writing when signing occurs, but won't make an attempt to write out the exact hand motions unless I can verify that what I'm describing is factually correct). Her ability to read lips is interesting, and I'm not sure how it's done in the books or whether it's done accurately (It is estimated that only 30% to 40% of speech sounds can be lip-read even under the best conditions and extra information is usually required to understand what is being said. That's from google, but I've heard that stat a lot). I plan to stay true to the books in this regard, but will be highlighting the fact that this is unusual and extremely impressive on Violet's part. How will I be doing that? That's a spoiler so unfortunately, I can't share, but I do have that covered. If there are any descriptions of sign language or aspects of deaf culture included in the books that are also important to include in fic, please let me know (I am also aware that her mother is also deaf, more on her later).

I know she's an artist. Not sure what she likes to draw (people? nature?) or what style she uses (painting? sculpting? sketches?), but if there's info on that, I'll take it. I also know she had an interest in going to art school (the whole Nicholas thing isn't an issues anymore since he's adopted by the Glenn's), so I will have her doing art competitions and stuff like that.

And that's a summation of everything I know about her. Other details that are appreciated are physical appearance (though that's subject to change, the show certainly changed that a lot for some characters, but I'd like to know what I can use), any defining beliefs or principles she lives by or revolves her life around, the top adjectives you think describe her, character quirks (e.g., Kate's bucket), and if possible, some snippets of dialogue from the books that give a good impression of her character.

I'd also like to know if there is anything that falls under the "she would NOT say/do that OR she would not say/do that without very special circumstances. For example, book Curtain would never adopt a child. In the show, he does, and most of us are fine with that, because they explain and clearly show the differences between the show and book characters. In another example, they made show Benedict a more flawed or maybe a better word is relatable mentor. And most of us were fine with that too, again, because they showed us how he arrived at that point. However, if they made Mr. Benedict a mean or unpleasant person, that would totally rip apart his character, regardless of the justification you gave for it. Obviously, what falls into the "would never" and "under the right conditions" categories is subject to debate, so I'll use my best judgment, but would still appreciate a starter list to go off.

Finally, anything else you think is relevant about Violet or her relationships with other characters is appreciated.

John Cole:

I know John Cole is Violet's brother, and he is adopted. I understand this happens in the books and that Nicholas and John are in an orphanage together, but since this is a show version of the character, this will actually happen before Nicholas meets them, but John Cole is still adopted. What I don't know are the circumstances of his adoption. Did the Hopefield's adopt him because he was friends with Violet? Is that why they wanted to adopt Nicholas too? How did the Hopefield's meet him? Do we know anything about John's bio family and culture that differs from the Hopefield's?

I've seen a lot about John Cole and farms. And a post about he and his wife having a farm. Does he actually have a wife in canon? Do the Hopefield's have a farm? Or does John just have "farmer vibes"? Is getting a city job something John would do or did he declare himself to have a deep seated hatred of the big city?

I know John calls Nicholas "Nick" on at least one occasion. Is this what John normally calls him? Do the Hopefield's and Violet call Nicholas "Nick" too, or is this just a "John thing"?

Other details that are appreciated are physical appearance, any defining beliefs or principles John lives by or revolves his life around, the top adjectives you think describe him, character quirks, and if possible, some snippets of dialogue from the books that give a good impression of John's character.

I'd also like to know if there is anything that falls under the "he would NOT say/do that OR he would not say/do that without very special circumstances as discussed above.

Any of course, anything else you think is relevant about John Cole or his relationships with other characters is appreciated.

The Hopefields:

I know Mrs. Hopefield is also deaf. Can she read lips too? Is Mr. Hopefield also deaf?

What are the Hopefield's occupations? I read something about them being miners and poor, not sure if that's accurate.

Why are they interested in adopting? Have they always been interested in adopting? Why did they want to adopt John?

Are there any important aspects to the Hopefield's culture or family philosophy? For example, if the Hopefield's are, say, Jewish or immigrants, or some sort of culture is mentioned, I would like to know so I can represent that properly and not accidently write it out of the story.

Are there any other members of the Hopefield family besides the parents, Violet, and John? Any beloved pets?

Other details that are appreciated are physical appearance, any defining beliefs or principles they live by or revolve their lives around, the top adjectives you think describe them, character quirks, and if possible, some snippets of dialogue from the books that give a good impression of their characters.

I'd also like to know if there is anything that falls under the "they would NOT say/do that OR they would not say/do that without very special circumstances as discussed above.

Any of course, anything else you think is relevant about the Hopefields or their relationships with other characters is appreciated.

Thanks guys! Feel free to add to the post, DM, or drop by my ask box.

And yes, eventually with enough time, I might like to read extraordinary education someday, but I'd likely write this fic first, so I want to get some accurate info. Plot spoilers are fine, that won't deter me from reading it.

[the-algebra-thing]

just finished the mysterious benedict society and just as expected it was everything I remembered and more. probably in my core favs at this point the themes were so well executed and so important to me

[theworldiswhispering]

I should be sleepin but I took a nap earlier so now I'm just thinking about how John Cole being a nice kid and befriending Nicholas Benedict saved the whole world

[oflightningandstars]

My thoughts so far on The Extraordinary Education of Nicholas Benedict (I'm about 80 pages in):

I love this kid

I already like John, he seems to be a decent fellow

I LOVE the descriptions of Nicholas' thought patterns:

"Nicholas stared at Mr. Collum, not out of anger or bitterness but because he was concentrating. Now that he was alone, he could turn his full attention to his problem. His mind began reeling in its many strands of thought like so many fishing lines, checking each hook for solutions" (47)

"his mind was always looking for puns and rhymes, whether he wanted it to or not, just as it always looked for patterns" (83)

I love his plan to make his own key

His reaction to the library - I love him - "The innumerable books were all bound in leather, with their titles and author names on the spines in gold lettering, and already he had determined that they were divided into categories -- history, botany, chemistry, astronomy, mathematics, physics, economics, fiction, poetry, and more -- and organized by systems particular to each category. They varied widely in size, from volumes as slim as slate boards to enormous tomes the size of cinder blocks. And to Nicholas they were all beautiful, every one of them" (63)

[asadfangirlbitxh]

Blogmas #9

Fictional Couples that I learned to love in 2022

Ruby and Otis, Sex Education

I personally think we have moved on from the need for Otis and Maeve. This comes from a former Otis and Maeve shipper

2. Anthony Bridgerton and Kate Sharma, Bridgerton

If anyone is familiar with my blog you know how much of a Bridgerton book fan I am. The show disappointed me a bit but we stan a poc character

3. Sophie and Jesse, How I met your father

I have a special place in my heart for them. I prefer HIMYF to HIMYM tbh

4. Janine and Gregory, Abbott Elementary

I know I said the slow-burn troupe pisses me off but I love them. Fuck off.

5. Woo Youngwoo and Lee Jonho, Extraordinary Attorney Woo

Healthy Communication? YES

NON TOXIC MALE? YES

I just love them so much

6. Charlie and Nick, Heartstopper

Cute bois in my love. MY ABSOLUTE HEART

7. Darcy and Tara, Heartstopper

They have my entire heart <3

We stan cute happy queer relationships.

8. Lucas and Max, Stranger Things

The only couple other than Dustin and Suzie that didn't make me want to yell on Stranger Things. They broke my heart so much but it made me love them even more.

9. Yeon-soo and Ung, Our Beloved Summer.

This couple has every troupe in the book. Enemies to lovers? Childhood sweethearts? Exes to Lovers? Slowburn? YES

10. Gomez Addams and Morticia Addams, Addams Family

A man devoted to his wife and makes it his whole personality. WE ABSOLUTELY STAN

[sophieswundergarten]

I forgot John had a crew cut in EE, why is this so upsetting to me?

[lotsofsq]

violet my beautiful princess and the imp boy

[IDs copied on alt text: two drawings.

a drawing of violet hopefield. she is in a dress with an apron and has two thick black braids on either side of her head she is smiling and has hearts around her.

a drawing of nicholas looking up at someone, eyes sparkling and clasping his hands together innocently. he is saying “who me?” ]

[gleesongtournament]

Glee Song Tournament Round 2

[resplendentmackerelsky]

How would the bbc ghosts excluding robin received their education? eg going to school

So the history of education isn't really something I know a whole lot about and there were many different ways to be educated in every period of history. However I will do my best to take a guess at how each ghost would have been educated. And of course anyone who has more knowledge on the topic is welcome to add or clarify.

Humphrey

Humphrey was likely educated by a private tutor. Schools for boys did exist during the 16th century (Shakespeare attended one) but for people of wealth or high class, such as Humphrey, private tutelage was the standard.

Mary

Mary was likely educated by her mother (and possibly father) on all the things she needed to know to run a household. Education for girls and the rural poor was not readily available during the late 16th century, and it was generally believed that it was improper for lower class women to be formally educated. During the mediaeval and early-modern periods it was also considered the duty of the church to educate adults and children on issues of morality and alike, but this would have been through regular church services rather than any formal classroom setting.

Kitty

As we know, Kitty and her sister had a governess who would have been responsible, not only for their upbringing, but also for the education of both girls. This would have chiefly included reading, writing, and arithmetic, but also things like foreign languages, musical instruments, painting, and possibly even philosophy and science.

Thomas

I think it's most likely that Thomas was one of the first ghosts to attend a school like the ones we have today. Education during this time was still more angled towards middle and upper classes but childhood schooling as a whole was becoming more prevalent following the enlightenment. He probably had a primary education at a boarding school or by possibly by private tutor as a child and went to either a grammar school or university in his later teen years for secondary education.

Fanny

Private education was still very popular amongst the upper classes into the 19th century. Like Kitty, Fanny probably had a governess during her childhood. It's quite possible that she also attended a formal school as she got a bit older, probably an all girls school for the wealthy. By the time she would have been in her late teens and 20s, laws had changed to allow women to attend university and given her interest and ability in mathematics, it's very likely that she did, or at least wanted to, attend university.

Captian

By Captain's time, primary education was compulsory for all children. It's probable, given that he was basically in R&D for the military, that he also had a secondary education, somewhat like the equivalent to a modern high school, but this would not have been compulsory at the time. He may have also attended university, but the outbreak of WWI lines up with the time he was likely studying and may have been enlisted before he could complete his university education.

Julian

Julian would have had an education relatively similar to present schooling. He would probably have had primary and secondary schooling at private (UK: public, ie. Fee-paying) schools. And as we know, he attended Cambridge for university.

Pat

Similarly to Julian, Pat would have had a compulsory primary education, and would have also attended high school. Whilst it's most likely Pat finished his secondary schooling, many teens dropped out or finished early to begin apprenticeships or enter the workforce, especially as university education was not as necessary as it is today for high paying jobs. I think at some point it's mentioned that Pat worked in a bank, which probably required some form of tertiary education, such as university or TAFE (I'm not sure what they call it in the UK).

Bonus: Robin (but not really)

Surprisingly, we know a small amount about how pre-historic peoples were educated based on the debris found at tool knapping sites. One site, (I think was in coastal western Victoria, but I don't remember the name), had a stone tool knapping 'workshop' where there was a mix of high-skill and low-skill debris from the same depositional layer. This may indicate that there was more experienced stone tool knapper(s) working with other less experienced knapper(s) in the same workshop. This may demonstrate how pre-historic people passed on their practical knowledge in a teacher-student sort of way. But this is just one theory for explaining the debris pattern at this particular site, and also is in a context completely removed from Robin's time and place.

[books-to-add-to-your-tbr]

Title: The Mysterious Benedict Society

Author: Trenton Lee Stewart

Series or standalone: series

Publication year: 2007

Genres: fiction, mystery, fantasy, adventure, science fiction

Blurb: When a peculiar ad appears in the newspaper, dozens of children enrol to take a series of mysterious, mind-bending tests...but in the end, just four very special children will succeed. Their challenge: to go on a secret mission that only the most intelligent and resourceful children could complete. To accomplish it, they will have to go undercover at the Learning Institute for the Very Enlightened, where the only rule is that there are no rules. As our heroes face physical and mental trials beyond their wildest imaginations, they have no choice but to turn to each other for support...but with their newfound friendship at stake, will they be able to pass the most important test of all?