#fuck rob thomas

[raisedbythetv89]

I feel like Logan’s death really commandeers the conversation about how terrible season 4 of Veronica Mars is (understandably so it is horrific) but there’s literally SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT 😭

Veronica isn’t Veronica and Logan isn’t Logan (really NO ONE is truly in character anymore). Rob Thomas clearly has NO IDEA what healing actually looks like so Logan becomes this pop psychology stereotype with no depth or emotion and like Veronica literally says A POD PERSON. And he describes his therapy as controlling his anger so it doesn’t consume him. That might have been the move as a temporary band-aide immediately to stabilize his life after season 3 but what like 12 years later???? When season 4 starts? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Fire that therapist immediately 😭 He should be WELL into the source of his anger. Healing isn’t about control it’s about surrender and acceptance of your feelings and developing healthy coping strategies to process your newly uncovered feelings so you can live WITH them not in spite of them. There’s a reason so many “good guy” characters are so one dimensional and boring it’s because the male writers writing them literally have NO CLUE what a healthy well adjusted men act like 😭 - (Ted Lasso was so rare because we had good men writing good men)

And yes we know Logan punching people does it for Veronica but that’s because it is ALWAYS in defense of her but his safety and well being is always her number 1 priority (he pulls a gun to save her in the Fitzpatricks bar and she screams at him because she doesn’t want him to get hurt or killed in his attempt to defend her and she’s terrified). Him just punching a kitchen cabinet in rage and frustration is NOT the same thing at all and she would show concern in that situation not immediately instigate sex ROBERT.

The idea that Veronica did ZERO growing/healing/processing in those 12 years is so insulting and just not realistic - once she got space and distance she would have come out of fight or flight and been assaulted with all the repressed emotions from seasons 1-3 before law school yet somehow she’s WORSE than she was when she was younger with less stability and support and capacity to handle everything she was dealing with.

Especially after everything established in the movie!

“Are you gonna ask me if I did it?”

“I wouldn’t be here if I thought you did”

THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT SHOWS IN VERONICA IS ACTUALLY INSANE. Miss never trusts anybody, suspect EVERYONE until your can verify the truth - believes Logan and Weevil AT THEIR WORD. Trusts THEIR CHANGE implicitly and picks helping Logan and Weevil BECAUSE SHE CARES not because it’s a fucking addiction as Rob tried to frame it in the movie 💀💀💀 Veronica always helped because she’s SOFT because she has a good heart and can’t help but help when she knows she can which is classic of parentified children - you believe everything is your responsibility to fix if it’s in your capability to fix. Does she get neurotic trying to solve cases? Absolutely! But that is trying to control and fix external problems as a distraction from her own. It was a coping mechanism and taking that coping mechanism away in the 9 years between season 3 and the movie would have caused serious problems for her that would have forced her to confront her issues.

Season 4 could have been Veronica having a complete break down from her always too full plate coming crumbling down trying to help and fix too much combined with logan being gone and always at risk when he is gone, Wallace bringing new life into an increasingly corrupt neptune she can’t seem to save, Mac working for Jake Kane?!!?! I would have loved If instead she was helping Mac deal with the swapped at birth thing they NEVER touched again. Combined with her dad’s health problems and Weevil falling back into his old habits. She is someone who feels responsible for everything and everyone around her because everyone blamed her for EVERYTHING when she was younger and eventually that catches up with you and THAT is what I wanted to see her strength crumble forcing her to be truly vulnerable and instead of asking for favors asking for HELP allowing her to stop acting like a woman written by a man and act like an actual adult woman BY women who actually understand that experience. Rob was SO out of his depth - his portrayal of Leanne in earlier seasons already proved that.

But that’s just one of literally 1 million possibilities that would have been better than the direction Rob chose. He managed to strip away everything we loved about ALL of his characters until they were ghosts of themselves and it makes me SO UPSET 😭 because he literally revived a show just to finish the destruction path he started in season 3, that had started to be corrected in the movie because it was so controlled by the fans.

Rob and Joss - two men who’s success was built upon a largely female audience and then their misogyny caused them to try and destroy everything their audiences loved 🙃🙃🙃🙃

[polovision]

this is the funniest thing i've ever fucking seen. rob babygirl this is too silly

[gre4zerz]

Darry and Ponyboy making Soda's favorite dish and making everything nice for him...

Just to find out he died in Vietnam the month before.

(⁠ㆁ⁠ω⁠ㆁ⁠)

[elliebear75]

So, like, did I miss something? Why is there suddenly so much iZombie content in this infernal hellscape? I walk away from fandom for a nanosecond and the weird niche show gets its moment?

[asexual-juliet]

rob thomas will write a boy whose childhood sexual trauma canonically manifests itself as sex-repulsion and say ah yes. it makes enough sense for him to be last season’s rapist that we will retcon the entire plotline we wrapped up 23 episodes ago just for the sake of drama. jail for 1000 years mr thomas im not kidding this time

[pancakehouse]

specific themes and thesis of your veronica mars ppt GO

gahhhh molly .. good golly miss molly .. easier to describe what veronica mars ISN’T rather than try to encompass all that it (she) is !!!!!

gawd ok well. we’re obv exploring class divides and social warfare and the haves versus have nots. grief is touching foreheads w revenge and they’re holding hands, spinning in circles, melding into eo until one cannot be separated from the other. it’s witty and smart and CAMPY AS HELL (these aren’t real themes but if the met gala can do it so can i!!). and we’ve got so. so much tragedy -- this takes up like 20+ cumulative slides. and also loss and corruption .. justice and morality (@veronica “someone always has to pay” mars) and then i think i'd finish us off w my top fifteen depictions of LoVe (@logan “lives ruined, bloodshed, EPIC” echolls) LOVE !! which is ofc melded right in w that grief & revenge as the catalyst for literally every single thing that happens from minute one of the pilot on to 10 mins before the end of s4 credits roll.

tldr; my lazy girl thesis statement - in the wise words of sheriff don lamb :: veronica mars is…smarter than me. and so is the show for which she’s named <3 

[stglennfucker]

Gonna compile a list of every male character in sunny that could conceivably pound Dennis just for @nailgunstigmata

[raisedbythetv89]

Rob Dumbass Thomas:

“Veronica Mars is NOIR”

All of us:

Pookie you are 3 degrees south of scooby-doo be so fucking for real

[veronicamarsconfessions]

10 Crime Shows With Terrible Endings

From great short-lived shows like Veronica Mars to long-running hits like Criminal Minds, some crime shows failed to impress in their final season.

The more successful a series is the harder it is for the show to conclude in a way that satisfies the dedicated fans and watchful critics. While many crime shows start on a high note that draws the viewers in, the finale of the overarching plot has to end with enough thrills and satisfactory justice to convince the audience.

After the highly controversial conclusion of the revival, it's safe to say this crime series is unredeemable.

[bittwitchy]

[tanjir0se]

It’s insane how we’re all just tiny animals trying our best to figure out how everything works. We don’t know what’s in the ocean or out in space, but we just keep looking and keep trying and yelling “hey we’re here!” …we taught ourselves everything we know about ourselves and our bodies, which is very little, so we just kinda try stuff and hope it works and cry when it doesn’t and cry when it does … idk man maybe this life and this world really is full of beauty and wonder and pain and joy

[snakes-on-skates]

BATDR Thoughts: (not in any particular order)

SPOILERS!!!!

you can pet Tom!!! you can hold his little face!!!

sammy :(

cant tell if i like the Ink Demon's voice or not. The sound gets kinda weird at certain lines. also he snarls/growls too much

we barely got to travel with Toon Bendy!!! i feel like the big reveal of him transforming from the Ink Demon wouldve been more effective if he had been with us longer. We met him, he ran off a bunch, we befriended him, traveled together for like ten minutes, abd then he was gone again. kind of disappointing. which seems to be a trend.

Bendy <3

ending felt empty. which seems to be a trend.

very much liked the cutscene after the boss battle with the rainbow guy, though i was scared someone would intercept and idk stab Bendy or something

I despise the keepers more than i despised Joey back in the day, and thats saying something.

I dont hate Joey AS MUCH as before, but i still dont like him. you screwed so many people over.

kinda miss the BATIM Ink Demon design and the overall vibe he had, and that he could just show up and you had to hide. Now i feel like its mostly scripted, and he usually isnt physically there. it just doesn't feel the same.

Several saws are not enough, Wilson should've had worse.

Wilson really had a whole dimension after us just to show us his OC and try to kill us

No Norman?? :(

BENDY 🖤

SAMMY :((((

the Wandering Sin easter egg is awesome and i love it

Porter is insane and i love him a lot

Heidis alright. i like her but i dont think about her much

excited to watch Pastra's playthrough, wish i was there for the stream though.

he.... he has HOOVES.

BENDY HAS HOOVES

thats so cool....

[godblooded]

so what i’m getting as a consensus here is ‘kat write gloria’ but god knows i won’t be able to resist ken either so…

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[judesstfrancis]

also I literally saw them live and I still don't know what rob thomas looks like. I was staring at him all night I SAW him. committed him to memory. if u put him in a line up of other dudes and asked me which one was him I would not know. I have face blindness but only for this specific man

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